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(No speed force dump or speed steal)

For example superman is just fast were flash uses a power to go fast, were zoom slows down time to move fast

Which is the best way to experience super speed?

Originally posted by TethAdamTheRock
(No speed force dump or speed steal)

For example superman is just fast were flash uses a power to go fast, were zoom slows down time to move fast

Which is the best way to experience super speed?

ZOOM as it is essentially immortality.

Without the speed force flash is nothing? Without messing with time, Zoom is nothing? Without the sun superman is nothing? If that's the case, then we should use characters that were born with their speed, not characters needing outside forces to aid them.

Lol like who?

Without food, Quicksilver is nothing.

Without Mjolnir, Thor is nothing.

Without the ring,GL is nothing.

Without the PC,Surfer is nothing.

Like JBL? Running away is his superpower.

I mean the wrestler that is.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Lol like who?

Without food, Quicksilver is nothing.

Without Mjolnir, Thor is nothing.

Without the ring,GL is nothing.

Without the PC,Surfer is nothing. mercury, Hermes, Gladiator etc...

Gladiator went through an enhancement process,which boosted him, right?

Was it just training or was he enhanced somehow

I think it was a power enhancement

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Gladiator went through an enhancement process,which boosted him, right?

Was it just training or was he enhanced somehow Gladiator was born with his powers. He went through a process sure, but it only boosted something he already had.

Hyperion is the only true character born with powers

Speedforce superspeed. It's like superspeed with benefits, with finesse.

bump

Originally posted by Braniac 5.0
(No speed force dump or speed steal)

For example superman is just fast were flash uses a power to go fast, were zoom slows down time to move fast

Which is the best way to experience super speed? The one where you have all of the advantages and none of the disadvantages because 'speed force'.

What are the disadvantages?

Originally posted by Braniac 5.0
(No speed force dump or speed steal)

For example superman is just fast were flash uses a power to go fast, were zoom slows down time to move fast

Which is the best way to experience super speed?

SETTLE IT HERE.

Doesn't the speed force allow the user to move as fast as they want without affecting their enviroment? i.e. save someone at super speed without snapping their neck or move around without creating sonic booms everywhere.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Lol like who?

Without food, Quicksilver is nothing.

Without Mjolnir, Thor is nothing.

Without the ring,GL is nothing.

Without the PC,Surfer is nothing.

Hey, Odinson did just fine without the hammer.

Originally posted by Ptr_Grifin
Doesn't the speed force allow the user to move as fast as they want without affecting their enviroment? i.e. save someone at super speed without snapping their neck or move around without creating sonic booms everywhere.

Exactly. It is significantly more useful.

^^^except non SF speedsters across all comics do that regardless.

You need to address specific comparisons. Non-speed force users usually have other specific mechanisms for dealing with the consequences of their speed, and they are often specific to that character.
If I can say anything in general, then speed force speed tends to have more advantages than non-speed force speed of equivalent magnitude. However, speed force users are vulnerable to anything that mucks around with the speed force.

Non SF speedsters in general come w. secondary super powers, so they dont burn up, fly off the planet at speed, break the necks of ppl they save (or burn them up).
There arent any real disadvantages really, unless a story is specifically written to feature a weakness.
Wally West himself post Crisis had to deal w. the enormous amount of calories he burned, and other introduced speedsters had issues as well. Again, these were played for the drama.

Superman was credited with, at various times, having an aura that protected his clothing and even those he held, etc.

Originally posted by riv6672
Non SF speedsters in general come w. secondary super powers, so they dont burn up, fly off the planet at speed, break the necks of ppl they save (or burn them up).
There arent any real disadvantages really, unless a story is specifically written to feature a weakness.
Wally West himself post Crisis had to deal w. the enormous amount of calories he burned, and other introduced speedsters had issues as well. Again, these were played for the drama.

You're talking about how they're written now, not the powers themselves. There is a difference.

For example, Superman can only do what he does because he's doing the math in his head: Longitude, latitude, how fast he can fly/run without causing sonic booms, etc. So yes, technically there are disadvantages, whether the writers bring them up or not.