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Anakin's power has been stated to be unlimited and unparalelled.

As Palpatine, he befriended Skywalker, becoming a close friend and a fatherly authority to a youthful warrior often confused by the seemingly boundless power and abilities he had at his disposal.

Databank (2008): Darth Sidious

Skywalker was seduced by the dark side of the Force. His boundless abilities fueled a sense of pride that hastened his fall.



Palpatine elevated himself to the position of Emperor, and dispatched Vader as his ultimate enforcer. With his unparalleled Force abilities, Vader swept through the Jedi Temple.

Databank (2008): Darth Vader

Anakin ragdolled the Son and the Daughter:

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A series of tests proves that Anakin is capable of controlling both offspring, as the Father does, but Skywalker refuses to take the Father's place.

The Clone Wars Episode Guide: Overlords

Rejecting the ultimatum, Anakin overpowers the Force to tame both winged creatures. Obi-Wan and Ahsoka are freed, and Daughter and Son return to their humanoid forms. Father declares only the Chosen One could control both his children, the embodiments of selflessness and selfishness.

Ultimate Star Wars

Several years after, Anakin feels more powerful than ever:

Anakin had never felt so powerful. The Force was with him today in ways more potent than he had ever experienced.

Revenge of the Sith novelization

At absolute peak performance, no amps, do you think Anakin could replicate what he pulled off on Mortis?

What's the point of this poll? It's been confirmed that peak Anakin is Father level, and there was a what-if story of Anakin joining with The Son and stomping Sidious and Yoda at once.

Originally posted by cs_zoltan
What's the point of this poll? It's been confirmed that peak Anakin is Father level, and there was a what-if story of Anakin joining with The Son and stomping Sidious and Yoda at once.

He is trying to claim KF Anakin Father level.

KF is not Peak Anakin.

Originally posted by Azronger
Anakin's power has been stated to be unlimited and unparalelled.

As Palpatine, he befriended Skywalker, becoming a close friend and a fatherly authority to a youthful warrior often confused by the seemingly boundless power and abilities he had at his disposal.

Databank (2008): Darth Sidious

Skywalker was seduced by the dark side of the Force. His boundless abilities fueled a sense of pride that hastened his fall.



Palpatine elevated himself to the position of Emperor, and dispatched Vader as his ultimate enforcer. With his unparalleled Force abilities, Vader swept through the Jedi Temple.

Databank (2008): Darth Vader

Anakin ragdolled the Son and the Daughter:

https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/14/147508/4506592-anakain+ability+tk+%2830%29.gif

A series of tests proves that Anakin is capable of controlling both offspring, as the Father does, but Skywalker refuses to take the Father's place.

The Clone Wars Episode Guide: Overlords

Rejecting the ultimatum, Anakin overpowers the Force to tame both winged creatures. Obi-Wan and Ahsoka are freed, and Daughter and Son return to their humanoid forms. Father declares only the Chosen One could control both his children, the embodiments of selflessness and selfishness.

Ultimate Star Wars

Several years after, Anakin feels more powerful than ever:

Anakin had never felt so powerful. The Force was with him today in ways more potent than he had ever experienced.

Revenge of the Sith novelization

At absolute peak performance, no amps, do you think Anakin could replicate what he pulled off on Mortis?
A pretty good example of why taking every quote literally and taking every quote as an indisputable fact isn't a great approach to things.

If the circumstances are perfect, then yes, Anakin can probably momentarily show us his full potential. He isn't doing this and hasn't done this with any degree of consistency and hence it's completely irrelevant to bring up regarding a versus fight.

Stover's narration is consistent with Anakin's portrayal in TCW. He is held back by his guilt and fear, but once he lets go, whatever he wills becomes reality. He willed Dooku should lose, so Dooku lost. He willed the Ones should let his friends go, so they did. He is virtually limitless, only capping out at Father's level.

Originally posted by Azronger
Stover's narration is consistent with Anakin's portrayal in TCW. He is held back by his guilt and fear, but once he lets go, whatever he wills becomes reality. He willed Dooku should lose, so Dooku lost. He willed the Ones should let his friends go, so they did. He is virtually limitless, only capping out at Father's level.
And yet even after willing to Dooku, Dooku was still able to fight on for a bit. Hyperbole is Hyperbole.

Mortis Anakin only accomplished what he did because the place was saturated with the force. He could do anything he ****ing wanted

The father, Son and Daughter all one shot Palps and Luke

Though the notion that If Anakin was at Father level at the time. Even if he was Emotionally hindered, he still would be leagues about SIdious/Yoda.

Originally posted by Rockydonovang
And yet even after willing to Dooku, Dooku was still able to fight on for a bit. Hyperbole is Hyperbole.

Not true. The moment Anakin decides, Dooku's hand comes off.

Originally posted by godemperortrump
Mortis Anakin only accomplished what he did because the place was saturated with the force. He could do anything he ****ing wanted



The Son and Daughter were in the same place though. And Anakin gets stomped pretty quickly by the Son later in the arc. So no it wasn't simply just about the place. It was definitely some sort of peak moment for Anakin.

He's below Father, but above Yoda and Sheev.

Originally posted by cs_zoltan
there was a what-if story of Anakin joining with The Son and stomping Sidious and Yoda at once.

Where would one find that?

What ever happened to taking Decades of growth with the right mental state to reach, peak levels.

It was some Insider article or magazine or something.

Originally posted by SunRazer
It was some Insider article or magazine or something.

Tale a gander

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https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11122/111225346/5962798-3605772449-cwus1.jpg

Originally posted by AncientPower
He's below Father, but above Yoda and Sheev.

By what margins, respectively?

Father is the pinnacle of what Anakin could become, for loose reference we have Anakin amped by the Son defeating a combined team of Yoda and Palpatine in a what-if. Given Father is > Son & Daughter, which is far and away more impressive than taking on Yoda & Sheev, I think Mortakin would infact be the highest point of his career.

Many people seem to forget that Mortakin isn't beholden to the ROTS novel statement because Anakin doesn't remember the Mortis arc, none of them do. Obviously he can't be taking that into account in feeling more powerful than ever.

I'd say Anakin was almost the level of the Son by Knightfall, but quickly lost that by Mustafar once his anger fueled his fear and not the other way around.

Given more time to master, and become one with himself, he would well and truly have achieved the Father's tier.

This solidifies Sidious' perception that Vader will surpass them given time, which he should know given he's sensing Vader in danger on Mustafar. He likely says this because he can feel Vader's fear clouding his mind.

So Mustafar Vader < Yoda ~ Sidious ~ Invisible Hand Anakin < Knightfall Anakin.

Just my two cents.

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Where'd you get that?

It looks like AP is going to fail to provide the goods for his(?) claims a 3rd time in a row.

Shocker.

Originally posted by NewGuy01
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Where'd you get that?



Originally posted by twotter
It looks like AP is going to fail to provide the goods for his(?) claims a 3rd time in a row.

Shocker.

Oh, I'm sorry Ziggy, trying to be relevant again?

^ That was referring to the part where Anakin sees the future.

The ROTS Novel might be void in many parts though because TCW came later and overwrite parts of it. For example Dooku not knowing Anakin's true saber form would be retarded now.

Didn't FotJ stated that Yoda knew about Mortis?

@AP,

1 - As Thor said, that was specifically in regards to Anakin's vision of the future. The father never erased his memory of the entire mortis arc.

2 - Even if he did erase Anakin's memory, your claim was that they all forgot the events on mortis, where is the proof for that ?

3 - At the end of the chapter, Anakin clearly remembers the events as they happened when talking to captain Rex(?)

I was under the impression he meant all of his memories with the Son.

Ahsoka forgets everything after the Daughter heals her, as far as I remember. I'm also quite sure that Kenobi mentions his mind feeling fuzzy.

Nevertheless, my point remains, Knightfall Anakin can't be more powerful than Mortakin, if his 'what-if' incarnation amped by the Son, can only defeat Yoda & Sheev in a prolonged battle. Mortakin straight up dominates the Son & the Daughter in a fashion only the Father can.

Hence Peak Anakin must be Mortakin.

The what-if is non-canon, though.

It's still considered indicative of such a hypothetical confrontation though.

Originally posted by AncientPower
I was under the impression he meant all of his memories with the Son.

Why would you get that impression? The most obvious conclusion is that he's erasing his vision of the future, so it can become reality later on.



Define everything.




Oh, his mind was felling fuzzy, was it? So that clearly means he must have forgotten everything that happened to him within a 24 hour time frame. Well my stomach is felling queasy right now, clearly it must mean I suffering from Salmonella and not just reading your posts.



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Explain what version (as in time period) was used for the what-if version? I never saw it.

It's posted on the last page.

Originally posted by Greysentinel365
Tale a gander

https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11122/111225346/5962797-6017436404-cwus1.jpg

https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11122/111225346/5962798-3605772449-cwus1.jpg


Interesting reading that again. The Son's absence from combat and from interacting with anyone seems to be consistent with Witwer's theory, that if the Son had escaped with Anakin, then they would have left as one person.


Might also suggest the Ones are not actually "physical" beings so Anakin's dominance of the Son and Daughter may not be a TK feat. Regardless it was still the most powerful display of the Force in Canon.