WWH vs. Yoda

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Don Draper
This is WWH as seen in the main series. No worldbreaker.

This is Yoda as of ROTS. He is armed with a lightsaber and all of his showings can be used.


Fight takes place in NYC.

DarkSaint85
Yoda sends him into space.

Galan007
http://i.imgur.com/fmtRMMCh.jpg


whistle

Inedian
Originally posted by Galan007
http://i.imgur.com/fmtRMMCh.jpg


whistle

It's not some big mountain, but good feat. Still WWH with ease.

DarkSaint85
The mountain was also actively resisting Yoda. As in, someone was controlling it, so not just a heavy rock.

Prof. T.C McAbe
Yoda, the true green behemoth

deathslash
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
The mountain was also actively resisting Yoda. As in, someone was controlling it, so not just a heavy rock. pretty sure that the mountain was also force resistant too.

carver9
WWH stomps. Hulk has broken out of Jean TK who during the time had possession of the force.

StiltmanFTW
When?

carver9
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
When?

Posted the scan before. Don't feel like going through my photobucket.

StiltmanFTW
Originally posted by carver9
Posted the scan before. Don't feel like going through my photobucket.

http://replygif.net/thumbnail/834.gif

Galan007
Originally posted by Inedian
It's not some big mountain, but good feat. Still WWH with ease. Eh, what?

The creature Yoda held back with the force literally WAS a mountain:
Originally posted by Galan007
For more of a sense of scale, here is the creature Yoda fought in its entirety -- when they call it a mountain, they are being quite literal:
https://s6d7.turboimg.net/t1/34638981_Star_Wars_2015-_029-010.jpg https://s6d7.turboimg.net/t1/34638982_Star_Wars_2015-_029-011.jpg https://s6d7.turboimg.net/t1/34638983_Star_Wars_2015-_029-013.jpg https://s6d7.turboimg.net/t1/34638984_Star_Wars_2015-_029-014.jpg https://s6d7.turboimg.net/t1/34638985_Star_Wars_2015-_029-015.jpg https://s6d7.turboimg.net/t1/34638986_Star_Wars_2015-_029-016.jpg


"One Jedi alone against a living mountain... I almost feel sorry for the mountain."

Lol.


Aside from that, the material the mountain was composed of is extremely force-resistant:
Originally posted by Galan007
Also worth mentioning that shortly before holding back the mountain-creature, Yoda could barely move a small boulder made of the same, esoteric material -- it literally took all his strength/power to do so, and left him exhausted afterward:
https://s6d8.turboimg.net/t1/34639028_Star_Wars_2015-_028-019.jpg https://s6d8.turboimg.net/t1/34639029_Star_Wars_2015-_028-020.jpg


So holding back an entire f*cking mountain comprised of said material...within a few hours of the above showing...is a HUGE testament to Yoda's overall prowess with the Force -- his ability to massively grow/evolve/expand his power and knowledge in a very short amount of time.

*And mind you: whilst holding back the mountain, he was simultaneously restraining the horde of force-sensetive wildling children that were attempting to kill him. Legends or otherwise, that is easily one of the best raw TK showings in the mythos... F*cking unreal, tbh. thumb up



Originally posted by carver9
Posted the scan before. Don't feel like going through my photobucket. Tell me the issue, then. I'd be glad to post the scan for you. smile

DarkSaint85
Is this like when Kluh KOed Apoc?

StiltmanFTW
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Is this like when Kluh KOed Apoc?

I have the same feeling about this. Most likely, yes.

I do remember Hellion's TK failing against WWH, though. But that's not quite the same as Phoenix Force Jean.

Juntai
still got tyrannosaurus rekt by the emperor. stick out tongue

CosmicComet
Fight starts.

*thunderclap*

Fight over.

dynamix
wow yoda's a beast!!

Inedian
WWH still wins. Too much force for Yoda.

psycho gundam
Originally posted by Galan007
http://i.imgur.com/fmtRMMCh.jpg


whistle Green scar can be easily argued to be at least 1000 x stronger at base than Savage Hulk is let alone Banner-Hulk from Secret wars (Banner in control of Hulk's body and per usual limiting his rage.had to get tricked into getting stronger via rage), and the mountain range bracing incident is very similar to Yoda holding him "telekinetically" against the power of his entire body.

http://i1099.photobucket.com/albums/g386/psychogundam1/hulk/th_m1_zpsltrm6rbg.jpghttp://i1099.photobucket.com/albums/g386/psychogundam1/hulk/th_m2_zpsnqyg2zr2.jpghttp://i1099.photobucket.com/albums/g386/psychogundam1/hulk/th_m3_zpspfsykokh.jpghttp://i1099.photobucket.com/albums/g386/psychogundam1/hulk/th_m4_zpshru9bptw.jpghttp://i1099.photobucket.com/albums/g386/psychogundam1/hulk/th_m5_zpseq053ct1.jpghttp://i1099.photobucket.com/albums/g386/psychogundam1/hulk/th_m6_zpsc4fwpukv.jpg

psycho gundam
p2

Not to mention the same Green scar pulling the tectonic plates of Saakar back together as they were being forced apart by the Red king's doomsday device. Saakar is a planet far larger than Earth is

http://i1099.photobucket.com/albums/g386/psychogundam1/hulk/th_plates1_zpsk3xaazbn.jpghttp://i1099.photobucket.com/albums/g386/psychogundam1/hulk/th_plates2_zpskrxpw6bm.jpghttp://i1099.photobucket.com/albums/g386/psychogundam1/hulk/th_plates3_zpskf8sa3ss.jpghttp://i1099.photobucket.com/albums/g386/psychogundam1/hulk/th_plates4_zpsgkobp7uj.jpg

Damborgson
Originally posted by CosmicComet
Fight starts.

*thunderclap*

Fight over.

I dont know if Yoda's thunderclap is that strong but I guess you could make a strong case for him.

StiltmanFTW
Originally posted by psycho gundam
Green scar can be easily argued to be at least 1000 x stronger at base than Savage Hulk is let alone Banner-Hulk from Secret wars (Banner in control of Hulk's body and per usual limiting his rage.had to get tricked into getting stronger via rage), and the mountain range bracing incident is very similar to Yoda holding him "telekinetically" against the power of his entire body.

http://i1099.photobucket.com/albums/g386/psychogundam1/hulk/th_m1_zpsltrm6rbg.jpghttp://i1099.photobucket.com/albums/g386/psychogundam1/hulk/th_m2_zpsnqyg2zr2.jpghttp://i1099.photobucket.com/albums/g386/psychogundam1/hulk/th_m3_zpspfsykokh.jpghttp://i1099.photobucket.com/albums/g386/psychogundam1/hulk/th_m4_zpshru9bptw.jpghttp://i1099.photobucket.com/albums/g386/psychogundam1/hulk/th_m5_zpseq053ct1.jpghttp://i1099.photobucket.com/albums/g386/psychogundam1/hulk/th_m6_zpsc4fwpukv.jpg

Originally posted by psycho gundam
p2

Not to mention the same Green scar pulling the tectonic plates of Saakar back together as they were being forced apart by the Red king's doomsday device. Saakar is a planet far larger than Earth is

http://i1099.photobucket.com/albums/g386/psychogundam1/hulk/th_plates1_zpsk3xaazbn.jpghttp://i1099.photobucket.com/albums/g386/psychogundam1/hulk/th_plates2_zpskrxpw6bm.jpghttp://i1099.photobucket.com/albums/g386/psychogundam1/hulk/th_plates3_zpskf8sa3ss.jpghttp://i1099.photobucket.com/albums/g386/psychogundam1/hulk/th_plates4_zpsgkobp7uj.jpg

I knew it was only a matter of time before the SW feat got posted...

Still, I like it when you rep the Hulk. Not so much when you flirt with thorbags pack, though. Never mate with enemies, pg.

CosmicComet
Originally posted by Damborgson
I dont know if Yoda's thunderclap is that strong but I guess you could make a strong case for him.

Ummm they might both be green and roughly the same height and weight, but Yoda can't thunderclap.

StiltmanFTW
1) Damb was kidding.

2) Yoda may very well be able to emulate t-clap effects with the Force.

CosmicComet
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
1) Damb was kidding.


Oh wow.

StiltmanFTW
I've got some carver-lv sarcasm detectors. I feel as if I own the Internet.

http://tinyurl.com/mk7ttaa

Galan007
Originally posted by psycho gundam
Green scar can be easily argued to be at least 1000 x stronger at base than Savage Hulk is let alone Banner-Hulk from Secret wars (Banner in control of Hulk's body and per usual limiting his rage.had to get tricked into getting stronger via rage), and the mountain range bracing incident is very similar to Yoda holding him "telekinetically" against the power of his entire body.

http://i1099.photobucket.com/albums/g386/psychogundam1/hulk/th_m1_zpsltrm6rbg.jpghttp://i1099.photobucket.com/albums/g386/psychogundam1/hulk/th_m2_zpsnqyg2zr2.jpghttp://i1099.photobucket.com/albums/g386/psychogundam1/hulk/th_m3_zpspfsykokh.jpghttp://i1099.photobucket.com/albums/g386/psychogundam1/hulk/th_m4_zpshru9bptw.jpghttp://i1099.photobucket.com/albums/g386/psychogundam1/hulk/th_m5_zpseq053ct1.jpghttp://i1099.photobucket.com/albums/g386/psychogundam1/hulk/th_m6_zpsc4fwpukv.jpg *Hulk isn't holding the entire mountain there -- just *a portion of* the mountain.

Still a cool feat, but I'm not sure why it matters in regards to Yoda..? Sure, WWH is strong enough to lift mountains, but Yoda could theoretically attack him with a slew of invisible mountain-lifting TK attacks... Lets be honest: not even WWH is tanking that type of shit.


Dunno who takes this, but Hulk isn't winning 'with ease' like some have claimed... I see Yoda BFR'ing him as more likely option than anything else I've heard, tbh. /shrug

StiltmanFTW
Afaik, Spider-Man & SW is canon.

DarkSaint85
This is what I don't get about WWH.

He's the most powerful/strongest/durable Hulk to date.

Ok, I get that.

I've seen Savage tank some of the attacks that affected WWH, however.

When the Gamma Corps devolved WWH - I've seen Savage shrug similar attacks off. Yet, it worked on WWH.

Based on Savage's performance, however, he shouldn't have even felt it. So we can't just extrapolate based off Savage/other versions of Hulk.

StiltmanFTW
Smh at Galan's editing.

He's acting as if we don't screenshot his posts the moment they appear.

Galan007
laughing out loud I removed the Spidey/SW bit because I feel like it would have taken this discussion to places it simply needn't go.

The way I see it: Hulk lifting a portion of a mountain has absolutely nothing to do with this battle. The only thing it proves is that Hulk could brace/hold any buildings Yoda dropped on him -- but Yoda obviously isn't restricted to throwing objects at him. thumb up

DarkSaint85
Originally posted by Galan007
laughing out loud I removed the Spidey/SW bit because I feel like it would have taken this discussion to places it simply needn't go.

The way I see it: Hulk lifting a portion of a mountain has absolutely nothing to do with this battle. The only thing it proves is that Hulk could brace/hold any buildings Yoda dropped on him -- but Yoda obviously isn't restricted to throwing objects at him. thumb up

My point was that Yoda could lift a mountain that was resisting him, and was immune to his powers.

He could throw the Hulk into space.

Nightcrawler managed to move him, after all. And he was limited by the Hulk's mass.

iceman24567
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Smh at Galan's editing.

He's acting as if we don't screenshot his posts the moment they appear. Old man Galan probably doesn't even know what a screenshot is hes probably ducking for cover as we speak.

CosmicComet
And what if Hulk uses his anti-bfr powers?

psycho gundam
Originally posted by Galan007
*Hulk isn't holding the entire mountain there -- just *a portion of* the mountain.

Still a cool feat, but I'm not sure why it matters in regards to Yoda..? Sure, WWH is strong enough to lift mountains, but Yoda could theoretically attack him with a slew of invisible mountain-lifting TK attacks... Lets be honest: not even WWH is tanking that type of shit.


Dunno who takes this, but Hulk isn't winning 'with ease' like some have claimed... I see Yoda BFR'ing him as more likely option than anything else I've heard, tbh. /shrug It's a portion, yes, but the mountain cracked when it hit the ground so Hulk held up "2 miles" of loose rock that can shift. The rock monster Yoda restrained with the force maybe equal to that 2 mile size if you highball, but the point is that it would take a similar amount of effort from the force as it took a weaker Hulk form to do essentially the same task. Fast forward to Green scar who's actually in this thread outperforming that feat exponentially per arm.

Bfr is a given but can Yoda's force restrain Green scar? I think that's dubious at best. Maybe Vector scans would be more appropriate but whatever

CosmicComet
Again, what's stopping Hulk from thunderclapping Yoda into nothingness at the start of the fight?

Maybe Legends Jedi have the speed feats to stop this from happening, but this is canon Yoda, and I don't think he's anywhere close to as fast as Hulk is.

Damborgson
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
I've got some carver-lv sarcasm detectors. I feel as if I own the Internet.

http://tinyurl.com/mk7ttaa

Can never hide anything from you damnit Stilt.


Anywho, I don't know, Yoda of course has access to great power, but to overcome the freakin force of nature constantly throwing himself at him and amping in power, breaking the landscape, etc. I don't think he can pull it off.

Galan007
Originally posted by psycho gundam
Bfr is a given but can Yoda's force restrain Green scar? This is a tough question to answer with any kind of certainty. I mean, the mountain-creature was very resistant to the force(Yoda could barely even move small pebbles comprised of this material beforehand.) Despite this, Yoda was still capable of telekinetically immobilizing several other force-sensitives whilst holding the entire mountain(which implies that holding the mountain alone didn't tax him.) With that in mind, logic dictates he could do much, much more under 'normal' circumstances.

*On a sidenote: it could be argued that Yoda was still tired/weakened to some extent when he confronted the mountain-creature, given that he alluded to being nigh-exhausted shortly beforehand:
https://s6d8.turboimg.net/t1/34639028_Star_Wars_2015-_028-019.jpg https://s6d8.turboimg.net/t1/34639029_Star_Wars_2015-_028-020.jpg

...But that's neither here nor there.


In answer to your question: do I believe Yoda's TK, if used in an 'all-out' capacity, is potentially strong enough to at least grab/hold Hulk long enough to fling him away for a BFR win? Yeah, I think it's possible.

Originally posted by CosmicComet
Again, what's stopping Hulk from thunderclapping Yoda into nothingness at the start of the fight?

Maybe Legends Jedi have the speed feats to stop this from happening, but this is canon Yoda, and I don't think he's anywhere close to as fast as Hulk is. Yoda doesn't have much in the way of speed feats. However, stalemating Palpatine, whose speed is pretty well-established(often described by even Jedi/Sith Masters as 'blur-esque', 'nearly invisible', etc.) shows us the levels at which he can operate when need be. Also keep in mind that Yoda is quite an adept precog -- if used in conjunction with his speed, this could be an invaluable tool, imo.

-K-M-
Originally posted by Inedian
WWH still wins. Too much force for Yoda.

Pun?

carver9
This is dumb. How in the world is Yoda force holding one of the strongest character in comics. Sad thing is, someone is comparing Hulk to a mountain creature who's fts doesn't come close to Hulk. It's dumb.

iceman24567
Gotta love how carver will just ignore old man Galans posts and claim this thread is dumb typical carter

carver9
Originally posted by iceman24567
Gotta love how carver will just ignore old man Galans posts and claim this thread is dumb typical carter

Him posting a ftless character not resisting Yoda whereas a weaker Hulk punched through planetary TK. Yeah, Galan post is irrelevant.

celeyhyga17
Hulk's best weapon against Yoda is the thunderclap. Force hold? Thunderclap. Force choke? Thunderclap. Attempt to mind phuk? Thunderclap. Run and jump around Hulk? Thunderclap.

iceman24567
Originally posted by carver9
Him posting a ftless character not resisting Yoda whereas a weaker Hulk punched through planetary TK. Yeah, Galan post is irrelevant. His size and natural resistance to the force makes the feat impressive everybody understood that except you no expression

Rao Kal El
Hahahahaha this thread thumb up

KMC's punching bag big grin

carver9
Originally posted by iceman24567
His size and natural resistance to the force makes the feat impressive everybody understood that except you no expression

Which doesn't matter tbh. We are talking about a guy who punch continent size ships across space vs a guy holding up a mountain. At the end of the day, the beings are not the Hulk and isn't close to him in power either. He then brings up Yoda hitting Hulk with mountain level power not realizing that Hulk recently shrugged off enough power to level a continent and walked through planetary level power.

iceman24567
Originally posted by carver9
Which doesn't matter tbh. We are talking about a guy who punch continent size ships across space vs a guy holding up a mountain. At the end of the day, the beings are not the Hulk and isn't close to him in power either. He then brings up Yoda hitting Hulk with mountain level power not realizing that Hulk recently shrugged off enough power to level a continent and walked through planetary level power. Galan never said Yoda would win you are huffing and puffing because we wont concede that its a completely one sided affair and you have yet to prove that Yoda cant bfr the Hulk

Darth Thor
Nah Carver's right. Yoda's mountain feat is damn impressive for Star Wars, but it doesn't touch comic book heavy weights such as Hulk.

iceman24567
Originally posted by Darth Thor
Nah Carver's right. Yoda's mountain feat is damn impressive for Star Wars, but it doesn't touch comic book heavy weights such as Hulk. Nah hes wrong Yoda is more than capable of bfring Hulk without a doubt

Darth Thor
Originally posted by iceman24567
Nah hes wrong Yoda is more than capable of bfring Hulk without a doubt


Bfr'ing him how and to where exactly?

iceman24567
Originally posted by Darth Thor
Bfr'ing him how and to where exactly? no expression

Galan007
Originally posted by Darth Thor
Nah Carver's right. Yoda's mountain feat is damn impressive for Star Wars, but it doesn't touch comic book heavy weights such as Hulk. If this were a benchpress contest, I could see your point. However, no one except the forum moron is trying to turn this into 'Hulk's strength vs. Yoda's TK' debate.

My contention is simply that Yoda's TK...if used 'all-out'...is potentially strong enough to grasp Hulk long enough to throw him from the field for a BFR-win. Sans that, Hulk could likely power through his attacks eventually.

cdtm
See that?

If that can shishkabab him, a lightsaber would do much worse.

StiltmanFTW
Originally posted by cdtm
See that?

If that can shishkabab him, a lightsaber would do much worse.

See this...?

https://s20.postimg.org/nv0n2ffwt/Hulk_1_2014_Adamantium_Bullets.jpg

cdtm
PIS.

StiltmanFTW
Your edit was caught.

Inedian
Yoda isn't restraining WWH. Yoda impressive nevertheless.

DarkSaint85
Originally posted by Darth Thor
Bfr'ing him how and to where exactly?

People are getting the wrong idea.

No one is saying he's going to hold the Hulk down with an invisible fist.

Imagine throwing a cat. All it takes is that initial grab - when the cat is actually in flight, you're not holding it, are you?

Basically, this:

https://s5.postimg.org/x0ayuqu6v/1517425-wwh_xmen_3_dcp_0012.jpg

EXCEPT Yoda, as demonstrated, can move FAR larger items than Nightcrawler.

Damborgson
Originally posted by cdtm
See that?

If that can shishkabab him, a lightsaber would do much worse.

That sand is super charged with the old power by amped Skaar, hardly a low showing.

Darth Thor
Originally posted by Galan007
If this were a benchpress contest, I could see your point. However, no one except the forum moron is trying to turn this into 'Hulk's strength vs. Yoda's TK' debate.

My contention is simply that Yoda's TK...if used 'all-out'...is potentially strong enough to grasp Hulk long enough to throw him from the field for a BFR-win. Sans that, Hulk could likely power through his attacks eventually.




Originally posted by DarkSaint85
People are getting the wrong idea.

No one is saying he's going to hold the Hulk down with an invisible fist.

Imagine throwing a cat. All it takes is that initial grab - when the cat is actually in flight, you're not holding it, are you?

Basically, this:

https://s5.postimg.org/x0ayuqu6v/1517425-wwh_xmen_3_dcp_0012.jpg

EXCEPT Yoda, as demonstrated, can move FAR larger items than Nightcrawler.




I get these points, but I'm still not getting where you're both claiming Hulk will be Bfr'd to?

You think Yoda's throwing him into space? Lol Because anywhere else and Hulk is leaping back the next second.

Plus I find even the notion of Yoda gripping Hulk mid leap to be dubious, and a pretty speculative case for Yoda.

Here's me speculating on what Hulk would do in that scenario.. IF he gets gripped while in mid leap, then Hulk will thunderclap Yoda. My "speculation" here however has actual backing as it's something Hulk has done multiple times over. Yoda gripping something as strong as Hulk mid-air and Bfr'ing him into space however is speculation with Zero backing from any part of Star Wars canon.

DarkSaint85
Originally posted by Darth Thor
I get these points, but I'm still not getting where you're both claiming Hulk will be Bfr'd to?

You think Yoda's throwing him into space? Lol Because anywhere else and Hulk is leaping back the next second.

Plus I find even the notion of Yoda gripping Hulk mid leap to be dubious, and a pretty speculative case for Yoda.

Here's me speculating on what Hulk would do in that scenario.. IF he gets gripped while in mid leap, then Hulk will thunderclap Yoda. My "speculation" here however has actual backing as it's something Hulk has done multiple times over. Yoda gripping something as strong as Hulk mid-air and Bfr'ing him into space however is speculation with Zero backing from any part of Star Wars canon.

If into space, then sure.

Except it has backing from WWH's canon. Nightcrawler gripped him, and sent him a short distance away.

He didn't grab Nightcrawler and punch him away, or throw him, or thunderclap him away, or whatever. Nightcrawler grabbed him (like a Yoda fist) and 'threw' him. Except NC is one of the weakest teleporters out there, and was unable to due to WWH's mass.

deathslash
Originally posted by Darth Thor
I get these points, but I'm still not getting where you're both claiming Hulk will be Bfr'd to?

You think Yoda's throwing him into space? Lol Because anywhere else and Hulk is leaping back the next second.

Plus I find even the notion of Yoda gripping Hulk mid leap to be dubious, and a pretty speculative case for Yoda.

Here's me speculating on what Hulk would do in that scenario.. IF he gets gripped while in mid leap, then Hulk will thunderclap Yoda. My "speculation" here however has actual backing as it's something Hulk has done multiple times over. Yoda gripping something as strong as Hulk mid-air and Bfr'ing him into space however is speculation with Zero backing from any part of Star Wars canon. how do you find the thought of him gripping the hulk in mid leap to be dubious? We've already seen a multi ton mountain that was force resistant get held in place and what exactly is going to stop Yoda from erecting a force bubble to protect himself from the thunderclap? Hulk managing to successfully thunderclap him depends on whether Yoda decides to hold the hulk in a direction that faces him.

Sin I AM
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
People are getting the wrong idea.

No one is saying he's going to hold the Hulk down with an invisible fist.

Imagine throwing a cat. All it takes is that initial grab - when the cat is actually in flight, you're not holding it, are you?

Basically, this:



EXCEPT Yoda, as demonstrated, can move FAR larger items than Nightcrawler.

pis

DarkSaint85
Originally posted by Sin I AM
pis

For whom evil face

Sin I AM
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
For whom evil face

Well for one Kurt has teleported a larger amount of mass than Hulk. WWH was such a trash arc

Darth Thor
Originally posted by DarkSaint85


Except it has backing from WWH's canon. Nightcrawler gripped him, and sent him a short distance away.

He didn't grab Nightcrawler and punch him away, or throw him, or thunderclap him away, or whatever. Nightcrawler grabbed him (like a Yoda fist) and 'threw' him. Except NC is one of the weakest teleporters out there, and was unable to due to WWH's mass.


So we're going to use 1 low showing for Hulk being caught off guard to try and make a case for Yoda here?

I mean are you really making the case here that anyone stronger than Nightcrawler can throw a Hulk whose ready for them.

Then you're taking it to another level saying Yoda will grip him in mid-air, I.e. easily resist the Force of Hulk's leap, and then just throw him into space (out of character for Yoda) with Hulk just baffled not knowing what to do Lol


The only advantage I see Yoda having here is Hulk underestimating him.

DarkSaint85
Originally posted by Darth Thor
So we're going to use 1 low showing for Hulk being caught off guard to try and make a case for Yoda here?

I mean are you really making the case here that anyone strange than Nightcrawler can throw a Hulk whose ready for them.

Then you're taking it too another level saying Yoda will grip him in mid-air, I.e. easily resist the Force of Hulk's leap, and then just throw him into space (out of character for Yoda) with Hulk just baffled not knowing what to do Lol

Low showing?

That implies that there are other showings of Nightcrawler attempting to, and failing to port WWH.

By all means, post them.

OP has said we used WWH in this thread. Fair enough.

All I have seen and shown, is the one time Nightcrawler ported WWH, he succeeded. If you have showings to the contrary, then post them.

I never said mid-leap? Not that he can't, but not sure where you are adding the mid-leap from. Because it makes Yoda's job even easier, when he throws Hulk on the upwards part of his leap.

Imagine jumping up into the air as hard as you can - and as you are travelling upwards, being pushed upwards.

Hulk would essentially BFR himself thumb up

Rao Kal El
Ammong the many powers of the Hulk he is immovable and unstoppable.

It is preposterous to think Yoda could move the Hulk even if he has moved a larger mass that basically resists Yoda's own power, preposterous!!! mmm

Galan and Darksaint always pro superman closeted fans...

???...

This is not a Superman thread???...

Sorry, my bad!!!

SquallX
Originally posted by carver9
This is dumb. How in the world is Yoda force holding one of the strongest character in comics. Sad thing is, someone is comparing Hulk to a mountain creature who's fts doesn't come close to Hulk. It's dumb.

Irony! such a ***** heh carver? Especially when used against you.

Darth Thor
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Low showing?

That implies that there are other showings of Nightcrawler attempting to, and failing to port WWH.

By all means, post them.

OP has said we used WWH in this thread. Fair enough.

All I have seen and shown, is the one time Nightcrawler ported WWH, he succeeded. If you have showings to the contrary, then post them.

I never said mid-leap? Not that he can't, but not sure where you are adding the mid-leap from. Because it makes Yoda's job even easier, when he throws Hulk on the upwards part of his leap.

Imagine jumping up into the air as hard as you can - and as you are travelling upwards, being pushed upwards.

Hulk would essentially BFR himself thumb up


Urm like all his fights, lik never. When did Thor and Gladiator easily throw him around. How many times has Spider-Man fought Hulk? Did he ever chuck him around? Is Nightcrawler stronger than Spider-Man?

Lol yeah because every time Hulk leaps some High Herald Bfr's him into space right? The argument here in Yoda's favour is getting a bit ridiculous. And the reason for that is Star Wars in general is out of its depth when up against Marvel and DC high heralds.

DarkSaint85
Originally posted by Darth Thor
Urm like all his fights, lik never. When did Thor and Gladiator easily throw him around. How many times has Spider-Man fought Hulk? Did he ever chuck him around? Is Nightcrawler stronger than Spider-Man?

Lol yeah because every time Hulk leaps some High Herald Bfr's him into space right? The argument here in Yoda's favour is getting a bit ridiculous. And the reason for that is Star Wars in general is out of its depth when up against Marvel and DC high heralds.

WWH feats, please.

Galan007
Originally posted by cdtm
See that?

If that can shishkabab him, a lightsaber would do much worse. Doubt this would ever get to sabers... Regardless of who wins.

deathslash
Originally posted by Darth Thor
Urm like all his fights, lik never. When did Thor and Gladiator easily throw him around. How many times has Spider-Man fought Hulk? Did he ever chuck him around? Is Nightcrawler stronger than Spider-Man?

Lol yeah because every time Hulk leaps some High Herald Bfr's him into space right? The argument here in Yoda's favour is getting a bit ridiculous. And the reason for that is Star Wars in general is out of its depth when up against Marvel and DC high heralds. you're actually comparing Thor and gladiator and their use of physical force to a psuedo mystical force that hulk can niether resist or break? Also, Thor, gladiator, Hercules, and Luke Cage have all put the hulk flat on his ass at one point or another.

I don't think you understand, things like physical strength and leverage have no bearing on the force or telekenisis in general. Also, a while back, you said that the only way that Yoda wins is if he's underestimated. They're fighting in character and we've seen the hulk underestimate his opponents before. Tell me why he's not going to underestimate the three foot tall green old man?

Darth Thor
Originally posted by deathslash


I don't think you understand, things like physical strength and leverage have no bearing on the force or telekenisis in general.


Now that's for you to prove.

In a Vader comic he couldn't force choke a rancor because it had a cybernetic reinforced throat.



Originally posted by DarkSaint85
WWH feats, please.


He could hardly be budged by Juggernaut's best blows.

DarkSaint85
Originally posted by Darth Thor
Now that's for you to prove.

In a Vader comic he couldn't force choke a rancor because it had a cybernetic reinforced throat.






He could hardly be budged by Juggernaut's best blows.

With leverage, sure. He can brace against the ground (which is exactly what he did with Juggy).

Removed of that leverage, with nothing to brace against? Nightcrawler ported him easy.

StiltmanFTW
Originally posted by Darth Thor
He could hardly be budged by Juggernaut's best blows.

What a lie. He was bleeding like a virgin and had to resort to BFR to save himself.

Galan007
Originally posted by Darth Thor
Now that's for you to prove.

In a Vader comic he couldn't force choke a rancor because it had a cybernetic reinforced throat. We saw Vader fight through that 'weakness' later in the series, though. He used the force to overcome Cylo having completely crippled the electronics in his own suit.

Also, we're talking about Yoda here.

iceman24567
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
What a lie. He was bleeding like a virgin and had to resort to BFR to save himself. laughing You perv

Galan007
Originally posted by iceman24567
laughing You perv Stilt has filled Mindset's shoes quite nicely. thumb up

iceman24567
Originally posted by Galan007
Stilt has filled Mindset's shoes quite nicely. thumb up thumb up We all miss pre crisis Mindset good thing Stilty has taken up the mantle

zopzop
Any version of Hulk wins. Get back to me when Yoda destroys an asteroid twice the size of Earth or threatens to sink the entire Eastern Coast of the US by just walking.

StiltmanFTW
Originally posted by Galan007
Stilt has filled Mindset's shoes quite nicely. thumb up

Originally posted by iceman24567
thumb up We all miss pre crisis Mindset good thing Stilty has taken up the mantle

Someone had to. Thank you, guys.

Do we even know who was responsible for neutering Mindset so badly...?

iceman24567
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Someone had to. Thank you, guys.

Do we even know who was responsible for neutering Mindset so badly...? Some useless skank no doubt

HulkIsHulk
Originally posted by Darth Thor
How many times has Spider-Man fought Hulk? Did he ever chuck him around? Is Nightcrawler stronger than Spider-Man?

Well actually SM has chucked Hulk around. When fighting Prof. Hulk with Gamma virus, fighting Savage Hulk in Canada and in an arena and in a team up annual. And for the record, did you really think Spiderman, who due to being Marvel's poster boy, whether PIS or not, has beaten/beat around Hulk, Thor and Surfer, the three most iconic heralds of Marvel, and many others near, on and above their level. You really thought he wouldn't atleast have had the chance to harmlessly knock him around?

HulkIsHulk
Originally posted by Damborgson
That sand is super charged with the old power by amped Skaar, hardly a low showing.
Its no use telling them. They will keep bringing it to lowball Hulk and the other characters he's fought.

HulkIsHulk
And as for high piercing resistance:
i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Hulk%20Durability/SavageHulkPiercing22BlackPantherv215.jpg

emu
Originally posted by iceman24567
Some useless skank no doubt Sin pegged the rape out of him sad

Naija boy
Hulk annihilates

Galan007
Why do some of you guys insist on turning this into a physical brawl..?

Nightcrawler has never destroyed an asteroid 2x larger than earth either, yet he succeeded in BFR'ing Hulk nonetheless:

http://i.imgur.com/axVunk4.jpg


Same basic concept potentially applies for Yoda. Again, I believe BFR is his only real chance...but it's a chance nonetheless. /shrug

StiltmanFTW
Maybe it's just me, but I really think that Modern Kurt should've been able to teleport WWH further than that...

Of course, we could say that many other X-Men (Kitty, Xavier) jobbed, too.

Galan007
^ He only 'ported Hulk that far for a reason, though.

Here's the full scene for context:
http://i.imgur.com/Dw1ORdym.jpg http://i.imgur.com/3R0lSvlm.jpg

DarkSaint85
Plus, he could only do that far because WWH was that massive.

When we've shown Yoda moving much larger.

StiltmanFTW
I know, I remember the Blackbird scene thumb up

So while it wasn't his max, it still seems like a low showing for me. Unless we can blame Hulk's "unique physiology" again... his volume alone really shouldn't be a problem.

NNGAH!!! SO BIG!!! facepalm

Darth Thor
Originally posted by HulkIsHulk
Well actually SM has chucked Hulk around. When fighting Prof. Hulk with Gamma virus, fighting Savage Hulk in Canada and in an arena and in a team up annual. And for the record, did you really think Spiderman, who due to being Marvel's poster boy, whether PIS or not, has beaten/beat around Hulk, Thor and Surfer, the three most iconic heralds of Marvel, and many others near, on and above their level. You really thought he wouldn't atleast have had the chance to harmlessly knock him around?


The fights I remember he wasn't throwing him around. Was instead goading Hulk to rush at him, leaping around him and shooting webbing at him.

Damborgson
Originally posted by Naija boy
Hulk annihilates

Naija Boy, about time you posted again. thumb up

StiltmanFTW
His first post this year.

Damborgson
Now we need a Jakethebanck appearance

TethAdamTheRock
what happen to him

h1a8
If Yoda decides to lift Hulk and Bfr him then he wins.
The lightsaber could possibly decapitate Hulk too.
I don't see Hulk being resistant against that.

psycho gundam
Bfr yes

Lightsaber more than likely won't be as effective cause of work against metal doors

h1a8
Originally posted by psycho gundam
Bfr yes

Lightsaber more than likely won't be as effective cause of work against metal doors Work against metal doors?

psycho gundam
Work as in getting through a metal door. Adamantium has better cutting feats

Galan007
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Plus, he could only do that far because WWH was that massive.

When we've shown Yoda moving much larger. Yup. thumb up

Hulk weighs < 1 ton:
http://i.imgur.com/Br0BQDc.png

A mountain weighs... Significantly more(even smaller-sized mountains can weigh tens of millions of tons, according to the Google.) So obviously Hulk's weight doesn't come close to taxing Yoda's TK.

Originally posted by psycho gundam
Bfr yes

Lightsaber more than likely won't be as effective cause of work against metal doors You aren't referring to the opening blast door scene in TPM, are you..? Because Qui-Gon's saber pierced through said doors like a hot knife through butter(literally):
https://i.stack.imgur.com/LLqhv.gif

mmm


But like I said earlier: regardless of who wins, Yoda would likely never get the chance to use his lightsaber... So whether or not it can cut Hulk's hide is kind of moot, imo. srug

psycho gundam
Not enough.

Originally posted by psycho gundam
Nova blasts from Human Torch

Savage

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Hulk%20Durability/th_SavageHulkTemperature15534.jpg http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Hulk%20Durability/th_SavageHulkTemperature16.jpg

Green scar

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Hulk%20Durability/th_WWHTemperature03WWH2.jpg http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Hulk%20Durability/th_WWHTemperature04.jpg Originally posted by psycho gundam
It's never been stated to be plasma but it may create ionized air. The closest thing to a temperature that I remember off hand was when Human torch said he was going to create 2 million degree heat when facing Doom with Surfer's power after the latter said he could easily withstand million degree heat. Even though Doom isn't American it's presumably Fahrenheit but then Human torch never stated it was his hottest temperature nor his nova flame

Originally posted by psycho gundam
It was a claim, true, but he did call them "sun blasts" *shrug*

http://i1099.photobucket.com/albums/g386/psychogundam1/th_2milli_zpsgjl4oxi0.jpg

Originally posted by psycho gundam
To add to this, steel melts at 2,500 F and acetylene which is the standard fuel for cutting torches, even underwater reaches temperatures of 6,300 F, so a confirmed temperature for Human torch is over 300 times hotter than what's hot enough to cut steel like butter

Hydrogen/Qxygen mix as fuel for cutting torches is only 5072 F, more than double what's required to cut steel

psycho gundam
https://youtu.be/pUbXyd-fK8Q?t=113

the high quality video

Galan007
Originally posted by psycho gundam
Not enough. Never said anything about a lightsaber's ability(or lack thereof) to pierce Hulk's hide. Just pointing out that the saber did not struggle to cut those blast doors. thumb up

StiltmanFTW
Originally posted by psycho gundam
https://youtu.be/pUbXyd-fK8Q?t=113

the high quality video

2:45

That moment when you realize it's the only time Force Speed has been used in all movies laughing out loud

psycho gundam
Originally posted by Galan007
Never said anything about a lightsaber's ability(or lack thereof) to pierce Hulk's hide. Just pointing out that the saber did not struggle to cut those blast doors. thumb up I know. I said it
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
2:45

That moment when you realize it's the only time Force Speed has been used in all movies laughing out loud there was also the force jump later in the movie. All those techniques break all tension so....

StiltmanFTW
Force Jump first happened in TESB smile

psycho gundam
ok

StiltmanFTW
Originally posted by psycho gundam
http://tinyurl.com/mwmqzy6

Inedian
Originally posted by Galan007
Why do some of you guys insist on turning this into a physical brawl..?

Nightcrawler has never destroyed an asteroid 2x larger than earth either, yet he succeeded in BFR'ing Hulk nonetheless:

http://i.imgur.com/axVunk4.jpg


Same basic concept potentially applies for Yoda. Again, I believe BFR is his only real chance...but it's a chance nonetheless. /shrug

The point is that in the end WWH wins. Yoda can't stop him, while WWH only needs a moment with him. Even if he succeeds in BFRing him (and he would succeed only the first time, no more and he can't restrain WWH... maybe only BFR him the first time)... but in the end, WWH wins. Yoda can't stop him, not even close actually.

If WWH wants to hurt him and doesn't stop... then it's the end for Yoda. BRF is only a chance for Yoda to escape and never to be found by Hulk again.

DarkSaint85
So we all agree, Yoda BFRs him for the win 10/10 thumb up

Galan007
Originally posted by Inedian
The point is that in the end WWH wins. Yoda can't stop him, while WWH only needs a moment with him. Even if he succeeds in BFRing him (and he would succeed only the first time, no more and he can't restrain WWH... maybe only BFR him the first time)... but in the end, WWH wins. Yoda can't stop him, not even close actually.

If WWH wants to hurt him and doesn't stop... then it's the end for Yoda. BRF is only a chance for Yoda to escape and never to be found by Hulk again. How many battles do you think are happening here?

If Yoda BFR's Hulk once, the fight is over.

Prof. T.C McAbe
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
So we all agree, Yoda BFRs him for the win 10/10 thumb up

Hulk can't fly, so yes. Easy stomp for the green little behemoth.

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