Namor [with Cap's shield] vs Hercules [without mace]

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Philosophía
Who wins?

Fight takes place in the rain, but there's no body of water nearby for Namor to drag Hercules into.

zopzop
Namor doesn't need the shield. Namor wins because of comparable physical stats but MUCH greater mobility.

TethAdamTheRock
I think Hercules is Much Stronger than Namor

leonidas
he's def in a different class despite their 'battles' most of which are nothing more than sparring matches. depends how effectively you see namor using the shield. i'd say of the 2 herc is the more skilled for sure. i could see him disarming namor tbh. not sure the shield makes that big a difference given that namor would hardly be proficient with it. i'd still take herc for a majority here. shield may get namor an extra win maybe. mobility isn't much of a factor to me because namor would have to close with herc anyway so his mobility goes out the window because to win he has to fight h2h. /shrug

celeyhyga17
thumb up

flight not really an advantage. if he had ranged attacks to go along with it, big factor.

h1a8
Good fight. If Namor can be proficient at the shield then he wins, otherwise Herc wins.

Smurph
I don't see their classes of strength as all that different, especially given some of Namor's higher showings. I also think Cap's shield could be a determining factor here.

Namor ftw, 6-7/10

StiltmanFTW
Originally posted by leonidas
he's def in a different class

Yeah, as he doesn't have half the feats Namor has.

Herc gets his head torn off stick out tongue

Genii96
Namor doesn't need the shield, he is just as strong as Hercules on Land and has better mobility

zopzop
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Yeah, as he doesn't have half the feats Namor has.

Herc gets his head torn off stick out tongue
All kidding aside, Namor does have suspect durability against concentrated heat attacks. Luckily that's not something Hercules is capable of reproducing (with or without the mace).
Originally posted by Genii96
Namor doesn't need the shield, he is just as strong as Hercules on Land and has better mobility
Nah, on land I'd give the advantage to Hercules BUT the OP said it's in raining in this fight. Depending on writer, the rain either invigorates him (see the BRB fight) or at least sustains him but he still needs to visit the ocean to be at 100%(see the old Thor fight). So assuming both fighters are starting in good condition, Namor is golden here.

TethAdamTheRock
Hercules one shotted Wonderman who is as strong as namor

Genii96
Originally posted by zopzop
All kidding aside, Namor does have suspect durability against concentrated heat attacks. Luckily that's not something Hercules is capable of reproducing (with or without the mace).

Nah, on land I'd give the advantage to Hercules BUT the OP said it's in raining in this fight. Depending on writer, the rain either invigorates him (see the BRB fight) or at least sustains him but he still needs to visit the ocean to be at 100%(see the old Thor fight). So assuming both fighters are starting in good condition, Namor is golden here.

His suit fixed his dehydration problem didn't it? Or is he in speedos here?

Genii96
Originally posted by TethAdamTheRock
Hercules one shotted Wonderman who is as strong as namor

A WW2/adolescent namor bear WM and Ares at the same time, used wonderman as a bat to smack Ares too

TethAdamTheRock
Wonderman is stronger than Namor

Genii96
Tell that to on panel showings between the two, WM couldn't even balance hydrobase himself

StiltmanFTW
Originally posted by TethAdamTheRock
Wonderman is stronger than Namor

Based on...?

Well? I'm waiting to hear. Go on, Colossus.

TethAdamTheRock
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Based on...?

Well? I'm waiting to hear. Go on, Colossus. His fight with thor and red hulk...

h1a8
Originally posted by Smurph
I don't see their classes of strength as all that different, especially given some of Namor's higher showings. I also think Cap's shield could be a determining factor here.

Namor ftw, 6-7/10 They are somewhat different. The key is to consider Thing. Namor is a peer to Thing. Thing is not quite a peer to Hercules.

Genii96
Namor has omeshotted thing several times

Smurph
Bump

lawest9
Originally posted by Braniac 5.0
I think Hercules is Much Stronger than Namor So do I, but WITH the shield will make Herc work much harder for the victory.

lawest9
Originally posted by Genii96
Namor doesn't need the shield, he is just as strong as Hercules on Land and has better mobility I'm sorry but Namor is a notch below Herc even in the sea let alone on land, I know this to be true because of an issue of the Avengers when a powerful repulser beam held Namor and the Avengers in status as Herc was the only one who was able to gradually push his way forward.

Genii96
Originally posted by lawest9
I'm sorry but Namor is a notch below Herc even in the sea let alone on land, I know this to be true because of an issue of the Avengers when a powerful repulser beam held Namor and the Avengers in status as Herc was the only one who was able to gradually push his way forward.

That issue occured when namor had a mental breakdown after being ousted from Atlantis, infact it was hercules who got namor out of it. They've fought nearly half a dozen times in land and they are always shown to be even in strength on land, underwater however, they've fought twice namor outright bullied Hercules, Hercules cheapshotted him with a team of avengers and namor beat him up, they fought another time and namor literally begun to bend him, Hercules list nearly half his strength just struggling, infact, namor saw the fight as so unfair that he had a comic cube change the battlefield to land,but kept himself hydrated, and guess what? They were even again.

lawest9
I remenber thst arc from an issue of yhe Avengers back in the 60's, Nsmor was being amped by the cosmic cube primarily, and in an Avengers story that I've just mentioned Herc was forcing his way forward while Namor was being held in place lamenting ' the olympian is actually making ground while I am being held in place, how much longer must I be humiliated?'.......quote and unquote.

Also Hercules is at lesst Thor's equal in strength and in a fight with Namor where Thor was being mind controlled into fighting him, Nsmor had Thor under water landing mighty blow upon blow with Thor tanking the shots like he barely felt them, so sorry........but I still maintain that Herc is a notch above him, but Subby is definitely close enough to give him a run for his money.

zopzop
Originally posted by lawest9
I remenber thst arc from an issue of yhe Avengers back in the 60's, Nsmor was being amped by the cosmic cube primarily, and in an Avengers story that I've just mentioned Herc was forcing his way forward while Namor was being held in place lamenting ' the olympian is actually making ground while I am being held in place, how much longer must I be humiliated?'.......quote and unquote.
Genii96 just explained to you the context of that incident.

lawest9
Originally posted by zopzop

Genii96 just explained to you the context of that incident. No sir, the incident that I sm referring to happened AFTER they had their big fight at hydrobase in which Herc started up to get Namor out of that funk he was in, afterwards when Nsmor joined the Avengers they constantly bickered over missions of who should lead the Avengers in Captain America's absence, it was a somewhat friendly/ half serious competitive ego driven thing among them.

As for some of the fights they had years later........the one's that he described may have happen during the time yhat Herc was reduced to being a mortal again by his father King Zeus which reduced his strength in half, but full immortal Hercules IS stronger than Namor.

Philosophía
It would be easier to follow if you post scans, you lazy scoundrels.

lawest9
I tried to find scans but couldn't

carver9
Herc

abhilegend
Namor vs Hercules, Avengers v1 40

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abhilegend
Namor vs Hercules, Namor, the sub mariner 58.

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abhilegend
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StiltmanFTW
thumb up

*waits for more*

abhilegend
Namor vs Hercules, Incredible Hercules 122.

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abhilegend
Namor vs Hercules, Sub Mariner v1 29.

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