DC's God Team runs the Marvel Gauntlet...

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Galan007
The DC roster will consist of...

-The New-New Gods-
http://i.imgur.com/5EAcJuI.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/lfskZNr.jpg

+

-DCnU Darkseid-
http://i.imgur.com/JFSld7bm.jpg

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-DCnU Anti-Monitor-
http://i.imgur.com/Q5qGTX1m.jpg

+

-Mazahs Jr.-
http://i.imgur.com/V1thRG5m.jpg


VS.


**The Marvel Gauntlet**

Round 0 (warm-up): Odin
Round 1: Galactus after feeding on 4 worlds
Round 2: 4 Mad Celestials
Round 3: Merged/Voltron Celestial
Round 4: Galactus Engine
Round 5: Black Panther /w/ IG
Round 6: God Emperor Doom
Round 7: Current Owen Reece


*Fights take place on Apokolips.
*Assume the DC Team works together harmoniously, and have their powers fully restored after every Round.
*This is a standard gauntlet, NOT a stacking/growing gauntlet.


How far do they get?

ghostman
i think this team stops at 5. i just cant see them beating god doom considering he has the powers of the beyonders who are > tribunal > ig

but on the other hand....... he cant even fix his face lmao. and bp with gauntlet, who is universal gave him a hell of a fight.....

yeah i think the team stops at owen, ****er put an omniverse in a box

Philosophía
It's tricky to judge this due to anti-life equation.

I'd say 6, if we assume Molecule Man allowed Doom access to the full power.

carver9
Can't see them beating the Galactus engine.

Cogito
If the team gets past 5, they should stop at 6.

The ALE, Death, and Hal make it a breeze to get to 5 though. Flash alone should shitstomp the GE despite Carter's opinion otherwise.

carver9
Originally posted by ghostman
i think this team stops at 5. i just cant see them beating god doom considering he has the powers of the beyonders who are > tribunal > ig

but on the other hand....... he cant even fix his face lmao. and bp with gauntlet, who is universal gave him a hell of a fight.....

yeah i think the team stops at owen, ****er put an omniverse in a box

Doom stomped Black Panther with the IG.

ghostman
Originally posted by carver9
Doom stomped Black Panther with the IG.


nope.

carver9
Originally posted by ghostman
nope.

This is a stomp. If you consider this a fight, I don't know what to tell you.

https://comicnewbies.files.wordpress.com/2016/01/black-panther-and-namor-vs-doctor-doom-secret-wars-1.jpg

https://comicnewbies.files.wordpress.com/2016/01/black-panther-and-namor-vs-doctor-doom-secret-wars-2.jpg

https://comicnewbies.files.wordpress.com/2016/01/black-panther-and-namor-vs-doctor-doom-secret-wars-3.jpg

https://comicnewbies.files.wordpress.com/2016/01/black-panther-and-namor-vs-doctor-doom-secret-wars-4.jpg

https://comicnewbies.files.wordpress.com/2016/01/black-panther-and-namor-vs-doctor-doom-secret-wars-5.jpg

https://comicnewbies.files.wordpress.com/2016/01/black-panther-and-namor-vs-doctor-doom-secret-wars-6.jpg

The Phoenix force did better.

Zack M
They stop at 6.

Galan007
Originally posted by carver9
The Phoenix force did better. Lol. You must not have read the entire battle between Panther and Doom(you didn't post the whole fight, btw), if you think Phoenix did better.

Here is the full battle between God Emperor Doom and T'Challa /w/ IG:
http://i.imgur.com/5dMvDlP.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/R7XX6mg.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/yCcfBC7.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/wvR2bOV.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/mndeb2N.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/N5wiDWf.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/AzCFYBG.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/qkV3YOI.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/PaMfkDJ.jpg


And here is God Emperor Doom vs. Phoenix:
http://i.imgur.com/plvrPfGm.jpg http://i.imgur.com/BLlt5Owm.jpg http://i.imgur.com/6N6CIBym.jpg http://i.imgur.com/hryikuEm.jpg

TethAdamTheRock
4 or 5

psycho gundam
Originally posted by Galan007
Lol. You must not have read the entire battle between Panther and Doom(you didn't post the whole fight, btw), if you think Phoenix did better.

Here is the full battle between God Emperor Doom and T'Challa /w/ IG:
http://i.imgur.com/5dMvDlP.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/R7XX6mg.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/yCcfBC7.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/wvR2bOV.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/mndeb2N.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/N5wiDWf.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/AzCFYBG.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/qkV3YOI.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/PaMfkDJ.jpg


And here is God Emperor Doom vs. Phoenix:
http://i.imgur.com/plvrPfGm.jpg http://i.imgur.com/BLlt5Owm.jpg http://i.imgur.com/6N6CIBym.jpg http://i.imgur.com/hryikuEm.jpg You posted the entirety of the fight he did and another one as well all in one condenced post. Carver fuct that simple concept up as well

operator616
Originally posted by ghostman
i think this team stops at 5. i just cant see them beating god doom considering he has the powers of the beyonders who are > tribunal > ig

but on the other hand....... he cant even fix his face lmao. and bp with gauntlet, who is universal gave him a hell of a fight.....

yeah i think the team stops at owen, ****er put an omniverse in a box

It's a completely ridiculous feat to be sure, but ive been meaning to know the exact intention behind owen's omniversal feat. As in, what is Ewing's definition of the omniverse?

On panel he seems to be using the terms multiverse and omniverse interchangeably, but i came across an interview where he specifically differentiated between the two and stated that the omniverse is the collection of all the multiverses, superflow, and everything else marvel has shown. So im not really sure what to make of this.

Galan007
Originally posted by operator616
It's a completely ridiculous feat to be sure, but ive been meaning to know the exact intention behind owen's omniversal feat. As in, what is Ewing's definition of the omniverse?

On panel he seems to be using the terms multiverse and omniverse interchangeably, but i came across an interview where he specifically differentiated between the two and stated that the omniverse is the collection of all the multiverses, superflow, and everything else marvel has shown. So im not really sure what to make of this. Ewing definitely uses the terms interchangeably.

The most blatant example that comes to mind is when the chained Eternity was referenced as 'the omniverse' fairly early in the series:
http://i.imgur.com/MNQ0C3v.jpg

But a few issues later, the chained Eternity was referenced as 'the multiverse':
http://i.imgur.com/qeqD5Km.jpg


However, Ewing seems to have settled on "multiverse" to describe Marvel's totality, as he uses that term with far more frequency as of late. In the most recent issue of Ultimates, for example, ALL of Marvel's eight previous continuua were referred to as "multiverses" by the First Firmament:
http://i.imgur.com/c8ItAAP.jpg


All of that being said, Owen's 'creation in a box' feat is still ridiculously uber, but I am absolutely confident in labeling it a multiversal showing. thumb up

XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
Probably 6. Definitely 7.

EcstaticGrace
Originally posted by psycho gundam
You posted the entirety of the fight he did and another one as well all in one condenced post. Carver fuct that simple concept up as well

laughing

operator616
Originally posted by Galan007
Ewing definitely uses the terms interchangeably.

The most blatant example that comes to mind is when the chained Eternity was referenced as 'the omniverse' fairly early in the series:
http://i.imgur.com/MNQ0C3v.jpg

But a few issues later, the chained Eternity was referenced as 'the multiverse':
http://i.imgur.com/qeqD5Km.jpg


However, Ewing seems to have settled on "multiverse" to describe Marvel's totality, as he uses that term with far more frequency as of late. In the most recent issue of Ultimates, for example, ALL of Marvel's eight previous continuua were referred to as "multiverses" by the First Firmament:
http://i.imgur.com/c8ItAAP.jpg


All of that being said, Owen's 'creation in a box' feat is still ridiculously uber, but I am absolutely confident in labeling it a multiversal showing. thumb up

I get that, but how do you explain this, then?



http://www.newsarama.com/26688-the-ultimates-get-pretty-damn-cosmic-in-new-ongoing.html

A bit contradictory, no?

AlmightyKfish
Tbf Marvel has basically always used the two terms interchangeably, bar a few exceptions where people tried to explain a difference that was then ignored.

I mean Hickman's Avengers/NA to Secret Wars always says multiverse when they mean the entirety of existence. Even the Cap Britain Corps say multiverse from time to time and the term omniverse originated (in Marvel) from them back when Moore wrote it.

It's essentially semantics at this point.

As for the fight, they probably lose to T'challa.

operator616
Originally posted by AlmightyKfish
Tbf Marvel has basically always used the two terms interchangeably, bar a few exceptions where people tried to explain a difference that was then ignored.

I mean Hickman's Avengers/NA to Secret Wars always says multiverse when they mean the entirety of existence. Even the Cap Britain Corps say multiverse from time to time and the term omniverse originated (in Marvel) from them back when Moore wrote it.

It's essentially semantics at this point.

As for the fight, they probably lose to T'challa.

Marvel hasn't always used them interchangeably. Quasar, New exiles, and several handbooks have all mentioned that the omniverse encompasses the multiverse. That and the fact marvel has referenced (and even depicted) several times several multiverses (FF annual, Marvel Knights 4, Quasar, hell even Cable's title mentioned it and i recall also a marvel UK title mentioning it as well.)

The term actually originated before Captain Britain comics from what i recall. I remember a dr strange comic in the late 70s mentioning the term omniverse and also a thor letter's page in that time era. But back then it just wasn't properly defined yet.

Anyway, it's actually a very well established fact that Marvel does have multiple multiverses, so differentiating between the terms seems only logical, wouldn't you say?

Galan007
Originally posted by operator616
I get that, but how do you explain this, then?



http://www.newsarama.com/26688-the-ultimates-get-pretty-damn-cosmic-in-new-ongoing.html

A bit contradictory, no? In all fairness, that article was written November 6, 2015 -- just before the very first issue of The Ultimates was released. Back then, Ewing most definitely used 'omniverse' and 'multiverse' interchangeably -- they quite literally described the exact same cosmology... After reading the article you posted, however, that may have been due, in part, to his own unfamiliarity/ignorance of the term(s). By Ewing's own admission, one of the sole reasons he used 'omniverse' in the first place was because he just "really liked the word". laughing out loud

As I mentioned, though: Ewing *seems* to have finally settled on 'multiverse' to describe Marvel's current superstructure. Moreover, he also described every one of Marvel's eight previous totalities as 'multiverses' as well... Which also falls perfectly in-line with Hickman's pre-SW cosmology, so I don't mind it too much. thumb up

AlmightyKfish
Originally posted by operator616
Marvel hasn't always used them interchangeably. Quasar, New exiles, and several handbooks have all mentioned that the omniverse encompasses the multiverse. That and the fact marvel has referenced (and even depicted) several times several multiverses (FF annual, Marvel Knights 4, Quasar, hell even Cable's title mentioned it and i recall also a marvel UK title mentioning it as well.)

The term actually originated before Captain Britain comics from what i recall. I remember a dr strange comic in the late 70s mentioning the term omniverse and also a thor letter's page in that time era. But back then it just wasn't properly defined yet.

Anyway, it's actually a very well established fact that Marvel does have multiple multiverses, so differentiating between the terms seems only logical, wouldn't you say?

I think differentiating would be logical if there was internal consistency, but Marvel have always been happy for both multiverse and omniverse to mean the entirety of existence. Especially as even at the time of the stories that specifically mention omniverse there are others that use multiverse in the same way.

You can probably make cases out of specific examples and character statements, but they basically mean the same thing at this point. If it needs an explanation then I see it that if multiverses within the context of the omniverse are mentioned, you could sub that in with specific collections of universes within the multiverse, or vice versa.

Prof. T.C McAbe
They should stop at 6, though I would say that they could take 7 with the ALE easier than 6.

Galan007
You think it would be easier for the ALE to overtake God Doom's mind/sentience, than Owen's?

Interesting. Think I'd disagree there.

Prof. T.C McAbe
Originally posted by Galan007
You think it would be easier for the ALE to overtake God Doom's mind/sentience, than Owen's?

Interesting. Think I'd disagree there.

I said the opposite^^. 6 was Doom with owens power, 7 is Owen. Owen should come before Doom me thinks.

StiltmanFTW
Prof in a nutshell:

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Galan007
Originally posted by Prof. T.C McAbe
I said the opposite^^. 6 was Doom with owens power, 7 is Owen. Owen should come before Doom me thinks. Yeah, sorry. I knew what you said, but mixed it up when I typed the response.

Anyway, why on earth do you believe current Owen could be overcome with the ALE easier than God Doom? confused

MrMind
stops at 6 or 7

Diesldude
Originally posted by Galan007
Yeah, sorry. I knew what you said, but mixed it up when I typed the response.

Anyway, why on earth do you believe current Owen could be overcome with the ALE easier than God Doom? confused

Doom > Owen if everything else is equalized.

Since Doom has Owen's full power he should be above Owen with the same powerset.

Stoic
Stops hard at 5.

MrMind
ALE alone can counter IG, they get to 6 minimum

Stoic
Originally posted by MrMind
ALE alone can counter IG, they get to 6 minimum

That's poor logic champ. What happens when ants fight among giants? The ALE may very well be able to contend, but the rest of that stock gets erased in the first few moments. That's why they stop hard at 5.

MrMind
ants? lol the sheer lowballin here
AM and Darkseid destroyed universes
The JL team were powered by gods, Flash Racer alone was the universal death

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