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h2h.

Who wins?

Black Panther kicks both their ass.

Slade beats Panther as an appetizer, then kicks the main meals ass, Shiva.

And then golgo wakes up, feels a sticky fluid on his inner thigh and says "Not again! I really need to stop reading comics before I go to bed."

Originally posted by Zack M
Slade beats Panther as an appetizer, then kicks the main meals ass, Shiva.

Only in your world is Shiva>Panther.

Originally posted by deathslash
And then golgo wakes up, feels a sticky fluid on his inner thigh and says "Not again! I really need to stop reading comics before I go to bed."

excellent

In HTH, Shiva is superior.

Originally posted by Zack M
In HTH, Shiva is superior.

Us Panther fans call this an opinion.

Originally posted by Vanguard
Us Panther fans call this an opinion.

Fact, brah.

Originally posted by Zack M
Fact, brah. In pure h2h, she may be superior, but she still has one or two rather crappy showings. With even half of his gear, panther would wreck her though.

With that said, Slade probably takes this.

That's what I meant. In a pure HTH fight, Shiva wins. Those crappy showings were retconned, BTW.

Originally posted by Zack M
That's what I meant. In a pure HTH fight, Shiva wins. Those crappy showings were retconned, BTW. retconned? How?

She admitted she lost on purpose.

Originally posted by Zack M
She admitted she lost on purpose. in which fights?

Against Batman and his family.1

BTW, it was never shown that Batman actually beat Shiva in HTH. The only bad showing she has, is when she lost to Jason. Shiva has already beaten Batman twice, along with Nightwing.

Originally posted by Zack M
BTW, it was never shown that Batman actually beat Shiva in HTH. The only bad showing she has, is when she lost to Jason. Shiva has already beaten Batman twice, along with Nightwing. world's finest. Batman solidly owned her ass while fighting a bunch of other villains.

Originally posted by deathslash
world's finest. Batman solidly owned her ass while fighting a bunch of other villains.

She was being controlled by Grodd, IIRC. Plus, I'm speaking about current Shiva, not Pre-Flashpoint.

Originally posted by Zack M
She was being controlled by Grodd, IIRC. Plus, I'm speaking about current Shiva, not Pre-Flashpoint. pretty sure that Grundy was the only one being controlled by grodd. I thought Batman and his adventures remained completely in tact.

Originally posted by deathslash
pretty sure that Grundy was the only one being controlled by grodd. I thought Batman and his adventures remained completely in tact.

It was implied everyone was.

But it's Superman/Batman. Darkseid was hiding out in a barn, for gods sake.

Shiva's low end showings generally happen like that.. Another bad one was under Gail Simone, who I love as a writer but take most of her showings with a grain of salt, because at heart she's a fan fic writer putting "the rule of cool" ahead of all other considerations (Come on, would Shiva "really" get all sentimental about Huntresses performance to the point of requesting the honor of helping her to her feet?)

Originally posted by Vanguard
Black Panther kicks both their ass.
Slade would oneshot panther TBH.

Slade pre FP admitted that Cass was his equal and he only beats her by playing her. Shiva beats Cass every time. Really not seeing how Slade has this as easily as many think.

Shiva is marginally > Bronze Tiger and hes beaten Slade twice IIRC.
Bruce has outright admitted Shiva is a better fighter than him (in case anyone forgets its the reason he went to train under her to get his edge back adter Bane broke him).

I'd say this leans ever so slightly toward Shiva

Id say Shiva is the better HTH fighter, but Deathstrokes much better physical stats and other abilities make me side with him to win (and this is without his gear, with it he should win solidly).

Originally posted by abhilegend
Slade would oneshot panther TBH. wrong, no matter who would win, it wouldn't be easy and since when has Slade ever been in the oneshot metas category?

On topic, Slade wins with Shiva putting up a really solid fight.

Originally posted by deathslash
wrong, no matter who would win, it wouldn't be easy and since when has Slade ever been in the oneshot metas category?

On topic, Slade wins with Shiva putting up a really solid fight.
It'd good then that Panther isn't a meta level character.

He is a poor man's Batman.

Originally posted by abhilegend
It'd good then that Panther isn't a meta level character.

He is a poor man's Batman.

Originally posted by abhilegend
It'd good then that Panther isn't a meta level character.

He is a poor man's Batman.

Panther is meta. He is a clearly defined superhuman. Panther> Batman. He has superior stats, intellect, and wealth.

Originally posted by Vanguard
Panther is meta. He is a clearly defined superhuman. Panther> Batman. He has superior stats, intellect, and wealth.
Nah, he is nothing but Batman lite. Deal with it.

Originally posted by deathslash
wrong, no matter who would win, it wouldn't be easy and since when has Slade ever been in the oneshot metas category?

On topic, Slade wins with Shiva putting up a really solid fight.

With the gear Slade has, Abhi is right. Pretty soon Slade is going to be granted powers via the speed force. Its a massacre, really.

Originally posted by Zack M
With the gear Slade has, Abhi is right. Pretty soon Slade is going to be granted powers via the speed force. Its a massacre, really.

What ever is "going to happen soon" or post 52 is irrelevant to this debate.
OP clearly states post COIE so the version has been slecified to exclude Nu52. As such IMHO Shiva takes it.

In h2h ? Lady Shiva I want to believe !

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Originally posted by abhilegend
Nah, he is nothing but Batman lite. Deal with it.



stop the madness

Originally posted by Vanguard
stop the madness
He is diet coke version of Batman. Happy?

More like diet Dr. Pepper.

Originally posted by Zack M
More like diet Dr. Pepper.

Which tastes just like regular Dr. Pepper!!

Which is a flat-out lie. Was that your point?

Originally posted by Zack M
More like diet Dr. Pepper.

You too huh....

Lets cut the sh*t for a moment. In all seriousness.....Black Panther would wipe the floor with Batman and takes a slight majority over Slade.

Originally posted by Vanguard
You too huh....

Lets cut the sh*t for a moment. In all seriousness.....Black Panther would wipe the floor with Batman and takes a slight majority over Slade.
Batman would oneshot Panther.

With a glancing blow. Cut the shit out, puny panther isn't even the same league as Nightwing.

Originally posted by Vanguard
You too huh....

Lets cut the sh*t for a moment. In all seriousness.....Black Panther would wipe the floor with Batman and takes a slight majority over Slade.

Slade is too powerful at the moment. It's no competition, really.

Originally posted by Zack M
Slade is too powerful at the moment. It's no competition, really.

Its really just the suit.....it has nothing to do with Slade. Give me Panther's vibranium suit any day.

Originally posted by Vanguard
Its really just the suit.....it has nothing to do with Slade. Give me Panther's vibranium suit any day.

Vibranium suit isn't even in the same league.