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Blue Marvel
Captain Marvel
Spectrum (Monica)
Miss America
Black Panther

Vs


Ultraman
Super Woman
Power Ring
Johnny Quick
Owlman



Who wins?

I feel like the crime syndicate would beat the phuck out of them honestly.

Doesn't Johnny Quick has his own version of the speed force in his universe? Ultimates don't stand a chance.

CS wins

Originally posted by vansonbee
Doesn't Johnny Quick has his own version of the speed force in his universe? Ultimates don't stand a chance. I mean Owlman gets counter by BP, Power ring gets crush by Spectrum, Super woman knocks Captain Marvel out, Blue Marvel should stomp Ultraman and Johnny Quick runs circle around Miss America and later helps out his teammates. This my scenario.

Ultimates.. the syndicate wasn't all that impressive,seeing that they did had prep.. except for ultraman..

The Syndicate. Ultimates MVP is Spectrum, but she's not enough.

Originally posted by vansonbee
I mean Owlman gets counter by BP, Power ring gets crush by Spectrum, Super woman knocks Captain Marvel out, Blue Marvel should stomp Ultraman and Johnny Quick runs circle around Miss America and later helps out his teammates. This my scenario.

What are you basing Marvel "STOMPING" Ultraman on?

Originally posted by LordofBrooklyn
What are you basing Marvel "STOMPING" Ultraman on? Blue Marvel of course!

Originally posted by vansonbee
Blue Marvel of course!

PATHETIC!!!

Originally posted by vansonbee
Blue Marvel of course!

Ultraman would destroy Blue Marvel. lol

Originally posted by Zack M
Ultraman would destroy Blue Marvel. lol based off of?

Originally posted by deathslash
based off of?


Battle feats. Ultraman treated Black Adam like he was nothing. Blue Marvel is more around Black Adam level, IMO. Slightly lower, perhaps.

BTW, don't forget about Johnny. He can de-age people, too. Practically everyone is dead.

Originally posted by Zack M
Battle feats. Ultraman treated Black Adam like he was nothing. Blue Marvel is more around Black Adam level, IMO. Slightly lower, perhaps. and this was how long after he snorted kryptonite?

Not only that, but Adam putting Sentry in orbit while fighting Iron Man, Ares, Wonder Man, and Ms Marvel still shows up that feat. Knocking out Namor (with the Submariner stating that he hits harder than thor and hulk) with a punch, and one shotting Ultimate Hulk are both comparable as well.Originally posted by Zack M
BTW, don't forget about Johnny. He can de-age people, too. Practically everyone is dead. I'm going to assume that he has speed feats that put him above Monica or Chavez?

Freaking UM could solo the Ultimates.

Originally posted by deathslash
and this was how long after he snorted kryptonite?

Not only that, but Adam putting Sentry in orbit while fighting Iron Man, Ares, Wonder Man, and Ms Marvel still shows up that feat. Knocking out Namor (with the Submariner stating that he hits harder than thor and hulk) with a punch, and one shotting Ultimate Hulk are both comparable as well. I'm going to assume that he has speed feats that put him above Monica or Chavez?

It really doesn't. Put this in perspective: Black Adam KILLED the Circle of Eternity (Higher status than Spectre) and did well against the Pale Bishop (Guardian of the Universe). Ultraman while high on Kryptonite owned that Adam. Ultraman would clobber Blue Marvel. It's not even close, TBH.

Originally posted by zopzop
Freaking UM could solo the Ultimates. Pretty much.

Originally posted by Zack M
It really doesn't. Put this in perspective: Black Adam KILLED the Circle of Eternity (Higher status than Spectre) and did well against the Pale Bishop (Guardian of the Universe). Ultraman while high on Kryptonite owned that Adam. Ultraman would clobber Blue Marvel. It's not even close, TBH. he also got beaten by Billy and his family and needed help to push the moon. Do we know how he killed the circle of eternity? No we don't.

Good thing he has no kryptonite to snort in this fight and there is still another character that can blast him with his weakness so......

Originally posted by deathslash
he also got beaten by Billy and his family and needed help to push the moon. Do we know how he killed the circle of eternity? No we don't.

Good thing he has no kryptonite to snort in this fight and there is still another character that can blast him with his weakness so......

Originally posted by deathslash
he also got beaten by Billy and his family and needed help to push the moon. Do we know how he killed the circle of eternity? No we don't.

Good thing he has no kryptonite to snort in this fight and there is still another character that can blast him with his weakness so......

So you need a neuteredUltraman in order for The Ultimates win.

Originally posted by deathslash
he also got beaten by Billy and his family and needed help to push the moon. Do we know how he killed the circle of eternity? No we don't.

Good thing he has no kryptonite to snort in this fight and there is still another character that can blast him with his weakness so......

Post the scans of him getting beat by Billy.

Ultraman would KILL Blue Marvel. And easily at that.

Originally posted by LordofBrooklyn
So you need a neuteredUltraman in order for The Ultimates win.

Well, Marvel characters are generally weaker. Of course DC needs to be neutered.

Chavez solos

Johnny solos. De-aging, ftw.

Originally posted by Zack M
Johnny solos. De-aging, ftw.

Naw Chavez wrecks Flash-lite

Originally posted by deathslash
he also got beaten by Billy and his family and needed help to push the moon. Do we know how he killed the circle of eternity? No we don't.

Good thing he has no kryptonite to snort in this fight and there is still another character that can blast him with his weakness so......
Uh, what?

You'd have a hard time showing she can react to his attacks or even stop them.

Originally posted by Zack M
You'd have a hard time showing she can react to his attacks or even stop them.

Shed just bfr em. Too easy. Besides shes fast and durable enough to get airborne before anything

Originally posted by Sin I AM
Shed just bfr em. Too easy. Besides shes fast and durable enough to get airborne before anything

Feats of her dealing with a speedster like Johhny? Speedsters can deal with airborne threats.

Originally posted by Zack M
Feats of her dealing with a speedster like Johhny? Speedsters can deal with airborne threats.

Feats of her dealing with a flash level char? Not possible, they dont exist in Marvel. And i didnt say they couldnt but she IS fast AND durable AND strong so hes not one shotting or blitzing her.

He doesn't even need to touch her to win. She doesn't have the feats, so I'm going with Crime Syndicate.

Originally posted by Zack M
He doesn't even need to touch her to win. She doesn't have the feats, so I'm going with Crime Syndicate.

She doesnt need to touch him to bfr him soooo yea...rolling with Chavez especially seeing how Quick couldnt even handle Cold and an alt Luthor...meh

Speed kills in this instance. Literally.

Originally posted by Zack M
Speed kills in this instance. Literally.

Soooo in the actual instance where he couldve used his speed against people slower than him he gets crippled and killed. Yet you want to push a scenario where he uses it here?

Johnny will use speed. Same with Ultraman. Ultimates don't stand a chance, TBH.

Originally posted by Zack M
Johnny will use speed. Same with Ultraman. Ultimates don't stand a chance, TBH.

Ultraman is a different story. We are talking about quick who couldnt outreact a human level character who is somehow gonnna outreact someone with legit speed

Originally posted by Sin I AM
Ultraman is a different story. We are talking about quick who couldnt outreact a human level character who is somehow gonnna outreact someone with legit speed

Like who?

Sin might be confused. Johnny has taken on entire teams. Here he has the Teen Titans on the ropes.

https://i.imgur.com/9qWxbgV.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/J1G4wYZ.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/YTibRL1.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/bHqyF8l.jpg

Here is Johnny Vs The Rogues. He pretty much owned everyone and even TANKED Weather Wizard's Lightning attack:

https://i.imgur.com/S8HFvJP.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/fi7330k.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/lI9pYXT.png

https://i.imgur.com/SOdjKb4.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/PHxoi4e.jpg

Speed KILLS!

Johnny Quick and Atomica Vs The Doom Patrol

https://i.imgur.com/45bcwzj.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/LHL7tlb.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/n609AQ5.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/ZOzMYf5.jpg

Basically, Crime Syndicate would DESTROY The Ultimates. Ultimates don't have an answer to the Johnny Quick/Atomica duo.

Johnny certainly knows how to make an entrance. OUCH!

https://i.imgur.com/lwd7eB8.jpg

Atomica isnt on THIS team. Not sure why shes mentioned and quick was crippled by rogue

None of those show him going up against an experienced speedster like Monica.

Johnny did most of the work anyway.

Originally posted by Zack M
Johnny did most of the work anyway.

Doesnt matter..quick is a scrub

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
None of those show him going up against an experienced speedster like Monica.

He did bfr kid flash iirc

Even the weakest, scrubiest speedsters would run circles around the Ultimates. Not even close.

Originally posted by Sin I AM
Doesnt matter..quick is a scrub



He did bfr kid flash iirc he got the bfr against kid flash because he wasn't from the same time as them.Originally posted by Zack M
Even the weakest, scrubiest speedsters would run circles around the Ultimates. Not even close. presenting opinion as fact doesn't make you correct.

Yes, but none of you can provide the feats to suggest that any (other than Blue Marvel and Photon) can react to a speedster like Johnny. Johnny basically tooled a speedster much greater than the average Ultimate.

Ultimates get my vote. Chavez can put most of the characters on team CS out of action alone. I wouldn't be at all surprised if Adam was able to KO Ultraman.

I wouldn't be surprised if power ring solos. His blast did ko most of the league, iirc

And Photon can take on the properties of a power ring. What else you got? Chavez BFR's the brains of the operation along with most of the other members.

Not with Volthoom in control.

Originally posted by byrdgang21
Blue Marvel
Captain Marvel
Spectrum (Monica)
Miss America
Black Panther

Vs


Ultraman
Super Woman
Power Ring
Johnny Quick
Owlman



Who wins?


I don't see Volthoom anywhere in the OP Zack do you?

He's in PR ring.

Ultraman also owned Superaman

Originally posted by Zack M
He's in PR ring.

That could change things quite a bit. Good call. I'll have to check out the CS.

Yeah, that's the source of his power. The dude is always scared shitless, though. That's his weakness.

CS

Not seeing why Monica could not take on the properties of the Power Ring. It projects energy right? None of the CS has an answer for being removed from battle and into some alien universe either. Blue and Monica can combine into an incredibly powerful being as well. Ultimates get my vote still.

That depends on if she can control Volthoom (Who is ultimately controlling the user). The ring is part mystic, too.

Originally posted by Stoic
Not seeing why Monica could not take on the properties of the Power Ring. It projects energy right? None of the CS has an answer for being removed from battle and into some alien universe either. Blue and Monica can combine into an incredibly powerful being as well. Ultimates get my vote still. don't forget that Carol can still go binary with a little power from Monica or BM and panther can still summon an army of spirits to fight for him.