Black Alice vs. Marvel's most powerful magic!

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DeadpoolXXX
Black Alice

v.s.

Archenemy + Sise neg + Shuma Gorath + Doctor Strange

DarkSaint85
She replicated a 5D imp, so......

"Id"
Black Alice sucks them dry.

DeadpoolXXX
Archenemy was devouring all the magic of the hell lords and their dimensions, sise absorbed all magic across all time and became supreme being like, and strange with all his relics can do all sorts of crazy stuff, lol.

figured power of that magnitude should be able to at least give alice a run for her money? i mean, can't her copying powers be blocked to some extent? confused

SithLantern93
Originally posted by "Id"
Black Alice sucks them dry.


Kinky

Surtur
Originally posted by SithLantern93
Kinky

I hope she likes the taste of tentacles.

Galan007
Originally posted by DeadpoolXXX
i mean, can't her copying powers be blocked to some extent? confused The *only* character that ever blocked Alice's powers was a hostless Spectre during DoV:
http://i.imgur.com/8BdmYTT.jpg
*Mind you, that was only AFTER she had already stolen his power the first time.

However, in later issues Alice was able to access the power of Spectre w/o issue:
http://i.imgur.com/mE0BFnd.jpg
...So evidently those defensive 'barriers' he put in place during DoV didn't stick. /shrug


Also keep in mind: Alice doesn't 'copy' magical powers -- she steals them entirely, leaving the host powerless:
http://i.imgur.com/SvOyVVX.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/QgaNGMA.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/6j8AuoW.jpg


And her ability to steal magic is quite unbounded. Aside from stealing the power of Spectre(*see the above scan*), she has also stolen the magic of Thunderbolt -- a 5D D'jinn:
http://i.imgur.com/JhzMcuj.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/F2Uc0Rr.jpg


Couple that with her ability to summon any powerset she has ever 'borrowed', and she is probably the most powerful magic-user in comics... Hell, she could very well be one of the most powerful comic characters in general, tbh. /shrug

DeadpoolXXX
thanks for the response!

one question though- why do you think she was thunderbolt in that page? it was just one panel. confused

DarkSaint85
Name another character, magically based, who looks like that.

BA doesn't look like that naturally. So to get all pink and lightning-y, she'd have to have jacked someone else's powers.

Galan007
Originally posted by DeadpoolXXX
thanks for the response!

one question though- why do you think she was thunderbolt in that page? it was just one panel. confused The same reason I know she was Spectre here:
http://i.imgur.com/hX1xg7H.jpg

Etrigan here:
http://i.imgur.com/DCsj5dn.jpg

Phantom Stranger here:
http://i.imgur.com/YS9HFSF.jpg

Blue Devil here:
http://i.imgur.com/fPn0lJi.jpg

Wonder Woman here:
http://i.imgur.com/E8Ro7xY.jpg

Alan Scott here:
http://i.imgur.com/Q82GjVE.jpg

Shazam here:
http://i.imgur.com/aACk993.jpg

Doctor Fate here:
http://i.imgur.com/xH2kDlc.jpg


Etc. Etc. Etc. smile



*And like DS said above: T-bolt's 'look' is also very unique... It is unquestionable that she was using his powers in that scene, just for the lulz. thumb up

StyleTime
Alice did mention that she has more trouble the more powerful her target is, like with the first Spectre showing.

Granted, the comics rarely seem to pay that any mind.

DarkSaint85
Basically, Old Man Galan is a perv and has been collecting slutty depictions of mainstream characters.

Originally posted by StyleTime
Alice did mention that she has more trouble the more powerful her target is.


Granted, the comics rarely seem to pay that any mind.

5D imp.

StyleTime
I know it's a flimsy argument, but it's about the only thing I can think of to help the Marvel side.

Galan007
Originally posted by StyleTime
Alice did mention that she has more trouble the more powerful her target is, like with the first Spectre showing.

Granted, the comics rarely seem to pay that any mind. That was more in reference to the duration she could control the abilities. ie. when Alice was a n00b, the amount of time she could keep a stolen set of powers varied depending how powerful said energies were. For example, as a n00b Alice could keep the magics of beings like Fate and Zatanna for ~30mins. Conversely, she could only retain Spectre's power for ~5mins, tops.

However, that 'weakness' faded substantially with time(and training.) thumb up

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Basically, Old Man Galan is a perv and has been collecting slutty depictions of mainstream characters. Well, I also made a respect thread for her some time ago.

...But mostly that. dustywanky

StyleTime
Originally posted by Galan007
That was more in reference to the duration she could control the abilities. ie. when Alice was a n00b, the amount of time she could keep a stolen set of powers varied depending how powerful said energies were. For example, as a n00b Alice could keep the magics of beings like Fate and Zatanna for ~30mins. Conversely, she could only retain Spectre's power for ~5mins, tops.

However, that 'weakness' faded substantially with time(and training.) thumb up

thumb up

Well Deadpool, I tried to keep it going.

I agree with Galan and Dark though. Alice is pretty cray cray.

DeadpoolXXX
Originally posted by Galan007
The same reason I know she was Spectre here:
http://i.imgur.com/hX1xg7H.jpg

Etrigan here:
http://i.imgur.com/DCsj5dn.jpg

Phantom Stranger here:
http://i.imgur.com/YS9HFSF.jpg

Blue Devil here:
http://i.imgur.com/fPn0lJi.jpg

Wonder Woman here:
http://i.imgur.com/E8Ro7xY.jpg

Alan Scott here:
http://i.imgur.com/Q82GjVE.jpg

Shazam here:
http://i.imgur.com/aACk993.jpg

Doctor Fate here:
http://i.imgur.com/xH2kDlc.jpg


Etc. Etc. Etc. smile



*And like DS said above: T-bolt's 'look' is also very unique... It is unquestionable that she was using his powers in that scene, just for the lulz. thumb up well i just crammed my foot down my own throat didnt i? embarrasment

thanks for the response though. knew she was powerful, but i didnt know just HOW powerful. geeze.

Originally posted by StyleTime
thumb up

Well Deadpool, I tried to keep it going.

I agree with Galan and Dark though. Alice is pretty cray cray. lol thanks. stick out tongue

so whats the consensus here? i mean can ANYONE beat this girl?

DarkSaint85
Jared Stevens thumb up

Mr Master
Sise-Neg drains her and adds her power to his own.

... if it's Sise-neg at his peak, (Genesis) then he stomps.

imo

Galan007
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Jared Stevens thumb up Paradoxical as it sounds, I think Alice can steal his powerset, tbh. If anyone is more haxx than him, it's her... Or she dupes his daggers, 'ports behind him(ala Misfit's powerset), and stabs him in the back like Mordru did.



...OR it really is an 'irresistible force/immovable object' type of scenario. srug

Mr Master
Originally posted by DeadpoolXXX

so whats the consensus here? i mean can ANYONE beat this girl?
... from the group in the op? ... Sise-neg fo' shiz.

DeadpoolXXX
Originally posted by Mr Master
... from the group in the op? ... Sise-neg fo' shiz. well damn now i am really confused lol. So why do you think sise has the edge over black alice?

Mr Master
Originally posted by DeadpoolXXX

well damn now i am really confused lol.

So why do you think sise has the edge over black alice?
Sise-Neg absorbed all existing mystical energy in Marvel.

The result? ... he became ... "The" God.

If Alice can become "The" God of DC, she can at-least stalemate.

operator616
Originally posted by Galan007
The *only* character that ever blocked Alice's powers was a hostless Spectre during DoV:
http://i.imgur.com/8BdmYTT.jpg
*Mind you, that was only AFTER she had already stolen his power the first time.


She stated that Dr Fate's helmet put up a resistance even stronger than the spectre (the DoV instance). Although in her defense, she said that she could eventually overcome it given time.

basilisk
Originally posted by DeadpoolXXX
well i just crammed my foot down my own throat didnt i? embarrasment

thanks for the response though. knew she was powerful, but i didnt know just HOW powerful. geeze.

lol thanks. stick out tongue

so whats the consensus here? i mean can ANYONE beat this girl? I wonder what would happen if Magik went at her with the soulsword?

But rather than using more and more powerful magical beings, probably the key to beating her would maybe be someone immune to magic who doesn't use magic themselves...

As far as this thread goes though, I actually think Archenemy and Sise neg have a chance here, given what they both did. Not a foregone conclusion though.

DarkSaint85
Originally posted by Galan007
Paradoxical as it sounds, I think Alice can steal his powerset, tbh. If anyone is more haxx than him, it's her... Or she dupes his daggers, 'ports behind him(ala Misfit's powerset), and stabs him in the back like Mordru did.



...OR it really is an 'irresistible force/immovable object' type of scenario. srug

Sure, she can steal it. But in the absence of anyone else to steal, she would just become a teenage girl who is immune to magic, and he's a fully grown dude who can just punch her out.

leonidas
Originally posted by basilisk
I wonder what would happen if Magik went at her with the soulsword?

But rather than using more and more powerful magical beings, probably the key to beating her would maybe be someone immune to magic who doesn't use magic themselves...

As far as this thread goes though, I actually think Archenemy and Sise neg have a chance here, given what they both did. Not a foregone conclusion though.

archenemy was the one i was thinking of too. and the soulsword's impact would be interesting.

Galan007
Originally posted by operator616
She stated that Dr Fate's helmet put up a resistance even stronger than the spectre (the DoV instance). Although in her defense, she said that she could eventually overcome it given time. And like Spectre, she *did* overcome Fate's resistance with time(and training), as she would later use his powers on multiple occasions.

It was actually pretty cool to see Alice's growth in pre-Flashpoint continuity. thumb up

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Sure, she can steal it. But in the absence of anyone else to steal, she would just become a teenage girl who is immune to magic, and he's a fully grown dude who can just punch her out. Immunity to magic isn't the only ability Jared had, though... Remember what happened when he removed the magical bandaging from his 'chaos-arm'..? evil face

He also had a decent arsenal of magical weaponry that Alice would be stealing as well. thumb up

Prof. T.C McAbe
I think Alice can copy the powers of an Universal being like Sissy or rather steal and stomp him.

MrMind
Alice stomps

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