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No bfr. who will win

Darkseid, with relative ease.

HAHAHAHA

but if HP doomsday stomped him, dont you think juggernaut has some chance? at least a chance to make it interesting? i know its hard to imagine the "highscool bully" juggernaut, doing damage to a threat like darkseid. however lets look at feats and stats. forget about the fact juggernaut is a complete dumbass. dont you believe he can make it a fight?

Juggernaut curbstomps. Just like HP Doomsday did, but this time it's worse in every way.

Darkseid wins easily, as we've already seen.. and lmaooo at comparing Juggernaut to Doomsday...

Originally posted by panthergod
Darkseid wins easily, as we've already seen.. and lmaooo at comparing Juggernaut to Doomsday...

How does Seid stops Juggs?

Punch him? Blast him? Use telepathy?

Originally posted by abhilegend
Punch him? Blast him? Use telepathy?

So, you're ignorant as usual. Current Juggernaut is stronger than Cyttorak:

https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/vsbattles/images/7/71/RCO008_1469321089.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20170828230535

"He gave me exactly what you asked for power... More power than he's ever given anyone, enough to kill even him."

And post ANY instances of Juggs getting killed from simply brute force, because i don't recall any besides celestial amped Hulk stomping him but wasn't permanently. helmet blocks telepathy, that's common sense 101

He's not stronger than C. He has enough power to potentially kill C, but nowhere it says he's stronger than him.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
He's not stronger than C. He has enough power to potentially kill C, but nowhere it says he's stronger than him.

Ok, i'll repeat it again

""He gave me exactly what you asked for power... More power than he's ever given anyone, enough to kill even him.""

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
but nowhere it says he's stronger than him.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW


right because someone stating that he was GIVEN more power to even kill him isn't totally an indication of superiority.

Darkseid already dominated Magneto, Juggernaut and the rest of the brotherhood of evil mutants on panel like insects during Unlimited Access #4.

Cyttorak is like a delivery truck. Bigger, stronger, faster than Juggernaut. But even in that instance Juggernaut was still able to damage the truck, though ultimately lose.

The ability to damage the truck shows that Juggernaut could potentially take it out had the truck not been fighting back, but the showing proved the truck was still above him.

Cyttorak much like the truck was shown to be far above Juggernaut by giving him powers or by trapping him, but in both cases Juggernaut was stated or shown to be capable of killing them.

Cyttorak is truck level while Juggernaut is Ford Fiesta level. The capability to total the truck is not a higher power level
If that helps explain it.


Darkseid is planet level though. I don't know how many Ford Fiestas you'd need to destroy the planet but I'm betting it's more than 143.

Originally posted by Sensui
Darkseid already dominated Magneto, Juggernaut and the rest of the brotherhood of evil mutants on panel like insects during Unlimited Access #4.

using non canon crossovers, eh?

Originally posted by Baziemarc123
right because someone stating that he was GIVEN more power to even kill him isn't totally an indication of superiority.

More power than he's ever given anyone, which is correct.

Not more power than he himself possesses.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
More power than he's ever given anyone, which is correct.

Not more power than he himself possesses.

what's your definition of "enough power to even kill him?"

I gave you a nice example. Even someone completely powerless is capable of killing low meta characters.

Don't play dumb.

Also...

Originally posted by One Big Mob
Cyttorak is truck level while Juggernaut is Ford Fiesta level. The capability to total the truck is not a higher power level
If that helps explain it.

Originally posted by Dareangel
but if HP doomsday stomped him, dont you think juggernaut has some chance?

Saying that implies that the Juggernaut in this thread is on the same level as H/P Doomsday. Is he?

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
I gave you a nice example. Even someone completely powerless is capable of killing low meta characters.

Don't play dumb.

So if someone gave me enough power to beat him in strength, that still means i'm Inferior by YOUR logic?

Can you stop trolling for a sec?

Being an obvious sock is bad enough, don't add trolling to the mix.

Nobody agrees with you on the matter.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Can you stop trolling for a sec?

Being an obvious sock is bad enough, don't add trolling to the mix.

Nobody agrees with you on the matter.

No one's actually trolling.

We know Juggs has been upgraded due to him being immune to his previous weaknesses in that issue

Oh, he's been upgraded - nobody's arguing that.

But don't expect me or anyone else from this site to believe he has actually become more powerful than Cyttorak.

Being able to kill Cyttorak does not necessarily mean he is more powerful than Cyttorak, ffs.

Here's a visual of Juggs vs Cyttorak if everything goes according to plan

http://www.truckaccidentlaw.org/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/PA-truck-accident-July-5-2010-001.jpg


But look who's coming to the battlefield, it's planet Darkseid!
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/67/7e/03/677e03459553c41161d5a52ed89256c0.jpg

A car can not take out a planet I think.

Juggs is immune to physical force. Darkseid "punching" him isn't going to finish it

so what feats does this new juggs have?

Originally posted by leonidas
so what feats does this new juggs have?

His first appearance was good. Sorta, still got BFR'd by Colossus.

Let's not talk about the rest of his showings, okay?

Originally posted by leonidas
so what feats does this new juggs have? https://www.featurepics.com/StockImage/20070708/white-delivery-truck-stock-photo-373536.jpg

Originally posted by Baziemarc123
So, you're ignorant as usual. Current Juggernaut is stronger than Cyttorak:

https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/vsbattles/images/7/71/RCO008_1469321089.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20170828230535

"He gave me exactly what you asked for power... More power than he's ever given anyone, enough to kill even him."

And post ANY instances of Juggs getting killed from simply brute force, because i don't recall any besides celestial amped Hulk stomping him but wasn't permanently. helmet blocks telepathy, that's common sense 101
Right, that's why he lost to small demons from Cyttorak who sealed him in his own armor. Or Iceman. Or deadpool.

Obviously these are more powerful than Cyttorak too.

Or O5 Beast...

And I'm sure the list is just getting started... damn you, Disney...

Originally posted by Sensui
Darkseid already dominated Magneto, Juggernaut and the rest of the brotherhood of evil mutants on panel like insects during Unlimited Access #4.

first of all suddenly crossovers do count? i find it funny how people like to use crossovers only when its convenient to them. secondly, in that issue darkseid didnt dominate juggernaut. darkseid teleported juggernaut to him. then after juggernaut got mad at darkseid and was trying to attack him, darkseid teleported juggernaut back to earth. thats about it.

Originally posted by -Pr-
Saying that implies that the Juggernaut in this thread is on the same level as H/P Doomsday. Is he?

not exactly. i didnt say if hp doomsday did it then jugegrnaut can also. notice i said "has a chance". the purpose was to portray a situation where a brick was able to do so. therefor, my intention was to tell people, dont say darkseid stomps just because juggernaut is a brick and its hard to portray in our minds a brick beating someone with powers like darkseid.

Originally posted by leonidas
so what feats does this new juggs have?

first showing vs colossus good. sent him flying thru trees with a punch. got bfr but who cares. next showing was bad ass until dragged to some other dimension or something like that by demons, making him scream of fear like a kid. next showins contained by ice mans ice and again, dragged by demons making him scream like a kid. recent showing was stuck to a wall by a cement truck. as of right now, he became like instantly from potentially the strongest version of juggernaut to the weakest. thats because of lazy writers who dont give a crap about him or his powers. we will see him fighting thor in thor #1 which will come out on june. the preview panels show him as a bad ass actually beating thor while thor cant really damage him. i hope its finally a wake up call to the writers to actually remember " hey, waint a minute, thats not rhino thats the juggernaut".

Originally posted by abhilegend
Right, that's why he lost to small demons from Cyttorak who sealed him in his own armor.


he didnt just lose to them, it wasnt even a fight. he was screaming like a little scared child.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Or O5 Beast...



what do you mean? when did he lose to beast? i mean the recent showings. if you mean the portal that beast created then its just a typical bfr which didnt even involve beast getting physical with juggernaut. at that yacht, juggernaut clearly showed superiority over the xmen

@Abhi right because punching him is gonna finish it, find instances of physical assault stopping Juggs permanently other than BFR. you're just plain wrong

the only physical force that effected jugegrnaut like that was onslaught. i know he used telekinetic punch but that manifested into a physical force that hit juggernaut. other than that, i dont recall physical damage doing anything to stop him. oh right, aside of that beast beating him till he became an old man bullshit. man i hate that comics...

Originally posted by Baziemarc123
@Abhi right because punching him is gonna finish it, find instances of physical assault stopping Juggs permanently other than BFR. you're just plain wrong
Well it worked for Onslaught.

Originally posted by Dareangel
what do you mean? when did he lose to beast? i mean the recent showings. if you mean the portal that beast created then its just a typical bfr which didnt even involve beast getting physical with juggernaut. at that yacht, juggernaut clearly showed superiority over the xmen

Yes, I mean the portal thing.

He still got beaten easily - with a plot device spell that Beast pulled out of his ass.

And his every weakness was supposed to be gone, so it's weird he didn't get any magical resistance or anything like that. Like Kuurth.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Yes, I mean the portal thing.

He still got beaten easily - with a plot device spell that Beast pulled out of his ass.

And his every weakness was supposed to be gone, so it's weird he didn't get any magical resistance or anything like that. Like Kuurth.

yes i agree. plus he was scared like a little child of those demons and wasnt even trying to fight them or anything. thats weak.