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glads for a heavy majority i'd think. skrull might be able to pull some force field shenanigans for a couple wins.

Yes, Skrull would need to fight really smart...

Originally posted by leonidas
glads for a heavy majority i'd think. skrull might be able to pull some force field shenanigans for a couple wins.

Gladiator 100/10.

The Skrull gets turned into a smear in less than a microsecond.

Originally posted by leonidas
glads for a heavy majority i'd think. skrull might be able to pull some force field shenanigans for a couple wins.
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Yes, Skrull would need to fight really smart...

Well, he kind of fights smart, no? And he has good defences against what Gladiator might resort to.

Heat vision for one, can be absorbed:
http://i.imgur.com/DCOX0Ln.jpg
http://imgur.com/a/fxhjO#2

His forcefield has withstood Thor's hammer:
http://i.imgur.com/5q7DrjP.jpg
Surfer's blasts:
http://i.imgur.com/AbR9cD7.png

And he can just simply open a forcefield in Gladiator's brain:
http://i.imgur.com/IZtKyvQ.jpg

He's smart enough to avoid an extended slugfest. And even so, he is quite capable:
http://i.imgur.com/q7YqXXP.gif

There's also Anti-Matter blasts:
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/2/24026/1389986-ss2.jpg

There's also hypnosis:
http://i.imgur.com/UluQsRO.jpg
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http://i.imgur.com/gdjTqsb.jpg
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http://puu.sh/hj0JD/0505d822af.jpg

Do you see Gladiator overcoming all of these for a majority?

he does fight pretty smart, at least in his more recent portrayals. still, his invisibility wouldn't be an issue i don't think because of glads' enhanced senses. it's def possible he could absorb the heat vision, though i've not seen him absorb that type of focused blast before. his force field would def keep him in this for a while but i think glads would power through it eventually and even if ss used it offensively i'd think glads could handle it given some of his durability feats--especially in slugfest style matches.

if glads is fighting smart--using his speed--i don't really know if the hypnosis would work. it could i suppose, if he could manage to get glads into the right position to use it but i don't think that would happen very often. and the anti-matter stuff? never seen it used against anyone so i don't really know how that would affect gladiator. pretty sure that is a long forgotten power that was never raised again so tough to gauge its effectiveness.

i think ss could make a fight of it--especially if he goes for the kill with his forcefield--but other than that i think it's simple a matter of time before glads speed and strength overwhelm skrull for a solid majority.

Originally posted by leonidas
he does fight pretty smart, at least in his more recent portrayals. still, his invisibility wouldn't be an issue i don't think because of glads' enhanced senses. it's def possible he could absorb the heat vision, though i've not seen him absorb that type of focused blast before. his force field would def keep him in this for a while but i think glads would power through it eventually and even if ss used it offensively i'd think glads could handle it given some of his durability feats--especially in slugfest style matches.

if glads is fighting smart--using his speed--i don't really know if the hypnosis would work. it could i suppose, if he could manage to get glads into the right position to use it but i don't think that would happen very often. and the anti-matter stuff? never seen it used against anyone so i don't really know how that would affect gladiator. pretty sure that is a long forgotten power that was never raised again so tough to gauge its effectiveness.

i think ss could make a fight of it--especially if he goes for the kill with his forcefield--but other than that i think it's simple a matter of time before glads speed and strength overwhelm skrull for a solid majority. I agree about invisibility, in the basic sense, though I don't recall offhand Kallark using his eyes with infrared, other than seeing long distances/HV. I know he has very good hearing, so that will help even if Super Skrull goes invisible, but still. Super Skrull has been multiple times being stated to be capable of absorbing ridiculous amount of heat, so I wouldn't bet for HV hurting him. Even if it starts hurting, he could simply block it with his shield, so there's that.

Gladiator has been contained by Sue's invisible shield momentarily :
http://i.imgur.com/NR9sK0T.jpg
And in the previously posted Thor scan, he defends himself with the shield from hammer strikes, and then counter-attacks, which is a tactic I could see working against Gladiator:
https://static4.comicvine.com/uploads/original/14/145849/5800987-rco015.jpg

I don't even know on this forum when we're ignoring speed and when we don't. By all accounts though, Super-Skrull is no slouch.

Against a speedster:
https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/14/145849/5806669-rco021.jpg
Who is capable of this:
http://i.imgur.com/gtMDXrL.png
Or this:
https://static1.comicvine.com/uploads/original/14/145849/5800946-rco014_1468928810.jpg

The shield brain-squeeze is a tactic that, if not outright KO Gladiator, does enough damage that coupled with other attacks would lend him a win. Or he just does a brain-squeeze coupled with hypnosis .

I'm not quite sure what would happen a majority of time, but Super-Skrull has the heat vision covered, the physical part at least momentarily shielded/contained before he can move on to hypnosis/brain squeeze/combo between them. So I guess it's a matter of how many times Gladiator gets to put on the physical hurt before Super Skrull does his thing, and I'm leaning towards a <5/10.

Originally posted by Phil
And he can just simply open a forcefield in Gladiator's brain:
http://i.imgur.com/IZtKyvQ.jpg I just want to know how Glads could realistically overcome something like this..?

Originally posted by Galan007
I just want to know how Glads could realistically overcome something like this..?

You might as well give Skrull an advantage against all Heralds that doesn't have an insane healing factor.

Yeah, it's a one-shot insta-win move, but can't see it working on everyone. Glads' durability should be too much?

His skull innards should be pretty tough considering they didn't turn to mush when Bolt whispered directly into his ear.

Originally posted by Galan007
I just want to know how Glads could realistically overcome something like this..?

Power through it.

I don't see it as a realistic alternative against people with gladiator's durability.

If someone tried that with say Superman or Thor they would probably be in pain but still keep going. Like we saw with Black Adam.

Originally posted by Galan007
I just want to know how Glads could realistically overcome something like this..? Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Yeah, it's a one-shot insta-win move, but can't see it working on everyone. Glads' durability should be too much?
Even if it's not a one-shot, it should immobilize/weaken him enough to beat the shit out of/hypnotize.

Originally posted by krisblaze
If someone tried that with say Superman or Thor they would probably be in pain but still keep going. Like we saw with Black Adam. Black Adam was unable to keep going, he was on the floor on his knees.

Between hypnosis, bubble in brains and all the rest...

I mean, he's shapeshifted out of the way of a charging Surfer:
http://i.imgur.com/MGlj2QV.png

His FF, against Genis:
http://i.imgur.com/RUjQmyU.png

And he can stretch pretty far, pretty quickly:
http://i.imgur.com/JJoU3un.jpg

HV from Glads? Great. Not only can he absorb unlimited heat, but it would actually heal him:

https://static2.comicvine.com/uploads/original/14/145849/5800924-rco010_1462192080.jpg

https://static5.comicvine.com/uploads/original/14/145849/5800925-rco017_1469463793.jpg

And he's taken blasts from Surfer:
https://static3.comicvine.com/uploads/original/14/145849/5801016-rco017_1468780204.jpg

Surfer, Moondragon and Genis combined (sure, it KOed him, but still):
https://static4.comicvine.com/uploads/original/14/145849/5801017-rco018_1468780204.jpg

And of course, he actually combines his powers at once, unlike say, characters like Martian Manhunter.

It was a forcefield the size of a football field opening up in his brain though.

Originally posted by krisblaze
It was a forcefield the size of a football field opening up in his brain though. Yeah, and it's Black Adam either way, not Glads .

I think this actually depends on whether or not SS gets damaged by feedback from his force fields collapsing the way IW sometimes does. I think Glads is too durable for SS to actually crush his brain outright and I see the FF shattering if he tries but I DO think it'd be something that could seriously daze/damage Glads. So if SS is undamaged by the feedback he's going to have a really good opening to follow up with more attacks until Glads is put down... but if he's dealing with the shock to his system that Sue sometimes gets it's going basically balance out Glad's recovery time and I don't see SS being able to actually win strait up against a heavy hitter like Gladiator.

Originally posted by darthgoober
I think this actually depends on whether or not SS gets damaged by feedback from his force fields collapsing the way IW sometimes does. I think Glads is too durable for SS to actually crush his brain outright and I see the FF shattering if he tries but I DO think it'd be something that could seriously daze/damage Glads. So if SS is undamaged by the feedback he's going to have a really good opening to follow up with more attacks until Glads is put down... but if he's dealing with the shock to his system that Sue sometimes gets it's going basically balance out Glad's recovery time and I don't see SS being able to actually win strait up against a heavy hitter like Gladiator.

He has advantages that Sue doesn't, however.

She has the durability of a normal human woman - he has Reed/Thing durability, at least.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
He has advantages that Sue doesn't, however.

She has the durability of a normal human woman - he has Reed/Thing durability, at least.
Oh I know, that's why I said IF. The feedback isn't like normal damage(more like a shock strait to the nervous system) so I don't know if his durability would make it any easier for him to deal with. If it hits him like it does her, I'd give the win to Glads.

Does SS's durability stack with thing and reed's attributes? or does he only have the durability of whichever power(s) he is using more of at the moment?

Can he become stretchy rock?

Originally posted by CosmicComet
Does SS's durability stack with thing and reed's attributes? or does he only have the durability of whichever power(s) he is using more of at the moment?

Can he become stretchy rock? Yes.
http://i.imgur.com/AbR9cD7.png

Also, +invisibility:
http://i.imgur.com/1brcP4g.jpg

He can become stretchy invisible rock etc.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
He can become stretchy invisible rock etc.

Stretchy invisible rock that is on fire.

And he still gets raped by Sue vin

Invisible fire. Heh.

I always liked SuperSkrull, that the combined powers of the FF made a real nifty powerset.

With all the mention of his Thing-like durability and forcefields, I don't think this was said: he can absorb blows by becoming soft and stretchy. The more I see the argument for SS, the more I think he has a good shot at winning. He has excellent defenses against blunt force, and heat. Super Skrull's toughest challenge will be Gladiator's Supermanesque level of power and toughness.

I say this can go either way, depending on SuperSkrull's tactics and if that rattles Gladiator's confidence.

Ethan Edwards, a super-skrull that happens to be yet another superman copy, was stated to be more powerful than Kl'rt.

I know that has been stated that SS> FF (in raw power), but Sue dont beat him?

If we look by feats im not sure if he really is stronger than Sue making force fields or johnny in fire.

For the fight Gladiator has a massive Speed advantage.

Well, he did have that cool anti-matter blast... an ability that Johnny has never shown.

Also hypnotism too

Man, he'd beat Alpha Flight in 3-4 panels.

He couldn't even beat Sasquatch when they fought

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Ethan Edwards, a super-skrull that happens to be yet another superman copy, was stated to be more powerful than Kl'rt.
By the same guy that created the Super Skrull too

y'all convinced me this would be closer than i initially thought. i do think the ff in the brain would def hurt, but could skrull follow it up fast enough to put glads down? i dunno. he has some pretty solid durability feats. if glads uses his speed effectively not sure ss could even use his ff in that way against him.

i'd still give glads a majority here, but it wouldn't be as heavy as i thought. i'd still say 6-7/10 though.

Would SS fire even hurt Gladiator?

No.

Glads literally laughed off Johnny's full Nova blast.

Said blast was powerful enough to level a whole city block, no less!!!!

Glads stomps no contest

Since I think a calm weakened Grey Hulk isn't more powerful than Gladiator, this is most def a stomp in Glads favor...

https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/15/150206/2960055-4069484503-Hulkv.jpg
https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/15/150206/2960062-5671093822-Hulkv.jpg
https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/15/150206/2960063-6797640878-Hulkv.jpg
https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/15/150206/2960064-9381979742-Hulkv.jpg
https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/15/150206/2960065-1056513803-Hulkv.jpg

Or Surfer beating his face off...

https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11111/111118818/3134408-5939220832-silve.jpg
https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11111/111118818/3134409-0656273160-silve.jpg

When it comes to top end heralds, he doesn't do well and Glads is top end.

^ I noticed no forcefield use in those fights, nor using Reed's rubberiness to absorb blows. Also, this is the first time I've seen mention of some sort of limit to Super Skrull's power usage. Was this ever mentioned in other fights, or was this a bit of PIS to give Hulk a better showing?

Regardless, SSkrull is not beating SSurfer.

He said he could absorb unlimited amounts of heat in later scans (see Phildo).

SMH at Carver using scans that are older than my grandma.

the gray hulk scans aren't that old and phil did post some....ancient scans originally. that hulk showing is one of the reasons i've always had trouble giving ss his due. he's jobbed a lot in his career. in his most recent showings though he has been shown to be more effective with his powers, hence my wavering on my initial stomp conclusion. i do think glads IS capable of stomping him a couple times, but if we assume ss uses his powers to their most effective showings he could def make this a fight.