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Is there anything more Sad and Empty then people who raise something as Banal and Callous as Politics to the Level of a Religious Belief in their life?

This seems to happens most with people on the Left. Aka The Liberals and Leftist Progressives. The Alt-Left if you will.

There are plenty of issues and stories where this is apparent with them.

Does anyone else have any thoughts or feelings on this subject?



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You are a broken record, man.

The "Right" is guilty of foisting their unjustified religious beliefs onto other people through their politics, like banning stem cell research and the struggle that homosexuals have had to get equal rights, etc.

So it's not just the "Left" that likes to fuse irrationality with politics.

he does make an interesting point how some people ascribe to political ideals in an almost cultish fashion

If this isn't cult-like devotion....

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http://youtu.be/bTZPOtKlYF8

Basically: Trump is a "chosen one" of god; who god works through and if you go against the "chosen one" god will curse you and your children and their children etc., cos reasons

Originally posted by Robtard
If this isn't cult-like devotion....

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http://youtu.be/bTZPOtKlYF8

Basically: Trump is a "chosen one" of god; who god works through and if you go against the "chosen one" god will curse you and your children and their children etc., cos reasons

Aren't you one of those PEOPLE that say using "Youtube News Vids" are invalid because they are on YOUTUBE?

Hypocrite much there Robbie?

Or should I call you Father Robbie seeing seeing as how you are one of those Leftist Religious Types this thread is discussing.

nah. Seems more like it is just the leftist way of taking things out of context and skewing what is said to just back up their empy beliefs to stem up their crappy view points.

You are a Liar Robbie, but I forgive you.

Originally posted by Robtard
If this isn't cult-like devotion....

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http://youtu.be/bTZPOtKlYF8

Basically: Trump is a "chosen one" of god; who god works through and if you go against the "chosen one" god will curse you and your children and their children etc., cos reasons

Damn, that is some seriously disturbing shit. And these people vote. Why don't they move to North Korea if they want to believe in some divine douche of a leader.

In which Flyboy's thread backfires spectacularly.

Originally posted by Flyattractor
Is there anything more Sad and Empty then people who raise something as Banal and Callous as Politics to the Level of a Religious Belief in their life?

This seems to happens most with people on the Left. Aka The Liberals and Leftist Progressives. The Alt-Left if you will.

There are plenty of issues and stories where this is apparent with them.

Does anyone else have any thoughts or feelings on this subject?



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They're all talk.

Seriously, that's all it takes to be a leftist.

Conservatives earn their stripes by actually doing shit. Taking care of their family, refusing handouts, working hard at what they do, following a set of bedrock principles.

Are there conservatives who don't make the cut? You bet. But you can actually tell a good conservative from a bad conservative because a set of standards exists to judge them against. A set of standards that takes discipline, effort, and self sacrifice.

What does it even take to be a good liberal? Spout off about some women's studies course you're taking? Talking smack about Republicans? Going on a "symbolic" hunger strike, with snacks?

Leftist's are a joke.

Originally posted by Beniboybling
In which Flyboy's thread backfires spectacularly.
Well if anyone knows about backfires.....

Originally posted by cdtm
They're all talk.

Seriously, that's all it takes to be a leftist.

Conservatives earn their stripes by actually doing shit. Taking care of their family, refusing handouts, working hard at what they do, following a set of bedrock principles.

Are there conservatives who don't make the cut? You bet. But you can actually tell a good conservative from a bad conservative because a set of standards exists to judge them against. A set of standards that takes discipline, effort, and self sacrifice.

What does it even take to be a good liberal? Spout off about some women's studies course you're taking? Talking smack about Republicans? Going on a "symbolic" hunger strike, with snacks?

Leftist's are a joke. What do you need to be a good righter? Live in the countryside and be the offspring of cousins, like fly.

And oversimplify things of course.

Originally posted by Adam Grimes
What do you need to be a good righter? Live in the countryside and be the offspring of cousins, like fly.

And oversimplify things of course.

Oversimplfy, nothing.

Here's just one issue that proves the left as a joke:

You come from a broken home. Your father is just some guy got your mother pregnant, while your mother never really wanted you and keeps you around just to spite your father. She spends most of her time drinking.

The liberal stance to this scenerio would be to pity the offspring. And then go bang their girlfriend without a condom.

The conservative would look at this and wish someone would have listened to him before they made their unwanted child. But he was told to shut up and keep his nose out of other peoples sex life.

This "simplistic" view you'll no doubt accuse me of having is a very real consequence of liberal politics. You can either condone sexual freedom and permissiveness. No shaming people, no standards, nobody else's business.

Or you can try and prevent unwanted pregnancies. Which means sex education and contraceptives, absolutely. I am NOT a conservative, nor am I a practicing religious believer.

But it will also need some set of social standards that frowns on casual sex. Because sex = kids.

Conservatives may not go about ending unwanted pregnancy the best way, but it sure bests the way most "leftists" approach it (Which is basically sex, drugs, and rock and roll. And leaving the mother of their child behind to pursue other interests.)

Bottom line, there's absolutely nothing about leftists approach to the world that involves giving up anything to see their vision through. Hating on, evangelicals, bigots, parents, the rich, the privileged, ect is EASY! Just get mad, and rant about shit.

And deflect any and all blame onto someone else, like Conservatives who live in the South with their cousin parents, far away from your home of Chicago or New York or whichever city a leftist happens to **** their 9th girlfriend in while high and creating their 11th unwanted kid (That they totally will beat their girlfriend into aborting, if they decide to stick around long enough.)

The point of my post was to show you how stupid you sound sticking to your stereotype of the left, by doing the same with the right. Ugh, maybe I should go slower.

So iyo everyone in the left is like you mentioned in your elaborated, totally veridic, story? Yeah, totally not oversimplifying sport.

Leftist Translation: It is Ok for Grimey to use Negative Stereotypes to describe those He/She/It disagrees with but not for those people he/she/it disagrees with to do.

Its called DOUBLE STANDARDS!

Its one of the Leftist Commandments to do this.

Originally posted by Adam Grimes
The point of my post was to show you how stupid you sound sticking to your stereotype of the left, by doing the same with the right. Ugh, maybe I should go slower.

So iyo everyone in the left is like you mentioned in your elaborated, totally veridic, story? Yeah, totally not oversimplifying sport.

Oh no, not everyone that votes Democrat is like that. Just progressive's/leftist's.

The kind that rant on about how bad selfish conservatives are, while living pretty selfish lives themselves.

Take, for example, a union rep. I actually respect union heads that go out of their way to represent the interests of their workers. I knew men like this.

I also knew union reps that sat on their butts and just ranted about Bush.

The one's that drive me crazy, though, are the sorts that live a good life while complaining about those who don't. They'll complain about the evil businessman who outright says they're just in it for themselves, yet what is their side doing about it?

I mean, aren't there liberal millionaires? Billionaires? Why not shame THEM?

Go after the people that claim to care and hoard their money, instead of the side that tells you they don't care and just want to hoard their money. THAT's my biggest beef with the supposed "bleeding hearts", they spend more time ranting about "team evil" then they do about the rich guys in their own party simply not doing enough for the disadvantaged.

Fly's ploy to turn the Religion Forum into a narrow-minded mainstream politics forum.

I see right through him.

Religion and politics are supposed to be separate.

Our vice president is a nutjob... funny how he thinks that religious folks helped abolish slavery, when nothing could be further from the truth. The Bible endorses slavery, so the South was absolutely on the winning side of that theological debate...

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Yes, "Pray for our country. Because that does absolutely nothing, and while you are busy with such a useless act we will continue to corrode civil liberties and build up a Christian Theocracy. God Bless America."

I think you have misinterpreted the real meaning for the saying of "Separation of Church & State".

Originally posted by Patient_Leech
Damn, that is some seriously disturbing shit. And these people vote. Why don't they move to North Korea if they want to believe in some divine douche of a leader.

Indeed, attributing President Trump to be "God's Chosen One" is making politics be your religion and she seems to legitimately believe this. The bit about god cursing family blood lines if they go against Trump, that's just a combination of fear-mongering (which these people thrive on) "You better believe what I believe or something bad will happen to you," and idiocy.

Originally posted by Robtard
Indeed, attributing President Trump to be "God's Chosen One" is making politics be your religion and she seems to legitimately believe this. The bit about god cursing family blood lines if they go against Trump, that's just a combination of fear-mongering (which these people thrive on) "You better believe what I believe or something bad will happen to you," and idiocy.

This is disturbing. The fear mongering is fairly common in Religion as well. She definitely has a few screws loose.

Originally posted by Flyattractor
I think you have misinterpreted the real meaning for the saying of "Separation of Church & State".

Where is the misinterpretation?

Politicians shouldn't be talking about God and encouraging people to "pray." It's wrong. Yet in this country for some reason you can't even possibly expect to make a decent campaign unless you openly invoke "God" and prayer, and you'd better not let it get out that you're an atheist. Your campaign would never get off the ground.

Originally posted by Patient_Leech
Where is the misinterpretation?

Politicians shouldn't be talking about God and encouraging people to "pray." It's wrong. Yet in this country for some reason you can't even possibly expect to make a decent campaign unless you openly invoke "God" and prayer, and you'd better not let it get out that you're an atheist. Your campaign would never get off the ground.

No its not. The rule is that the State cannot choose or Enforce a particular religion over another. Not does it ban people with Religious Beliefs from participating in government. The rule is you keep the State OUT of the Church, not the Church out of the State! Stop listening to your Fanatical Leftist College Professors and actually go out an Learn for yourself how things really work.

Originally posted by Flyattractor
The rule is you keep the State OUT of the Church, not the Church out of the State!

lol, then how is that a separation of Church and State?

Originally posted by Patient_Leech
lol, then how is that a separation of Church and State?

Wow. So in your opinion the people of the U.S can either do one or the other, not both then? Or to put it another way, That statement you just gave kind of proves the point of this thread. You want the STATE to have Power over EVERYTHING! Every aspect of our lives. You really missed the point of how the U.S was founded and the people that fought against tyranny to found it.

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Originally posted by Patient_Leech
Where is the misinterpretation?

Politicians shouldn't be talking about God and encouraging people to "pray." It's wrong. Yet in this country for some reason you can't even possibly expect to make a decent campaign unless you openly invoke "God" and prayer, and you'd better not let it get out that you're an atheist. Your campaign would never get off the ground.

No sure if they "they shouldn't" as a blanket, as they're free to be religious, but there is a fine line.

Jefferson's statement was in regards to the First Amendment: "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof"

Which means that no religion will hold power or ground in government and in turn the government will not dictate religious freedom, meaning you could be a Jew or Hindu and not fear the government bearing down on you for your beliefs, as the US is supposed to not be a theocracy (these crazies in American should just move to Iran or something).

To add to that, we have the religious test clause: "no federal office holder or employee can be required to adhere to or accept any particular religion or doctrine as a prerequisite to holding a federal office or a federal government job". Further showing that religion has no sway in government.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_Religious_Test_Clause

The lady saying Trump is a "chosen" one of God is crazy. Sounds like she is saying Trump is some kind of prophet.

The silver lining is that if that were somehow true he's still a vastly better prophet than Muhammad ever was. But then that's not really an accomplishment. It's like me saying I'm a better person than Jeffrey Dahmer.

Originally posted by Flyattractor
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I'm fully aware that the general interpretation is that there isn't supposed to be an official establishment of State religion. Because then there would be a theocracy and not democracy. But far too many politicians are wacky fundamentalist Christians (like Pence) and (like Robtard said) it's a fine line, because Christian/Biblical doctrines start creeping into policy, for example the desire for Christians to have the Ten Commandments posted, prayer in schools, etc..

Christian fundamentalists stopped one of the most promising lines of research for medical treatment: stem cells. It was purely for some unsubstantiated "belief" that the soul enters the zygote at conception. It's crap, and it is affecting the country negatively.

So whatever the loose interpretation of Church and State is, I'm saying it's far too loose.

But that also goes the other way when others like Enviromental Leftist Wackos start calling for people to be imprisoned or worse because they choose NOT to go with those beliefs. Its a Double Edged Sword.

Originally posted by Flyattractor
But Leftist also Leftist Leftist Leftist Leftist when Leftist Wackos start calling for people to be Leftist or Leftist because Leftist choose NOT to go with Leftist beliefs. Its a Leftist Edged Leftist.

^ That's all I ever see when you write, Fly. lol

Originally posted by Surtur
The lady saying Trump is a "chosen" one of God is crazy. Sounds like she is saying Trump is some kind of prophet.

The silver lining is that if that were somehow true he's still a vastly better prophet than Muhammad ever was. But then that's not really an accomplishment. It's like me saying I'm a better person than Jeffrey Dahmer.



While you started out alright, it's like you can't help yourself no matter the topic; you find some way to make it an anti-Islam rant. Did your girlfriend at one time dump you for a Muslim man? Be honest for once in your life, Surt.

Originally posted by Patient_Leech
^ That's all I ever see when you write, Fly. lol

Not surprising to see that you have to put everything thru the "Lefty Filter" before you read stuff.

Says alot about you.

I would pray for your soul...but meh...why bother.

Originally posted by Patient_Leech


So whatever the loose interpretation of Church and State is, I'm saying it's far too loose.


There's no real loose interpretation, Jefferson was saying that in regards to the 1st Amendment, which is interpreted as is. The Far Christian Right though, they like to interpret thinks differently and America is apparently supposed to be a Christian Theocracy, more specifically, their special view of Christianity.

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Some interestig points about how The Left ue politics to push their "Religion".