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1. On land
2. In water

Originally posted by TethAdamTheRock
1. On land
2. In water Some little known Wonderman feats,

Shredded Iron Man's armour with his bare hands
Beat up on the vision and ignored his hand through the chest
Knocked out Namor
Beat up the Abomination

Simon gets no love.

Originally posted by Steve Zodiac
Simon gets no love. You're aware who he's fighting right?

Simon wins on land and I guess Aquaman should get the nod in the water because,,,,well he lives underwater so it just seems right.

Unless I'm mistaken, AM has taken it to Diana on land on more than one occasion. He should win on land after a good fight. He owns underwater.

Originally posted by zopzop
Unless I'm mistaken, AM has taken it to Diana on land on more than one occasion. He should win on land after a good fight. He owns underwater.

When has Aquaman taken it to Diana?

Originally posted by zopzop
Unless I'm mistaken, AM has taken it to Diana on land on more than one occasion.
She and Superman were on s break.

OT, WM in both 1 and 2 for me, excluding BFR, outside help etc.
Straight fusticuffs WM is just much more durable, and stronger, has a flight advantage and is a good fighter to boot.

Wonder Man

Originally posted by carver9
When has Aquaman taken it to Diana?

They were both mind-controlled at the time, IIRC. They had a short grappling match, no clear winner.

https://comicnewbies.files.wordpress.com/2014/10/aquaman-vs-wonder-woman-1-throne-of-atlantis.jpg
https://comicnewbies.files.wordpress.com/2014/10/aquaman-vs-wonder-woman-2-throne-of-atlantis.jpg

Originally posted by riv6672
https://comicnewbies.files.wordpress.com/2014/10/aquaman-vs-wonder-woman-1-throne-of-atlantis.jpg
https://comicnewbies.files.wordpress.com/2014/10/aquaman-vs-wonder-woman-2-throne-of-atlantis.jpg
Here's a better one. She has the advantage, she has his back and she has the choke. He breaks her hold and winds up pinning HER down!
https://s12.postimg.org/5jm7cb1dl/4316183-3998192-aquaman_2011-_-_annual_002-019.jpg

Just like the scan you posted, she loves attacking him when he's focused on someone else.

I've always said that Aquaman's biggest problem is being in the Justice League. Think about it - he has prodigious strength, but the team has Superman. He has high level telepathy, but the team has Martian Manhunter. He has access to interesting magic, but the JL can call in the likes of Zatanna and Fate who use magic with a K in it (magick). He is really fast, but the team has the Flash. He can jump over entire buildings (and even city blocks), but most of the team can fly (even Cyborg can fly to orbit). He is a great fighter and tactician, but the team has Batman. He has access to ancient sea deities, but Diana has Zeus for a father and Poseidon for an uncle ....

Basically, Aquaman chose the wrong team.

He should cross over to Marvel and join an X-Men team, where his skill set would really make him a MVP. Imagine someone with his strength, speed, fighting ability, telepathy level, access to artifacts and more, and lineage. He'd be like an X-Men team all by himself.

Wonder Woman clearly outperformed him against Shaggy Man.

Originally posted by spetznaz
I've always said that Aquaman's biggest problem is being in the Justice League. Think about it - he has prodigious strength, but the team has Superman. He has high level telepathy, but the team has Martian Manhunter. He has access to interesting magic, but the JL can call in the likes of Zatanna and Fate who use magic with a K in it (magick). He is really fast, but the team has the Flash. He can jump over entire buildings (and even city blocks), but most of the team can fly (even Cyborg can fly to orbit). He is a great fighter and tactician, but the team has Batman. He has access to ancient sea deities, but Diana has Zeus for a father and Poseidon for an uncle ....

Basically, Aquaman chose the wrong team.

He should cross over to Marvel and join an X-Men team, where his skill set would really make him a MVP. Imagine someone with his strength, speed, fighting ability, telepathy level, access to artifacts and more, and lineage. He'd be like an X-Men team all by himself.
Good call.

Its a call i've made concerning Martian Manhunter, both regarding his powers on the JLA, and his being better off at Marvel.

Originally posted by zopzop
Here's a better one. She has the advantage, she has his back and she has the choke. He breaks her hold and winds up pinning HER down!
https://s12.postimg.org/5jm7cb1dl/4316183-3998192-aquaman_2011-_-_annual_002-019.jpg

Just like the scan you posted, she loves attacking him when he's focused on someone else.
She's a sneaky one, yeah. Thanks for the great scan!

Originally posted by Steve Zodiac
Some little known Wonderman feats,

Shredded Iron Man's armour with his bare hands
Beat up on the vision and ignored his hand through the chest
Knocked out Namor
Beat up the Abomination

Simon gets no love. When did wonderman ko namor?

Originally posted by namorsubby
When did wonderman ko namor?

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-MVEaxclKtI4/VXt_ngHp22I/AAAAAAAAoFM/lxGK78Rggss/s1600/av155_30.jpg

Originally posted by riv6672
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-MVEaxclKtI4/VXt_ngHp22I/AAAAAAAAoFM/lxGK78Rggss/s1600/av155_30.jpg early Wonder Man wasn't wrapped very tight.
Bouts of rage, then cowardice, dying and coming back to life again and again. His character was a legitimate psycho.

Originally posted by Horrificus
early Wonder Man wasn't wrapped very tight.
Bouts of rage, then cowardice, dying and coming back to life again and again. His character was a legitimate psycho.
Not really. Think about it, his brush with death warped him and he had a legitimate fear of it (who can blame him). The rage/cowardice dynamic was him attempting to fight the fear but ultimately having it overwhelm him. Loved classic Simon.

https://modernborefare.files.wordpress.com/2012/10/screen-shot-2012-10-17-at-9-27-25-pm.png

classic was a headcase. too much whining imo--the fear of death ting got old for me. anyway, this is a very close fight imo. really water shouldn't affect simon all that much. AM is more skilled. i dunno, toss up. like simon vs namor is a toss up. i thought that shot was some kind of sucker punch or something. what happened just before that scene, we do know?

Originally posted by leonidas
i thought that shot was some kind of sucker punch or something. what happened just before that scene, we do know?
What scene? The Namor/Simon fight?

Originally posted by zopzop
Not really. Think about it, his brush with death warped him and he had a legitimate fear of it (who can blame him). The rage/cowardice dynamic was him attempting to fight the fear but ultimately having it overwhelm him. Loved classic Simon.
Same.
To me he acted like a normal person thrust into a super heroic situation should.
Who TF wouldnt have issues after having their life's work destroyed, being experimented on, given god like powers, suffering multiple deaths and resurrections...?
Most characters seem to adjust way too easily to shit like that.

Originally posted by riv6672
Same.
To me he acted like a normal person thrust into a super heroic situation should.
Who TF wouldnt have issues after having their life's work destroyed, being experimented on, given god like powers, suffering multiple deaths and resurrections...?
Most characters seem to adjust way too easily to shit like that.
Yup. One freaking death/resurrection event would phuck a person up mentally for life. This poor bastard had it happen to him multiple times.

^^^No joke.
Then there's the 'my brain waves (or some such) got used to bring an android to life' thing.
Forgot that one.

Originally posted by riv6672
^^^No joke.
Then there's the 'my brain waves (or some such) got used to bring an android to life' thing.
Forgot that one.
And that android goes on to steal the woman he loves.

Didnt Simon steal Wanda?

^^^which caused him no end of emotional turmoil.
Originally posted by zopzop
And that android goes on to steal the woman he loves.
Oh and the 'my brother, my frikking brother, now dresses like a fetish pirate and is intent on killing me' thing.
Good grief, poor Simon!

As far as feats and victories for Simon, i'm pretty sure he had others that arent mentioned here. Yet. But, he has been around so long, floating in and out of stories and a lot of THAT taking place in titles that were not his, it isnt easy to track. It's not as simple to get the hits u want when searching, as it is for some of the more popular characters.

I know Count Nefaria aced Simon, but I'm pretty sure he has some other panels somewhere, where he took it to Nefaria. It was still his green uniform, the top getting torn off, finishing shirtless. I remember it. I think Nefaria couldn't believe he came back again and was holding his own.
I was able to find this:
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/9c/2f/c2/9c2fc2e630683eeac6911e66b37b72b0.jpg

He didn't sucker-punch Namor. The fight paused and Wonder Man took him out and Whizzer said he thought Namor might have come to his senses. Simon basically says "maybe maybe not", the fight is over abd thats what matters. Something along those lines. As long as he won.
This is how it went:
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/06/16/99/0616994f99b4a6a761461a36bc19cc6f.jpg
And u saw how it ended.

Then, there have been comments/comment about Simon's punches being comparable to Thor's hammer strikes.
Was able to find this, but not the panel before:
https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11/114312/2331330-panel_avg009b.jpg

Originally posted by Damborgson
Didnt Simon steal Wanda?
Other way around. Simon and Wanda fell for each other way back in his "green suit" days. Then, she fell for Vision.

And, right back at Nefaria AGAIN. This time, using Cap's shield:
https://static2.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11128/111284868/5296634-vision+vs+count+nefaria+2.jpg

So true.
Its fun sometimes, to search them out, but not when you're trying to respond in a thread thats moving along at anything like a steady pace!

Originally posted by Horrificus
As far as feats and victories for Simon, i'm pretty sure he had others that arent mentioned here. Yet. But, he has been around so long, floating in and out of stories and a lot of THAT taking place in titles that were not his, it isnt easy to track. It's not as simple to get the hits u want when searching, as it is for some of the more popular characters.

I know Count Nefaria aced Simon, but I'm pretty sure he has some other panels somewhere, where he took it to Nefaria. It was still his green uniform, the top getting torn off, finishing shirtless. I remember it. I think Nefaria couldn't believe he came back again and was holding his own.
I was able to find this:
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/9c/2f/c2/9c2fc2e630683eeac6911e66b37b72b0.jpg

He didn't sucker-punch Namor. The fight paused and Wonder Man took him out and Whizzer said he thought Namor might have come to his senses. Simon basically says "maybe maybe not", the fight is over abd thats what matters. Something along those lines. As long as he won.
This is how it went:
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/06/16/99/0616994f99b4a6a761461a36bc19cc6f.jpg
And u saw how it ended.

Then, there have been comments/comment about Simon's punches being comparable to Thor's hammer strikes.
Was able to find this, but not the panel before:
https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11/114312/2331330-panel_avg009b.jpg

ok, cool. i thought i remembered that fight differently. doesn't really change my mind on this fight or the namor/simon issue. i still think they are all so close as to be practically indistinguishable. who knows how long namor was out of water there? ben's hung multiple times with namor, and ben has stated himself he is stronger than simon, but there is a scene where simon is shown stronger, sooo.... yeah. this fight is a toss up still imo, as a fight between simon and namor would be.

Originally posted by Horrificus
He didn't sucker-punch Namor.

He kind of did though, this is what happened prior to the end :
https://s1.postimg.org/79wcje4sb/image.jpg https://s1.postimg.org/4h34zd4fv/image.jpg https://s1.postimg.org/8rhsuy9iz/image.jpg https://s1.postimg.org/6bfzh3rgb/image.jpg
Notice, Namor knocked Simon out the fight long enough to be distracted and have an entire conversation with Whizzer before Simon sucker attacked him with his back turned.

People are also forgetting, Namor was dying and needed Serum from Dr Doom to keep him alive (the suit Reed designed was wrecked by Doom) :
https://s17.postimg.org/4gsoq7b8r/image.jpg https://s17.postimg.org/j19rl167f/image.jpg https://s12.postimg.org/wc380dufd/image.jpg

So Simon sucker attacked a dying Namor.

Didn't Simon choke out Rulk?

Originally posted by deathslash
Didn't Simon choke out Rulk?

Yep, and he almost killed Wolverine in a fit of rage, and KO'd Namor regardless if it was a sucker punch or not. How can you not love the guy?

And than there was this=

https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11/117571/4228349-vs+ultron+-+head+feat.jpg

Originally posted by tkitna
And than there was this=

https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11/117571/4228349-vs+ultron+-+head+feat.jpg
Becareful people don't misunderstand that scan. He couldn't damage Ultron's adamantium body, he just rattled his weaker inner parts :
https://s12.postimg.org/6yv0bw3t5/a4rg5y.jpg

So he's strong AND smart!

Originally posted by zopzop
Becareful people don't misunderstand that scan. He couldn't damage Ultron's adamantium body, he just rattled his weaker inner parts :
https://s12.postimg.org/6yv0bw3t5/a4rg5y.jpg

Another myth busted.

Originally posted by zopzop
He kind of did though, this is what happened prior to the end :
https://s1.postimg.org/79wcje4sb/image.jpg https://s1.postimg.org/4h34zd4fv/image.jpg https://s1.postimg.org/8rhsuy9iz/image.jpg https://s1.postimg.org/6bfzh3rgb/image.jpg
Notice, Namor knocked Simon out the fight long enough to be distracted and have an entire conversation with Whizzer before Simon sucker attacked him with his back turned.

People are also forgetting, Namor was dying and needed Serum from Dr Doom to keep him alive (the suit Reed designed was wrecked by Doom) :
https://s17.postimg.org/4gsoq7b8r/image.jpg https://s17.postimg.org/j19rl167f/image.jpg https://s12.postimg.org/wc380dufd/image.jpg

So Simon sucker attacked a dying Namor.
*extenuating circumstances

Simon wins in both.

Pr, collapses in grief!!!

Originally posted by LordofBrooklyn
Simon wins in both.

Pr, collapses in grief!!!

You're an idiot.

Honestly, Aquaman wins in both. He's been pretty beastly since the new 52.

Originally posted by -Pr-
You're an idiot.

You're a traitor and poser!

Simon has manhandled Thor, who has Arthur performed against comparably?

I'll answer for you....

NO ONE!!!

Originally posted by LordofBrooklyn
Simon wins in both.

Pr, collapses in grief!!! Originally posted by -Pr-
You're an idiot.
Omfg, I loled IRL

Originally posted by LordofBrooklyn
You're a traitor and poser!

Simon has manhandled Thor, who has Arthur performed against comparably?

I'll answer for you....

NO ONE!!!

I never said Aquaman would win.

And you're still an idiot.

Originally posted by zopzop
Omfg, I loled IRL

http://i.imgur.com/ryo5Tvi.gif

Originally posted by -Pr-
I never said Aquaman would win.

And you're still an idiot.



http://i.imgur.com/ryo5Tvi.gif

You're a poser, traitor, potato rapist and fraudulent leprechaun!!!

Originally posted by LordofBrooklyn
You're a poser, traitor, potato rapist and fraudulent leprechaun!!!

Even if that were true, that would mean you were completely inferior to a poser, traitorous, potato-raping fraudulent leprechaun.

How does that make you feel?

Originally posted by -Pr-
You're an idiot.

Originally posted by -Pr-
You're an idiot.
Warning to Pr for this blatant flaming.


















ha-som

Originally posted by namorsubby
*extenuating circumstances
All fights have extenuating circumstances.
It was still WMs fist to Namor's face and Namor KOd.

Dont get me wrong, i'm a fan of both WM/Namor, so no agenda here.
But no fight is just 2 characters perfectly even and one punching the other.

Famous KOs like Shazam/Supes (sucker punch, lightning fist aura), or Iron Man/Hulk (armor's power expended in the punching, Hulk blinded and confused), all have extenuating circumstances. They also still count in forum fights.

Originally posted by -Pr-
Even if that were true, that would mean you were completely inferior to a poser, traitorous, potato-raping fraudulent leprechaun.

How does that make you feel?

You are subpar AT BEST as a poster here.

My debating prowess is BEYOND REPROACH!!!!!

Look at my UNDEFEATED Battlezone record as proof!!!

Originally posted by riv6672
All fights have extenuating circumstances.
It was still WMs fist to Namor's face and Namor KOd.

Dont get me wrong, i'm a fan of both WM/Namor, so no agenda here.
But no fight is just 2 characters perfectly even and one punching the other.

Yes but context matters. Simon attacked a dying man when he had his back turned. Prior to Whizzer interfering, Namor actually had Simon down. And Simon stayed down long enough for Namor and Whizzer to have an entire conversation.

You saw what happened when they rematched and Namor wasn't dying, Namor tooled Simon when Simon had Ares and Sentry backing him up. Guess who Namor is swinging like a bat :
https://s18.postimg.org/ihhfhrnrp/GUco2_Nl.png

^^^I've no problem with that scene.

I've no problem with either scene, though.

Originally posted by LordofBrooklyn
You are subpar AT BEST as a poster here.

My debating prowess is BEYOND REPROACH!!!!!

Look at my UNDEFEATED Battlezone record as proof!!!

http://i.imgur.com/wDDToev.gif

1. WM

2. Aquaman

Originally posted by zopzop
Yes but context matters. Simon attacked a dying man when he had his back turned. Prior to Whizzer interfering, Namor actually had Simon down. And Simon stayed down long enough for Namor and Whizzer to have an entire conversation.

You saw what happened when they rematched and Namor wasn't dying, Namor tooled Simon when Simon had Ares and Sentry backing him up. Guess who Namor is swinging like a bat :
https://s18.postimg.org/ihhfhrnrp/GUco2_Nl.png

"Captain America was at his best during the war".

Damn, Taskmaster was right.

Originally posted by zopzop
Guess who Namor is swinging like a bat :
https://s18.postimg.org/ihhfhrnrp/GUco2_Nl.png
Out of context!

Simon LIKES that!