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Classic Ikaris.
New 52 WW, no amps.
No prep.
No BFR.

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this is sort of her type of fight. ik is pretty tough, but she has answers for most of what he can do. i'd take ww for a solid majority here.

Romita's art loses to any opponent.

WW 10/10

I know who would win this but I enjoy both of these characters so much that I don't want to say it.

Ikaris kills the dishwasher that refuses to do her only job.

Originally posted by leonidas
this is sort of her type of fight. ik is pretty tough, but she has answers for most of what he can do. i'd take ww for a solid majority here.
How's her TP resistance?

Ike Harris wins
























Yeah right...

Originally posted by riv6672
How's her TP resistance?

it's always been good, but his tp isn't exactly a go to for him, nor would i consider him a real threat in terms of tp. unless he's done something much more recent that i've not seen. /shrug

Originally posted by emu
Romita's art loses to any opponent.

WW 10/10



While his art is hated by many, I still loved Neil Gaiman's Eternals.

Originally posted by leonidas
it's always been good, but his tp isn't exactly a go to for him, nor would i consider him a real threat in terms of tp. unless he's done something much more recent that i've not seen. /shrug
Just going by the one other Ikaris thread i've seen here (i may have even started it) where his TP was a major factor in giving him the win.

I've never heard of WW being TP resistant, so i figured this would make up for her likely superior physical stats.

Physically, he's a great threat, too.

Even modern Namor w/ back-up couldn't beat Ikaris... who was mind-controlled and holding back at the time.

^^^didnt know.

Here's a few scans re: Ikaris' TP.
I personally am not picking a winner, just putting stuff out there that was imortant in another thread, so shouldnt be ignored.
Feats have a hanit of enbing and flowing for some lesser used characters from thread to thread.
Originally posted by Martian_mind
He has shown that he is capable of feats beyond that description, however, one which is explicitly mind control.

http://imgur.com/WtKYuMF
http://imgur.com/YQMqxmG

He's erased someone's memory as well.

http://imgur.com/J8Z0kEy

Now, I have no idea what Cap's feats of TP resistance are, so I'm simply wondering if he has any to suggest he could resist either of those.

Originally posted by riv6672
^^^didnt know.

Well, you do know.

And since you're in the mood for scans, here they are:

Originally posted by One_Angry_Scot

Mind Controlled Prime Eternal Ikaris vs Namor, Captain America and Jimmy Hammond

This for me is one of those fights of Ikaris's where I am on edge constantly. Ikaris here is probably regarded the most

highly as he has been in a while. On this occasion Ikaris was placed under mind control by the Kree and was sent to kill

the All-New Invaders. Another thing we know from this fight is that for most of it Ikaris trying his best not to kill

them despite being under mind control. We also learn that Captain America had stitched a plan. To hold Ikaris in place

until Bucky and the others arrived. He never informed Namor of this though as to make sure he was at full fighting force.

And we learn from Cap himself, that Ikaris is too powerful for anyone in the group.

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The battle only ends after control of Ikaris is severed tahnks to Captain America. Who is to say what could have happened

had that not happened? Ikaris most certainly was beginning to unleash his full power. And who knows where that would have

went.

From The All-New Invaders #3 and The All-New Invaders #5

Neat, Stilt.

Originally posted by riv6672
Neat, Stilt.
Also keep in mind that the HT he was fighting wasn't Johnny Storm it was Jim Hammond. Jim Hammond is a ridiculously powerful fire user, puts Johnny Storm to shame and Ikaris was just laughing off his attacks.

Ikaris wins after a good fight.

Originally posted by zopzop
Also keep in mind that the HT he was fighting wasn't Johnny Storm it was Jim Hammond. Jim Hammond is a ridiculously powerful fire user, puts Johnny Storm to shame and Ikaris was just laughing off his attacks.

Ikaris wins after a good fight.

When did that happen? All comparisons I remember have had Johnny as the superior in raw power.

Originally posted by zopzop
Also keep in mind that the HT he was fighting wasn't Johnny Storm it was Jim Hammond. Jim Hammond is a ridiculously powerful fire user, puts Johnny Storm to shame and Ikaris was just laughing off his attacks.

Ikaris wins after a good fight.



Especially considering his recent showing with Thanos. Beating Sentry, etc, etc...

Originally posted by Delta1938
When did that happen? All comparisons I remember have had Johnny as the superior in raw power.
It was always true. Jim Hammond is God Tier Human Torch. Here's his respect thread by Namorsubby.

ww is FAR beyond namor level in every way. i'm not sure how many tp resist feats she has gathered since the reboot though. pre52 she has some really good resistance feats, though at times her resistance was slightly inconsistent. generally anyone that affected her was pretty uber tp-wise so i still don't see tp doing anything here. certainly not turning the tide. i'd need to see him controlling someone in diana's class before that would ever fly.

physically she is stronger and faster and her weapons and bracers are pretty well made to take him out and defend her. ik has had some....less than great showings in the past as well. who is the biggest name he's ever dropped?

one battle against namor and torch isn't close to enough to suggest he beats ww, whose feats are among the best in comics for heralds. /shrug

Originally posted by riv6672
How's her TP resistance?

New 52?

If this was pre, she was the only character immune to Max Lord. Something about the lasso of truth protecting her.

No idea about Nu52 though..

it was the eyes of pallas that made her immune (mostly) to tp but the 'upgrade' wasn't consistent all the time. she has some tp resist feats both before and after, but the eyes are cited as the reason she was immune to max lord's attempts at control for one thing and she has a few other feats along that line as well. really though, it generally takes an uber tp to get through to her. at least it did. tbh i can't see her going backwards in this area given the feats she's wracked up. she must have gone up against some tp's since the reboot, i just can't recall any offhand.

and here is the official 'upgrade' when athena pallas bound her sight with diana's:

https://imgur.com/a/157EF

https://imgur.com/a/Saqwg

the fight against the gorgon when she blinded herself to win was one of the best comic book fights i have ever read. i posted it in the ww respect thread. she has some truly spectacular battles over the years.

^^^thats pre 52 though yeah? Going by the outfit?