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It's funny cuz I just made a respect thread for Sauron

Palpatine would bend the knee for Sauron.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Palpatine would bend the knee for Sauron. The Ones and Abeloth would bend their knee to Sauron, let's be serious here.

Except Nihilus. He is gonna reveal himself as Sauron's lost brother.

Melkor > Palpatine > Sauron tbh

Melkor=Nihilus
Sauron=Palpatine

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Sauron>any SW character save maybe the Father or Abeloth

And Nihilus

Originally posted by darthbane77
Sauron>any SW character save maybe the Father or Abeloth not really. The Ones >> Maiar.

Yeah, Sauron isn't overly impressive. Peak Morgoth is though, yeah.

The Ones didn't show anything impressive either.

Originally posted by Ursumeles
not really. The Ones >> Maiar. Sauron is stated by Tolkien to be of a far higher order than Maiar like Gandalf or Sauruman, and Sauron casually tanked lightning cast down on him by the Valar.

Sauron>most Valar (barring Melkor)>>>>>>other Maiar.

He also survived the blast that destroyed Numenor, which was sent by Eru Iluvitar. Eru being the God creator of Tolkien's lore. His spirit survived anyway, not his physical body.

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Doesn't matter, Sauron gets shit on by The Ones.

Not peak Melkor though.

Originally posted by darthbane77

Sauron>most Valar (barring Melkor)



It's good to see that regardless of the topic, you never change.

Sauron isn't above the Valar, yeah.

Originally posted by NewGuy01


It's good to see that regardless of the topic, you never change. So Sauron taking lightning from the Valar and emerging unharmed doesn't imply superiority to them?

lmao

Not when Manwe was sending down bolts of lightning all across the island and the areas it did hit outside of where Sauron was shielding himself weren't completely leveled. Lol.

Originally posted by darthbane77
Sauron>any SW character save maybe the Father or Abeloth Snoke would rape film Sauron.

Originally posted by Naugrim
Not when Manwe was sending down bolts of lightning all across the island and the areas it did hit outside of where Sauron was shielding himself weren't completely leveled. Lol.



It's literally essential to the lore that any Valar > any Maiar, tbh.

Originally posted by Naugrim
Not when Manwe was sending down bolts of lightning all across the island and the areas it did hit outside of where Sauron was shielding himself weren't completely leveled. Lol. Regardless, the lightning was sent by the Valar, Sauron's supposed superiors, to KILL Sauron, and it failed utterly.

Sauron is CLEARLY their equal at the very least, but his display of strength here is enough to place him above the Valar, combatively.

"Now the lightnings increased and slew men upon the hills, and in the fields, and in the streets of the city; and a fiery bolt smote the dome of the Temple and shore it asunder, and it was wreathed in flame. But the Temple itself was unshaken, and Sauron stood there upon the pinnacle and defied the lightning and was unharmed; and in that hour men called him a god and did all that he would."

and again, his spirit survived a direct strike from Iluvitar.

Pretty funny how Sauron the main villian of LOTR is just a wannabe Morgoth.

Anyway High tiers and beyond would destroy Sauron.

Originally posted by Haschwalth
Pretty funny how Sauron the main villian of LOTR is just a wannabe Morgoth. That actually is something I find legitimately funny, ngl.

Not often that the main villain is actually a wannabe. *cough*sequeltrilogy*cough*

Originally posted by darthbane77
That actually is something I find legitimately funny, ngl.

Not often that the main villain is actually a wannabe. *cough*sequeltrilogy*cough*
Yeah lel, goodluck with getting the sequel though :/

Originally posted by Haschwalth
Yeah lel, goodluck with getting the sequel though :/

http://i0.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/000/554/picard-facepalm.jpg

LOL.


That is...

Originally posted by Jmanghan
Is Shadow of Mordor canon to the LoTR universe?



Originally posted by Jmanghan
Huh?

I thought it was set hundreds and hundreds of years after RoTK??



...tier.

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Someone here will help you with that, Kurk.

It won't be me, though.

Originally posted by darthbane77
Regardless, the lightning was sent by the Valar, Sauron's supposed superiors, to KILL Sauron, and it failed utterly.

Sauron is CLEARLY their equal at the very least, but his display of strength here is enough to place him above the Valar, combatively.

"Now the lightnings increased and slew men upon the hills, and in the fields, and in the streets of the city; and a fiery bolt smote the dome of the Temple and shore it asunder, and it was wreathed in flame. But the Temple itself was unshaken, and Sauron stood there upon the pinnacle and defied the lightning and was unharmed; and in that hour men called him a god and did all that he would."

and again, his spirit survived a direct strike from Iluvitar.

Except it wasn't sent to kill Sauron... It was sent to punish the Numenoreans for their defiance.

You just made this claim... I just disproved the basis on which you made it. You have no evidence that that lightning bolt was directed at Sauron let alone meant to kill him.

No it didn't. The island sank because of Illuvatar. That has nothing to do with Sauron being able to survive or defend against an attack directed at him by Illuvatar. He managed to escape because he fled the sinking island when he no longer possessed a physical form. I.E. It's not difficult to survive on a sinking island when you can just fly back to Mordor as a spirit which is exactly what the text states he did.

I like how Darth Sauron started a versus thread.

Originally posted by Freedon Nadd
I like how Darth Sauron started a versus thread.

*thread of claims with no backing, like is usual for the majority of KMC

Tulkas would destroy Sauron tbh.

Originally posted by darthbane77
*thread of claims with no backing, like is usual for the majority of KMC

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