MCU Thor vs MCU Hulk compared
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playa1258
MCU Thor vs MCU Hulk compared in the following:
-Strength
-Durability/Endurance
-Skills
-Determination
-Power
Who gets the edge in each category and why?
Rage.Of.Olympus
Based purely on feats?
-Strength - They should be about equal, at least when Thor is in his lightning God mode as seen in Ragnarok but Thor's recent feats of the planetary rings and how he held the gate up are so far superior to anything Hulk has done it's like....the gap you would expect by someone who was beat up by Thanos and someone who can throw his magical axe so hard it impales IG Thanos. So enormous, it could be a DBZ power up.
-Durability/Endurance - Lol.
-Skills - Double lol.
-Determination - Triple lol.
-Power - Lol^4.
Robtard
As of IF, MCU Thor pretty much shits all over Hulk now in every single category.
I suspect Hulk's going to have a powerboost in the sequel to redeem himself, be it rage-induced due to some butthurt or some outside factor.
quanchi112
Originally posted by playa1258
MCU Thor vs MCU Hulk compared in the following:
-Strength
-Durability/Endurance
-Skills
-Determination
-Power
Who gets the edge in each category and why? Strength:Hulk
Durability/endurance:Hulk
Skills:Thor
Determination:Thor
Power:Thor
Rage.Of.Olympus
Originally posted by quanchi112
Durability/endurance:Hulk
Unjustifiable.
playa1258
Yes, all feats from the MCU.
playa1258
Hulk was so traumatized he bitched out the rest of the film.
Thor meanwhile went on like a goddamn man.
Thor is the MCU's greatest hero.
I know it hurts.
Josh_Alexander
Strength - Hulk
Durability - Hulk although he doesn't featwise.
Everything Else - Thor.
quanchi112
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Thor failed to affect Thanos in any way with his pathetic sneak attack. Thanos didn't even move an inch. Deep down the fanboys know this is 100 percent accurate.
gauntlet o doom
Strength would still go to Hulk. Everything else is in Thor's favour.
Darth Thor
Originally posted by quanchi112
Power:Thor
Profiled.
The most powerful is obviously the powerhouse.
Adam Grimes
Thor in all. Have a nice day.
FrothByte
I think Hulk still has more raw strength than Thor, just that Thor knows how to leverage his strength better.
quanchi112
Originally posted by FrothByte
I think Hulk still has more raw strength than Thor, just that Thor knows how to leverage his strength better. Thor is the more skilled combatant whereas Hulk is the more physical brute ala the powerhouse.
FrothByte
Originally posted by quanchi112
Thor is the more skilled combatant whereas Hulk is the more physical brute ala the powerhouse.
Agreed with your first half. But Thor is the powerhouse, Hulk is the strongman.
TheLordofMurder
Thor withstood the full force of a freaking Neutron Star (one of the most energetic celestial bodies in the universe) for several minutes...
No one, and I mean no one has a showing of durability that great...
Especially the Hulk...
As pertains to Strength, Hulk clearly looked superior to Thor vs Thanos...
Adding to that, I think Hulk is going to go "Mindless" (and thus have all limits of his strength removed) in the next Infinity War movie and be as he was when he fought Peak Power Onslaught in the Comics (Onslaught backed by the power of Franklin and Nate)...
When that version of Hulk arrives, Hulk will absolutely be the "Strongest one there is."
TheLordofMurder
Thor's durability is superior to Hulks...
Tanking Neutron Star>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>all of Hulks durability feats combined.
quanchi112
Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
Thor's durability is superior to Hulks...
Tanking Neutron Star>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>all of Hulks durability feats combined. We already see in similar situations Hulk looks better s he could do it better imo. Hulk is the brute not Thor, dummy. Not that you believe anything you post.
TheLordofMurder
Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
Thor's durability is superior to Hulks...
Tanking Neutron Star>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>all of Hulks durability feats combined.

quanchi112
Originally posted by TheLordofMurder

Nah, comparisons prove superiority not one off feats, dummy. Not that you believe any of this.
TheLordofMurder
Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
Thor's durability is superior to Hulks...
Tanking Neutron Star>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>all of Hulks durability feats combined.
Yep...

quanchi112
Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
Yep...

I have rebutted this you conceded. I accept.
TheLordofMurder
Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
Thor's durability is superior to Hulks...
Tanking Neutron Star>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>all of Hulks durability feats combined.
100% fact...

TheVaultDweller
And things are back to normal.
CPT Space Bomb
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Thor failed to affect Thanos in any way with his pathetic sneak attack. Thanos didn't even move an inch. Thor was badly weakened and beat the **** up. He could barely move. Hell he couldn't even summon lighting. Thor still went on to man up and try it again, whereas Hulk was just a little ***** the rest of the film and REFUSED to fight even common trash
I like MCU Hulk but the notion that Thor didn't COMPLETELY outshine Hulk in pretty much every way in IW is hilariously laughable.
CPT Space Bomb
-Strength - Hulk
-Durability/Endurance - Thor
-Skills - Thor
-Determination - Thor
-Power - Thor
Before IW I'd be more inclined to lean towards Hulk in endurance and durability but not anymore. Thor is a straight up beast the last 2 films.

The Sorrow
Hulk is stronger and more durable, Thor generally has more determination, is obviously more skilful, and because of Stormbreaker is now more powerful.
quanchi112
Originally posted by The Sorrow
Hulk is stronger and more durable, Thor generally has more determination, is obviously more skilful, and because of Stormbreaker is now more powerful. Correct.
CPT Space Bomb
Thor has better durability. The only thing Hulk has over Thor after IW is strength.
FrothByte
We could also add that Hulk has better height, weight and reach. But that's about it.
The Sorrow
Based on what? Just because Thor gets his ass kicked far more than Hulk does doesn't mean he has better durability.
Rage.Of.Olympus
Originally posted by The Sorrow
Hulk is stronger and more durable, Thor generally has more determination, is obviously more skilful, and because of Stormbreaker is now more powerful.
Thor was more powerful before Stormbreaker.
Giving Thor the edge in everything but strength is the only logical conclusion.
The Sorrow
Did people think Thor would just instantly melt or something lol? He can survive short periods in the sun in comics so it's hardly surprising he can in the movies. Hulk is still more durable in the comics and movies though, like you said almost everytime they're on screen together it's Hulk who comes off looking physically superior.
The Sorrow
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Thor was more powerful before Stormbreaker.
Giving Thor the edge in everything but strength is the only logical conclusion.
IYO. What the hell makes Thor more durable then? And don't say the star feat, Hulk wasn't there.
CPT Space Bomb
Originally posted by The Sorrow
Based on what? Just because Thor gets his ass kicked far more than Hulk does doesn't mean he has better durability. Based on the films. Thor has taken the full force of a star for several minutes in space. Hulk can't even breath in space (at least until shown otherwise), let alone take a star. Thor has taken massive hits and cheapshots from Hulk and beings Far more powerful than Hulk and still always comes away fine. He is the lone survivor of Thanos' power stone explosion on his Asgardian ship. He took repeated poundings from Kurse, a being so powerful he was able to Swat Mjolnir completely away MID FLIGHT and just had some scratches on his face. Hulk can't even pick up Mjolnir. Thor fell from space into a portal thousands or more feet in the air and crashed into Sakarr's surface and was perfectly fine. Thor took hit after hit from an enraged Hulk that had BEEN HULK FOR YEARS on Sakarr and didn't get even get scratched. Basically, Thor has shown to be supremely durable against all forms of damage; Physical, elemental and magical.
Edit: Thor doesn't get his ass kicked more than Hulk either. Hulk has gotten his ass kicked once per movie appearance at least. Thor was completely untouched as Thor in Thor 1. Thor also fights WAY more powerful foes than Hulk does consistently.
Rage.Of.Olympus
Originally posted by The Sorrow
IYO. What the hell makes Thor more durable then? And don't say the star feat, Hulk wasn't there.
....superior feats? That's not an excuse.
And your logic that Thor gets his ass kicked more holds no water. The first time Hulk faced anyone of note was Fenris, and he barely won that through bfr, he was having serious problems there. Surtur casually smacked him away, and Thanos took his lunch money. Even Thor was the favourite in pure h2h when he went god mode in Ragnarok.
If Hulk was facing beings like Kurse, Malekith, and Hela like Thor had, he'd be taking a pounding too but tbh, I can't justify him being more durable anymore. In Avengers 1, he managed to draw a bit of blood with a punch. In Ragnarok, an extended ground and pound didn't even scratch Thor. Thor's invulnerability has improved, which was the only category Hulk has an edge imo.
TheLordofMurder
Originally posted by The Sorrow
Based on what? Just because Thor gets his ass kicked far more than Hulk does doesn't mean he has better durability.
Thor tanked the full force of a Neutron Star for several minutes...
Until Hulk has a feat of durability on that level, Thors durability is greater than Hulks...
The Sorrow
So nothing?

Post is full of bias, mentioning Hulk breathing in space as some kind of mark against him... in durability... interesting.
Thor got ko'd by Hulk and was left sore and badly bruised afterwards, no punch delivered by Hulk in the main arena fight was comparable to the punch he took Thor out with. Thor never ko'd Hulk despite hitting him with his 2 biggest attacks in the entire movie besides maybe the Hela lightning bolt. We also never saw Thor fight Thanos, why because without his hammer it was pointless. In the opening IW scene it wasn't Thor that was used to push Thanos it was Hulk. Apparently Thor is almost as strong as Hulk according to some posters, so why when the two fight is Thor always the one that gets launched? Thor also bleeds in EVERY movie, no way is Thor MORE durable than Hulk. His damage soak certainly rivals but Hulk isn't getting bled from one punch to the nose. Look at all the attacks Thor landed in Ragnarok yet Hulk never bled once and was chilling in his tub after the fight like it was all in days work.
CPT Space Bomb
Originally posted by The Sorrow
So nothing?

Post is full of bias, mentioning Hulk breathing in space as some kind of mark against him... in durability... interesting.
Thor got ko'd by Hulk and was left sore and badly bruised afterwards, no punch delivered by Hulk in the main arena fight was comparable to the punch he took Thor out with. Thor never ko'd Hulk despite hitting him with his 2 biggest attacks in the entire movie besides maybe the Hela lightning bolt. We also never saw Thor fight Thanos, why because without his hammer it was pointless. In the opening IW scene it wasn't Thor that was used to push Thanos it was Hulk. Apparently Thor is almost as strong as Hulk according to some posters, so why when the two fight is Thor always the one that gets launched? Thor also bleeds in EVERY movie, no way is Thor MORE durable than Hulk. His damage soak certainly rivals but Hulk isn't getting bled from one punch to the nose. Look at all the attacks Thor landed in Ragnarok yet Hulk never bled once and was chilling in his tub after the fight like it was all in days work. Thor was wrecking Hulk until he got unfairly 2v1'd by Grandmaster. Everyone but you and Quanchii knows that. Also, Thor Launched Hulk WAY HARDER than Hulk did to Thor in Ragnarok. Did you even watch the movie? Thor had an arena hammer and sent Hulk flying so hard and far that the entire crowd, including GM were in awe. Hulk then decided to cheaphot and ragdoll Thor to no effect. Thor just got up and brushed it off with no injuries at all. Also, don't talk to me about bleeding. Hulk was bleeding from Chitari weapons in Avengers 1 and was looking like they were wrecking his shit. I could also say the same thing about all the blows Hulk landed on Thor and he wasn't bleeding either.
Bottom line is this, Hulk has a worse ass kicked per appearance record than Thor does, despite having fought less foes and certainly less powerful foes. That's pure fact.
TheLordofMurder
Originally posted by CPT Space Bomb
Thor was wrecking Hulk until he got unfairly 2v1'd by Grandmaster. Everyone but you and Quanchii knows that. Also, Thor Launched Hulk WAY HARDER than Hulk did to Thor in Ragnarok. Did you even watch the movie? Thor had an arena hammer and sent Hulk flying so hard and far that the entire crowd, including GM were in awe. Hulk then decided to cheaphot and ragdoll Thor to no effect. Thor just got up and brushed it off with no injuries at all. Also, don't talk to me about bleeding. Hulk was bleeding from Chitari weapons in Avengers 1 and was looking like they were wrecking his shit. I could also say the same thing about all the blows Hulk landed on Thor and he wasn't bleeding either.
Bottom line is this, Hulk has a worse ass kicked per appearance record than Thor does, despite having fought less foes and certainly less powerful foes. That's pure fact.

Darth Thor
Originally posted by The Sorrow
Based on what? Just because Thor gets his ass kicked far more than Hulk does doesn't mean he has better durability.
Even prior to IW, Thor took massive beatings from Hulk. Whilst Hulk was struggling to stand up after 2 Lightning punches from Thor.
So either Thor is more durable, or his Lightning punches are ridiculously stronger than Hulks punches.
Take your pick.
The Sorrow
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
....superior feats? That's not an excuse.
And your logic that Thor gets his ass kicked more holds no water. The first time Hulk faced anyone of note was Fenris, and he barely won that through bfr, he was having serious problems there. Surtur casually smacked him away, and Thanos took his lunch money. Even Thor was the favourite in pure h2h when he went god mode in Ragnarok.
If Hulk was facing beings like Kurse, Malekith, and Hela like Thor had, he'd be taking a pounding too but tbh, I can't justify him being more durable anymore. In Avengers 1, he managed to draw a bit of blood with a punch. In Ragnarok, an extended ground and pound didn't even scratch Thor. Thor's invulnerability has improved, which was the only category Hulk has an edge imo.
Fenris no sold the full arsenal of the Grandmasters personal ship and iirc was cracking the rainbow bridge just from its footfalls, you're insane if you think Fenris (the phucking Fenris Wolf!) was not intended to be uber. In regards to their arena fight, yeah sure Thor was the favourite, it was his movie after all but he still lost the fight and even if GM didn't intervene there's no telling how it would've went down. Hulk was standing tall at the end and didn't hesistate in leaping skyward to deliver an attack more brutal than any of his previous other attacks on Thor so he clearly had more left in the tank.
Are you bringing up getting thrown away by FP Surtur (even though Hulk seemingly effected him more than Hela did), and getting worked by Thanos (when Thor was seemingly stomped to an easier degree) as bad showings? Bro, Thor got slapped around by Ultron and knocked himself over with Hulks inflatable ball so let's not even go the lower end showing route.
Adam Grimes
Is the sorrow Naijaboy's kid or something?
CPT Space Bomb
Originally posted by Adam Grimes
Is the sorrow Naijaboy's kid or something? Either that or Carver's....
The Sorrow
Originally posted by CPT Space Bomb
Thor was wrecking Hulk until he got unfairly 2v1'd by Grandmaster. Everyone but you and Quanchii knows that. Also, Thor Launched Hulk WAY HARDER than Hulk did to Thor in Ragnarok. Did you even watch the movie? Thor had an arena hammer and sent Hulk flying so hard and far that the entire crowd, including GM were in awe. Hulk then decided to cheaphot and ragdoll Thor to no effect. Thor just got up and brushed it off with no injuries at all. Also, don't talk to me about bleeding. Hulk was bleeding from Chitari weapons in Avengers 1 and was looking like they were wrecking his shit. I could also say the same thing about all the blows Hulk landed on Thor and he wasn't bleeding either.
Bottom line is this, Hulk has a worse ass kicked per appearance record than Thor does, despite having fought less foes and certainly less powerful foes. That's pure fact.
Knocking Hulk away twice is "wrecking"? You mustn't have been in many fights. Thor launched Hulk when he used Hulks OWN momentum against him, the subsequent hammer shots had nothing like the same kind of affect and were just pissing Hulk off.
If that was the original message you wanted to push you should've just said that, it's such a pointless distinction to make but I'm bored at the moment so let's see... Thor has been ko'd at least 3x, was incapacitated by Kurse and Thanos, bled from Loki, struggled with regular suit Iron Man, manhandled by Hulk in Avengers 1 and Ultron in A2 among other less-than-flattering showings all within the space of 6 movies? Hulk was hurt by the Chitari army, incapacitated by Thanos, ko'd by Hulkbuster and bled when was bitten by Fenris. Nothing really unexpected the Hulkbuster wasn't a clean loss and Hulk has appeared in 4 movies? I'd rather have Hulks record tbh, his only legit loss was to Thanos, and has only really seemed hurt against the Chitari army.
quanchi112
Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
Thor tanked the full force of a Neutron Star for several minutes...
Until Hulk has a feat of durability on that level, Thors durability is greater than Hulks... That is ridiculous and you know it. Hulk is physically superior to Thor and you know it. The feat just shows Thor is amazing but we already knew that. Problem is Hulk is more amazing physically than Thor is.
The Sorrow
Originally posted by Darth Thor
Even prior to IW, Thor took massive beatings from Hulk. Whilst Hulk was struggling to stand up after 2 Lightning punches from Thor.
So either Thor is more durable, or his Lightning punches are ridiculously stronger than Hulks punches.
Take your pick.
Which beating? The ground and pound? IMO Odin saved Thor there, he was done and dusted until he was energised with power and irrc almost looked shocked once he got up bursting with power. Similar thing happened in the scene with Hela, he was near ko/death until he suddenly instantly recovered once he saw Odin, that's how I interpreted those moments anyway.
Thor was injured after the fight and Hulk was not despite taking far more hits so your point cannot be true.
Rage.Of.Olympus
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100% skill.
Rage.Of.Olympus
Originally posted by The Sorrow
Which beating? The ground and pound? IMO Odin saved Thor there, he was done and dusted until he was energised with power and irrc almost looked shocked once he got up bursting with power. Similar thing happened in the scene with Hela, he was near ko/death until he suddenly instantly recovered once he saw Odin, that's how I interpreted those moments anyway.
Thor was injured after the fight and Hulk was not despite taking far more hits so your point cannot be true.
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You can't just completely make things up and add "IMO".
Thor wasn't dusted. Thor wasn't even hurt. We saw his head turn, completely unhurt, and in a rage he blasts Hulk.
It's like saying Hulk was dusted when Thor was kicking his ass across the arena.
Rage.Of.Olympus
Hulk wasn't zapped with an obedience disk, unable to defend himself, as Thor leapt 100 feet into the air and landed with a flying punch on his face.
And Thor was fine.
TWICE in that fight actually, Hulk landed on Thor's face with brutality. If Thor was half as blood thirsty as Hulk, Banner would've been a stain on Thor's fist imo. That ground and pound was brutal. He landed feet and fists down on Thor, with an immediate ground pound. How many times did he hit Thor? A dozen undefended shots to the face?
The fact that Thor was unharmed is pretty crazy imo.
Adam Grimes
'Odin saved Thor' smh..
FrothByte
How can this still a debate after Ragnarok and IW? At this point it's pretty clear that Thor > Hulk.
The Sorrow
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
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You can't just completely make things up and add "IMO".
Thor wasn't dusted. Thor wasn't even hurt. We saw his head turn, completely unhurt, and in a rage he blasts Hulk.
It's like saying Hulk was dusted when Thor was kicking his ass across the arena.
So are you saying Odins appearance in the 2 scenes where Thor is getting his ass handed to him hardest, looking on the verge of defeat only to turn the tide after is coincidence? It wasn't.
I'm going by what I saw on screen, the only reason I put "imo" was because I'm not the writer and cannot prove it, but without the writer spoon feeding every scene to us that's what I (and everyone I spoke to personally) took from it.
Plenty of you guys have been saying exactly that though.
TheLordofMurder
Originally posted by FrothByte
How can this still a debate after Ragnarok and IW? At this point it's pretty clear that Thor > Hulk.

Adam Grimes
Originally posted by The Sorrow
So are you saying Odins appearance in the 2 scenes where Thor is getting his ass handed to him hardest, looking on the verge of defeat only to turn the tide after is coincidence? It wasn't.
I'm going by what I saw on screen, the only reason I put "imo" was because I'm not the writer and cannot prove it, but without the writer spoon feeding every scene to us that's what I (and everyone I spoke to personally) took from it.
Plenty of you guys have been saying exactly that though. Nah, it's definitely iyo because I haven't seen anyone else interpreting those scenes that way. It doesn't even make sense my friend.
Darth Thor
Thor even says to Hulk - You didnt smash anything.. I WON THAT FIGHT
TheLordofMurder
As pertains durability, Hulk has absolutely nothing to compare to this:
quanchi112
Originally posted by Adam Grimes
Nah, it's definitely iyo because I haven't seen anyone else interpreting those scenes that way. It doesn't even make sense my friend. It is his opinion just as it is yours. Popularity holds no weight in a debate. You were never good at debating you should probably stop.
CPT Space Bomb
Originally posted by The Sorrow
Knocking Hulk away twice is "wrecking"? You mustn't have been in many fights. Thor launched Hulk when he used Hulks OWN momentum against him, the subsequent hammer shots had nothing like the same kind of affect and were just pissing Hulk off.
Um, Lol! Momentum? This isn't baseball. Thor smashed Hulk across the arena and severely damaged the wall. Thor used his SKILL and waited for the perfect opportunity to blast Hulk. He was also CLEARLY HOLDING BACK as he kept saying stuff like "You're embarrasing me in front of all these people" and "I know you're in there Banner, don't worry I'll get you out". Thor wasn't trying to Hurt Hulk until Hulk pissed him off enough to make him Go GOD MODE. Then Thor was wrecking his shit and had to be cheap shotted by Grandmaster for Hulk to "Win" Give me a break, it's clear as day that after Ragnarok and IW, Thor is greater than Hulk in pretty much every category. I'll concede Strength to Hulk though.
Adam Grimes
Originally posted by quanchi112
It is his opinion just as it is yours. Popularity holds no weight in a debate. You were never good at debating you should probably stop. You're always wrong so thanks for the compliment, friend.
Darth Thor
Actually Hulk didnt disagree. But to act like Hulks rants are as reliable as Thor talking seriously is beyond laughable.
CPT Space Bomb
Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
What is Hulks greatest feat of durability? Getting K'od by Iron Man

Adam Grimes
Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
What is Hulks greatest feat of durability? Not dying after getting blasted anally by the Chitauri

TheLordofMurder
Originally posted by CPT Space Bomb
Getting K'od by Iron Man

TheLordofMurder
Originally posted by Adam Grimes
Not dying after getting blasted anally by the Chitauri

TheLordofMurder
So the fact of the matter is that Hulk has no feat on par with tanking a Neutron Star...
Thor is superior as pertains durability as a result...
Rage.Of.Olympus
@Quanchi
The Russos said that the only reason Thor didn't kill Thanos was because he wanted him to know Thor was the one who delivered the finishing blow. He is very much capable of killing the Titan.
CPT Space Bomb
Well, it sure seems to me that most people understand the truth. Hulk is stronger, Thor is better at everything else.
The Sorrow
Originally posted by Adam Grimes
Nah, it's definitely iyo because I haven't seen anyone else interpreting those scenes that way. It doesn't even make sense my friend.
So Thor bled in Avengers 1 from a single punch but a ground n pound from the same character all of a sudden has no effect? Similarly Hela had Thor at deaths door, had stabbed him multiple times with Odins spear, beat him to pulp and had him limp yet as soon as the Odin vision happened he seemed to be at 100% again. Odin clearly aided him in both situations either by empowering him directly or giving him a jolt so his lightning could do the rest.
CPT Space Bomb
Originally posted by The Sorrow
So Thor bled in Avengers 1 from a single punch but a ground n pound from the same character all of a sudden has no effect? Similarly Hela had Thor at deaths door, had stabbed him multiple times with Odins spear, beat him to pulp and had him limp yet as soon as the Odin vision happened he seemed to be at 100% again. Odin clearly aided him in both situations either by empowering him directly or giving him a jolt so his lightning could do the rest. Hela never Had Thor at death's door lol. She was whooping him sure. But Hela would absolutely demolish Hulk even worse so that doesn't matter. Thor > Hulk in every area besides strength.
Adam Grimes
Originally posted by The Sorrow
So Thor bled in Avengers 1 from a single punch but a ground n pound from the same character all of a sudden has no effect? Similarly Hela had Thor at deaths door, had stabbed him multiple times with Odins spear, beat him to pulp and had him limp yet as soon as the Odin vision happened he seemed to be at 100% again. Odin clearly aided him in both situations either by empowering him directly or giving him a jolt so his lightning could do the rest. It's none of those silly excuses my friend, if you actually watched the movie you'd know those scenes are meant to show that Thor doesn't need Mjolnir to channel his true power.
Odin says a much during the whole 'are you Thor the God of hammers?' conversation... 🤦🏻
Rage.Of.Olympus
Originally posted by The Sorrow
So Thor bled in Avengers 1 from a single punch but a ground n pound from the same character all of a sudden has no effect? Similarly Hela had Thor at deaths door, had stabbed him multiple times with Odins spear, beat him to pulp and had him limp yet as soon as the Odin vision happened he seemed to be at 100% again. Odin clearly aided him in both situations either by empowering him directly or giving him a jolt so his lightning could do the rest.
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Hela never had Thor at deaths door.
Are you unfamiliar with fiction? A hero realizing his hidden true power and escalating to a new level is a very popular trope. The most popular anime in history, DBZ is built on it..
You're a Hulk fan, the entire shtick in comics is him getting stronger as he gets angrier.
Odin giving him a jolt? Odin had moved on and was a vision. This is grade A, prime cut mental gymnastics.
I think I understand your confusion. The reality that Odin was a motivator and didn't magically empower Thor causes cognitive dissonance because you'd have to acknowledge that Thor > Hulk.
I've read the script, I can even post the link. It was Thor accessing his internal power that he's been holding back all these centuries.
Thor also instantly healed when he touched Stormbreaker and when his mortal version died and touched Mjolnir. When the lighting crackles, and his eyes glow, whatever hurt him previously is irrelevant, and you're about to get an ass kicking. Hulk learned that himself.
Rage.Of.Olympus
@Quanchi
That's what I mean. If he had aimed at the head, he would've killed Thanos. The Russo's confirmed. You said Thor was delusional, and could never kill Thanos or some such.
FrothByte
^ Funny, I remember debating with you in a Thor vs. Hulk thread years ago when the first Avengers movie came out. I mentioned how Hulk cheapshot Thor twice in that movie, once when Thor was trying to calm Hulk down and another when they brought down a leviathan together.
You completely disagreed with those shots being cheapshots, yet now you're harping about a Thor surprise attack?
FrothByte
^ I'm saying you sure have some double standards. Also, why can't I quote your posts?
Anyway, the lightning attack was a surprise attack but the SB throw certainly wasn't.
FrothByte
^ I think IG Thanos can defeat SB Thor as long as Thanos used the IG smartly. But he can't overpower Thor in a direct weapon vs. weapon confrontation as we already saw what happens when he tries that.
The Sorrow
Originally posted by CPT Space Bomb
Um, Lol! Momentum? This isn't baseball. Thor smashed Hulk across the arena and severely damaged the wall. Thor used his SKILL and waited for the perfect opportunity to blast Hulk. He was also CLEARLY HOLDING BACK as he kept saying stuff like "You're embarrasing me in front of all these people" and "I know you're in there Banner, don't worry I'll get you out". Thor wasn't trying to Hurt Hulk until Hulk pissed him off enough to make him Go GOD MODE. Then Thor was wrecking his shit and had to be cheap shotted by Grandmaster for Hulk to "Win" Give me a break, it's clear as day that after Ragnarok and IW, Thor is greater than Hulk in pretty much every category. I'll concede Strength to Hulk though.
Except it was, exactly like baseball Thor pitched Hulk good. You failed to acknowledge the several hammer shots Thor landed after that including leaping ones and it never had close to the same kind of affect. Thor talking trash doesn't mean he was holding back lol wtf? I can talk shit to you and still try and take your head off. What do you think Thor even meant by those words? That he's trying to knock Hulk the phuck out.
Hulk is stronger and more durable aswell. As already been mentioned, in direct comparison Thor was hurt after the arena fight and Hulk wasn't despite taking most of the hits being dished out.
Thor has the skill and versatility of course.
FrothByte
Here's a direct durability comparison:
Hulk was dropped 30,000 ft in the air. He got knocked out and reverted back to Banner. Thor was dropped thousands of feet from outer space, he immediately got up after crash landing.
FrothByte
^ Except none of those are direct comparisons.
Rage.Of.Olympus
Originally posted by The Sorrow
As already been mentioned, in direct comparison Thor was hurt after the arena fight and Hulk wasn't despite taking most of the hits being dished out.
Thor has the skill and versatility of course.
Completely untrue. Hulk threw more attacks in that ground and pound than all the other attacks in the entire fight probably.
CPT Space Bomb
I like how Hulk was recuperating in a hot tub to soothe his sore body after Thor beat the shit out of him.
Let's see, WHO was 2v1'd because they were winning?
1. Thor?
2. Hulk?
Oh, that's right, the answer is THOR. That says all that needs be said.
TheLordofMurder
Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
So the fact of the matter is that Hulk has no feat on par with tanking a Neutron Star...
Thor is superior as pertains durability as a result...

The Sorrow
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Completely untrue. Hulk threw more attacks in that ground and pound than all the other attacks in the entire fight probably.
Then you need to rewatch the fight. The ground n pound was roughly a dozen hits, Thor landed more than that throughout the fight and landed 2 of the biggest hits at the end besides Hulks atomic punch. Hulk was unharmed while Thor needed nursing after that's undeniable and a direct comparison of durability.
Had a quick rewatch of the scene just in case I was remembering it wrong, yes Thor had the power within himself but he clearly needed those visions to unlock it he looks shocked when he sees the lightning flowing through his body initially. Then against Hela his body doesn't crackle until after Odins appears again and basically tells him about powers, prior to that moment he was defenceless.
I can agree the lightning gives him some type of rejuvenating effect but it doesn't seem to completely heal him or has limits he was still notably fatigued after the Hela fight for example and didn't seem to think it would be useful when Thanos was killing him and his people on the Asgardian ship. When he healed from near death in IW they needed to get his hammer to him first... I'm skeptical. There's also the fact that if it does "erase all previous damage" once he transforms then Hulk effectively one shotted Thor at the end of that arena fight.
CPT Space Bomb
Originally posted by The Sorrow
Then you need to rewatch the fight. The ground n pound was roughly a dozen hits, Thor landed more than that throughout the fight and landed 2 of the biggest hits at the end besides Hulks atomic punch. Hulk was unharmed while Thor needed nursing after that's undeniable and a direct comparison of durability.
Had a quick rewatch of the scene just in case I was remembering it wrong, yes Thor had the power within himself but he clearly needed those visions to unlock it he looks shocked when he sees the lightning flowing through his body initially. Then against Hela his body doesn't crackle until after Odins appears again and basically tells him about powers, prior to that moment he was defenceless.
I can agree the lightning gives him some type of rejuvenating effect but it doesn't seem to completely heal him or has limits he was still notably fatigued after the Hela fight for example and didn't seem to think it would be useful when Thanos was killing him and his people on the Asgardian ship. When he healed from near death in IW they needed to get his hammer to him first... I'm skeptical. There's also the fact that if it does "erase all previous damage" once he transforms then Hulk effectively one shotted Thor at the end of that arena fight. Hulk was soothing his wounds in a hot tub. Also, Thor was 2v1'd. In fact, the ONLY reason Thor was sore was Grandmaster incapacitated Thor; NOT HULK. Sure, when Thor was lying on the ground defensless Hulk was FINALLY able to do something. Before GM cheated and ko'd Thor, Thor was kicking Hulk's ass.
CPT Space Bomb
Again, this is a horrible example. Thor was beaten to the point where he could barely move. He couldn't even summon lightning. Thanos and crew wrecked Thor, that is true. But ask yourself, why the **** did Hulk not Help Thor out? Obviously Hulk was hiding like a ***** letting Thor get owned by Thanos and his entire crew before he decided to fight.
Anyway, a weakened, ****ed up Thor that can barely move of course won't impact Thanos much. However, Thor at full strength with Stormbreaker sure as hell did. Damn near killed him. Meanwhile, Hulk was such a pussy that after he got his ass beat he didn't even have the guts to fight lesser mobs, let alone Thanos or his children.
Thor > Hulk, and it's not even close.
Darth Thor
Originally posted by CPT Space Bomb
Thor > Hulk, and it's not even close.
Darth Thor
Actually your opinion as well. As youve finally kneeled to my superior Wisdom and admitted Thor is the teams true Powerhouse.
CPT Space Bomb
Hopefully Hulk will get a better showing in Avengers 4 because he was the LVP of the film. Thor MVP, Hulk LVP.
Adam Grimes
He's probably going to get one-shotted by Ms Marvel
CPT Space Bomb
Originally posted by Adam Grimes
He's probably going to get one-shotted by Ms Marvel Who Hulk?
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/ce/ef/b2/ceefb21bfcd540d6847e801cfb014164.jpg
CPT Space Bomb
I would like to think so. For the longest time the 2 characters nerfed the most in the MCU were Thor and Hulk. Thor finallly has gotten some love (still no where near comic levels obviously) but Hulk has actually been on a downward slope since introduced.
Hulk getting ko'd by Iron Man is still the worst showing of any MCU character to date. I'm not expecting Hulk to actually be more impressive than ever in Avengers 4, but it wouldn't be that hard to do with such low standards.
CPT Space Bomb
Hulk never KO'd Thor either. Not in a 1v1 anyway. 2v1's don't count.
Thor was double teamed; i.e. not a fair fight. Thor was whooping Hulk's ass prior to being KO'd by Grandmaster.
CPT Space Bomb
Yes, the fight was filmed to make both characters look good. It was Thor's movie though and realistically he came away looking better. He had the upper hand and Hulk didn't seem to have an answer for God Mode Thor. Then Thor got zapped and knocked to the ground by GM.
My point with Thor v Hulk round 2 is that Thor was doing all that without his weapon. Mjolnir amps Thor and allows him to channel has magic and striking power. Putting up the fight against the Hulk he did even WITH God Mode was impressive. He still would have "lost" due to Grandmaster being a little ***** but yah...
My point is right now, Thor is on an upward trajectory whilst Hulk unfortunately, is on a downward path. Hopefully we can finally see a Worldbreaker Hulk performance....I'd love to see it on screen.
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