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Pre DCnu Superman and Wally West run at each other from far enough away (however far that needs to be) for each to reach their maximum speeds (whatever those may be), intent on punching each other.

Results?
Is it a KO for either? Both? Mutually assured destruction?

https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11/111336/4201690-8759217466-38046.jpg

Honestly don't think speed= the destruction it is suppose to be vs what is Shown in comics. Comics, neither koing the other. Hell, even if you use real world physics, if both is going or exceeding the speed of light, shouldn't the force be the same on both sides?

Has Superman ever been punched at speed >>>or= to the speed of light? I know Flash has but what about Supes? If so, what was the results? I remember Wonder Woman being hit at those levels and if you want to use her as a crutch, it hurt her extremely bad.

superman has used an IMP to smash a moon. iirc he was ko'd by the collision...flash hit ww at half the speed of light, but zoom was knocking her around continents with his shots when she was blind.

there are many examples of flash hitting at or near light speed. superman has harder hits from a standing position. superman would def come out on top in this collision. he is exponentially stronger and more invulnerable to start. by rights he should kill flash, but...comics, so who knows how it would end up. /shrug

Originally posted by leonidas
superman has used an IMP to smash a moon. iirc he was ko'd by the collision...

1) Shadow moon, not a real moon. Durability comparable to that of an instant dessert or a jelly.

2) Not IMP, he just flew right into it, head on. Kryptonian super intelligence at its finest.

As ****y as your statement is, it was still written by McDuffie, so...

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
1) Shadow moon, not a real moon. Durability comparable to that of an instant dessert or a jelly.

2) Not IMP, he just flew right into it, head on. Kryptonian super intelligence at its finest.

shadow moon stated to be the same mass of the moon moving at an extremely high. speed read the comic kiddo

Go away, Beyonder. You're still not banned?

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Go away, Beyonder. You're still not banned?


that's what i thought son, stick to making corny jokes and sucking off carver

you've been banned more times than me

Go back to making KMC wikia, junior.

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Originally posted by ghostman
shadow moon stated to be the same mass of the moon moving at an extremely high. speed read the comic kiddo

What proof do you have besides a statement???

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Go back to making KMC wikia, junior.

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He does act like Beyonder. Is that really him?

Originally posted by carver9
He does act like Beyonder. Is that really him?

One time he tried to deny it, he said that Bada checked that he's legit.

Bada appeared in the same thread and told him to stfu...

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
One time he tried to deny it, he said that Bada checked that he's legit.

Bada appeared in the same thread and told him to stfu...

i am NOT beyonder you knuckle dragging mongoloid

i already posted evidence multiple times, id like to see the thread where bada said i was the beyonder, i will wait.

It's easy to test him:

1) Beyonder is a weakling. Kubik stomps him eyes closed and his arms tied behind his back.

2) WLR Kyle is a weakling.

Originally posted by carver9
What proof do you have besides a statement???

I'll back it.

Happens all the time in anime/manga (No offense Stilt, I don't judge. Seems Carver likes it rough anyways, so I can see the appeal..)

98% bullshit i dont care about...2% no concrete evidence either way as to the OP questions.

KMC at its finest.

I could see Superman KOd,but Wally groggy after.

Am basing this off the Shadow Moon showing

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
1) Shadow moon, not a real moon. Durability comparable to that of an instant dessert or a jelly.

2) Not IMP, he just flew right into it, head on. Kryptonian super intelligence at its finest.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Neither can Thor or Surfer. In fact Surfer died busting a stationary moon like Superman did while heavily amped.



And the moon was moving at a very high speed and would've destroyed earth casually. Not even Zatanna had the power to do anything to it and entire JLA+Syndicate were weaker by a thousand orders to do anything about it.

http://s6d6.turboimg.net/t1/29398350_RCO016.jpg http://s6d6.turboimg.net/t1/29398351_RCO017.jpg

Not to mention, characters like Wonder Woman, John Stewart, Flash and Icon were struggling with his human sized shadows.

http://s6d6.turboimg.net/t1/29398346_RCO007.jpg http://s6d6.turboimg.net/t1/29398347_RCO008.jpg http://s6d6.turboimg.net/t1/29398348_RCO009.jpg http://s6d6.turboimg.net/t1/29398349_RCO013.jpg

What it shows that Superman is a thousand orders more powerful than the likes of Wonder Woman, John Stewart, Icon, Firestorm, Flash and Zatanna put together.

Good luck with puny beings like Thor and Surfer.
Normal sized shadows were taking hits from JLA without exploding. Originally posted by DarkSaint85
I could see Superman KOd,but Wally groggy after.

Am basing this off the Shadow Moon showing
The same Wally who was a thousand times weaker to do anything to the same moon? Or who broke his shoulders at 100000 mph?

Flash would be lucky if he is only disintegrated.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Or who broke his shoulders at 100000 mph?


Never happened. Re read it, please.

huh, now i've realy lost interest in this one. You guys enjoy.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Never happened. Re read it, please.
http://pm1.narvii.com/6071/88341a45431f0961f9c287d97a47bd5b426ca826_hq.jpg

You were saying?

Now re read your post.

100,000mph =/= 100,000 miles PER SECOND.

Nor did he break his shoulders.

IOW everything you typed was wrong, lol.

Normally I don't do it, but how often do I get to correct you

Lol.

This is a tough one. Superman is clearly much more physically superior but the speed force offers a great protective barrier and in situations like this, where it is a contest of speed/mass...no one tends to beat the Flash.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Now re read your post.

100,000mph =/= 100,000 miles PER SECOND.

Nor did he break his shoulders.

IOW everything you typed was wrong, lol.

Normally I don't do it, but how often do I get to correct you
facepalmOriginally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Lol.

This is a tough one. Superman is clearly much more physically superior but the speed force offers a great protective barrier and in situations like this, where it is a contest of speed/mass...no one tends to beat the Flash.
Except when he faces off against Superman.

Not my fault you were out by a factor of 3600.....

ermm

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Now re read your post.

100,000mph =/= 100,000 miles PER SECOND.

Nor did he break his shoulders.

IOW everything you typed was wrong, lol.

Normally I don't do it, but how often do I get to correct you

Ownage. Abhi caught red handed.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Not my fault you were out by a factor of 3600.....

And apparently doesnt know tje difference between breaking a shoulder and tearing a muscle.

Originally posted by beatboks
And apparently doesnt know tje difference between breaking a shoulder and tearing a muscle.

Originally posted by beatboks
And apparently doesnt know tje difference between breaking a shoulder and tearing a muscle. Originally posted by abhilegend
ermm

Originally posted by abhilegend
Poor guy.

Originally posted by riv6672
Pre DCnu Superman and Wally West run at each other from far enough away (however far that needs to be) for each to reach their maximum speeds (whatever those may be), intent on punching each other.

Results?
Is it a KO for either? Both? Mutually assured destruction?

https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11/111336/4201690-8759217466-38046.jpg


For example...

Superman would walk away unphased, no?

Going by the scenario in the OP, Flash dodges Supermans punch then smashes him in the fact 100,000 times before he can blink.

End of fight.

Or Wally steals all his speed, then KO's him.

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Flash lands a counter on the way Marquez did on Manny.

Force = M x A
Superman is impervious which woukd mean denser. He also jas greater musscle bulk due to his strength. This should mean the force of his strike at top speed is greater thN tjat of any flash

Originally posted by One Big Mob
For example...

Superman would walk away unphased, no?
Thanks for the Bump, KMCer.

Flash has yet to prove that he can beat a guy whom can KO him with a fickle.

Superman wins.

I just don't get this. Flash f*cked up a white martian with a single IMP. He said he could have done it many more times if he wanted, but once was enough.

Superman is not walking away from thousands of those hitting him.

He can speed steal too. But if it's just punching allowed, Superman gets hit way more often than Wally will.(Wally will get hit zero times)

Originally posted by Surtur
I just don't get this. Flash f*cked up a white martian with a single IMP. He said he could have done it many more times if he wanted, but once was enough.

Superman is not walking away from thousands of those hitting him.

He can speed steal too. But if it's just punching allowed, Superman gets hit way more often than Wally will.(Wally will get hit zero times)

The white martian had no durability feats and he was BURNED by the friction of his travel around the world after the punch which negates his powers...

That's hardly a measuring stick...

And Flash had to circle around the World many times to get the required power to do that feat...

And Flash has a big mouth and everything that he say shouldn't be taken seriously...

At his top speed he could circle the world many many times, he's far above Superman then.

And now we are saying he can't hit with class 100 force? didn't he take out Mongul too?

Flash can probably snap his finger and blow Superman's eardrum.

Flash clearly wins

And if all powers are allowed, Flash just speed steals.

Originally posted by Surtur
At his top speed he could circle the world many many times, he's far above Superman then.

And now we are saying he can't hit with class 100 force? didn't he take out Mongul too?

He didn't harm Mongul... He pushed him.

I could not have asked for a better example of what I'm saying about Flash exceptions. Thanks Surt!

Originally posted by One Big Mob
I could not have asked for a better example of what I'm saying about Flash exceptions. Thanks Surt!

What have you been saying? I think Wally tends to get lowballed.