Silent Master versus Josh Alexander

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Silent Master
Battlezone is about which is more powerful a punch from movie Juggernaut or a Charged Hammer shot from MCU Thor.

Is anyone interested in being a judge?

BruceSkywalker
I would be happy to judge

DarkSaint85
Same

Bentley
Count me in.

Silent Master
Thanks guys, I'm ready to go now so whenever Josh says he's ready we can do this.

Josh_Alexander
Originally posted by Silent Master
Battlezone is about which is more powerful a punch from movie Juggernaut or a Charged Hammer shot from MCU Thor.

Is anyone interested in being a judge?

Correction Mr.Silent i never said a Juggernaut punch is more powerful than a charged Mjolnir.

I said that the impact force of a Juggernaut is a comparable feat to getting striked by a charged Mjolnir.

Also i havent got time to go over the rules of this forum, give me time to do so.

Josh_Alexander
Originally posted by Silent Master
Thanks guys, I'm ready to go now so whenever Josh says he's ready we can do this.

I've read a bit about this forum and it seems like it's a very time-consuming one. I don't have time for this.

Also, the topic we are discussing isn't as relevant as to take it to a Battlezone.

I pass, lets discuss this in the MvF if you like.

Silent Master
Since I already did the research, took less than 5 mintues.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rsHASg-WkPg

46 second mark, A charged hammer strike levels a large area in Jotunheim

3:22 mark, The shockwave from a chared hammer strike levels multiple trees

7:54 mark, Shockwave from a charged hammer strike destroys a tank.

9:03 mark Charged hammer shot in Sokovia

Now, to be as fair as possible. let's say The charged hammer strikes in Sokovia and Jotunheim are only responsible for 1% of the damage. lets now take a look at Juggernauts punches.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LDV97LZb7y4

49 second mark. doesn't even ko Wolverine. a guy who at this point in the movies was getting ko'd by bullets to the head and being hit by a tree swung by Sabretooth. which btw, only sent Wolverine flying a short distance. something Captain America has done to armored soliders with just regular punches.

Or looking at the extended cut of that scene

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eTFCek9iRqE

34 second mark

1:10 minute mark

1:19 minute mark

Same deal, doesn't send Wolverine flying or ko him.

Josh_Alexander
Originally posted by Silent Master
Since I already did the research, took less than 5 mintues.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rsHASg-WkPg

46 second mark, A charged hammer strike levels a large area in Jotunheim

3:22 mark, The shockwave from a chared hammer strike levels multiple trees

7:54 mark, Shockwave from a charged hammer strike destroys a tank.

9:03 mark Charged hammer shot in Sokovia

Now, to be as fair as possible. let's say The charged hammer strikes in Sokovia and Jotunheim are only responsible for 1% of the damage. lets now take a look at Juggernauts punches.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LDV97LZb7y4

49 second mark. doesn't even ko Wolverine. a guy who at this point in the movies was getting ko'd by bullets to the head and being hit by a tree swung by Sabretooth. which btw, only sent Wolverine flying a short distance. something Captain America has done to armored soliders with just regular punches.

Or looking at the extended cut of that scene

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eTFCek9iRqE

34 second mark

1:10 minute mark

1:19 minute mark

Same deal, doesn't send Wolverine flying or ko him.

My bad, i just realized the hammer was never charged when it striked the Vibranium Shield!!! laughing out loud

I guess, there is a mistake in the discussion here. Thor never summoned the lightning in the scene, which means the hammer was never charged.

Sorry, i realized until now while watching the clips.

Silent Master
Lighting was involved in every scene I marked.

Josh_Alexander
Originally posted by Silent Master
Lighting was involved in every scene I marked. \

Not in the scene where Thor impacted Cap's shield.

So the feat ain't a charged hammer. I thought i was, and was refering to that scene in the Wolverine vs Killmonger thread. Now that i rewatch it is clear that it was just a normal hammer strike.

So, i guess it's useless to argue Juggernaut's power vs Charged hammer.

Silent Master
Yes, it was. the vid clearly shows lightning involved in all 4 of the scenes I provided a timestamp for.

However since you are trying to refute my evidence, that means the BZ has been started. it's now up to the judges.

Josh_Alexander
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xjeesefsjuI

Minute 4.

Thor never charged the hammer.

I have no business to pursue here anymore.

Silent Master
You can clearly see lighting when Mjolnir hits the shield. but thank you for posting more proof that I was right.


https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/marvelmovies/images/6/6e/MjolnirVsVibranium-Avengers.png/revision/latest/scale-to-width-down/1280?cb=20140201080303

quanchi112
laughing out loud

Damborgson
Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
I've read a bit about this forum and it seems like it's a very time-consuming one. I don't have time for this.

Also, the topic we are discussing isn't as relevant as to take it to a Battlezone.

I pass, lets discuss this in the MvF if you like.

https://media1.tenor.com/images/2701958dc64e0e895f3eacecf7d175f0/tenor.gif

stick out tongue

One Big Mob
You should have stayed silent when you challenged the master

Facee
KMC stock just plummeted with this bz.

quanchi112
Originally posted by Facee
KMC stock just plummeted with this bz. thumb up

Josh_Alexander
The only reason am replying to this post is to clarify why i didn't accepted SilentMaster's challenge. Also because I have challenged quanchi to a BZ and now he is using this to try run (You know how pathetic he is)

Reasons why i rejected SM's BZ challenge:

1. Subject debated isn't valid:

- The original statement was whether Juggernaut's punch could be compared with charged Mjolnir impact. However, the scene being debated between me and SilentMaster didn't contain/depicted a charged Mjolnir impact! Therefore, the parameters of this BZ was irrelevant.

2. Character limitations:

- By that time, Juggernaut only had 1 movie depiction. X-Men 3. There were too many character limitations for him. There were limited evidence to support the case, and most of it would have relied on speculations and limited movie portrayal. Clearly not a subject for a BZ, reason why i told SM to remain in the MVF.

3. Personal issues:

- At the time I was alien to this forum (Didn't know the rules/guidelines and forum format). I also had limited time.


Having said this, thread closed.

After reading this thread's guidelines, informing myself on the format of this thread. Having plenty of time and choosing a more appropiate thread topic, I challenge quanchi.

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