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Could DOS Doomdsay have made Brit bleed the way he did Superman?

http://ifanboy.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/Superman-The-Man-of-Steel-19-1993.jpg

http://onlynerdsallowed.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/1182114-death_of_superman_tpb_1611.jpg

Or would he just get tossed around and take the pounding?

http://www.planetebd.com/dynamicImages/album/page/large/13/70/album-page-large-13706.jpg

Looking to find this guy's limit.

pile

Yeah, Doomsday does absolutely nothing to him and eventually gives up.

^^^Neat!
Thats hardcore.

I've only read a few of his appearances. That scene Riv posted is the best feat I know. What else has Brit done?

Question is would Superman have taken the same abuse Brit took without being damaged?

The *most* DD could hope for is a KO, imo. I really don't see him causing visible damage to Brit, however.

Originally posted by Galan007
It's hard to say who the 'weakest' character is who could kill/incapacitate Brit through physicality alone. I mean, the only being who was able to KO Brit for any real length of time, was Omnipotus -- same being who ragdolled pretty much every noteworthy hero on Invincible-Earth simultaneously:
http://i.imgur.com/iejmN4yl.jpg


That said, Omnipotus is also the single most powerful being in the Invincible-verse -- and one of the most powerful beings in all of Image comics:
http://i.imgur.com/Y2CZrVFl.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/BYtGARvl.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/P2RgCRb.jpg http://i.imgur.com/M5JRgHa.jpg


...So Brit being incapacitated by him certainly isn't a low showing.



Take from that what you will.

@Galan: doesn't mean that's the level needed to hurt him.

It's like me tanking punches from all the 5 year olds I meet - then getting KOed by Mike Tyson in his prime.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
@Galan: doesn't mean that's the level needed to hurt him.

It's like me tanking punches from all the 5 year olds I meet - then getting KOed by Mike Tyson in his prime. he also tanked getting his soul siphoned by a god that had already destroyed the city that he was in and was getting more powerful with each person that he killed (kid thor (who is immortal) got drained of his soul and died).

Yeah but the main issue is, I can fight 5 year olds.

Pretty sure DoS Doomsday would rip him apart.

^^^pretty sure wrong, from what Galan posted.

Thanks, Galan.

Originally posted by riv6672
^^^pretty sure wrong, from what Galan posted.
Brit has never gone up against a being DoS Doomsday's level. DoS Doomsday actually killed/comatosed DC's elite herald who was going all out (this is after crushing the Justice League).

DoS Doomsday took out legit planetary level beings. What's Omnipotus done on panel that's so impressive?

^^^Obviously nothing you think too highly of.

Aaaanyway, as with most cross company threads that wont have to direct comparisons to draw on (both characters doing the exact same thing/fighting the exact same opponents) we must draw our own conclusions.
So far, this is the conclusion i've drawn.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Yeah but the main issue is, I can fight 5 year olds.

Not if they punch you in your balls good friend.

Originally posted by Stoic
Not if they punch you in your balls good friend.

Asian testicles are microscopic, so that 5yo kid would need to have Bullseye's level of accuracy in order to connect.

DS id asian? Never knew that.

I think that Brit would take a beating for a while till DD would also adapt and overcome his invulnerability, which me thinks he can do, just not on the fly like HP DD.

Originally posted by Prof. T.C McAbe
I think that Brit would take a beating for a while till DD would also adapt and overcome his invulnerability, which me thinks he can do, just not on the fly like HP DD. and he would adapt how?

Originally posted by deathslash
and he would adapt how?
http://i.imgur.com/cdBXdpq.jpg

Originally posted by Prof. T.C McAbe
http://i.imgur.com/cdBXdpq.jpg does he have any showings of adapting to an opponent being physically immune to his attacks?

http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o97/juggernaut666666/9-4.jpg

AND:

http://i.imgur.com/4ttPD3e.jpg

^^^So no examples, then.
Phasing, stretching, and looking good in a bustier atent what Brit does.

He MIGHT pull off thst last one.

Hey DS, AKA, TBC, and to not go in what i just realized is, to me, a useless direction, my question isnt 'can DD adapt to Brit'.
Don't know, dont care.
My question is, 'can Brit take the beating DD gave Supes'.

Originally posted by riv6672
Hey DS, AKA, TBC, and to not go in what i just realized is, to me, a useless direction, my question isnt 'can DD adapt to Brit'.
Don't know, dont care.
My question is, 'can Brit take the beating DD gave Supes'.

Ok to answer your question you still have to consider the adaptin abilities of DD. In a prolonged fight, like the one against Superman, DD would have time to adapt (coating on his claws that ovecomes invulnerability) and kill Brit. However if you take his adapting out of the equation I would say that Brit would survive the beating. He would just be a punching doll, gets koed but stays alive.

Originally posted by Prof. T.C McAbe
Ok to answer your question....I would say that Brit would survive the beating. He would just be a punching doll, gets koed but stays alive.
^^^Thats all i'm asking.

EDIT
Just realized you're the one that instigated the tangent. Thanks for answering the topic question.

I think we *can* take spontaneous adaptation off the table, tbh.

Doomsday didn't start adapting on the fly until after the events of DoS. Granted he possessed dynamic strength(he continuously grew stronger as the battle progressed), but I still don't think he could *kill* Brit. Slap him all over the place? Definitely. KO him? Most likely. Kill him, though? Very doubtful, imo.

Originally posted by Galan007
I think we *can* take spontaneous adaptation off the table, tbh.

Doomsday didn't start adapting on the fly until after the events of DoS. Granted he possessed dynamic strength(he continuously grew stronger as the battle progressed), but I still don't think he could *kill* Brit. Slap him all over the place? Definitely. KO him? Most likely. Kill him, though? Very doubtful, imo.
The DD who fought the Guardian was pre-DoS DD IIRC and he adapted though not instantly, it took him a while. So I think it would be a valid point.

I'm talking exclusively about DoS Doomsday -- he never displayed the ability to adapt on the fly. Even though we found out in later issues that he *can* insta-adapt, it still doesn't mean he *did* in that specific arc. With this in mind, I see no reason to credit DD with an ability *he* never displayed -- that's akin to giving Professor Hulk the feats of WBH, imo. Now if this were H/P, DD-Wars, or OWAW Doomsday, I would obviously agree with you 100%.


I've mentioned this before, but an in-universe reason why we didn't see DD adapting on the fly during DoS(other than the fact that he would've killed Supes with very little effort) is that he had been buried underground for ~250,000 years; devoid of any sunlight... And since solar energy is Doomsday's primary source of power, I'd imagine that when he first emerged during the DoS arc, he was still very weakened(realitive to himself, of course.) After all, Bertron stated that DD could 'only' store solar energy for "a millennia" if need be, and he was buried for tenS of thousandS of yearS longer than that -- so it likely would have taken a considerable amount of time for his energy reserves to be completely replenished by earth's sunlight. From an in-universe POV, I think it's logical to assume this is why he wasn't pulling abilities out of his ass... Although, that *could* very well be why he kept getting more and more powerful as the arc progressed -- he was continuously absorbing sunlight/recharging the entire time. mmm

...Just my 2 cents.

And a good 2 cents it is, thank you.

Like i said, i dont care about the adapting, its not what i'm adking about.

The answer to your question is definitely 'yes, Brit takes the beating handed out to Superman in DoS and survives it.'

People are having difficulty letting go of the Superman/invulnerability thing, as though "invulnerability" was/is the thing that defined Superman. Doomsday broke Superman's 'invulnerability', ergo Doomsday MUST be able to break another character with incredible invulnerability ie Brit.

But the thing is, invulnerability IS Brit's thing. Superman is about way more than just invulnerability. I wouldn't even say that if you randomly surveyed 100 people and said 'name one of Superman's main powers', that too many people would pick 'he's invulnerable.'

Invulnerability is ALL Brit does, and he does it as well as any other character in comics. Sure he has been knocked out, but I don't remember any times where he was pierced, cut, bruised or otherwise damaged from any sort of physical or energy-based attack. And as much as I love Doomsday and think he is totally badass, I don't see him putting a scratch on Brit in the DOS scenario, even if he does knock him out.

Originally posted by wuleecat
The answer to your question is definitely 'yes, Brit takes the beating handed out to Superman in DoS and survives it.'

People are having difficulty letting go of the Superman/invulnerability thing, as though "invulnerability" was/is the thing that defined Superman. Doomsday broke Superman's 'invulnerability', ergo Doomsday MUST be able to break another character with incredible invulnerability ie Brit.

But the thing is, invulnerability IS Brit's thing. Superman is about way more than just invulnerability. I wouldn't even say that if you randomly surveyed 100 people and said 'name one of Superman's main powers', that too many people would pick 'he's invulnerable.'

Invulnerability is ALL Brit does, and he does it as well as any other character in comics. Sure he has been knocked out, but I don't remember any times where he was pierced, cut, bruised or otherwise damaged from any sort of physical or energy-based attack. And as much as I love Doomsday and think he is totally badass, I don't see him putting a scratch on Brit in the DOS scenario, even if he does knock him out.


By that logic, Thing is stronger than Superman or Quicksilver is faster than Superman.

Brit could have greater durability, I'm still waiting to see feats(only read some of his appearances, all early ones), but that's faulty logic.

I think you're taking his analogy a bit literally.
It obviously doesnt apply to every character. And every power.

Originally posted by riv6672
I think you're taking his analogy a bit literally.
It obviously doesnt apply to every character. And every power.

Then what do you think he meant here?

Originally posted by wuleecat
Invulnerability is ALL Brit does, and he does it as well as any other character in comics. Sure he has been knocked out, but I don't remember any times where he was pierced, cut, bruised or otherwise damaged from any sort of physical or energy-based attack. And as much as I love Doomsday and think he is totally badass, I don't see him putting a scratch on Brit in the DOS scenario, even if he does knock him out.

Seems like arguing Brit is more durable because invulnerability is all he has to me, when he brings up that's all he has then says even if DD gets the KO, he won't scratch Brit.

He was just making a point.

Originally posted by Galan007
I'm talking exclusively about DoS Doomsday -- he never displayed the ability to adapt on the fly. Even though we found out in later issues that he *can* insta-adapt, it still doesn't mean he *did* in that specific arc. With this in mind, I see no reason to credit DD with an ability *he* never displayed -- that's akin to giving Professor Hulk the feats of WBH, imo. Now if this were H/P, DD-Wars, or OWAW Doomsday, I would obviously agree with you 100%.


I've mentioned this before, but an in-universe reason why we didn't see DD adapting on the fly during DoS(other than the fact that he would've killed Supes with very little effort) is that he had been buried underground for ~250,000 years; devoid of any sunlight... And since solar energy is Doomsday's primary source of power, I'd imagine that when he first emerged during the DoS arc, he was still very weakened(realitive to himself, of course.) After all, Bertron stated that DD could 'only' store solar energy for "a millennia" if need be, and he was buried for tenS of thousandS of yearS longer than that -- so it likely would have taken a considerable amount of time for his energy reserves to be completely replenished by earth's sunlight. From an in-universe POV, I think it's logical to assume this is why he wasn't pulling abilities out of his ass... Although, that *could* very well be why he kept getting more and more powerful as the arc progressed -- he was continuously absorbing sunlight/recharging the entire time. mmm

...Just my 2 cents.
Better watch out, people seemed to take great offence when I first pointed out him being deprived of solar energy for thousands of years and therefor logically weaker in DOS than he was in the GL one shot a while back lol

Originally posted by darthgoober
Better watch out, people seemed to take great offence when I first pointed out him being deprived of solar energy for thousands of years and therefor logically weaker in DOS than he was in the GL one shot a while back lol

Actually, people were addressing the point you were trying to make,that DD was Kryptonian.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Actually, people were addressing the point you were trying to make,that DD was Kryptonian.
No I acknowledged that he wasn't once someone(I think it was you) posted some scans showing that he wasn't. That was like halfway through the discussion. After that I was just pointing out that he was still a solar power being.

See, from our convo after you posted the stuff...

Originally posted by darthgoober
His being a solar powered being doesn't necessarily have to come from his being Kryptonian though. It's established on panel independantly from his place of origin. I just interpreted it as him basically being Kryptonian because it was the most obvious explanation.

Pretty much. That was towards the end of the thread. The rest of the thread was you saying that he grew bony portrusions the more he was exposed to sunlight.

Nobody argued that he didn't get sustenance from the sun. We all acknowledged it.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Pretty much. That was towards the end of the thread. The rest of the thread was you saying that he grew bony portrusions the more he was exposed to sunlight.

Nobody argued that he didn't get sustenance from the sun. We all acknowledged it.
Yes but even after I said that you still insisted...

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
That's pretty much all we need.

As Supes then incredulously asks Wavey, how did he come back, Wavey said that his body regenerates itself and comes back STRONGER than before. This is said in the panel immediately after Wavey finishes telling his story of how DD came to Earth.

That means, well....when he came back to life, he was stronger than before.

I'm not saying that anyone was denying that he was solar powered. Just that it wasn't seen as being a logical factor in his comparative performances. Everyone was insistent that he was even more powerful than he was in the one shot. My point the whole time was that there was good reason to be skeptical about that and not credit him with feats/abilities from flashbacks that took place before DOS.

This shit again? The lengths some people go to discredit feats are just laughable.

You would know. Thank you for posting.

Originally posted by abhilegend
This shit again? The lengths some people go to discredit feats are just laughable.

Anyone have a citation for his sunlight absorption ability? Honest question

Bertron said it. He derives sustenance from the sun.

Thanks. Hunter/prey

DOS.

http://i1099.photobucket.com/albums/g386/psychogundam1/dd_zps2hqyebnf.jpg

Lol, Omnipitus is a spin off Galactus, more overpowered, and looks like Skeletor! Not exactly original!

Originally posted by psycho gundam
http://i1099.photobucket.com/albums/g386/psychogundam1/dd_zps2hqyebnf.jpg
Guess it was necessary!