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Set in the Amazon Rainforest. No prep for Thanos. H2h only. Who wins?

Thanos wins.

Quanchi what's your opinion on how this fight will go?

Originally posted by Stoic
Quanchi what's your opinion on how this fight will go? Thanos would beat him to death.

I guess it's a matter of opinion then.

Hulk smashes Thanos into purple jelly, then spreads it on his toast at breakfast. I said it Quan. sneer

I'm bit tore between these two, have to wait for the conclusion between Thanos and Thane. Both are beastly planet destroyers!

Spite thread

Originally posted by quanchi112
Thanos wins.

Originally posted by h1a8
Spite thread

Could you elaborate?

Feat-wise, this IS a spite thread... Especially since it is h2h *only*.


Thanos & Thane destroyed a world by PHYSICALLY flying through it, which caused it to destabilize/detonate:
https://s7d2.turboimg.net/t1/36290225_Thanos_011-013.jpg https://s7d2.turboimg.net/t1/36290226_Thanos_011-014.jpg https://s7d2.turboimg.net/t1/36290227_Thanos_011-015.jpg


Flip side, the mere SHOCKWAVES generated by WBH & Betty's punch obliterated a world, casually:
https://s7d2.turboimg.net/t1/36290222_Incredible_Hulks_634-013.jpg https://s7d2.turboimg.net/t1/36290223_Incredible_Hulks_634-014.jpg https://s7d2.turboimg.net/t1/36290224_Incredible_Hulks_634-016.jpg
*what's more, they continued fighting at *that* level for dayS on end.


So yeah, Hulk's feat utterly eclipses Thanos'... The difference in scale is gargantuan(I'm talking several orders of magnitude here.) We'll see what the final issue brings next month, but as of right *now*, WBH stomps the living shit out of Thanos h2h. Not even debatable.




*cue the inevitable quanchi-troll-post*

Arguing by feats alone is the lowest form of debating tbh. You're ignoring the peer to peer comparisons and critical thinking. It's why feats aren't necessarily needed to determine heirarchy. If you still want to decide these matches by feats alone by all means do so. Just because Celestials show up and don't destroy a galaxy that doesn't mean they can't stomp Odin. Common sense is not as common as I'd like it to be.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Arguing by feats alone is the lowest form of debating tbh. You're ignoring the peer to peer comparisons and critical thinking. It's why feats aren't necessarily needed to determine heirarchy. If you still want to decide these matches by feats alone by all means do so. Just because Celestials show up and don't destroy a galaxy that doesn't mean they can't stomp Odin. Common sense is not as common as I'd like it to be.

In other words, are you saying that because of cosmic standings, that Thanos wins this? Not sure if that's actually good enough.

Originally posted by Galan007
Feat-wise, this IS a spite thread... Especially since it is h2h *only*.


Thanos & Thane destroyed a world by PHYSICALLY flying through it, which caused it to destabilize/detonate:
https://s7d2.turboimg.net/t1/36290225_Thanos_011-013.jpg https://s7d2.turboimg.net/t1/36290226_Thanos_011-014.jpg https://s7d2.turboimg.net/t1/36290227_Thanos_011-015.jpg


Flip side, the mere SHOCKWAVES generated by WBH & Betty's punch obliterated a world, casually:
https://s7d2.turboimg.net/t1/36290222_Incredible_Hulks_634-013.jpg https://s7d2.turboimg.net/t1/36290223_Incredible_Hulks_634-014.jpg https://s7d2.turboimg.net/t1/36290224_Incredible_Hulks_634-016.jpg
*what's more, they continued fighting at *that* level for dayS on end.


So yeah, Hulk's feat utterly eclipses Thanos'... The difference in scale is gargantuan(I'm talking several orders of magnitude here.) We'll see what the final issue brings next month, but as of right *now*, WBH stomps the living shit out of Thanos h2h. Not even debatable.




*cue the inevitable quanchi-troll-post*

I was actually thinking the same thing. Not just that but did you also notice that Nebula survived the conflict nearly unscathed?

Originally posted by Galan007
Feat-wise, this IS a spite thread... Especially since it is h2h *only*.


Thanos & Thane destroyed a world by PHYSICALLY flying through it, which caused it to destabilize/detonate:
https://s7d2.turboimg.net/t1/36290225_Thanos_011-013.jpg https://s7d2.turboimg.net/t1/36290226_Thanos_011-014.jpg https://s7d2.turboimg.net/t1/36290227_Thanos_011-015.jpg


Flip side, the mere SHOCKWAVES generated by WBH & Betty's punch obliterated a world, casually:
https://s7d2.turboimg.net/t1/36290222_Incredible_Hulks_634-013.jpg https://s7d2.turboimg.net/t1/36290223_Incredible_Hulks_634-014.jpg https://s7d2.turboimg.net/t1/36290224_Incredible_Hulks_634-016.jpg
*what's more, they continued fighting at *that* level for dayS on end.


So yeah, Hulk's feat utterly eclipses Thanos'... The difference in scale is gargantuan(I'm talking several orders of magnitude here.) We'll see what the final issue brings next month, but as of right *now*, WBH stomps the living shit out of Thanos h2h. Not even debatable.




*cue the inevitable quanchi-troll-post*
Also keep in mind the Dr Strange scan stating that matter in the Dark Dimension isn't as dense/strong as matter in the physical universe.

Originally posted by zopzop
Also keep in mind the Dr Strange scan stating that matter in the Dark Dimension isn't as dense/strong as matter in the physical universe.

Can you post the scan of Strange saying that?

We recently saw Annihilhulk fighting Thanos evenly. I can't see Anni giving WB Hulk that much of a fight when he was unable to put the much weaker Savage Hulk down.

Originally posted by Stoic
Can you post the scan of Strange saying that?

We recently saw Annihilhulk fighting Thanos evenly. I can't see Anni giving WB Hulk that much of a fight when he was unable to put the much weaker Savage Hulk down. Annihilus was severely amped. In Thanos v Hulk , Hulk was getting his ass kicked

Originally posted by Insane Titan
Annihilus was severely amped. In Thanos v Hulk , Hulk was getting his ass kicked

That wasn't my point. My point was that the version of the Hulk that was confronted by Annihilhulk wasn't butt raped like Gladiator was. If Anni had run up against WB Hulk he would have likely been smoked. Savage Hulk in comparison to WB Hulk is nearly like comparing Bi-Beast, or Wendigo to WB Hulk.

It's still a bit early for me to make any strong claims, but I definitely can see where Galan is coming from in his recent post on the subject.

I'm also not sure if the power that Thanos currently has is his original power level? I don't even know if he's going to keep this power?

I love Thanos, but his battle with Thane just ain't even close to as impressive as Gammafather Hulk's destruction of the dark dimension.

Originally posted by Stoic
Can you post the scan of Strange saying that?

This is one of the scans :
https://s26.postimg.org/adn6zg6n9/image.jpg
Gravity, the glue of the universe, is much weaker there.

The other scan I'm referring to specifically mentions the matter in that dimension but I can't find the scan now.

So if BOTH gravity AND matter is weaker in the Dark Dimension than in the physical universe...... You see where I'm going with this right?

There is no way Pak knew that, so I always just disregarded it.

Damn, zop. You're dot-connecting like a mofo to diminish Hulk's feat, lol.

Can someone post the scan of Thanos beating up Hulk in Thanos vs Hulk.

Originally posted by zopzop
This is one of the scans :
https://s26.postimg.org/adn6zg6n9/image.jpg
Gravity, the glue of the universe, is much weaker there.

The other scan I'm referring to specifically mentions the matter in that dimension but I can't find the scan now.

So if BOTH gravity AND matter is weaker in the Dark Dimension than in the physical universe...... You see where I'm going with this right? AAAGGGHHHH

----

The sound of carver screaming in pain nearly deafened me.

Originally posted by Galan007
Damn, zop. You're dot-connecting like a mofo to diminish Hulk's feat, lol.

Also not to connect dots of my own, but did you take note of how Nebula and the Champion came out of it nearly unscathed? Sure the Champion was kayoed, but that beats being turned to dust by a country mile IMO. Well anyway, we'll get to see how tough the Champion is in comparison to the Hulk and Thor soon, so there's that.

Originally posted by carver9
Can someone post the scan of Thanos beating up Hulk in Thanos vs Hulk. https://s25.postimg.org/djgz9gelr/Thanos---_The-_Infinity-_Finale-_2016_-_Digital-_Empire_-015.jpg

That scan doesn't hold because Pak outright said that he needed Hulk to destroy a planet besides Earth. Then, Dormammu has fought and went all out in the dark dimension with that planet not having any type of visible damage. Zop, you need to do better than that to defend Thanos. A lot better.

Originally posted by Galan007
https://s25.postimg.org/djgz9gelr/Thanos---_The-_Infinity-_Finale-_2016_-_Digital-_Empire_-015.jpg

Not Thanos vs Hulk comic and Hulk was up The next panel preparing to punch Thanos.

Again Pak was not aware of any obscure references to the Dark Dimension's density.

It's not some hard fact that's consistently mentioned.

Originally posted by zopzop
Does either of you have the scan (about the matter in the Dark Dimension)? I knew I should have saved it to email or something. Bah.

Thanks for mentioning it. I'd heard rumors about it being written, but never read it. It does change the amount of actual weight that got pushed around in the DD, but you still have destruction done to living tissue that wasn't native to the DD. While Nebula went unscathed by the amount of force that was put out.

This is besides the fact. Thanos may be amped above his previous power levels. The fact that he can now fly may be as clear as it need get in order to draw that conclusion IMO. There are also too many plot holes at this moment to really make a strong claim.

Going back to the DD. Pak may not have actually had that in mind when he wrote Heart of the Monster. The plot lead me to believe that the Hulk needed a place of zero consequence to vent, which leads us all the way back to the World War Hulk arc, which stayed true to the original plot. I just don't know Zop? I guess you could regard it as being canon to one writer and that canon extending to other writers.

Even so, the planet and moon, and whatever else may have been destroyed in the DD was far larger than the one that Thanos and Thane flew through, not to mention Nebula surviving the power output.

Hulk himself said that he needed to be at the Dark Dimension so that he can let loose and destroy a world.

Originally posted by carver9
Not Thanos vs Hulk comic and Hulk was up The next panel preparing to punch Thanos. Thanos and Hulk never fought in 'Thanos vs. Hulk'... Not physically, at least. The only 'battle' they had in that mini took place on the mental/psychic plane.

Originally posted by zopzop
This is one of the scans :
https://s26.postimg.org/adn6zg6n9/image.jpg
Gravity, the glue of the universe, is much weaker there.

The other scan I'm referring to specifically mentions the matter in that dimension but I can't find the scan now.

So if BOTH gravity AND matter is weaker in the Dark Dimension than in the physical universe...... You see where I'm going with this right?

DESTROY THE SOULS OF THE GAMMITES BROTHER!!!!

Originally posted by zopzop
This is one of the scans :
postimg.org/image/adn6zg6n9/]https://s26.postimg.org/adn6zg6n9/image.jpg
Gravity, the glue of the universe, is much weaker there. Yeah, but that is talking about the Dark Dimension when it was in its infancy. On the next page of that issue it is stated that concepts like gravity and such were stabilized by the "Mhuruuks" . I cannot post links yet, but someone who can should post the scan- it's from Doctor Strange: Sorcerer Supreme v1 #21.

Originally posted by Mendax
Yeah, but that is talking about the Dark Dimension when it was in its infancy. On the next page of that issue it is stated that concepts like gravity and such were stabilized by the "Mhuruuks" . I cannot post links yet, but someone who can should post the scan- it's from Doctor Strange: Sorcerer Supreme v1 #21.

Wow!!! This better not be true.

Originally posted by Mendax
Yeah, but that is talking about the Dark Dimension when it was in its infancy. On the next page of that issue it is stated that concepts like gravity and such were stabilized by the "Mhuruuks" . I cannot post links yet, but someone who can should post the scan- it's from Doctor Strange: Sorcerer Supreme v1 #21. https://s7d7.turboimg.net/t1/36300404_1.jpg

Originally posted by carver9
Wow!!! This better not be true.



Originally posted by Galan007
https://s7d7.turboimg.net/t1/36300404_1.jpg

You were holding out?

Originally posted by Galan007
https://s7d7.turboimg.net/t1/36300404_1.jpg

This don't make no got darn sense. The scan that Zop posted has been thrown around KMC since WBH ft and there was context that entire time that they failed to post. That's terrible. Thanks Galan.

Originally posted by carver9
This don't make no got darn sense. The scan that Zop posted has been thrown around KMC since WBH ft and there was context that entire time that they failed to post. That's terrible. Thanks Galan.
It is, next time I'll track down the entire issue. But that last scan remains. The one where Strange said the matter in the dark dimension isn't as sturdy as the matter in the physical universe. I want that scan and the issue it came from.

Originally posted by Stoic
In other words, are you saying that because of cosmic standings, that Thanos wins this? Not sure if that's actually good enough.



I was actually thinking the same thing. Not just that but did you also notice that Nebula survived the conflict nearly unscathed? I am arguing based off his peer by peer comparisons he's much higher on the scale than Hulk is, sport.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I am arguing based off his peer by peer comparisons he's much higher on the scale than Hulk is, sport.

The great thing about the Hulk is that he never really had a static level isn't that right sport?

Originally posted by Stoic
The great thing about the Hulk is that he never really had a static level isn't that right sport? We go by showings not your little ignorant imagination, sport. You never were good at this. Throw in the towel like you always do.

Originally posted by quanchi112
We go by showings not your little ignorant imagination, sport. You never were good at this. Throw in the towel like you always do.

Well actually I never made any hard claims. That's you doing that. Stop projecting your failings onto me. As for the feats that you recently wanted to do away with in favor of titles, or cosmic standing, WB Hulk's feat outshines Thanos' feat. Just deal with it as best as you can.

Originally posted by Stoic
Well actually I never made any hard claims. That's you doing that. Stop projecting your failings onto me. As for the feats that you recently wanted to do away with in favor of titles, or cosmic standing, WB Hulk's feat outshines Thanos' feat. Just deal with it as best as you can. Feats don't decide who wins any of these matchups. If you believe they do you must be new to comics. Thanos' history of opponents for outshines the best the Hulk has ever looked. Be serious for a moment. You are free to worship feats but I'm also free to laugh about the feat guys.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Feats don't decide who wins any of these matchups. If you believe they do you must be new to comics. Thanos' history of opponents for outshines the best the Hulk has ever looked. Be serious for a moment. You are free to worship feats but I'm also free to laugh about the feat guys.

Well it's certainly refreshing to know that everyone has a right to their opinion right? Just take off your Thanos glasses and look at what's being presented in the OP. WB Hulk's power output was orders of magnitude greater than what we saw between Thanos and Thane. I don't even want to go into how the feat in the Dark Dimension was done mostly by the Hulk, because when you delve deeper into what really happened in the DD, the chances of failure for Thanos become even greater.

Originally posted by Stoic
Well it's certainly refreshing to know that everyone has a right to their opinion right? Just take off your Thanos glasses and look at what's being presented in the OP. WB Hulk's power output was orders of magnitude greater than what we saw between Thanos and Thane. I don't even want to go into how the feat in the Dark Dimension was done mostly by the Hulk, because when you delve deeper into what really happened in the DD, the chances of failure for Thanos become even greater. What do you mean by collateral damage as if that's been anything to solely focus on. Your bias wants to block out the rest. Hulk and his opponents have been lesser than Odin, Tyrant, Maker, Thane (Phoenix force), etc.

Feats don't make anyone more impressive since they are one offs and have nothing to do with Thanos. When the two characters go head to head Thanos always comes out on top, sport. That's reality decimating your fantasies. How does it feel ?

Odin, and Tyrant also defeated Thanos. Thanos had to literally steal from Tyrant in order to nearly compete with him. What are you talking about?

Bruce has always tried to dial down, or fully nullify his ability to become the Hulk let alone some world busting nightmare that scares the shit out of him daily. You miss far too much content on your singular campaign of Thanos dominance. He's a powerful guy, and if he had full abilities there may be a possibility for him to win. But pure H2H with exactly what he spoke of during Thanos Quest? Stop kidding yourself. This Hulk has resisted TP assault.

The Champion with the Power Gem may have been on par with the Hulk during his collision with Betty. May have. The Power Gem was once a fragment of an extremely powerful Abstract like being. The Hulk and I mean the Savage Hulk gave the Shaper of Worlds fits way back in the day. The Maker's explosion which made a crater in the Kiln, kayoed Thanos. Thanos fought Annihilhulk to a near standstill. The green Scar would wipe Anni out.

Thanos before the God Quarry amp would not beat WB Hulk in a H2H match where powers and/or devices aren't allowed. You may have a damaged amygdala, because you seem to be unable to properly judge events.

Originally posted by zopzop
It is, next time I'll track down the entire issue. But that last scan remains. The one where Strange said the matter in the dark dimension isn't as sturdy as the matter in the physical universe. I want that scan and the issue it came from. I'm curious what scan you're referring to as well..? Not that I doubt you've seen a scan which states the Dark Dimension's matter was weaker/lesser than 'standard' matter, but I'm curious if there is any underlying context to it..?

Either way, I think it's at least clear that Pak intended this to be a 'normal/stable' planet -- identical to one you might find in 616. After all, the whole point of that arc was to showcase 'Teh Wurldbreakah!!!' in ALL his glory -- *fully* cutting-loose for the first time in his life. Pak wanted to show us what would have happened to the Earth if Hulk had ever *fully* cut-loose there... And what better way to depict this than for the mere shockwaves generated by his punch to destroy a world..? /shrug

*And remember: the planet being destroyed is just HALF the showing. Equally as impressive, imo, is the entire race of Mindless Ones(among others) ALSO getting vaped by the shockwaves.

Originally posted by zopzop
It is, next time I'll track down the entire issue. But that last scan remains. The one where Strange said the matter in the dark dimension isn't as sturdy as the matter in the physical universe. I want that scan and the issue it came from.
It's Dr Strange Sorcerer Supreme 50.

https://s25.postimg.org/h1oubkesf/Dr_Strange_Sorcerersupre50-11.jpg

@Stoic...

Agreed. Hulk punched Annihilus once and damaged him. One punch damaged him. The only reason Annihilus did as good as he did was due to using fear based powers on Hulk.

Originally posted by abhilegend
It's Dr Strange Sorcerer Supreme 50.

https://s25.postimg.org/h1oubkesf/Dr_Strange_Sorcerersupre50-11.jpg
I PHUCKING LOVE YOU ABHI! Saving this scan now.

Abhi's Photoshop skills increase by the year

Carver is most definitely on suicide watch.

*throws bait*
Now it makes sense why when they got back to Earth and slammed Fing Fang Foom, it didn't explode.

Originally posted by Stoic
Odin, and Tyrant also defeated Thanos. Thanos had to literally steal from Tyrant in order to nearly compete with him. What are you talking about?
Read some comics. Thanos proved himself to Tyrant and left. Odin stopped and it ended in a standstill. I can't be expected to have a reasonable discussion without someone I able to decipher the obvious. Thanos took him on for the sheer sport of it. Someone powerful enough to threaten Galactus. And then you want to compare him to the Hulk ?


We have seen Thanos physically engage him since that quote. How did the Hulk fare ? It's the same old maybes and ignore when these two go head to head. Thanos is always superior by comparison. Feats are just one offs and aren't relative to anyone save the same people in that story by that writer. Comic history has hit the reader over the head with Thanos being physically superior.

Hulk isn't the power gem. Just stop with your desperation it's kind of weak. Sentry burned out the WW Hulk. And once again when we see Zeus meet up with Hulk what occurred was one sided domination with Hulk pulling his guts out.

Speculation. Thanos fought an amped AnniHulk but Green Scar didn't. There's no amp it's to regular power levels and he can take on the phoenix force. Hulk is out of his league. He will puke once again. Poor Hulk he's no Thanos and never has been nor will he ever be.

Originally posted by zopzop
I PHUCKING LOVE YOU ABHI! Saving this scan now.

We can see that there is not much matter in the Dark Dimension when Hulk is fighting against Darkcrawler.

Lol...Hulk has been compared to almost every high end abstract from Celestials, to the power gem, a Celestial holding back machine, a Celestial killing Machine, Galactus, Phoenix, hell, even the Beyonder brought up his unlimited power, In-betweener and the list goes on. A cutting lose Hulk would kill Thanos and almost anyone if he wanted.

Peeps, even though Pak wasn't thinking about any type of matter or anything when he wrote this book (He outright bring up the fact that he put Hulk in the Dark Dimension for a reason, to let loose), the ft isn't him destroying that entire dimension (even though that is insanely powerful) in a single indirect hit, the ft is him melting Savage Hulk level opponents that was amped a 1000 folds without even laying a hand on them. One of them was a being that Strange implied no one on Earth could stop (Fing Fang) due to his amp. Just put it like this, Heralds has fought beside Cosmic level beings without them suffering a scratch. Hulk did something that no one has accomplished with a single hit to an opponent face. Imagine Superman punching Zod in the face ending with the backlash melting Black Adam and Captain Marvel as a side effect. The forum would explode. Piss would fly everywhere from Superman fans.

Originally posted by carver9
Peeps, even though Pak wasn't thinking about any type of matter or anything when he wrote this book (He outright bring up the fact that he put Hulk in the Dark Dimension for a reason, to let loose), the ft isn't him destroying that entire dimension (even though that is insanely powerful) in a single indirect hit, the ft is him melting Savage Hulk level opponents that was amped a 1000 folds without even laying a hand on them. One of them was a being that Strange implied no one on Earth could stop (Fing Fang) due to his amp. Just put it like this, Heralds has fought beside Cosmic level beings without them suffering a scratch. Hulk did something that no one has accomplished with a single hit to an opponent face. Imagine Superman punching Zod in the face ending with the backlash melting Black Adam and Captain Marvel as a side effect. The forum would explode. Piss would fly everywhere from Superman fans.

JBL, stop using Carver's account.

Originally posted by -Pr-
JBL, stop using Carver's account.



Everything I said was true.

Originally posted by carver9
Lol...Hulk has been compared to almost every high end abstract from Celestials, to the power gem, a Celestial holding back machine, a Celestial killing Machine, Galactus, Phoenix, hell, even the Beyonder brought up his unlimited power, In-betweener and the list goes on. A cutting lose Hulk would kill Thanos and almost anyone if he wanted.

Why don't you use him in the tourney fight?

Am sure special dispensation can be given to you.

I was going to write "Darksaint will be in here to reply to my post next...counter it", but I'm sure everyone knew that.

Lol not sure how my innocent post is to be countered; it's a legit question.

You love the Hulk, you know his feats. He's under the limits as per forum rules. You're convinced that he can kill anyone...and yet, when a tourney comes up, you never pick him. How come?

Originally posted by carver9


Everything I said was true.

You might have a stronger argument if you hadn't brought up Superman, considering how much you try to downplay him.

This is the toughest thread for me ever, who do I want to piss of more, Quan or Carver... damn

Originally posted by Prof. T.C McAbe
This is the toughest thread for me ever, who do I want to piss of more, Quan or Carver... damn

So your opinion is to personally antagonize?

WBH wins.

Was there already a rematch between Thane vs Thanos? What happened?

Originally posted by Stoic




You were holding out?
Stoic, Abhi found the scan. Just in case you didn't see it, I'm quoting him again.

Originally posted by abhilegend
It's Dr Strange Sorcerer Supreme 50.

https://s25.postimg.org/h1oubkesf/Dr_Strange_Sorcerersupre50-11.jpg

Originally posted by Stoic
So your opinion is to personally antagonize?

Always. Because I don't think it's possible to change the mind of someone who made it up already, like me. I have my "tier list" in my head and few things can change it, some feats, sympathy for fans of a char etc.

How about you?^^

Originally posted by -Pr-
You might have a stronger argument if you hadn't brought up Superman, considering how much you try to downplay him.

You can place Thor, hell, Thanos in place of Superman and the forum would still explode. It's only treated as such because it is Hulk. The forum went ballistic when Superman benched earth weights but when Hulk punched through a forcefield that Excaliber couldn't breach or nearly depleted the In-between of his power or punched so hard that he reversed time across the entire planet and broke through time or walked through a weapon that breaks atoms down to the molecular level or punched a ship that was the size of a moon across space. It gets brushed off...This is the reason I brought Superman up because if he would've performed any of those fts, it would get mentioned AND acknowledged daily by most.

Originally posted by Prof. T.C McAbe
Always. Because I don't think it's possible to change the mind of someone who made it up already, like me. I have my "tier list" in my head and few things can change it, some feats, sympathy for fans of a char etc.

How about you?^^

Sure I get it. Superman, Hal, Kyle, Flash, Wonder Woman, Aquaman.. etc. range from different tiers, while all of the rest stay put in the preconceived idea of whatever tier you believe them to be in.

Me? I just want to see everything on the table before I make a decision. The Hulk does not have a static tier. He does have many limitations, but what does that matter if when you shrug a planet moves?

Originally posted by zopzop
Stoic, Abhi found the scan. Just in case you didn't see it, I'm quoting him again.

I see it, I've never stopped acknowledging the possibility that the weight that was pushed around in the DD was in actuality far less than seen on panel in terms of actual 616 weights and measures.

While on the other side, Gravity was changed due to a race of people that Umar may have likely belonged to. It was her kingdom according to canon that was destroyed. A kingdom given normal gravity by a being capable of shaping the DD to suit their natural comforts.

Originally posted by Stoic
Sure I get it. Superman, Hal, Kyle, Flash, Wonder Woman, Aquaman.. etc. range from different tiers, while all of the rest stay put in the preconceived idea of whatever tier you believe them to be in.

Me? I just want to see everything on the table before I make a decision. The Hulk does not have a static tier. He does have many limitations, but what does that matter if when you shrug a planet moves?



Exactly, though Superman, Hal, Kyle, Flash, Thor, Hulk etc. also perform above their tier or have a range in them. But I also have a personal bias. You are cool in my book for example, that's why Lobo (who I like anyway) is also looked at more favorably. I like Hulk but Carvers constant lowballing and hypocrisy against DC characters makes me judge his feats in a harsher way.

But even without my anti-Carver stance Superman is strength wise above Hulk in my opinion, because as I see it his feats are far better. But this might come from him being able to fly, which makes it easier to gather feats.

In this fight I think that WBH might be physically a bit stronger, however the new Thanos is already more impressive than Hulks best from my point of view. I would say that he is easily in the Skyfather tier now, while WBH might be in the low Skyfather or High Trans tier.

Originally posted by carver9
You can place Thor, hell, Thanos in place of Superman and the forum would still explode. It's only treated as such because it is Hulk. The forum went ballistic when Superman benched earth weights but when Hulk punched through a forcefield that Excaliber couldn't breach or nearly depleted the In-between of his power or punched so hard that he reversed time across the entire planet and broke through time or walked through a weapon that breaks atoms down to the molecular level or punched a ship that was the size of a moon across space. It gets brushed off...This is the reason I brought Superman up because if he would've performed any of those fts, it would get mentioned AND acknowledged daily by most.

You shouldn't lie, Carver. It's not nice.

Originally posted by Prof. T.C McAbe
Exactly, though Superman, Hal, Kyle, Flash, Thor, Hulk etc. also perform above their tier or have a range in them. But I also have a personal bias. You are cool in my book for example, that's why Lobo (who I like anyway) is also looked at more favorably. I like Hulk but Carvers constant lowballing and hypocrisy against DC characters makes me judge his feats in a harsher way.

But even without my anti-Carver stance Superman is strength wise above Hulk in my opinion, because as I see it his feats are far better. But this might come from him being able to fly, which makes it easier to gather feats.

In this fight I think that WBH might be physically a bit stronger, however the new Thanos is already more impressive than Hulks best from my point of view. I would say that he is easily in the Skyfather tier now, while WBH might be in the low Skyfather or High Trans tier.

Superman and the Hulk have always held different positions though. Superman can control his strength levels, the Hulk can't. Superman is in the top three spots of ultimate team members in all of comics, while The Hulk is a direct reflection of Banners emotional state. Scary thought. This particular Hulk/Banner concept like Galan mentioned earlier was written as the Hulk and Banner that could finally blow off all of the steam that he held in for his entire life, and be able to control it at will.

Up until now we can only attempt to measure the power output shown on panel, and the Hulk's appeared far more impressive. The world had a normal gravity, as a settler or guardian was maintaining that portion of the Dark Dimension. Umar shaped the planets and moons which was written to be her kingdom, and they had normal gravity according to all evidence presented.

There is also the fact that Thanos is being hand cuffed in this match and is unable to use anything more than H2H and I would assume the ability to amplify his punches.

If you read what I wrote when making comparisons of Annihilhulk vs Savage Hulk, and Annihilhulk vs Thanos it gives the impression that Annihilhulk would be torn apart by the Green Scar. But, that's only if you were willing to compare the difference between Savage Hulk and the Green Scar. The Savage Hulk was able to damage Annihilhulk's armor or carapace, Green Scar would have ramped up in moments to the strength levels seen in the DD, and torn him apart. The difference in power is nearly incalculable by feats and measurements. It isn't just a bit.

Again, this is just a H2H strength to strength match.

Originally posted by Stoic
In all fairness he was able to damage Annihilhulk's carapace. It said so in the book bro. Personally, I think that Thanos would kill every Hulk up until WB Hulk, as he was written above the likes of guys like Thor, Gladiator, Hercules, Savage Hulk, Silver Surfer, and the rest of that tier. He's the villain that all of the heroes have to band together to stop. The Annihilus Hulk fought was weaker than the one Thanos fought as it stated in the book his power was growing greater over time. Hulk did no real damage at all to Annihilus, the bug was never in danger.

Originally posted by Stoic
Not saying that he was winning, but that he was able to keep from being turned into a jelly roll. He was even able to put damage on him. This was something that Gladiator was unable to do. Now if you were to compare that particular Hulk to WB Hulk? There is no comparison. We saw what WB Hulk did to Savage Hulk level characters. Anni didn't do that. WB Hulk soared above the Savage Hulk in terms of power. So again, if the Savage Hulk was able to withstand Anni, WB Hulk would have turned him to dust. Again you seem to be ignoring the fact the Annihilus Hulk fought was weaker than the one Thanos battled. So using that Annihilus as a measuring stick is completely wrong.

Originally posted by Insane Titan
The Annihilus Hulk fought was weaker than the one Thanos fought as it stated in the book his power was growing greater over time. Hulk did no real damage at all to Annihilus, the bug was never in danger.

Scan where it states his powers were growing. I seen the word "evolving". Maybe you seen something I didn't see.

Originally posted by Stoic
In all fairness he was able to damage Annihilhulk's carapace. It said so in the book bro. Personally, I think that Thanos would kill every Hulk up until WB Hulk, as he was written above the likes of guys like Thor, Gladiator, Hercules, Savage Hulk, Silver Surfer, and the rest of that tier. He's the villain that all of the heroes have to band together to stop.

Starlin himself mentioned that Indestructible Hulk was a fight for Thanos. Nevermind the more powerful Hulks.

Originally posted by Insane Titan
Again you seem to be ignoring the fact the Annihilus Hulk fought was weaker than the one Thanos battled. So using that Annihilus as a measuring stick is completely wrong.

I agree with you. Would you say that he was strong enough to destroy a large world as a side effect of a collision with himself? Just before his death which was well after his confrontation with Thanos, he used concussive blasts to kill the Silver Surfer, Gladiator, Thor, and several other heroes, but never did he physically come close to one shot killing planets like bursting balloons. The blasts sent down hit Thanos as well, and while they did not kill him, they left him hurt. WB Hulk was unfazed by the collision and actually grew stronger, as we see him later in giant form.

Comparatively speaking going solely on feats, the gap in power still seems pretty large.

Originally posted by abhilegend
It's Dr Strange Sorcerer Supreme 50.

https://s25.postimg.org/h1oubkesf/Dr_Strange_Sorcerersupre50-11.jpg

I hope to god the Superman watermarks were already there when you found this scan.

...ermmnone

I just noticed that and I can't stop laughing.

That's a tramp stamp for Hulk fans, courtesy of the K-clan.

Originally posted by Galan007


I hope to god the Superman watermarks were already there when you found this scan.

...ermmnone


Yes, they were already there.

Originally posted by Galan007


I hope to god the Superman watermarks were already there when you found this scan.

...ermmnone

It's biensalsa's.

He has an entire gallery of scans tainted by that Superman filth, btw. Some say it's the only way salsa can enjoy Marvel comics. Others suggest it keeps his cock hard during prolonged fapping sessions.

I think it's safe to say that abhi slept with him.

Stalemate or thanos edges him out

Originally posted by TethAdamTheRock
Stalemate or thanos edges him out

Huh?
This is spite. Hulk would kill Thanos with his pinky. Thanos couldn't harm Hulk in the least.

Couldn't edit my post above. What I was trying to say is that a character does not have to be labeled a Space God in order to put up numbers that a Space God has. This isn't anything new in comics.

Power is power. Wiped out by Galactus, and turned to dust, or wiped out by the Hulk and turned to dust. The only difference is title, and preconceived static tiers.

Bump

Close match, if it is purely melee, then WBH should eventually take the win.