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No God Blast

Thor
Superman (Pre DCnU)
Captain Marvel (Pre DCnU)
Terrax
Silver Surfer
Black Bolt
Human Torch
Cyclops

Uh-oh

Cyclops wins

Human Torch and Cyclops doesn't belong.

Human Torch can go Super Nova

Superman = ∞

Has to be Surfer.

Not really. Both Thor and Superman have better feats against characters.

Surfer is quite shitty in that category. All he has is blowing up rocks.

That's certainly one way to describe it....

Originally posted by psycho gundam
Surfer created a black hole as a simply side effect of his blast when destroying a planet

http://i1099.photobucket.com/albums/g386/psychogundam1/th_bh1_zpshibpr4lv.jpg http://i1099.photobucket.com/albums/g386/psychogundam1/th_bh2_zps6lsgdjvn.jpghttp://i1099.photobucket.com/albums/g386/psychogundam1/th_bh3_zpspvr0lstr.jpg

and away!

Maybe you and carver have more in common than you think, caught mis-interpreting the story, then coming back and saying the same thing months later.

http://www.reactiongifs.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/shrug-house.gif

The blackhole that Surfer created via energy discharged warped Airwalker's body rendering anyone from tampering it. This energy discharge also cause the destruction of that planet, so in a way Gundam wasn't really misinterpreting it.

My 2 cents at least.

Don't take it the wrong way but I never read any of that stuff you wrote until now. I totally see where you're going and it's really just a choice between the two events but it's nominal since at the end of the day he created a black hole pretty casually. At least that part is what cannot be lost here especially due to Thanos' dialogue when describing the feat

The thread you posted in went on for way longer than I remember, I think cause Abhilegend and myself were doing the same thing in a few threads and it bled over

No idea what feat you're all talking about, but the Ravenous/Surfer encounter certainly ended in a black hole as a byproduct of his attack.

Which is crazy impressive, imo.

Iirc the planet was already destroyed. Surfer fled and ended up at some asteroid field.

The feat was impressive because it was a casual energy discharge powerful enough to generate a black hole. Not sure where it says warping anything.

Originally posted by Ambient
The blackhole that Surfer created via energy discharged warped Airwalker's body rendering anyone from tampering it. This energy discharge also cause the destruction of that planet, so in a way Gundam wasn't really misinterpreting it.

My 2 cents at least.

Pretty much

I don't remember Airwalker even being there.

But I'll look at Annihilation: Silver Surfer again.

Originally posted by cdtm
I don't remember Airwalker even being there.

But I'll look at Annihilation: Silver Surfer again.

I edited the post with the relevant scans.

He created the black hole where Airwalkwr's body was. He didn't create a black hole out of Airwalkwr's body. It was Surfer's energy discharge as per the comic. Anything else is an attempt to diminish the feat.

This forum is still quite buggy on any mobile device or is it only on IOS; you can't quote or post pic (attach option). 7+ or ipad pro , anyone else having problem with this?

@ Phil - your right, check the scan they where not on a planet at all, more like an asteroid debri.

Anyho! Is all.

Originally posted by Ambient
This forum is still quite buggy on any mobile device or is it only on IOS; you can't quote or post pic (attach option). 7+ or ipad pro , anyone else having problem with this?

@ Phil - your right, check the scan they where not on a planet at all, more like an asteroid debri.

Anyho! Is all.

His discussion with Air-Walker happened light-years away after he had already fought Ravenous and destroyed the planet.

Anyway, you can't quote me because of my username, you can only use quick-quote which takes my whole post. I've already sent the request to change it, but the administrator is AWOL.

Figures.. still can't load pic, don't know why that is???

Wouldn't change the name dough .

I mean just in energy output Surfer is gonna come out on top.

Black holes, blowing up planets etc. Like, as much as there is debate about a fight between Surfer/Thor/Supes, Surfers main area of expertise is energy and when you remove god-blast his feats generally stand above the others.

Terrax, BB also rank pretty high up though. Closer to Thor and Supes than in basically any other category you would compare them.

Obviously Cyclops is last. The visor-less blast is powerful and all, but even that doesn't quite seem up there with Torch going all out with his supernova- like when he got stuck in the Negative Zone and went all out on Annihilus' troops.

Originally posted by Ambient
Figures.. still can't load pic, don't know why that is???

Wouldn't change the name dough . I won't change the whole name, just the special 'i character in it, and replace it with the normal letter.

I don't know about the attach option, I've never posted on the forum from anything other than laptop/PC. Just checked, and it works on them.

Originally posted by psycho gundam
That's certainly one way to describe it....



Originally posted by Ambient
and away!
What's so impressive about that? Some random seekers tanked the same attack.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Also back on topic, what is omitted from Surfer "black hole" creating blast is that Ravenous and the seekers survived the same blast and came out of the same black hole.

http://s6d2.turboimg.net/t1/32289102_Annihilation_-_Silver_Surfer_001-015.jpg http://s6d2.turboimg.net/t1/32289105_Annihilation_-_Silver_Surfer_001-016.jpg http://s6d2.turboimg.net/t1/32289109_Annihilation_-_Silver_Surfer_001-017.jpg

That's why space cheese is irrelevant. If Surfer had even koed Ravenous with that blast, I could find it impressive. As it is, its another smokescreen with little value in terms of relative power levels.

Originally posted by AlmightyKfish
I mean just in energy output Surfer is gonna come out on top.

Black holes, blowing up planets etc. Like, as much as there is debate about a fight between Surfer/Thor/Supes, Surfers main area of expertise is energy and when you remove god-blast his feats generally stand above the others.


Really? Then how is it that his energy blasts do shit all against pretty much any named character. Hulk has waded through his energy blasts several times, Thor has outright no sold it twice and the less we talk about his encounters with Thanos the better. Even characters who are described as less powerful than him have waded through his blasts.

It's same CBR argument for Gladiator, just because he destroyed some planets and created a black hole, he should be on top.

Black bolt I agree, Terrax is just a chump though.

Agreed.

Originally posted by abhilegend
What's so impressive about that? Some random seekers tanked the same attack.
A casual energy discharge resulting in a black hole creation is what makes it impressive. There was no seeker's present during that feat and was even explained as why. They couldn't track them after Surfer nab's AW because of the energy discharge he release that prevented the seeker's from tracking therefore following them.

Originally posted by Ambient
A casual energy discharge resulting in a black hole creation is what makes it impressive. There was no seeker's present during that feat and was even explained as why. They couldn't track them after Surfer nab's AW because of the energy discharge he release that prevented the seeker's from tracking therefore following them.
The seekers are emerging from the black hole as explained by Thanos here.

http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/32289109/Annihilation_-_Silver_Surfer_001-017.jpg.html

If you go by space cheese, its impressive. When you look at it as how characters interacted, its pretty much irrelevant.

Ah well u got me on that one.

Those seekers must be Kryptonian thought. Lol

Originally posted by Ambient
Ah well u got me on that one.

Those seekers must be Kryptonian thought. Lol
Not even close.

Preface: they all have great energy showings, so this ranking involves some hair-splitting, imho ...

1. Thor - godblast ability + dat hamma.
2. Surfer - energy is his thing, but he's on his own, ie, no hamma.
3. Superman - his specialty is melee (and would be #1 in that category).

Not motivated to rank the rest, sorry, though I could see Black Bolt as #4.

I always assumed that he detonated airwalkers body.

Whatever that entails.

Originally posted by krisblaze
I always assumed that he detonated airwalkers body.

Whatever that entails. He 'detonated' it into a blackhole, if that helps.



This is pretty much matter manipulation, though, so I personally wouldn't put it in the 'energy blast' category. It's like saying the potency of Firestorm's blasts are by how he turns paper into steel.

Surfer could always create black holes. That's no mistery. But it doesn't take great energy output to create a black hole. You just need to pressure matter down to the Schwarzschild radius and somehow keep it stable (a fiction plot device).

In other fiction like Star Trek movie 2009, a black hole was created by a small device made by humanoid beings ( technology).

^ You should apply for a desk spot on Fox news. There is an opening

Originally posted by krisblaze
I always assumed that he detonated airwalkers body.

Whatever that entails.
He created a black hole where Airwalker's body lay. As per the comic, it was created from his very own energy discharge. There was nothing about warping Airwalker's body into a black hole. It was done casually to boot. This is why it was so impressive.

http://oi65.tinypic.com/avhhd3.jpg

http://media.animevice.com/uploads/0/5602/301121-annihilationsilversurfekp8_super.jpg

Originally posted by psycho gundam
^ You should apply for a desk spot on Fox news. There is an opening He's right, though. Black holes aren't about 'how much energy is expelled' but about compression/density. You can compress a car into a blackhole, if you have the power to manipulate matter. Randomly shooting energy won't create a blackhole.

Originally posted by psycho gundam
^ You should apply for a desk spot on Fox news. There is an opening

Want to see that for the Daily Show spot alone.

Sure, but the area of effect is indicative of the amount of mass is involved with the singularity as well as it's lifespan. Not even every star in the universe contains enough mass to naturally collapse into one yet he (going with the Air-walker thing) converted a maybe 300 lbs humanoid into a black hole with a sizable accretion disc. What he's saying is a massive reduction almost as bad as Abhilegend's which is just straight up disregarding it completely

Originally posted by psycho gundam
Sure, but the area of effect is indicative of the amount of mass is involved with the singularity as well as it's lifespan. Not even every star in the universe contains enough mass to naturally collapse into one yet he (going with the Air-walker thing) converted a maybe 300 lbs humanoid into a black hole with a sizable accretion disc. What he's saying is a massive reduction almost as bad as Abhilegend's which is just straight up disregarding it completely Sure, but the requirement for large mass is only in regards to natural formation of a black hole from a dying star - an artificial one can be created as long as you compress mass from mostly anything, and Surfer's feat was exactly that.

I'm not sure if it's h1's point , but it's a great feat...for matter manipulation. It's not exactly 'shoot your energy at it until it goes boom'.

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I don't know why we're going about about 'space cheese' though - everybody who's read comics long enough knows they're superseded by combat feats. I'm more impressed by a blast beating Magog than one creating a blackhole, for example.

Black holes of that nature require large steller mass to be born and he didn't have anything close to that. Scientific notation is required to show how much mass he didn't have to create a black hole that was accreting matter all around it, yet there it was

Originally posted by abhilegend
Uh-oh

Originally posted by psycho gundam
Black holes of that nature require large steller mass to be born and he didn't have anything close to that. Scientific notation is required to show how much mass he didn't have to create a black hole that was accreting matter all around it, yet there it was Black holes don't need stellar mass to be born - the lower limit is literally orders of magnitude smaller. If you mean that the 'size' of the black hole implies the amount of mass it would have, that's true. The mass itself is not constant either - as it 'eats' the matter around it, it grows in mass. But the bottom line is that it still involves mass, and not a 'blast'. You can't blast your way into creating a blackhole. The feat is energy/matter manipulation and as such, I don't think it's suitable for this thread

Originally posted by leonidas

These type of threads are just the same as always.

"He created that black hole, destroyed that planet, destroyed that star".

Who gives a shit honestly? When Surfer can honestly beat anyone worth anything with energy blasts, do let me know.

Like this.

http://i1007.photobucket.com/albums/af191/lgu88/Superman/Energy/hv/supermanbatman33k.jpg

Not blowing up planets and shit.

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
He created a black hole where Airwalker's body lay. As per the comic, it was created from his very own energy discharge. There was nothing about warping Airwalker's body into a black hole. It was done casually to boot. This is why it was so impressive.

http://oi65.tinypic.com/avhhd3.jpg

http://media.animevice.com/uploads/0/5602/301121-annihilationsilversurfekp8_super.jpg
That just shows that Surfer intentionally created a black hole and not that he generated a black hole by accident.

What people dont understand is that supermans blast is different than cyclops blast. those are 2 different energy level based attacks.

Originally posted by abhilegend
These type of threads are just the same as always.

"He created that black hole, destroyed that planet, destroyed that star".

Who gives a shit honestly? When Surfer can honestly beat anyone worth anything with energy blasts, do let me know.

Like this.

*skip*

Not blowing up planets and shit.

It's really absurd to go by space cheese.

I mean, if you look at how Black Bolt's scream does against Thanos:
http://imgur.com/a/imqfa#0

and compare it to how Surfer's blasts do against him:

http://i.imgur.com/qPdyStD.jpg
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http://i.imgur.com/sumyhwj.png

It's laughable.

Or how Thor treats Surfer's blasts:
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-7zhkrga0Chg/T6GrnlRWKCI/AAAAAAAABoc/l6POr-GX0F8/s1600/Hero-Envy-Silver-Surfer-vs-Thor9b.jpg
http://readcomiconline.to/Comic/The-Mighty-Thor-2011/Issue-5?id=31364#4

When we have Sentry shitting himself from Black Bolt's whisper etc.

Main point - doing random cool shit in space means nothing in fights. Otherwise Classic Drax is king.

I wouldn't even put Surfer's attacks in top 3 as far as this thread is concerned.

Thor and Silver Surfer and they everybody else

Thor and surfer above every one else

Originally posted by Genii96
Thor and surfer above every one else

Yep. How would you rank these two?

Originally posted by the Darkone
Thor and Silver Surfer and they everybody else Originally posted by Genii96
Thor and surfer above every one else Originally posted by carver9
Yep. How would you rank these two?


Care to prove that?

Thor would be at the top.

Edit: assuming this is greatest feats.

Edit x2: no God blast? Pfft, weak thread.