Heavy hitters ONLY ALLOWED

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Gadabout
Alright....
Who would you place at the top for the Greatest Brawler of comics Strongest. So characters such as Thing, Namor, She Hulk, Colossus, ect, ect are not allowed here. Also as not to exclude some of yall favorites-flight and speed is considered but only if these abilities are shown to be a consistent strategy of said character.

NO EXTERNAL POWER AMPS ALLOWED

Notables but not limited to:

Hercules (marvel)
Thor Odinson
Superman-boy-prime
Black Adam
WB Hulk
Orion
Darkseid
Kallark
Beta Ray
Wonder Women
Super girl
Champion

DarkSaint85
Flash, with an infinite mass.

carver9
Looking at on panel showings and not making up imaginary characters that doesn't exist, Hulk is numero uno.

Sin I AM
Invincible. No one listed holds a candle to him

celeyhyga17
Mangog and Doomsday

bluewaterrider
Originally posted by Gadabout
Alright....
Who would you place at the top for the Greatest Brawler of comics Strongest. So characters such as Thing, Namor, She Hulk, Colossus, ect, ect are not allowed here. Also as not to exclude some of yall favorites-flight and speed is considered but only if these abilities are shown to be a consistent strategy of said character.

NO EXTERNAL POWER AMPS ALLOWED

Notables ...

I'll more or less just re-order the list you have from greatest to least.
Probably provide the reason for these rankings in a subsequent post.

Darkseid (pre-Crisis)
Supergirl (pre-Crisis)
WorldBreaker Hulk
Darkseid (nu52)
Superman-boy-prime
Thor Odinson
Wonder Woman (nu52, natural, uncuffed)
Orion
Kallark (Marvel's Sh'iar Gladiator)
Black Adam
Beta Ray Bill
Hercules (marvel)
Champion (Marvel Comics)

Sin I AM
half those mentioned arent great brawlers

tru-marvell
Going by strictly total fighting ability...including flight and speed

1) Wonder Women

2) Black Adam

3) Gladiator

4) General Zod

5) Thor Odinson/ Beta Ray Bill

6) Hercules

7) Champion

8) Darkseid

Actually I would place WWHulk pretty high up perhaps just below WW

This list is not my who is strongest but who when using their complete ability to go "fist to cuffs" would be best per OP -imo

One Big Mob
Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Mangog and Doomsday It's this and Prime.

bluewaterrider
Originally posted by bluewaterrider
I'll ... re-order the list you have from greatest to least.

Darkseid (pre-Crisis)
Supergirl (pre-Crisis)
WorldBreaker Hulk
Darkseid (nu52)
Superman-boy-prime
Thor Odinson
Wonder Woman (nu52, natural, uncuffed)
Orion
Kallark (Marvel's Sh'iar Gladiator)
Black Adam
Beta Ray Bill
Hercules (marvel)
Champion (Marvel Comics)

Originally posted by Sin I AM
half those mentioned arent great brawlers

I disagree, obviously, so I'll illustrate the case for some of the choices I think you might be objecting to as time permits, starting with my #1 pick:


(Pre-Crisis Darkseid)

https://s7d1.turboimg.net/t1/37420014_image.jpg https://s7d1.turboimg.net/t1/37420015_image.jpg https://s7d1.turboimg.net/t1/37420016_image.jpg https://s7d1.turboimg.net/t1/37420017_image.jpg https://s7d1.turboimg.net/t1/37420018_image.jpg https://s7d1.turboimg.net/t1/37420019_image.jpg https://s7d1.turboimg.net/t1/37420020_image.jpg https://s7d1.turboimg.net/t1/37420021_image.jpg https://s7d1.turboimg.net/t1/37420022_image.jpg https://s7d1.turboimg.net/t1/37420023_image.jpg


Source: The Great Darkness Sage

Cable_Extreme
I would say probably Hunter/Prey Doomsday.

bluewaterrider
Pre-Crisis Supergirl
(versus Kryptonite Man, Part 1)


https://s7d2.turboimg.net/t1/37421051_image.jpg https://s7d2.turboimg.net/t1/37421052_image.jpg https://s7d2.turboimg.net/t1/37421053_image.jpg https://s7d2.turboimg.net/t1/37421055_image.jpg https://s7d2.turboimg.net/t1/37421056_image.jpg https://s7d2.turboimg.net/t1/37421057_image.jpg https://s7d2.turboimg.net/t1/37421060_image.jpg https://s7d2.turboimg.net/t1/37421061_image.jpg https://s7d2.turboimg.net/t1/37421063_image.jpg https://s7d2.turboimg.net/t1/37421064_image.jpg


Source: Daring New Adventures of Supergirl #21

bluewaterrider
Pre-Crisis Supergirl

(versus Kryptonite Man, part 2)


https://s7d3.turboimg.net/t1/37421882_image.jpg https://s7d3.turboimg.net/t1/37421883_image.jpg https://s7d3.turboimg.net/t1/37421884_image.jpg https://s7d3.turboimg.net/t1/37421885_image.jpg https://s7d3.turboimg.net/t1/37421887_image.jpg https://s7d3.turboimg.net/t1/37421888_image.jpg https://s7d3.turboimg.net/t1/37421889_image.jpg

bluewaterrider
Pre-Crisis Supergirl
(versus AntiMonitor)


This may seem a strange choice to fans.
Wasn't the AntiMonitor the one who eventually killed Supergirl?

Yes.

But to get to that point she essentially had to be depowered by translation into an anti-matter universe. And still brilliantly handled living, constantly-reforming stone constructs, and engaged the Anti-Monitor with far greater success than her cousin, and ALMOST put an end to the greatest threat then DCU had ever known:



https://s7d5.turboimg.net/t1/37423203_image.jpg https://s7d5.turboimg.net/t1/37423204_image.jpg https://s7d5.turboimg.net/t1/37423205_image.jpg https://s7d5.turboimg.net/t1/37423208_image.jpg https://s7d5.turboimg.net/t1/37423209_image.jpg https://s7d5.turboimg.net/t1/37423210_image.jpg https://s7d5.turboimg.net/t1/37423211_image.jpg https://s7d5.turboimg.net/t1/37423212_image.jpg https://s7d5.turboimg.net/t1/37423213_image.jpg https://s7d5.turboimg.net/t1/37423215_image.jpg

Source: Infinite Crisis #7

Now of course AT the crucial moment of the last scan Kimiyo will choose to cry and say
"No, I've got to stay and help you!" and distract Kara getting her to turn away before she can finish AM, but, until this point, the fight is widely regarded as Kara's to lose. Were you to read the following page, you would find even the Anti-Monitor seemingly agrees.

Anyway, Kara's success against opponents that handled her cousin in the same engagement (Kryptonite Man, Super Constructs, Anti-Monitor) are why I place her above even pre-Crisis Superman on this list.

bluewaterrider
Above message and this one were edited because of a mistake made in listing the URLs for the scans.

xJLxKing
Prime
Mangog
DD

Cable_Extreme
Mangog is the clear choice for Marvel, especially consuming Destroyer armor.

Hunter/Prey Doomsday beating Darkseid (Confirmed not a clone) in a few panels is another great feat. It is between those two imo.

Leaning towards Mangog in sheer destructive capability though.

tru-marvell
I don't agree with DD and Mangog being listed here

Aside from their extremely high durability what "brawling" feats have they shown?

Cable_Extreme
Originally posted by tru-marvell
I don't agree with DD and Mangog being listed here

Aside from their extremely high durability what "brawling" feats have they shown?

Doomsday beat the shiz out of Darkseid in just a few hits and dragged him off panel.

tru-marvell
Well put it this way....
If their physical stats were equal and it came down to pure melee skill, who would win?

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