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Barda stomps. Better gear, better fighter, stronger, more durable

Barda is stronger than Captain Marvel?

GTFO

Originally posted by abhilegend
Barda is stronger than Captain Marvel?

GTFO

What strength feats does Carol have that place her over Barda?..and even if she doea hace one or two outliers Barda is still better equipped with the MB, a better fighter, more ruthless, better damage soak etc

That's Billy as Cap.

Not in the pic...

What

abhi is having a crisis...an existential one at that

It's like watching a train wreck. It's horrific and awe inspiring at the same time.

Now this was Captain Marvel Carol with Binary strength level, then we are talking about a whole new ball game, but since it's not Barda wins every time. Now if it was sersi, meggan, she hulk o r Red she hulk or snow bird we are talking about a real fight.

Barda

Is Barda really that strong? Cap is pretty strong herself. Plus flying and whatnot.

Ms Marvel has sucked massively until she got her lesbo hair. Now she's apparently more powerful than Blue Marvel, and can solo Thanos.

Right before the scissors touched her hair - Barda
The second the hair cut was done - Captain Marvel

Originally posted by Damborgson
Is Barda really that strong? Cap is pretty strong herself. Plus flying and whatnot. she's fought evenly with Wonder woman, downed Superman, and had the upper hand against knockout, and beat up lobo iirc. They're worlds apart tbh.

I think she thrashed WW 1M too.

Think she cheated with a BFG though

Originally posted by Damborgson
Is Barda really that strong? Cap is pretty strong herself. Plus flying and whatnot. Barda is roughly Wonder Woman level. Probably the most underrated woman in DC.

To give you an idea, here's Barda's introduction into Darkseid War:

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Here she is against Thor:

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Here she is against Wonder Woman:

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Just from that she should be able to manhandle Cap.

But narration said Carol is the mightiest hero on Marvel Earth!!!

She scales off of Hulk!11

Sidenote, when did Barda turn good again? As we saw in Earth 2 she turned on Mr.Miracle and rejoined Darkseid. Mr.Miracle even dumped her and got together with Fury.

For the life of me cant think of when they explained when she turned back and they got together again

Originally posted by -K-M-
Sidenote, when did Barda turn good again? As we saw in Earth 2 she turned on Mr.Miracle and rejoined Darkseid. Mr.Miracle even dumped her and got together with Fury.

For the life of me cant think of when they explained when she turned back and they got together again comic continuity bro. Take it all in stride and never expect all of the stories to be consistent.

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I'm curious how this would go. Barda at her peak is Wonder Woman level. Captain Marvel at her peak is an elite as well, maybe slightly beyond if you drink the feminist koolaid at Marvel.

Originally posted by -K-M-
Sidenote, when did Barda turn good again? As we saw in Earth 2 she turned on Mr.Miracle and rejoined Darkseid. Mr.Miracle even dumped her and got together with Fury.

For the life of me cant think of when they explained when she turned back and they got together again Steppenwolf is still alive in Darkseid War, too.

If you want a continuity explanation, Earth 2 Darkseid/his army were just emanations, as said in Multiversity.

Im not sure if the current Miracle book is in continuity or not but her and scott are married and just had the first born of both New Genesis and Apokalips...plus Scott is now Highfather

Originally posted by Sin I AM
Im not sure if the current Miracle book is in continuity or not but her and scott are married and just had the first born of both New Genesis and Apokalips...plus Scott is now Highfather It's telegraphed so hard, that I don't think I'm spoiling the book if I say this. But I'm positive Scot is currently inside the Omega Sanction, tortured by Darkseid. Expect that to be revealed.

Darkseid is.

Big Barda apparently has enough fire power to kill Superman. How does she lose this fight?

Love Barda. She wins.

Barda isn't Wonder Woman level since she lost against her.

Originally posted by carver9
Barda isn't Wonder Woman level since she lost against her.

Barda held her own against WW through the whole fight, Carver. Wonder Woman got the advantage by flying, if we are talking about the same fight.

Only women that can give Barda a fight from would be Gamora, and giver her matching strength that would be a awesome battle.

Good to see you posting Darkone

Originally posted by Tzeentch
Comic book dialogue makes pro-wrestling look sophisticated. Jesus christ hey Tzeentch. How's it going you old bird?

Originally posted by the Darkone
Only women that can give Barda a fight from would be Gamora, and giver her matching strength that would be a awesome battle.
I can't agree to that. Carol clowned Gamora pretty hard. She was trying to talk Gamora down too, and didn't want to fight.

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Then Carol just stopped fighting because she felt bad for fighting a friend.
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Even with a particularly generous reading though, Carol is > Gamora. If Barda takes Carol, Gamora should logically fare much worse.

Did they actually give Carol an on panel powerup, or is she just receiving very favorable writing that turns into a permanent powerup?

With all her gear/tech? Barda.

Originally posted by One Big Mob
Did they actually give Carol an on panel powerup, or is she just receiving very favorable writing that turns into a permanent powerup?
More favorable statements than feats.

Originally posted by Tzeentch
Comic book dialogue makes pro-wrestling look sophisticated. Jesus christ
Shitty comics, yeah. The nature of battleboards means we have to regard the shit just as highly as the gems sadly.
Originally posted by One Big Mob
Did they actually give Carol an on panel powerup, or is she just receiving very favorable writing that turns into a permanent powerup?
Originally posted by celeyhyga17
More favorable statements than feats.
Bingo. Carol's "upgrade" is that she gets tons of screen time, probably in preparation for her movie. She hasn't actually done anything but get lipservice about powerful and amazing she is.

At this point, I hope Carol gets upgraded. It'd at least make sense when people gush over her. At least Jane has feats backing her.

Originally posted by One Big Mob
Did they actually give Carol an on panel powerup, or is she just receiving very favorable writing that turns into a permanent powerup?


she's done nothing, i liked her better as ms marvel

She dusted Tony's prepped armor.

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but her limits are clear.

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That was when she still had somewhat long hair.

Once Ewing got his grubby mitts on Carol is when she seemed to change in power. Then Bendis followed suit. Then even Ewing was like "woah, is that the type of message I'm trying to send? I better dial this back."

Under Ewing she's more powerful than Blue Marvel. Bendis Ms Marvel is more powerful.
Anything before that was a seemingly weaker form.

Tbf everyone dusts Tony with prep

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Tbf everyone dusts Tony with prep


pretty much...he doesnt get mcu love in comics

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Tbf everyone dusts Tony with prep he seems to do better when he doesn't have prep tbh.

She didn't even use Binary against big suit Tony and she trashed him that entire fight. All she prepped against was the one blast. That was complete shit

well CW2 was complete shit

I don't put much stock into the Iron Man thing. In that same dumb arc, Tony got smacked around by Karnak and Black Panther, who restrained him somehow.

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It's not the "prepped" suit, but if he is that shitty normally, it's totally possible his amped suit is barely Carol level, and she absorbs energy, making her a bit problematic for him. Also, Bendis.

Outside of this, she punched an already weakened and battered Thanos, while being amped by Blue Marvel. And split an asteroid. I'm just not seeing the upgrades here tbh. We could argue a mild increase to her base strength before absorbing anything I guess.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Tbf everyone dusts Tony with prep

True enough

As for Barda, if we wanted to explore a case for Carol, I think it would hinge upon her ranged abilities. If she really pours on the ranged energy assault like against Tony at times, she might make the fight competitive.

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Thanks for the in depth replies, KMCers.

Originally posted by Damborgson
She dusted Tony's prepped armor.

https://comicnewbies.files.wordpress.com/2017/01/captain-marvel-beats-iron-man-civil-war-ii-7.jpg

but her limits are clear.

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That was when she was more feminine and had longer hair. She's the reverse Sampson. Before, she needed large amounts of energy to push her into top tier, like a Nuke or a black hole/white hole (Aka Binary), but now she's walking around at Top Tier levels apparently.

I think the more of a lesbian she becomes, the greater she grows in power.

And Hulk could easily dust Barda in hand to hand like that on a good day so it's not really relevant.

Originally posted by StyleTime
As for Barda, if we wanted to explore a case for Carol, I think it would hinge upon her ranged abilities. If she really pours on the ranged energy assault like against Tony at times, she might make the fight competitive.

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https://postimg.org/image/uklag7pn9/ Barda's Mega Rod has withstood and deflected Grail's Omega Beams . There's also the motherbox, and depending on how much leeway you want to give Barda in its use of it, it would nullify basically everything.

Yeah, Barda is basically a better fighter, with better gear. She wins the high majority.

Nothing happens when I try and quote Phil for some reason.

Anyways, yeah. I was just trying to throw Carol whatever bone I could think of. If she can amp off the mega rod, she might make things interesting. But that is about the extent of that argument.

Mother box in full effect makes that moot of course.

Originally posted by StyleTime
I don't put much stock into the Iron Man thing. In that same dumb arc, Tony got smacked around by Karnak and Black Panther, who restrained him somehow.

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It's not the "prepped" suit, but if he is that shitty normally, it's totally possible his amped suit is barely Carol level, and she absorbs energy, making her a bit problematic for him. Also, Bendis.

Outside of this, she punched an already weakened and battered Thanos, while being amped by Blue Marvel. And split an asteroid. I'm just not seeing the upgrades here tbh. We could argue a mild increase to her base strength before absorbing anything I guess.


Don't really see the big bump in power.

She did have one high end showing that I recall. Shared, but pretty uber.
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Other than that, nothing really eye popping.