THE NATHEMA CONSPIRACY - Codex Entries

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DarthAnt66
Zildrog
The ancient mechanical entity known as Zildrog has always operated from behind the scenes. Unlike the other "machine gods" of Iokath, Zildrog permanently functions in two forms.The first is a central computer that specializes in the transfer of life energies. Given this device's presence on Nathema, it is likely that Zildrog was a key element of the original ritual Tenebrae used to empower himself at the cost of all life on the planet. Beyond that first atrocity, however, Zildrog's central mind appears to have played no role in Tenebrae's dual life as Vitiate and Valkorion, and slumbered in stasis mode until Vinn Atrius discovered it many years later.

The second of Zildrog's forms is the ancient warship known as the Gravestone. Though it can be operated by an organic crew when required, the vessel's Dark Heart functions as a remote command core that allows Zildrog to control the ship as an extension of itself. Ancient Zakuulan myths often confuse or conflate Zildrog and Izax, likely because both entities are aerial platforms employing omnicannon technology. Given the many differences in their construction and operation, it seems likely that they were actually built entirely separately--perhaps even as rival projects carried out in Iokath's endless pursuit of better and deadlier weapons.

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Eternal Alliance - State of the Galaxy
News of the near-total destruction of the Eternal Alliance fleet has spread quickly, leading to renewed fears of a reignited war between the Galactic Republic and Sith Empire. Both factions have reportedly redoubled their efforts to hoard supplies, munitions, and fuel in anticipation of renewed hostilities. Resource shortages, already a common occurrence on many core worlds, are becoming a daily reality across the galaxy at large.

With no single unifying threat to motivate their continued cooperation, these tensions have led many of the Alliance's forces to return to their original sides of the age-old conflict, rejoining their longtime allies and waiting with grim certainty for the war to begin anew.

A hardened force of dedicated troops and staff still maintains the Alliance base on Odessen, however, and a small fleet still patrols Wild Space on their behalf. The Commander's closest allies remain loyal to the leader who helped unite them during one of the galaxy's darkest times--whatever path the Commander chooses next, they will most certainly follow, potentially tipping the scales of any conflict....

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Zealots Without a Master
The few surviving Zealots who once served Valkorion in his Nathema stronghold now eke out a bleak existence in the planet's abandoned wilds, where they live in fragmented tribes.

Although each and every one of the Zealots felt Valkorion's death vividly through the Force, all of them refuse to believe that it has actually occurred. Wild and improbable theories about his current state of existence and how best to continue serving him have driven the zealots into forming rival, warring groups who raid and kill one another interminably.

Ironically, all of the Zealots still alive owe their survival to their master's death and the subsequent blooming of life on the planet's once-barren surface; otherwise, they would all have starved long ago.

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Nathema Reborn
The ecological revitalization of Nathema has been nothing short of miraculous. Vibrant plant life has not only taken root but flourished, dramatically altering the planet's once-desolate landscape.

Force-users no longer experience the unsettling "wrongness" that they once felt whenever setting foot on the planet. The air has become fresher, and the weather more dynamic. That this has all occurred since the death of Valkorion cannot be a coincidence, though experts cannot agree on any precise environmental mechanism that could have brought about such an abrupt change.

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Abandoned Listening Post
This Imperial deep space installation was once capable of intercepting and decrypting a staggering volume of enemy communications. Its existence and location were highly classified.

After the dissolution of Imperial Intelligence, the station's staff was relocated and never replaced, and the station itself was forgotten, a victim of the secrecy that once protected it--there was no one left who knew that it needed to be staffed in the first place.

Sensors have detected energy signatures from the station's equipment that do not match any known Imperial technology, likely the result of modifications made by the station's mysterious new occupants. The original source, purpose, and capabilities of these modifications are unknown.

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The Order of Zildrog
Formed by Vinn Atrius, the Order of Zildrog is highly secretive, militantly organized, and ruthlessly dedicated to a single purpose: the death of the Outlander who now commands the Eternal Alliance.

The group's membership is mostly made up of Zakuulan hardliners like Atrius who blame the Outlander for destroying the civilization that Valkorion built for them. Their numbers include Knights and soldiers from the Zakuulan military, cultists from fringe groups like the Heralds of Zildrog, and even a handful of individuals from the Core Worlds with personal vendettas of their own.

Unified by their singular hatred and the countless lives they've seen ruined in the Outlander's wake, the Order will stop at nothing to complete their mission of vengeance.

Geistalt
So Vitiate did Ziost without the ritual.

DarthAnt66
This makes Revan's creation of the thought bomb way more impressive. mmm

Azronger
Originally posted by Geistalt
So Vitiate did Ziost without the ritual.

???

Geistalt
Don't worry, though; Sidious is still the GoAT. Any feat for Vitiate just makes him more impressive.

Azronger
Yeah, so how does that prove he didn't use a ritual?

Geistalt
It suggests that if he did use a ritual, it wasn't the Ritual of Nathema. Because the Nathema one used Zildrog.

Azronger
That proves he didn't use the ritual of Nathema. It doesn't prove he didn't use a ritual in general.

Geistalt
Also, the burden of proof is yours to prove that there was a ritual on Ziost.

Nephthys
I think it's evidence against him using a ritual, though as Geistalt says the burden really isn't on anyone to prove it wasn't one.

Azronger
I haven't claimed he used a ritual in this thread, so the burden on me is to prove jack shit. You were the very first person here to make a definitive claim. Now prove to me Vitiate did Ziost under his own power

Geistalt
Yeah; it's ridiculous that Az wants me to prove there wasn't one.

Nothing says there was one.

Azronger
Nothing also says Vitiate did it under his own power.

It doesn't feel nice when your own logic gets flipped back at you, does it?

DarthAnt66
Originally posted by Azronger
I haven't claimed he used a ritual in this thread, so the burden on me is to prove jack shit. You were the very first person here to make a definitive claim. Now prove to me Vitiate did Ziost under his own power
Geis' point is that the most compelling reason why it could be a ritual is now gone.

Now there's literally no evidence / indication / reference that it could have been a ritual --

-- so the default position is that it was not a ritual. smile

It would be like saying Sheev raising the SSD is a ritual because nothing says otherwise.

Geistalt
Az is retarded, because any feat for Vitiate just makes Sidious stronger / more impressive by extension (thanks to the quotes as recent as 2015 that make Sidious the most powerful Sith).

XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
No.

Geistalt
To what?

XSUPREMEXSKILLZ

Freedon Nadd
Originally posted by Geistalt
Az is retarded, because any feat for Vitiate just makes Sidious stronger / more impressive by extension (thanks to the quotes as recent as 2015 that make Sidious the most powerful Sith).

Palpatine's feats remain the same.

But it's damn impressive how one can humiliate and still applaud Azronger for his retardness. laughing out loud

AncientPower
So Vitiate's mere existence caused the void on Nathema to pervade.

S_W_LeGenD
So Valkorion prolonged/maintained the apocalyptic conditions of Medriaas with his mere presence from lightyears distance? Incredibly impressive. This blows Palpatine's Byss showing out of water.

And Valkorion ruined Ziost with his own power. Why this even a debate? It is clearly implied that Valkorion was becoming stronger by the hour by drawing strength from deaths and chaos.

S_W_LeGenD
Originally posted by Geistalt
Don't worry, though; Sidious is still the GoAT. Any feat for Vitiate just makes him more impressive.
No it doesn't.

Sith Emperor was just a Voice; it is like ignoring half of Valkorions's power and footprint. Valkorion is an entity.

Freedon Nadd
Vitiate>Exar Kun>Darth Sidious

Total Warrior

Haschwalth
just more evidence, with satele's statement on Valkorion's deaths, effects on the force.

AncientPower
This actually backs up that Vitiate became a manifestation of the void, well beyond just a generic dark side entity. The void's existence being integrally linked to his own. He's not just dark side, he's even worse than Nihilus.

S_W_LeGenD
Originally posted by AncientPower
This actually backs up that Vitiate became a manifestation of the void, well beyond just a generic dark side entity. The void's existence being integrally linked to his own. He's not just dark side, he's even worse than Nihilus.
Good observation thumb up

Revan; Tol Braga; and Lord Scourge - each felt the sheer emptiness (void) inside Valkorion's (Sith Emperor) Voice when it allowed them to see through it. Lord Scourge had a minor brush but the other two weren't as lucky - both were driven to madness consequently.

The void is more alarming than the imbalance stuff, IMO. Creating a hole in the Force and sustaining it for ages is something else entirely - it suggests a whole new level of EVIL and capability. Valkorion could have significantly expanded it with his Galaxy-busting move during the era of Great Galactic War but it was foiled in time.

Nathema event culminated into the largest nexus of Dark Side energy across the galaxy (ever) - I suspect a major imbalancing at this point - but the nexus eventually subsided over time. Although Revan hinted that the Force was out of balance even in his time. The void was the real deal through it all.

S_W_LeGenD
Originally posted by DarthAnt66
This makes Revan's creation of the thought bomb way more impressive. mmm
Darth Bane disagree with you. He saw in thought bomb a manageable feat but he perceived Nathema way out of his league and something that even a true Sith Lord would not dare to replicate.

If Zildrog has a role in Nathema as in its firepower was brought to bear during the ritual - Vitiate was still the sole survivor and beneficiary of the deed. This brings to our attention the shock factor of Meetra Surik when she learned about this event and completed her research. Vitiate being strong enough to tank a superweapon back then, is strongly implied.

Revan does benefit from all this. I have entertained the idea of Revan being firmly above any Jedi and/or Sith as of Shadow of Revan on his own. Your reluctance is a sign of weakness.

DarthAnt66
Oh please.

Nathema can hardly even be considered a Sith ritual. Tenebrae grabbed a world-consuming superweapon entity, turned it on, then allowed it to destroy all life on Nathema (including 8,000 Sith Lords) as it powered himself - which it has the ability to do.

It's frankly a less impressive ritual than Revan's Temple of Sacrifice ritual, since at least Revan had to do most of the work himself rather than turn on a hyper-intelligent robot designed to consume worlds.

Worse yet, Revan apparently knows rituals that can planet-wipe without need of any technology nor followers, as indicated by the Forgotten Terrace fight. As for the thought bomb, Revan somehow studied the effects of a superweapon and then made a miniature, Force-user powered version of it that yielded the greatest Force nexus ever (more so than Nathema).

As for Bane, there is no indication he considered Nathema more potent than the thought bomb. He probably scratched his head because one of the required items to conduct the ritual was "potentially galactic-destroying supreme AI intelligence superweapon."

I have no clue why you took this as an insult on Vitiate either - you should want him needing a superweapon to do this. It shows his immeasurable growth from needing a literal deity to cleanse a world to being able to do it himself while weakened on Ziost.

DarthAnt66
Let Nathema fall for Ziost to rise. thumb up

FreshestSlice
Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
No it doesn't.

Sith Emperor was just a Voice; it is like ignoring half of Valkorions's power and footprint. Valkorion is an entity.
Do you have a source for this?

Freedon Nadd
Originally posted by AncientPower
This actually backs up that Vitiate became a manifestation of the void, well beyond just a generic dark side entity. The void's existence being integrally linked to his own. He's not just dark side, he's even worse than Nihilus.

Where does it say that?
Even if it does.

It just shows that Vitiate became a Wound in the Force. That's all.

Wounds are also called 'holes' in KotOR II.

DarthAnt66
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DarthAnt66
So:

- Servant One talks to the Hero of Tython

- Darth Baras talks to the LS Emperor's Wrath
- Darth Ravage talks to the DS Emperor's Wrath

- Darth Zash talks to the Darth Nox that saved Khem Val, revealing she essence transferred herself into a new body
- Khem Val talks to the Darth Nox that saved Darth Zash, revealing he "clawed" his way out of the prison

- Sophia Farash, a Child of the Emperor, talks to the LS Barsen'thor
- Bela Kiwiiks, still a Jedi Master, talks to the DS Barsen'thor

Whoever talks to you is revealed to be among the many sacrificed and killed for the awakening of Zildrog.

Darth Mortis is also imprisoned and sacrificed for Zildrog.

Freedon Nadd
Very impressive. Vitiate got a mythological hype. Didn't see that with Sidious. 👉🏻✌🏻 🤙🏻🤟🏻👍🏻

Selenial
Originally posted by DarthAnt66
- Bela Kiwiiks, still a Jedi Master, talks to the DS Barsen'thor

Pretty sure that was the dark side HOT, Kiwiiks was a primary character in the knight storyline not the consular one.

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