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*ROUND 1*

-OWAW Superman (unhinged)-
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VS.


-Superboy Prime (SCW)-
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*ROUND 2*

-OWAW Superman (sun-dipped)-
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VS.


-Superboy Prime (Guardian-amped)-
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*Fights take place in Metropolis on a clear/sunny day.


How goes this? mmm

Great thread.

Prime wins first
OWAW (sun dipped) stomps in second.


Planet will be destroyed in the process.

I'm interested in your opinion Galan

Superman in both.

Superman gave Superboy a fight. OWAW should win a big majority.
Sundipped stomps.

Prime in both.

Originally posted by Galan007
1). I'm still not sure. Superman treated trans-beings like fodder in this mental state and was stated to be able to stop Doomsday . Since it was such a short appearance, it's basically a issue long >> trans tier showing, and the only ceiling he seemed to have is Imperiex -- which doesn't really help in this thread.

Superboy Prime treated the GLC like fodder, has laughed off at high-herald team-buster Black Adam , has casually overpowered a gang of Earth heroes once sunlight hit him . But then again, he has also been temporarily held in place by a single all-out Guardian . Kon/Bart are psychological stuff, so I'm not going to get into that.

I'd say Superman's trashing of fodder > Prime's trashing of fodder on average, and Superman was implied to be doing it for days. And I don't think that Superman would have problems with any of his SBP's off days showings, while able to replicate all of his high .

Even if raw power is arguable, if anything, I'd give Superman the edge because he is a smarter/better fighter, and just as ruthless .

2). Sundipped Supes, definitely. He overpowered Brainiac+Imperiex.

He burned through Superman easily and beat him afterwards...

https://m.imgur.com/n5eAzTJ
https://m.imgur.com/ruBvlDR

i actually think classic superman would win both rds. the first would be very close but it is the mental aspect that would be the difference. prime was...a child mentally. superman would simply will himself to a victory, even if prime WAS a bit more powerful. which is certainly arguable.

the second fight would be much the same imo. again the mental part is huge for me. sun dipped superman was also likely more powerful. i think any time the the power gap is closed though, the true superman will win. he's just too mentally strong not to.

But remember that Prime was so powerful that he was rearranging planets like they were chess pieces. Moving them around faster than light.

This is one of the greatest strength feats of all time. He's definitely many times stronger than regular Superman.

The other two are
Superman moving against the Imperiex force
And
WBH feat.

Prime was also said to be faster than Flash and this was coming from Flash himself. He literally have every advantage here.

Originally posted by h1a8
He's definitely many times stronger than regular Superman. Prime is definitely stronger that your 'average' Superman -- heck, Supes himself admitted as much during LO3W:

http://i.imgur.com/8Lxeg0q.jpg


...But the unhinged/OWAW Superman I'm using in this thread is also a FAAAAR cry from your 'average' version of Supes. /shrug

SMH...so his durability increase? Prime shot clean through him and took him out after that in a single hit. Don't think there is anything that could change the outcome of what happened.

Superman was nowhere koed. In fact TT SBP hit him several times and he was still not koed.

Superman's own HV can blast through him. It's not that impressive.

Originally posted by carver9
SMH...so his durability increase? Prime shot clean through him and took him out after that in a single hit. Don't think there is anything that could change the outcome of what happened.

If you weren't in denial, you wouldn't be making this argument. I and others have posted scans proving his durability fluctuates with his mindset. You've been shown this several times.

You eejits broke the chain. This whole thread could have been pages and pages of Carver pulling his hair out and you lot just ignoring him. But nooo.

Also, not sure about 1, but my gut says Superman in both. I'm never going to see Prime as anything more than an uninhibited Superman.

Originally posted by carver9
SMH...so his durability increase? Indeed.

ALL of his stats increase in accordance with his mindset.

Shut it.

Only his strength. That's why he breaks his hands every time he punches in sundipped mode.

http://i.imgur.com/3OWaYTn.gif

Originally posted by Galan007
Indeed.

ALL of his stats increase in accordance with his mindset.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Shut it.

Only his strength. That's why he breaks his hands every time he punches in sundipped mode.

If only there would be precedent for Superman's mind controlling his powers...

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etc.

If only...

Superman.

He simply forgot his Silver Age power potential due to being raised to fear his powers as a normal human post crisis.

Originally posted by h1a8
But remember that Prime was so powerful that he was rearranging planets like they were chess pieces. Moving them around faster than light.

This is one of the greatest strength feats of all time. He's definitely many times stronger than regular Superman.

Moving around planets one by one is far from the greatest strength feat of all time. Hell PC Superboy alone destroys that theory.

https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11112/111120921/3175672-superman+feat+1.jpg

Prime stomps in both.

Prime stomps in both. Superman is no stronger in OWAW than he is sleeping in his bed. Unless people think there is a normal and a OWAW Spiderman when he beat firelord when it was time to close out the plot. The superman that prime stomped is no different than the kmc owaw superman. Fact. Straight from the horses mouth. Besides, why didnt he go all OWAW on prime???? 😉

Because he killed probes, as they aren't 'alive'.

Where have you been at the boxing thread?

Originally posted by JBL
Prime stomps in both. Superman is no stronger in OWAW than he is sleeping in his bed. Unless people think there is a normal and a OWAW Spiderman when he beat firelord when it was time to close out the plot. The superman that prime stomped is no different than the kmc owaw superman. Fact. Straight from the horses mouth. Besides, why didnt he go all OWAW on prime???? 😉
Lol you know nothing of Superman power mechanics. He fluctuates his strength and durability.

Stop feeding the troll, people.

Originally posted by Phil
If only... Indeed.

http://i.imgur.com/b2bsz5D.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/nx17vpR.jpg

...If only...

Superman in both.

Prime is just basically Superman not controlling his power.

Prime could be a little bit stronger as characters from the Prime universe are supposed to be more powerful than their other counterparts.

But Superman is more experienced with the use of his powers.

Good fight on both cases I guess.

Originally posted by Galan007
Indeed.

http://i.imgur.com/b2bsz5D.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/nx17vpR.jpg

...If only... Do you people not know what that means??? Learn how to comprehend things. Superman was worried about others, his worrying mindset hindered his ability to win. His partner, Doomsday, had no such worries, that's what mongul had to teach the self righteous dummy. He had to become like doomsday and not give a damn and destroy. He got no stronger, he just went for the kill instead of acting like a punk. It's all there to see and read. In other words, if you want to win, then fight like your partner and stop being a birch. He did. I know people want to claim he got stronger, but that's a flat out lie. He has to Sun amp to get stronger.

Originally posted by Rao Kal El
Superman in both.

Prime is just basically Superman not controlling his power.

Prime could be a little bit stronger as characters from the Prime universe are supposed to be more powerful than their other counterparts.

But Superman is more experienced with the use of his powers.

Good fight on both cases I guess. I'd say Prime is definitely stronger than your average Supes -- aside from the fact that Prime is a bonafide Silver Age Kryptonian, Superman himself has admitted that Prime is >. But as mentioned above: when Superman stops holding back and fully cuts loose, he becomes MUCH more powerful(it has been explicitly shown/stated on panel numerous times over the years that his mindset *directly* affects/influences his power-levels.)

So yeah, I think the specified mindset here would, at the very least, balance out the regular power-discrepancy that normally exists between them.

Originally posted by JBL
Do you people not know what that means??? Learn how to comprehend things. Superman was worried about others, his worrying mindset hindered his ability to win. His partner, Doomsday, had no such worries, that's what mongul had to teach the self righteous dummy. He had to become like doomsday and not give a damn and destroy. He got no stronger, he just went for the kill instead of acting like a punk. It's all there to see and read. In other words, if you want to win, then fight like your partner and stop being a birch. He did. I know people want to claim he got stronger, but that's a flat out lie. He has to Sun amp to get stronger.


https://media.giphy.com/media/20vHbYhl8VWbm/giphy.gif

Originally posted by Galan007
I'd say Prime is definitely stronger than your average Supes -- aside from the fact that Prime is a bonafide Silver Age Kryptonian, Superman himself has admitted that Prime is >. But as mentioned above: when Superman stops holding back and fully cuts loose, he becomes MUCH more powerful(it has been explicitly shown/stated on panel numerous times over the years that his mindset *directly* affects/influences his power-levels.)

So yeah, I think the specified mindset here would, at the very least, balance out the regular power-discrepancy that normally exists between them.

Yes I will agree with that. Maybe I didn't explain myself very well. But yes I will agree with this idea.

I also think that Prime is stronger than the average superman. Superman will require to "let go" in order to match Prime one on one.

Originally posted by JBL
Do you people not know what that means??? Learn how to comprehend things. Superman was worried about others, his worrying mindset hindered his ability to win. His partner, Doomsday, had no such worries, that's what mongul had to teach the self righteous dummy. He had to become like doomsday and not give a damn and destroy. He got no stronger, he just went for the kill instead of acting like a punk. It's all there to see and read. In other words, if you want to win, then fight like your partner and stop being a birch. He did. I know people want to claim he got stronger, but that's a flat out lie. He has to Sun amp to get stronger.

Your meltdown amuses me.

Originally posted by Delta1938
Your meltdown amuses me. Not my words, just the writers who by the way is amused at how you people confuse yourselves because you cannot understand the plot of the story. Answer this question that one of the writers told me to ask you all... Who is stronger, your OWAW superman or superman that Sun amps for 30 seconds?? Answer the question.

That's like asking who is stronger, a guy who's fully fed or a starving psycho.....

I think someone is having a meltdown

Originally posted by JBL
Not my words, just the writers who by the way is amused at how you people confuse yourselves because you cannot understand the plot of the story. Answer this question that one of the writers told me to ask you all... Who is stronger, your OWAW superman or superman that Sun amps for 30 seconds?? Answer the question.

No, you're having a meltdown. You make the dumbest arguments to convince yourself. You're the one with reading comprehension issues.

And why are you bringing up a red herring?

Originally posted by JBL
Not my words, just the writers who by the way is amused at how you people confuse yourselves because you cannot understand the plot of the story. Answer this question that one of the writers told me to ask you all... Who is stronger, your OWAW superman or superman that Sun amps for 30 seconds?? Answer the question.
Not those lies again...
Tell this "writer" to come here and ask himself...

Did Superman hold back the entire time against Prime? Why bring backup when he faced prime a second time if he had the power to stop him?

Originally posted by carver9
Did Superman hold back the entire time against Prime? Why bring backup when he faced prime a second time if he had the power to stop him? Superman being able to drop so-called mental blocks is a myth slash lie. If that were the case he could have done that with prime. He didn't because he cannot. He lost to prime period. If he could have gotten any stronger, WHY DIDN'T HE??? That's not the only example either.

Originally posted by carver9
Did Superman hold back the entire time against Prime? Why bring backup when he faced prime a second time if he had the power to stop him? For a point of reference: Superman has only dropped all(key word) of his self-imposed mental blocks and fully(key word) cut loose TWICE in his entire ~80 year character history...across hundredS of different titles...across thousandS of different appearances. The first time was against Doomsday during DoS; the second time was against the forces of Imperiex during OWAW.

Suffice to say: writers rarely ever go there because they simply don't *need* to. They can typically invoke varying degrees of PIS and whatnot to save the day if Superman alone cannot(which is a rarity in itself) -- that's what we saw during Lo3W when Supes summoned the entire LoSH to help fight Prime, for example...


Comics aren't written with your battleboard standards in mind, lol.

So all writers follow the aspect of Superman mental blocks? You're basically saying every Superman writer follow the same mentality when it comes to this hidden ability. That doesn't even make sense. I'm sure the person who wrote Prime vs Superman didn't even think about these mental blocks. If he did, he wouldn't have had two Supermen grabbing Prime, slamming him into a field of kryptonite, slamming him into a red star and crash landing him on a planet filled with kryptonite. Why go to those lengths when Superman can easily unleash these mental blocks and beat on Prime himself. Wouldn't that have been the best thing to do anyways? Prime did far more damage than all of the probes combined.

If Superman had the power to take Prime out, he would have done it when he brought a gang of heros but nope, more people died,while he was right there watching.

It's hardly a "hidden ability", when NUMEROUS writers across NUMEROUS titles have explicitly mentioned it, lol.

You're just getting butthurt now... Calm down.

You didn't read my post but whatever.

Originally posted by carver9
You didn't read my post but whatever.

Yes he did, you just don't have a better counter.

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JBL, stop lying. Having imaginary friends is fine and all, but pretending they give you any kind of authority is just plain silly. Opinions are one thing, but directly contradicting comics? Not okay.

Originally posted by -Pr-
Yes he did, you just don't have a better counter.

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JBL, stop lying. Having imaginary friends is fine and all, but pretending they give you any kind of authority is just plain silly. Opinions are one thing, but directly contradicting comics? Not okay.

His post is easy to counter but me and Galan don't get anywhere in debates which is the reason I left it alone.

Why is so hard to understand the concept? If you were a constant reader of those comics the idead will be easy understandable.

But since you base your idea on a few showings that is why is so dificult for you to undesrtand.

Please understand this

When DC gave John Byrne the rein over Superman. John Byrne made Superman's powers to be psionic based, this was completely on purpose by Byrne, so future writers could play with Superman's power level and make it fluctuate as much as they want so it adjusted with their stories.

Grab the Byrne relaunch and notice how Byrne do actually touches this idea during his run. Writers could have used this idea as it was place in there by the Byrne relaunch.

And there is also a John Byrne interview in which He talks about the psionic powers and his complete intention of others being able to play with Superman's power level with out the need to explain why he looked stronger on one issue and weaker in the next issue.

I have read the interview, but I don't recall where I did read it. I don't remember if it was on a man of steel compilation or if it was on a wizard magazine. But anyhow, this is the reason why Byrne said Superman's powers were psionic in nature and why you see Byrne and other writers used the psionic nature of powers.

Originally posted by carver9
His post is easy to counter but me and Galan don't get anywhere in debates which is the reason I left it alone. https://media.giphy.com/media/PudZiAbQDUEik/giphy-downsized-large.gif

Originally posted by carver9
His post is easy to counter but me and Galan don't get anywhere in debates which is the reason I left it alone.

Ha.

Carver debating Galan:

UHhxDjP0QwA

Lol true

Originally posted by -Pr-
Ha.

Set up.

Originally posted by -Pr-
Yes he did, you just don't have a better counter.

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JBL, stop lying. Having imaginary friends is fine and all, but pretending they give you any kind of authority is just plain silly. Opinions are one thing, but directly contradicting comics? Not okay. Imaginary friends??? Lying?? Debate over. Don't tell me who my friends are. Dispute what I say about superman I don't care. Leave my friends out of this.

The two people arguing the hardest against this have both ignored my scans showing Superman noting he's weaker than before in the Post-FLASHPOINT universe BEFORE merging back with his split energy and me asking if he wasn't weakened by the split why was he weaker there, AND are ignoring scans in this very thread showing Superman's durability fluctuating, something they have to ignore to continue their disproven arguments.

Originally posted by JBL
Imaginary friends??? Lying?? Debate over. Don't tell me who my friends are. Dispute what I say about superman I don't care. Leave my friends out of this.

One: you would have to have friends to begin with for him to tell you who they are. That's why he said"imaginary friends." Two: clearly you care given how many Superman topics you have meltdowns in even if they have nothing to do with Marvel.

I wonder if JBL's friend is Grant Morrison

Originally posted by JBL
Imaginary friends??? Lying?? Debate over. Don't tell me who my friends are. Dispute what I say about superman I don't care. Leave my friends out of this.

Don't tell me what to do.

My friend Stan Lee who I hang out constantly told me that Superman will basically beat every marvel character and I told him and show him what JBL thinks of Marvel and Superman and he started cracking up. He told me "that guy is just butthurt"

True story

Originally posted by Rao Kal El
My friend Stan Lee who I hang out constantly told me that Superman will basically beat every marvel character and I told him and show him what JBL thinks of Marvel and Superman and he started cracking up. He told me "that guy is just butthurt"

True story
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Writer opinions are meaningless, except if they write the comic, another writer might disagree and write a different outcome or "recton" it. Acting like a writers opinion outside of a comic means something, or counts as a fact just because he is a writer, especially in crossover debates, is the most retarded thing, truth be told.
So OWAW Superman powered by the Loeb force wins.

JBL, my best friend Byrne says you are having a meltdown and is lhao because of it right now.

Originally posted by Adam Grimes
JBL, my best friend Byrne says you are having a meltdown and is lhao because of it right now.
Ok I tell you who the writer friend of JBL is. We all see him as a friend, it's Zack!

Originally posted by Galan007
For a point of reference: Superman has only dropped all(key word) of his self-imposed mental blocks and fully(key word) cut loose TWICE in his entire ~80 year character history...across hundredS of different titles...across thousandS of different appearances. The first time was against Doomsday during DoS; the second time was against the forces of Imperiex during OWAW.

Suffice to say: writers rarely ever go there because they simply don't *need* to...

You missed a 3rd case, unless you have some interesting definitions and/or qualifications to add:

Wonder Woman #219, Volume 2.

doh

Originally posted by bluewaterrider
You missed a 3rd case, unless you have some interesting definitions and/or qualifications to add:

Wonder Woman #219, Volume 2.

If he had she'd be dead.

Originally posted by bluewaterrider
You missed a 3rd case, unless you have some interesting definitions and/or qualifications to add:

Wonder Woman #219, Volume 2.

A brainwashed Superman isn't one that's in his right mind and consciously, not to mention effectively, dropping his mental blocks.

It isn't the same thing.

Originally posted by -Pr-
A brainwashed Superman isn't one that's in his right mind and consciously, not to mention effectively, dropping his mental blocks.

It isn't the same thing.

If Muhammed Ali thought he was fighting Foreman when he was really up against Fraiser, I bet you he'd have problems. Because they're different kinds of fighters with a different style and set of skills.

If it were the same thing as Galan referred to as you so desperately want it to be, this would mean Wonder Woman>DOS Doomsday/Imperiex Probes. Good luck trying to argue that.

Also, Kal broke Diana's wrist easily.

That implies a pretty big physical disadvantage, and a lucid Superman who knew it was merely Diana and not Doomaday could take advantage of that.

But he DIDN'T know it was Diana. He never would have imagine he could break Doomsdays bones by simply grabbing them. Instead, he was winding up with everything he had, slugging it out.

Which gives Diana more openings to use her defensive skills.

Originally posted by Delta1938
If it were the same thing as Galan referred to as you so desperately want it to be, this would mean Wonder Woman>DOS Doomsday/Imperiex Probes. Good luck trying to argue that.

Don't need to. I'm responding to what Galan wrote as he wrote it:

Originally posted by Galan007
For a point of reference: Superman has only dropped all(key word) of his self-imposed mental blocks and fully(key word) cut loose TWICE in his entire ~80 year character history...across hundredS of different titles...across thousandS of different appearances. The first time was against Doomsday during DoS; the second time was against the forces of Imperiex during OWAW.

Suffice to say: writers rarely ever go there because they simply don't *need* to. They can typically invoke varying degrees of PIS and whatnot to save the day if Superman alone cannot(which is a rarity in itself) -- that's what we saw during Lo3W when Supes summoned the entire LoSH to help fight Prime, for example...


Comics aren't written with your battleboard standards in mind, lol.

Interestingly, his last sentence in his quote illustrates why even Pr's statement isn't a counter. Greg Rucka, DC writer, wrote Superman with every governor off, all self-imposed mental blocks dropped, and fully cutting loose in Wonder Woman #219, perhaps later on he changed. Perhaps later on, even a month or a week later, he decided in some book it should be retconned. Perhaps some other writer did. But in the mind of Greg Rucka, Superman wasn't holding anything back, and Galan's statement as he wrote it, is wrong.

Originally posted by bluewaterrider
Don't need to. I'm responding to what Galan wrote as he wrote it:



Interestingly, his last sentence in his quote illustrates why even Pr's statement isn't a counter. Greg Rucka, DC writer, wrote Superman with every governor off, all self-imposed mental blocks dropped, and fully cutting loose in Wonder Woman #219, perhaps later on he changed. Perhaps later on, even a month or a week later, he decided in some book it should be retconned. Perhaps some other writer did. But in the mind of Greg Rucka, Superman wasn't holding anything back, and Galan's statement as he wrote it, is wrong.

Nowhere in the comic did it show the mental blocks were dropped. Your interview quote only has one thing that MIGHT be saying it.

Superman went from hurting his hands punching Doomsday and accomplishing nothing to beating Doomsday to death quickly while injured and fatigued.

Superman went from unable to damage Imperiex Probes with his fists and needing to combine heat vision and freeze breath to crack them, to casually busting all the way through with EITHER his heat vision or his fists.

You're arguing he made the same leap in WW #219. That's retarded, unless you think WW is superior to those two.....which you'll fail to support.

Also, interviews are inadmissible anyway.

When people talk out of ignorance and hate it is just a waste of time trying to reasoning with them.

It is funny Blue thinks Diana >>>>>>> Doomsday or Imperiex Probes 😂😂😂😂😂

Also Greg Rucka will be wrong if he thinks that Diana is >>>>>>> Doomsday or Imperiex Probes.

Maybe we should made a thread of Diana vs Imperiex Probes or Doomsday and watch Carver and Blue trying to defend Diana 😂😂😂😂😂

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Also, interviews are inadmissible anyway.

That minor detail too.

But who cares about rules?

Originally posted by cdtm
That minor detail too.

But who cares about rules?

Pak said Hulk >>>>>>>>>>> Galactus

You noob!!!

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Also, interviews are inadmissible anyway.

This might be relevant if I were trying to argue character A beats character B in a KMC versus thread. Here, though, I was merely responding to what Galan wrote as he wrote it. Period. And, again, as he wrote it, he's wrong.

Well no.

It's inadmissible as proof to back your claim up.

You claim he dropped all his mental blocks etc.

Rpoof? Interview said so. But if the proof is inadmissible....

Interview didn't even definitively say that's what happened.

I always found it funny how the Diana fight is used, when it showed Superman as far superior to her. Clark was visualizing 8 foot 700 pounds beast , yet still:

a). manhandled her to the sun, and she was desperate to pull out the kryptonite ring
b). KOd her in a single punch
c). broke her wrist by squeezing

It was like an adult fighting a toddler.

She needed to resort to trickery and stealth , and had absolutely no chance straight up.

Yeah but she summoned birds.

That alone tells you Supey was fighting the same way he did against the Imperiex probes.

I guess they also don't notice she couldn't KO him despite slamming her bracelets into his ears with a cheap shot. Same writer had Batman hurting her with the same cheap shot attack, except he doesn't have super strength or her bracelts.

Originally posted by Delta1938
Similar issues with using WW #175 to argue for Diana.

Fights like a retard.

Is still close to breaking her bracelets and killing her in a few strikes.

Somehow shows that a fight between them is competitive.

The thought process is quite something.

I don't know what's killing me faster. If the leukemia or the posts I am reading in here!

Originally posted by Prof. T.C McAbe
Also he noted that he wanted to make her suffer, which means he didn't want to go straight for the kill (ASAP). Something he didn't do once his blocks dropped against the Probes. This is the huge difference.

That doesn't count despite being by the same writer because Blue didn't read the comic so wasn't prepared for it. Much like Wonder Woman saying she was BARELY holding back doesn't count because it goes against their preconceived and unsubstantiated beliefs.

Originally posted by Prof. T.C McAbe
Also he noted that he wanted to make her suffer, which means he didn't want to go straight for the kill (ASAP). Something he didn't do once his blocks dropped against the Probes. This is the huge difference.

Yep

If he wanted to kill her he could have done one of the following:

1.- Punch her into the sun
2.- Punch her with a double hand fist letting everything go on a single punch
3.- Make another hole in Diana's chest like he did to the probes.

http://i738.photobucket.com/albums/xx28/PhilosophiaKMC/leagueofoneww5.jpg
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Phil, you left out the part where she cheap shot kicked him, you Wonder Woman fanboy.

Originally posted by Rao Kal El
I don't know what's killing me faster. If the leukemia or the posts I am reading in here!

Ah, man ...

You did say you were sick a couple weeks ago, too...



This is one time I REALLY hope you're making a mistranslated joke, Salsa...

Diana receives this punch,


https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/fd/01/1d/fd011d8ad3d234043703ed822dba9887.jpg




what happens to her?

Originally posted by bluewaterrider
Ah, man ...

You did say you were sick a couple weeks ago, too...



This is one time I REALLY hope you're making a mistranslated joke, Salsa...

He's not.

Originally posted by bluewaterrider
Ah, man ...

You did say you were sick a couple weeks ago, too...



This is one time I REALLY hope you're making a mistranslated joke, Salsa...

No joke. I have kryptonite in my veins. But fighting

Originally posted by Delta1938
Even if you take Diana's "Two more blows like that and he'll kill me!!" statement as hyperbole, it's quite clear how above her he is if she's reacting like that when hit even when protected by her bracelets. Let's show one where he actually breaks the bracelets:

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11112/111120921/3228195-superman+feat+21.jpg
https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11112/111120921/3228196-superman+feat+22.jpg

https://comicnewbies.files.wordpress.com/2016/01/superman-vs-doomsday-injustice-gods-among-us-1.jpg

That is pretty much like it would end and that fast too.

Also on that fight he killed Uncle Sam with a GL ring casually

We also have a non-serious Superman fighting an armed-to-the-teeth serious Wonder Woman.


Speed:

http://i738.photobucket.com/albums/xx28/PhilosophiaKMC/dianaspeedblitzft1.jpg
http://i738.photobucket.com/albums/xx28/PhilosophiaKMC/dianaspeedblitzft2.jpg

Strength:
http://oi738.photobucket.com/albums/xx28/PhilosophiaKMC/wwstrengthft3.jpg

Blue already has an excuse for Diana looking inferior while ignoring how casual Superman is about it. IIRC, he also takes the "I'll kill you" thing as definitive.

Originally posted by Rao Kal El
I don't know what's killing me faster. If the leukemia or the posts I am reading in here!


Let's give you and others a paragraph or two that might lead to helping you combat both; I'm not about to let convention stop me from sharing some encouragement when the need arises.

These 2 submissions, following the dotted lines, should fairly well explain themselves:

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Involve people in meaningful projects.

Meaningful projects have a healing influence on people.
However, what is meaningful to a manager may be meaningless to a subordinate. Projects take on meaning when people are involved in the planning and thinking processes.

We all need to be engaged in a good cause.
Without such projects, life loses its meaning; in fact, the lifespan is short for people who retire, looking for a tensionless state.
Life is sustained by tension between where we are and where we want to be -- some goal worth struggling for.


-- Stephen Covey. Principle-Centered Leadership.
Chapter 11. Thirty Methods of Influence. Item 28, page 128. Simon & Schuster publishers, 1991.

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https://www.bodybuilding.com/content/clea-trained-her-way-through-chemo.html