DoS Doomsday vs Kurse

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panthergod
Who do you think wins?

zopzop
Beyonder amped Kurse wins.

panthergod
Originally posted by zopzop
Beyonder amped Kurse wins.

How do you figure?

StiltmanFTW
Originally posted by panthergod
How do you figure?

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zopzop
Originally posted by panthergod
How do you figure?
uhm he was 4x Thor.
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
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Zack M
4x the man?

panthergod
Originally posted by zopzop
uhm he was 4x Thor.

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No he wasnt. That figure was never given anywhere in a comic.

zopzop
Originally posted by panthergod
No he wasnt. That figure was never given anywhere in a comic.
The Beyonder originally made Algrim/Kurse twice as strong as Thor. Thor puts on his Belt of Strength that DOUBLES his strength. Beyonder FURTHER amps Kurse.
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Kurse is a minimum of 3x as strong as Thor.

h1a8
Originally posted by zopzop
The Beyonder originally made Algrim/Kurse twice as strong as Thor. Thor puts on his Belt of Strength that DOUBLES his strength. Beyonder FURTHER amps Kurse.
https://s2.postimg.org/b12k8yws5/RCO023.jpg
Kurse is a minimum of 3x as strong as Thor.

Correct. In the fights between Thor and Kurse, it seems that Kurse is not more than 3x stronger. 4x is probably a bit much. Thor is still easily able to hurt Kurse, etc.

DD one shot MM. Superman is at least several times stronger than Thor. Using that, everything makes sense. DD wins for several reasons.

1. He's at least as strong as Kurse
2. He's vastly faster
3. He has bony protrusions that can cut through flesh.

Rao Kal El
DOS FTW.

Imo has better feats. Kurse single feat with the beyonder amp is nice but overall and with a better average portrait or High end DOS should win this one IMO. But it will be a hard battle.

carver9
Kurse wins.

Philosophía
Doomsday.

JBL
Kurse in a STOMP. Far stronger.

Damborgson
Originally posted by zopzop
The Beyonder originally made Algrim/Kurse twice as strong as Thor. Thor puts on his Belt of Strength that DOUBLES his strength. Beyonder FURTHER amps Kurse.
https://s2.postimg.org/b12k8yws5/RCO023.jpg
Kurse is a minimum of 3x as strong as Thor.

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Sat him the **** down.

panthergod
Originally posted by zopzop
The Beyonder originally made Algrim/Kurse twice as strong as Thor. Thor puts on his Belt of Strength that DOUBLES his strength. Beyonder FURTHER amps Kurse.
https://s2.postimg.org/b12k8yws5/RCO023.jpg
Kurse is a minimum of 3x as strong as Thor.

Point to where the 3x figure is stated.

The ONLY thing that is stated is that Kurse was greatly amped beyond 2X Thor's strength.

Than in the strength description it says he was 2x Thor's strength and then further augmented.

Kurse is somewhere beyond 2x Thor's strength, exclusively.

Period.

Stop lying.

Rage.Of.Olympus
^Kurse dominated Thor. The belt of strength evened out the playing field. The Beyonder amped Kurse further. He proceeded to dominate Thor in a similar fashion.

The 3-4x amp is a pretty reasonable estimation. PG you've used far more circumstantial evidence.

panthergod
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
^Kurse dominated Thor. The belt of strength evened out the playing field. The Beyonder amped Kurse further. He proceeded to dominate Thor in a similar fashion.

The 3-4x amp is a pretty reasonable estimation. PG you've used far more circumstantial evidence.

.. Kurse was was briefly matched by Thor in the 90's, where his power was again specifically described as somewhere above 2x Thor's strength.

What I'm saying isn't an opinion. It's the consistently stated in comic description we've seen of Kurse's relative strength.

Kurse is somewhere beyond 2x Thor's strength. Any specificity beyond that is fan fiction, exclusively.

Stoic
Originally posted by h1a8
Correct. In the fights between Thor and Kurse, it seems that Kurse is not more than 3x stronger. 4x is probably a bit much. Thor is still easily able to hurt Kurse, etc.

DD one shot MM. Superman is at least several times stronger than Thor. Using that, everything makes sense. DD wins for several reasons.

1. He's at least as strong as Kurse
2. He's vastly faster
3. He has bony protrusions that can cut through flesh.

This post was made a while ago h1, but since you still post, you have to know that Kurse was immune to normal damage. Even damage done by Mjolnir was bypassed due to the new nature that was given to him by the Beyonder. I was going to say that if DD ran in and turned this into a slug it out yadda, yadda, but we all know that is exactly what would happen. DD would run in and begin getting his ass handed to him, because he would be taking damage while Kurse would not be, but only in a featureless environment. If DD were to get a fist full of iron, he'd beat the life out of Kurse, which would be a comic book setting.

Featureless environment it is then.

Stoic
Originally posted by panthergod
.. Kurse was was briefly matched by Thor in the 90's, where his power was again specifically described as somewhere above 2x Thor's strength.

What I'm saying isn't an opinion. It's the consistently stated in comic description we've seen of Kurse's relative strength.

Kurse is somewhere beyond 2x Thor's strength. Any specificity beyond that is fan fiction, exclusively.

Kurse's strength level possibly maxed out at 4x Thor strength, but could be lower is what should be stated tbh. Your claim likely meets with rejection because you refuse to give Kurse a wide enough range possibility. You have to include the 4x Thor strength possibility since no number was explicitly stated on either side, while also noting that he couldn't be any weaker than 3x Thor Strength.

panthergod
Originally posted by Stoic
Kurse's strength level possibly maxed out at 4x Thor strength, but could be lower is what should be stated tbh. Your claim likely meets with rejection because you refuse to give Kurse a wide enough range possibility. You have to include the 4x Thor strength possibility since no number was explicitly stated on either side, while also noting that he couldn't be any weaker than 3x Thor Strength.

Scan showing Kurse being described as anything other than somewhere beyond 2x Thor's strength, then..?

I'll wait.

tkitna
In a forum setting, Kurse would win

Stoic
Originally posted by panthergod
Scan showing Kurse being described as anything other than somewhere beyond 2x Thor's strength, then..?

I'll wait.

Well the belt of strength increases Thor's strength level two fold or x2. Kurse was then given strength to overcome even that level, so we now know that Kurse was well above a 2x Thor, and if you read the comic you saw that the added strength given to Kurse by the Beyonder eclipsed Thor's 2x strength capabilities. I would like you to produce the scan where Kurse was explicitly given a hard strength limit.

I'll wait.

BTW I know that no question is stupid, so I'm assuming that you did not read the issue or you may need to re-read it. Kurse at max was well above 2x Thor strength. I mean why would that even be a question?

h1a8
Originally posted by tkitna
In a forum setting, Kurse would win

Actually the opposite. DD would tear Kurse to shreds before Kurse can respond. He's simply that fast.

Kurse has no advantages here where DD has the advantages.

1. DD is at least as strong
2. DD is astronomically faster
3. DD has cutting weapons that can puncture flesh

Stoic
Originally posted by h1a8
Actually the opposite. DD would tear Kurse to shreds before Kurse can respond. He's simply that fast.

Kurse has no advantages here where DD has the advantages.

1. DD is at least as strong
2. DD is astronomically faster
3. DD has cutting weapons that can puncture flesh

His punches would do no damage to Kurse.

h1a8

tkitna
Originally posted by Stoic
His punches would do no damage to Kurse.

H1 cant understand that. He'll continue on about speed when it doesn't even matter in this situation.

h1a8

abhilegend
Doomsday

Kal-L
It really doesn't matter if Kurse is 3x or 4x stronger than Thor. Doomsday is far stronger and more powerful. He wins it easily.

Insane Titan

h1a8

Insane Titan

tkitna
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