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And break in using the key.

Colossus
Namor
Aquaman
Wonder Woman
Iron Man
Magneto
Grey Hulk

By breaking in, you mean using it like a baseball bat?

Because you're hardly breaking in when you have the key....

Grey Hulk
Magneto
Wonder Woman
Namor

Can lift the key.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
By breaking in, you mean using it like a baseball bat?

Because you're hardly breaking in when you have the key.... to get in using the key i mean

Carver's list is spot on then.

^^^yeah thats about right.
I say about, cuz Iron Man could do it with prep, but thats just muddying the waters.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
By breaking in, you mean using it like a baseball bat?

Because you're hardly breaking in when you have the key....

First time I saw that normal sized key in All Star, I thought he meant "A key I can put in my pocket and take with me is much more secure then a super heavy key any of my villains can lift with brawn or science." Which would have been hillarious.

But nope, dwarf star normal sized key.

Wonder Woman can, and possibly Magneto (assuming the key is paramagnetic).

The others are thousands of times too weak and fragile to lift it.

Magneto.

Originally posted by Magnon
Wonder Woman can, and possibly Magneto (assuming the key is paramagnetic).

The others are thousands of times too weak and fragile to lift it.

Grey Hulk threw a pyramid like it was a baseball. This is nothing to him.

Namor held up an entire island. He can lift the key.

Namor
Wonder Woman
Magneto
Grey Hulk

No one on the list

So is the objective for them to pick up the key without damaging the underlying ground/foundation, like A/S Superman did here?:
https://i.imgur.com/QW6y7He.jpg
*IOW, they cannot just rip up the entire chunk of earth the key sits on..?


If so, this could be FAR more challenging than I first thought, as the key sits relatively flush with the ground... Anyone ever try to scrape a dime(or something really thin) off a perfectly flat surface, like concrete or tile? It can be a pain in the ass just to get your fingers under the damn thing...and a dime doesn't weigh 500,000 tons.

srug

Originally posted by carver9
Grey Hulk
Magneto
Wonder Woman
Namor

Can lift the key.

This

Originally posted by Galan007
So is the objective for them to pick up the key without damaging the underlying ground/foundation, like A/S Superman did here?:
https://i.imgur.com/QW6y7He.jpg
*IOW, they cannot just rip up the entire chunk of earth the key sits on..?


If so, this could be FAR more challenging than I first thought, as the key sits relatively flush with the ground... Anyone ever try to scrape a dime(or something really thin) off a perfectly flat surface, like concrete or tile? It can be a pain in the ass just to get your fingers under the damn thing...and a dime doesn't weigh 500,000 tons.

srug

How did Superman do it?

Originally posted by carver9
How did Superman do it?

Tactile telekinesis.

Originally posted by carver9
How did Superman do it? By being strong enough to lift it like a regular ol' key. Not saying some of the characters here are incapable of doing the same -- just pointing out that lifting it 'cleanly' like that requires significantly more strength/finesse.

Has Namor always been in this massive strength band? I mean I knew he was strong, but half a million tons? Really? (I'm not arguing with anyone who says otherwise, I'm just genuinely shocked. I had him down in the Ben Grimm range, or maybe a bit higher. Seems I was waaaaaay off!)

Genuine question - what's the heaviest metallic thing Magneto has ever picked up on-panel

Nope.

Originally posted by wuleecat
Genuine question - what's the heaviest metallic thing Magneto has ever picked up on-panel
He has lowered Avalon from the orbit into the Earth's atmosphere, and had it float some miles above ground. And that thing is MASSIVE. Not sure if that's the heaviest but it's up there.

https://uncannyxmen.net/sites/default/files/images/atlas/avalon05.jpg

He also controlled a planet destroying bullet like nothing and iirc, he was weakened when he did it.

Only Magneto and Grey Hulk (after a massive amount of anger amping) could do it.

Originally posted by Galan007
So is the objective for them to pick up the key without damaging the underlying ground/foundation, like A/S Superman did here?:
https://i.imgur.com/QW6y7He.jpg
*IOW, they cannot just rip up the entire chunk of earth the key sits on..?


If so, this could be FAR more challenging than I first thought, as the key sits relatively flush with the ground... Anyone ever try to scrape a dime(or something really thin) off a perfectly flat surface, like concrete or tile? It can be a pain in the ass just to get your fingers under the damn thing...and a dime doesn't weigh 500,000 tons.

srug

Not just that, but you'd need the fine motion control to trip the lock. Try doing it with your left hand, it ain't easy..

Doubly so if the lock sticks and you have to jiggle it.

Originally posted by carver9
He also controlled a planet destroying bullet like nothing and iirc, he was weakened when he did it.

He struggled with that bullet bit yea it is a good feat

https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/0/40/1162535-magneto1.jpg

Originally posted by wuleecat
Has Namor always been in this massive strength band? I mean I knew he was strong, but half a million tons? Really? (I'm not arguing with anyone who says otherwise, I'm just genuinely shocked. I had him down in the Ben Grimm range, or maybe a bit higher. Seems I was waaaaaay off!)

Genuine question - what's the heaviest metallic thing Magneto has ever picked up on-panel It depends on the writer. On the low end he's written slightly lower than Thing, most of the time he's stronger than thing, during the 60's and on some of his series he was clearly capable of lifting half a million tons. I used his most impressive showing for my answer.

Originally posted by cdtm
Not just that, but you'd need the fine motion control to trip the lock. Try doing it with your left hand, it ain't easy..

Doubly so if the lock sticks and you have to jiggle it.

Yeah but Supes strikes me as the kinda guy who'd ensure his holes were lubed, just in case.

*According to the Google, the Burj Khalifa(tallest building on earth) has an estimated empty/dry weight of ~500,000 tons. So for a point of reference, *that* is what the characters in this thread would have to be able to lift, just to have a shot at lifting the key... But they'd have to be FAR stronger still in order to lift/manipulate it in the precise manner required to unlock the door without causing a f*ck-ton of damage.



Originally posted by Magnon
He has lowered Avalon from the orbit into the Earth's atmosphere, and had it float some miles above ground. And that thing is MASSIVE. Not sure if that's the heaviest but it's up there.

https://uncannyxmen.net/sites/default/files/images/atlas/avalon05.jpg There's also this:
http://i.imgur.com/o4cP6Twm.jpg http://i.imgur.com/cXQDY3ym.jpg http://i.imgur.com/V1Tg6v4m.jpg

...But it occurred in a HoM tie-in, so I'm not sure where it stands in terms of canonicity. /shrug

Originally posted by Sin I AM
He struggled with that bullet bit yea it is a good feat

https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/0/40/1162535-magneto1.jpg The most impressive thing about this feat isn't *just* Magneto lifting/moving the bullet. It's that he was able to manipulate it from several lightyears away, and accelerate it to FTL speeds as he brought it back to earth.

mags is awesome.

Think alot of you are overthinking how much half a million is just cause it's Superman's key. Which is probably making it sound more impressive.

500,000 tons isn't really anything massive for the majority of these guys who have city lifting feats which should exceed that weight by alot.

https://www.google.com/search?q=how+much+would+a+city+weigh&oq=how+much+would+a+city+weigh&aqs=chrome..69i57j33l3.8511j0j7&client=tablet-android-samsung&sourceid=chrome-mobile&ie=UTF-8

Hell Carol Danvers pushed a meteor the size of Manhattan away from Earth
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11124/111244877/5607991-20161223_210451.jpg
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11124/111244877/5607992-20161223_210508.png

Theres a reason the bigger feats go by names like sextillion or quintillion

Magneto and Wonder Woman.

Originally posted by EcstaticGrace
Think alot of you are overthinking how much half a million is just cause it's Superman's key. Which is probably making it sound more impressive.

500,000 tons isn't really anything massive for the majority of these guys who have city lifting feats which should exceed that weight by alot.

https://www.google.com/search?q=how+much+would+a+city+weigh&oq=how+much+would+a+city+weigh&aqs=chrome..69i57j33l3.8511j0j7&client=tablet-android-samsung&sourceid=chrome-mobile&ie=UTF-8

Hell Carol Danvers pushed a meteor the size of Manhattan away from Earth
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11124/111244877/5607991-20161223_210451.jpg
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11124/111244877/5607992-20161223_210508.png

This is true. Look at Magneto's golden gate bridge feat, that alone shows more than enough power to lift up this key. You don't need to get anywhere near city lifting and planet killing bullets for him.

The key doesn't sink into the ground. So it can't be that heavy. The writer didn't use Google. Everyone on the list can lift it.

Originally posted by TheHulkster
The key doesn't sink into the ground. So it can't be that heavy. The writer didn't use Google. Everyone on the list can lift it.

If only the writer had linked to a quora site where someone asked if a key would sink.

If only the writer made mention of how keys sink.

Originally posted by TheHulkster
The key doesn't sink into the ground. So it can't be that heavy. The writer didn't use Google. Everyone on the list can lift it. A/S Superman also pressed 200 quintillion tons without the ground beneath him so much as cracking:
https://i.imgur.com/11thKv8h.jpg



...Comic book physics are a fickle b*tch. g007-psyduck

Originally posted by Galan007
A/S Superman also pressed 200 quintillion tons without the ground beneath him so much as cracking:
https://i.imgur.com/11thKv8h.jpg



...Comic book physics are a fickle b*tch. g007-psyduck

Kind of like rictor scale measurements.

That means he didn't lift that much weight. Remember, collateral damage speaks for what is happening in a ft.

Originally posted by carver9
That means he didn't lift that much weight. Remember, collateral damage speaks for what is happening in a ft.

Exactly.

Originally posted by EcstaticGrace
Think alot of you are overthinking how much half a million is just cause it's Superman's key. Which is probably making it sound more impressive.

500,000 tons isn't really anything massive for the majority of these guys who have city lifting feats which should exceed that weight by alot.

https://www.google.com/search?q=how+much+would+a+city+weigh&oq=how+much+would+a+city+weigh&aqs=chrome..69i57j33l3.8511j0j7&client=tablet-android-samsung&sourceid=chrome-mobile&ie=UTF-8

Hell Carol Danvers pushed a meteor the size of Manhattan away from Earth
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11124/111244877/5607991-20161223_210451.jpg
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11124/111244877/5607992-20161223_210508.png

A guy who can lift twice his body weight would probably still struggle manipulating a five lb key..

Yeah, cl100's have all sorts of feats waaaaay above 500,000 ton.

Otoh, few, if any, have feats of casually lifting that or more with the ease of lifting a dime. Doesn't matter who it is, there's almost always some degree if visable effort.

Originally posted by Galan007
So is the objective for them to pick up the key without damaging the underlying ground/foundation, like A/S Superman did here?:
https://i.imgur.com/QW6y7He.jpg
*IOW, they cannot just rip up the entire chunk of earth the key sits on..?


If so, this could be FAR more challenging than I first thought, as the key sits relatively flush with the ground... Anyone ever try to scrape a dime(or something really thin) off a perfectly flat surface, like concrete or tile? It can be a pain in the ass just to get your fingers under the damn thing...and a dime doesn't weigh 500,000 tons.

srug

Yeah but these guys can crush boulders with their hands like it was sand. I've always wondered what Superman had in mind when he dropped the key to his front door in front of his door? Come on in, I've got a surprise for ya?

A normal sized key in his belt buckle would be a hell of a lot more secure.

What if he lost it

Originally posted by TheHulkster
Kind of like rictor scale measurements.

Except again, the writer didn't start talking about the moon breaking.

Did Pak make any reference to the moon breaking? Refresh my memory.

Magneto
Wonder woman
Namor
Greg hulk
I

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Except again, the writer didn't start talking about the moon breaking.

Did Pak make any reference to the moon breaking? Refresh my memory.

Not sure of the relevance of the reference to the moon cracking, but a small crack forms in the ground under the key.

Mags and possibly WW

Originally posted by carver9
Grey Hulk
Magneto
Wonder Woman
Namor

Can lift the key.

I disagree. Maggy CANNOT LIFT THE KEY!

Maggy using the Power of the Earths Magnetic Fields can lift the Key, but Maggy cannot.

Magneto has lifted fat heavier than a million tons.

Originally posted by carver9
Magneto has lifted fat heavier than a million tons.

Are you saying that Maggy and the Blob dated?

Colossus
Namor
Aquaman
Wonder Woman
Iron Man
Magneto
Grey Hulk

Lifting a half a million ton key with TWO fingers?

Yes

Bump