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Superman prime (one million/golden) is said to power the entire Superman line including Superman one million who is said to be immune to magic....

^ I don't think Prime would have gained the immunity to magic, tbh. After all, the Superman lineage inherited that 'ability' when the Superman of the 67th century married the Imp-Queen -- which was thousandS of years before Prime finally came back to earth from his self-imposed exile to the Source Wall. /shrug




Anyway, I always like posting the chronological history of the Superman Dynasty... Adds quite a bit of depth to the story as a whole:
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KT. Prime is featless.

The only feat Prime 1 million has is sitting in the sun and smiling.

i guess you have to ask yourself how powerful have we seen superman after small sun dipping sessions, then ask yourself if he was that powerful after a short stay near the sun, how powerful might he be after, what? thousands of years in there...? featless yes, but that is not the same as saying we have no viable way to at least speculate on a general power level. /shrug

there is a problem with your logic. then we have to ask ourselves, the next question. we know that the more superman is in the sun the more powerful he gets. that is based on the times he sundipped and it was stated. however, the question is, how powerful can he really get? what are the limits until he is fully charged? can he be fully charged or can he be charged to an infinity level of power? is it stated somewhere? if not then we can assume that after 1 day of sundip or several hours, he gets to the full power capacity he is able to achieve. after that , sitting in the sun only reserves that amount of power. dont forget one thing, golden 1 million used a GL ring to crush the already beaten up super sun. not too powerful showing to be honest.

Originally posted by Dareangel
The only feat Prime 1 million has is sitting in the sun and smiling.

He did crush Solaris with the ring. (Something he kept, and would have.)

Major, major will feat, considering what it did fo Kyle.

Also, I believe he used it to "recreate" Lois Lane (In a typically creepy and "wrong" Morrison moment.)

Originally posted by cdtm
He did crush Solaris with the ring. (Something he kept, and would have.)

Major, major will feat, considering what it did fo Kyle.

Also, I believe he used it to "recreate" Lois Lane (In a typically creepy and "wrong" Morrison moment.)

if we get more serious then yes, but then again, needing the GL Ring to crush an already beaten up solaris, is not a major major feat. while solaris was at full power it took green lantern and kal kent to defeat it. after that, solaris was beaten up and exhausted. the fact the golden prime 1 million, the living hype needed a GL ring to defeat such thing.... you get the picture. i see king thor destroying it with easy. i am talking about king thor at the end of his arc right? the one who oneshotted desak in the destroyer armor.

Originally posted by cdtm
He did crush Solaris with the ring. (Something he kept, and would have.)

Major, major will feat, considering what it did fo Kyle.

Also, I believe he used it to "recreate" Lois Lane (In a typically creepy and "wrong" Morrison moment.)

typically creepy? lol

but you're right, given how powerful solaris was, and given the ease with which superman dealt with it, that is indeed an impressive feat of will power.

OWAW Sun-dipped Superman would shitstomp King Thor.

Given the fact that Supes 1Mil is several orders of magnitude more sundipped, this wouldn't even be a fight.

Originally posted by leonidas
typically creepy? lol

but you're right, given how powerful solaris was, and given the ease with which superman dealt with it, that is indeed an impressive feat of will power.

so you are not going to take into account solaris was beaten up and out of power after green lantern and kal kent defeated solaris? it was stated that together they made solaris exort all its powers while being trapped by them.

Originally posted by leonidas
i guess you have to ask yourself how powerful have we seen superman after small sun dipping sessions, then ask yourself if he was that powerful after a short stay near the sun, how powerful might he be after, what? thousands of years in there...? featless yes, but that is not the same as saying we have no viable way to at least speculate on a general power level. /shrug Based on feats Abstract level or beyond

Originally posted by leonidas
i guess you have to ask yourself how powerful have we seen superman after small sun dipping sessions, then ask yourself if he was that powerful after a short stay near the sun, how powerful might he be after, what? thousands of years in there...? featless yes, but that is not the same as saying we have no viable way to at least speculate on a general power level. /shrug Prime was in the heart of the sun for ~15,000 years... And that was after he'd returned from his self-imposed exile with "powers gleaned from the very edge of time and space" (in DC, the edge of time/space = the Source Wall -- so that is evidently where Superman's exotic powers came from.)

As for how much Superman's power can increase from a dip: everyone knows about the OWAW instance, but I think this scene speaks volumes as well:
http://i.imgur.com/3ywegiA.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/1SQnxvd.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/WZDcGfK.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/v6HhukD.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/ALDDtlu.jpg

*Superman goes from getting shit-stomped by Darkseid at his base levels, to effortlessly steamrolling Darkseid as though he were a weak feeb... And that was just by moving within close proximity to the sun for a matter of seconds.

I can't even fathom what a formal sun-dip for 15k years would do for him.

Should be Multiverse/god level
Slightly less than Anti Monitor COIE

I believe Morrison's intent was clear: Superman Prime was intended to be the single most powerful being in DC's history... This is still one of my all-time favorite scenes:
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"Ten billion thinking suns stand silent for a span. Entire constellations pause in their tracks to acknowledge the return of truth's greatest champion..."


Unfortunately, implied power and lip-service only get you so far on battleboards. srug

Shut up, Galan. You're gonna give JBL an aneurysm--on second thought, keep it up.

Originally posted by Galan007
Prime was in the heart of the sun for ~15,000 years... And that was after he'd returned from his self-imposed exile with "powers gleaned from the very edge of time and space" (in DC, the edge of time/space = the Source Wall -- so that is evidently where Superman's exotic powers came from.)

As for how much Superman's power can increase from a dip: everyone knows about the OWAW instance, but I think this scene speaks volumes as well:
http://i.imgur.com/3ywegiA.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/1SQnxvd.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/WZDcGfK.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/v6HhukD.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/ALDDtlu.jpg

*Superman goes from getting shit-stomped by Darkseid at his base levels, to effortlessly steamrolling Darkseid as though he were a weak feeb... And that was just by moving within close proximity to the sun for a matter of seconds.

I can't even fathom what a formal sun-dip for 15k years would do for him.


how powerful can he really get? what are the limits until he is fully charged? can he be fully charged or can he be charged to an infinity level of power? is it stated somewhere? if not then we can assume that after 1 day of sundip or several hours, he gets to the full power capacity he is able to achieve. after that , sitting in the sun only reserves that amount of power

It's also been hinted that he can develop new abilities(see solar flare, H'el, and Wraith)over time that can make him more powerful overall and not just amplify his standard ones. Fifteen thousand years is a lot of learning while having his powers at basically max levels.

Good point.

Just by logic, I think it's clear that Prime should win.

and yet people avoid my point and question here. where is supermans capacity stated? can he get inifnity stronger the more he is exposed to the sun? or maybe he can absorb the sun and get more powerful only till a specific barrier is reached? how long does it take for him to reach such barrier? hours? days? and then being in the sun only maintains that power? where are the evidence that all that time in the sun made him stronger by an amount equal to all the years he spent there?

Originally posted by Dareangel
if we get more serious then yes, but then again, needing the GL Ring to crush an already beaten up solaris, is not a major major feat.

Who said he needed the GL ring to defeat Solaris? It was just an ironic way to turn the "kryptonite" that was intended to kill Superman back on its wielder.

I was about to say King Thor wins, but i dare not. I feel that a certain individual will reach his breaking point and hunt me down for all eternity.

Originally posted by operator616
I was about to say King Thor wins, but i dare not. I feel that a certain individual will reach his breaking point and hunt me down for all eternity. Bet your ass I will!!! sly

And besides, everyone knows regular Superman >>>>>> skyfather level. We're just taking infinity and adding a +1 here.

Originally posted by Galan007
Bet your ass I will!!! sly

Nah, it's not you. ill give you a hint though.

This he-who-shall-not-be-named individual has a particular history in Thor vs Superman threads. He's been on a bashing-streak against me as of late which is why i feared that he might reach his breaking point upon seeing me giving Thor the win here. shifty

Superman Prime is yellow.. Systems rejoice..

IDK but that type of intro is given to a supreme being "God".

Originally posted by operator616
Nah, it's not you. ill give you a hint though.

This he-who-shall-not-be-named individual has a particular history in Thor vs Superman threads. He's been on a bashing-streak against me as of late which is why i feared that he might reach his breaking point upon seeing me giving Thor the win here. shifty

very subtle. i have no idea who you could be talking about.

Yeah. PR is gonna ban you when he finds out you're talking shit about him.

Originally posted by leonidas
very subtle. i have no idea who you could be talking about.

You need to read other threads for context.

His username starts with an "a" and ends with a "d"

Originally posted by Diesldude
Superman Prime is yellow.. Systems rejoice..

IDK but that type of intro is given to a supreme being "God".

The color of fear.

Makes you wonder if he's graduated from dick to something a lot worse.

It's Darktaint. Bashin @$$ muthaphukka!

Originally posted by Dareangel
and yet people avoid my point and question here. where is supermans capacity stated? can he get inifnity stronger the more he is exposed to the sun? or maybe he can absorb the sun and get more powerful only till a specific barrier is reached? how long does it take for him to reach such barrier? hours? days? and then being in the sun only maintains that power? where are the evidence that all that time in the sun made him stronger by an amount equal to all the years he spent there? The more powerful he becomes the more capacity he gets /shrug

Originally posted by operator616
His username starts with an "a" and ends with a "d" http://i.imgur.com/FqTC0g3.gif

Originally posted by TethAdamTheRock
The more powerful he becomes the more capacity he gets /shrug

what? so basically you are saying he can get infinity more powerful without any limit? where is it stated?

Originally posted by Cogito
Who said he needed the GL ring to defeat Solaris? It was just an ironic way to turn the "kryptonite" that was intended to kill Superman back on its wielder.

then why did he use the GL ring? it makes no sense. he is awaken and know solaris is the bad guy. however he chooses to get the GL ring in order to crush it and not doing it all by himself. why would he do that? i dont see a relation to the kryptonite that was fired at him, your explanation doest many sense to me... please explain

This is true, Ive always hated operator, from the very start.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
This is true, Ive always hated operator, from the very start.

http://imgur.com/6mJP0i2.jpg

Originally posted by operator616
You need to read other threads for context.

His username starts with an "a" and ends with a "d"

https://cdn.meme.am/cache/instances/folder467/500x/28909467.jpg

Prime easily. I think Superman 1M would be a better challange. Prime is featless, mostly yes but he still powers a whole dynasty and is seen as the most powerful member there.

And now Abhi, look at operator the heretic and "FASS"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

I don't get how Superman P1M is interesting in a debate as there is 0 feats to debate with and just speculations.

He would be more interesting to write.

Kal Kent would probably lose

SP1M effortlessly

Prime.