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Prime Dooku.

20 meter starting distance; Force, sabers, and all-out -- who wins and why?

Dooku because Malgus is a slow tank, much like Savage, with too many openings in his technique.

Dooku in all.
He is just better.
Being stated to be (bar Yoda & Mace) the most skilled dueliat in the history of the Order, beforr growing considerably, beating Obi-Wan, besting GG, trashing Asajj as well as Tholme & Bulq, and holding his own against Yoda, for sabers; and ragdolling Asajj & Obi-Wan, being > Jorus, Yaddle, Yarael even as of TPM and the cruiser showing are imo superior to Malgus.

Darth Malgus comfortably.

Originally posted by Kurk
Dooku because Malgus is a slow tank, much like Savage, with too many openings in his technique.
Is that why he managed to go keep up with Aryn Leener who in turn have some of the greatest speed-related feats in the mythos?

And there are many openings in his technique based on what? His technique is noted for be flawless in the lore.

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Is that why he managed to go keep up with Aryn Leener who in turn have some of the greatest speed-related feats in the mythos?

And there are many openings in his technique based on what? His technique is noted for be flawless in the lore. didn't malgus get downed multiple times against satele's master?

That was, like, 20 years pre-prime lmfao.

Dooku.

Originally posted by Ursumeles
That was, like, 20 years pre-prime lmfao.

*40

Either way, good fight.

Thread as old as time...

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Is that why he managed to go keep up with Aryn Leener who in turn have some of the greatest speed-related feats in the mythos?

And there are many openings in his technique based on what? His technique is noted for be flawless in the lore.
I concede

Dooku one-shots.

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Is that why he managed to go keep up with Aryn Leener who in turn have some of the greatest speed-related feats in the mythos?

Yeah, not really. She is pretty fast though, quite a bit faster than Malgus himself.



"Malgus's lightsaber form was flawless, but he let his anger and desperation cloud his fighting. He faltered, and I followed through." --The Hero of Tython

He's certainly a superior martial artist, but that still honestly doesn't sound all that unlike Savage to me.

Originally posted by NewGuy01
Yeah, not really. She is pretty fast though, quite a bit faster than Malgus himself.

That's beg the question as of why she couldn't avoid his big boot to the face? The one that actually decided the fight - and not her glancing blows that skinned his armor?



Pretty understandable to falter when fighting against a group lead by the guy that soloed Drommund Kaas and defeated a weakened Vitiate.

Dooku, decisively.

Malgus, mid diff.

Originally posted by TenebrousWay
Pretty understandable to falter when fighting against a group lead by the guy that soloed Drommund Kaas and defeated a weakened Vitiate.

The Knight cited his anger and desperation as the reason he faltered. Regardless of the capability of his opponent, that sounds like a fairly classical description of a berserker-type fighter whose emotions cloud their judgement in battle.

Originally posted by Ursumeles
That was, like, 20 years pre-prime lmfao. don't be a dick. I wasn't lowballing and I was simply asking a question.

Originally posted by NewGuy01
His anger and desperation was cited, not his fear.

But he didn't falter because he feared them but because he was, most likely, overwhelmed/tired with the passing time.



The dialogue is the same, regardless of the mode chosen.

Dooku.

Tyranus. Malgus might be more destructive, but Dooku is more skilled, powerful, faster, has ways to combat superior strength and durability and is generally the more well-rounded combatant.

Dooku skewers

Opinions on Jensaraai's Video on this fight? No bashing Jensaraai just his video

I just don't see Dooku getting the Hero of Tython, the 3rd Barsen'thor, and a couple other heroes to kneel with Force Lightning simultaneously. Originally posted by TenebrousWay
Pretty understandable to falter when fighting against a group lead by the guy that soloed Drommund Kaas and defeated a weakened Vitiate. We're on the same side here, but it's always been an asinine assumption to say that Vitiate was weakened (when Hall Hood confirmed otherwise).

We know Vitiate was weakened because when he wasn't weakened he made the Hero look like a helpless child.

Also, what? So what you're saying is that if the Hero and Barsen'thor were getting blasted by Dooku's lightning, they'd just stand through it without flinching? Kekworthy.

Either way, but I lean Malgus. I'll make my case when I get off from work.

Originally posted by NewGuy01
The Knight cited his anger and desperation as the reason he faltered. Regardless of the capability of his opponent, that sounds like a fairly classical description of a berserker-type fighter whose emotions cloud their judgement in battle.
Anger is an essential component of the psyche of a Sith - it is a source of strength for the Sith in combat situations on average. Darth Malgus was very good at utilizing his anger as a source of strength in a fight (remember the fate of Jedi Master Kao Cen Darach?).

However, Darth Malgus was up against a Strike Team of super-agents and it likely wear him down until he reached the point of desperation and lost momentum.

Originally posted by NewGuy01
Also, what? So what you're saying is that if the Hero and Barsen'thor were getting blasted by Dooku's lightning, they'd just stand through it without flinching? Kekworthy.
Yes, they would.

Remember how easily Obi-Wan Kenobi countered his Force lightning? And this was much before the latter's prime.

He countered it with his lightsaber... Not tanking it.

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD

Remember how easily Obi-Wan Kenobi countered his Force lightning? And this was much before the latter's prime.

With a lightsaber.

unimportant detail

Malgus solidly

Originally posted by NewGuy01
We know Vitiate was weakened because when he wasn't weakened he made the Hero look like a helpless child. You mean on Ziost?

In Act 2 and KOTFE, tbh. To say that Vitiate wasn't significantly weakened/hindered against the Hero on Kaas is ludicrous, and leads to some absolutely ridiculous lines of scaling.

Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
In Act 2 and KOTFE, tbh. To say that Vitiate wasn't significantly weakened/hindered against the Hero on Kaas is ludicrous, and leads to some absolutely ridiculous lines of scaling.

It's nice to note, though, that Malgus still posed a greater challenge to the HoT than the weakened Vitiate on Drommund Kaas.

The Codex entry says he grew stronger every time.

What does that have to do with anything? It's explicitly stated like a billion times that Vitiate was weakened on Kaas, lmao.

He was still stronger on Ziost than in any previous incarnation.

And grew stronger still thereafter.