Namor vs Wonder Man

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juggernaut74
Fight starts out on some beach somewhere.

Who wins?

Wonder Man
Namor wins with that horn he can summon demons with.

juggernaut74
Good point.

zopzop
Namor wins. He was manhandling Simon when Simon had help from Ares and Sentry.

I know some idiots will bring up the fight where Namor fought Wonder Man/Beast/Whizzer and Simon KOed him when his back was turned. Now let's put the fight in context, Namor was DYING and on borrowed time and his back was turned and he was in a conversation with Whizzer.

Namor was dying and need an antidote just to function on land :
https://s7.postimg.cc/5aoujzyl3/image.jpg https://s7.postimg.cc/607mwd6uf/image.jpg
Doom destroyed the suit Reed made to keep him alive and he required a serum to keep him going or else:
https://s7.postimg.cc/mnz4z2jo7/image.jpg
This is Namor JUST before the fight with Simon/Whizzer/Beast
https://s7.postimg.cc/sqbd2s2hj/image.jpg
A dying Namor fought and actually overpowered Simon before being taken down by a sucker attack :
https://s7.postimg.cc/5c3dre2pz/image.jpg https://s7.postimg.cc/5c3dreafr/image.jpg https://s7.postimg.cc/gofz96yk7/image.jpg
Notice that after that kick from Namor, Simon was out of the picture long enough for Namor and Whizzer to have a brief tussle and an entire conversation!

juggernaut74
You have scans of the other fight?

zopzop
Originally posted by juggernaut74
You have scans of the other fight?
You mean the one where Namor tooled Simon and Ares while temporarily holding off Sentry?

EDIT :
here it is -
https://s7.postimg.cc/ey1jldtjb/image.jpg https://s7.postimg.cc/8kcgi4wd3/image.jpg https://s7.postimg.cc/qzwxfji7b/image.jpg https://s7.postimg.cc/m19f10ttz/image.jpg https://s7.postimg.cc/75avtfxuv/image.jpg https://s7.postimg.cc/87l2c03tj/image.jpg https://s7.postimg.cc/t4hagoh9z/image.jpg https://s7.postimg.cc/50qisee8n/image.jpg

juggernaut74
I remember that. Namor looks different there.

Rage.Of.Olympus
Lol I love ass kicking Namor. There's a real danger you might get raped after getting knocked unconscious imo. Truly terrifying.

tkitna
Originally posted by zopzop
You mean the one where Namor tooled Simon and Ares while temporarily holding off Sentry?

EDIT :
here it is -
https://s7.postimg.cc/ey1jldtjb/image.jpg https://s7.postimg.cc/8kcgi4wd3/image.jpg https://s7.postimg.cc/qzwxfji7b/image.jpg https://s7.postimg.cc/m19f10ttz/image.jpg https://s7.postimg.cc/75avtfxuv/image.jpg https://s7.postimg.cc/87l2c03tj/image.jpg https://s7.postimg.cc/t4hagoh9z/image.jpg https://s7.postimg.cc/50qisee8n/image.jpg

Is that from the Invaders/Avengers book? If so, I can understand the poor writing as that entire story was horrible.

juggernaut74
That does seem odd.

Genii96
Namor beats his ass very easily

riv6672
I call it a split.
WM varies, but at his best, i see them as peers.

celeyhyga17
Bump

riv6672
Still a split.

juggernaut74
If Namor can pull him into the water he'd have a better shot.

Wonder Man
Originally posted by juggernaut74
If Namor can pull him into the water he'd have a better shot.

Great thought
I bet Namor would sacrifice the sea to beat Wonder Man.
At first Wonder Man's ions might evaporate the sea but Wondy might end up as a brown dwarf in power.

Putinbot1
Wondy has knocked out Namor out... Manhandling aside, one has shown he has the ability to knock the other out. Question how many times have you ever actually seen Wonderman knocked out in a fist fight? It's rare... Namor, not so much.

Wonder Man
Namor defeated this giant dragon in Illuminati.
Pretty Impressive

Putinbot1
Would Namor survive the Negabomb?

zopzop
Originally posted by Putinbot1
Would Namor survive the Negabomb?
Wonderman and Vision only survived because they were in the dead center of the bomb when it went off, creating a vacuum at the center of it (like some lucky Hiroshima survivors when America dropped an A bomb on the city). Vision explains it here :
https://s15.postimg.cc/7blhxjbmf/image.jpg
Another Wonder Man myth (first one being Hydrobase 'lifting feat') busted.

abhilegend
Originally posted by zopzop
Wonderman and Vision only survived because they were in the dead center of the bomb when it went off, creating a vacuum at the center of it (like some lucky Hiroshima survivors when America dropped an A bomb on the city). Vision explains it here :
https://s15.postimg.cc/7blhxjbmf/image.jpg
Another Wonder Man myth (first one being Hydrobase 'lifting feat') busted.
Captain America survived it on Hala (center of the bomb) because it was only radiation which killed the kree. It wasn't an explosion.

juggernaut74
What were the details of the Hyrobase feat being busted?

I missed that.

Putinbot1
Originally posted by zopzop
Wonderman and Vision only survived because they were in the dead center of the bomb when it went off, creating a vacuum at the center of it (like some lucky Hiroshima survivors when America dropped an A bomb on the city). Vision explains it here :
https://s15.postimg.cc/7blhxjbmf/image.jpg
Another Wonder Man myth (first one being Hydrobase 'lifting feat') busted. Vision turned intangible and Wonderman absorbed the energy hence the changes to him afterwards or are you saying that the energy from the Negabomb was not absorbed and did not change his powers Zop Zop.

zopzop
Originally posted by abhilegend
Captain America survived it on Hala (center of the bomb) because it was only radiation which killed the kree. It wasn't an explosion.
Dear God, you could be right. Even Deathbird survived it. I knew she was there but I misremember the incident as her arriving there after the bomb exploded not during the event. But I was wrong, she was there when the bomb went off :
https://s15.postimg.cc/8f5m9egt3/image.jpg https://s15.postimg.cc/coacbkrs7/image.jpg
What a non feat for poor Wonder Man! laughing

zopzop
Originally posted by juggernaut74
What were the details of the Hyrobase feat being busted?

I missed that.
Originally posted by zopzop
He is completely wrong. And looking back it's even WORSE than what I expected. It was Sue that stepped in first to balance the island :
https://s15.postimg.cc/rm9gkan5j/image.jpg

But she was straining because the column kept crumbling, then Simon steps in to help :
https://s15.postimg.cc/euvadw89j/image.jpg https://s15.postimg.cc/l8kdh5kvb/image.jpg
Then Sue steps it up again and shields the column in her force field in a way Reed suggested. The pillar was taking the majority of the weight, which is why Reed wanted it to crumble.

As it continues to crumble, Simon is GONE. It's the Pillar and Sue that are doing all the work :
https://s15.postimg.cc/l9ywnzrev/image.jpg https://s15.postimg.cc/ji5xt3frr/image.jpg https://s15.postimg.cc/5ohl41uw7/image.jpg
Simon was only balancing it for the briefest of moments! LOL.

Now compare this to Namor balancing Utopia while the mutants setup the pylons.

Putinbot1
Originally posted by juggernaut74
What were the details of the Hyrobase feat being busted?

I missed that. He didn't bust them really, he just showed the full sequence where the base is balanced by Wonderman and the invisible woman. Which is what happened. However Zop Zop wants to low ball it.

zopzop
Originally posted by Putinbot1
Vision turned intangible and Wonderman absorbed the energy hence the changes to him afterwards or are you saying that the energy from the Negabomb was not absorbed and did not change his powers Zop Zop.
The point is they only survived because they were in the vacuum created when the bomb went off. It's pointless anyway because even non CL100 bricks survived the explosion : Captain America and Deathbird being two of them. laughing
Originally posted by Putinbot1
He didn't bust them really, he just showed the full sequence where the base is balanced by Wonderman and the invisible woman. Which is what happened. However Zop Zop wants to low ball it.
He "balanced" it for 'a brief moment' according to Reed himself. It was the Pillar of lava men and Sue that did all the work.

Putinbot1
2 Questions Zop Zop has Namors fist ever knocked out Wonderman? Has Wondermans fist ever knocked out Namor?

zopzop
Originally posted by Putinbot1
2 Questions Zop Zop has Namors fist ever knocked out Wonderman? Has Wondermans fist ever knocked out Namor?
A Dying Namor hit Wonder Man so hard that he was out of the picture long enough for DYING Namor to fight Whizzer and have an entire conversation with him. Simon recovers and then sucker attacks a DYING Namor.

A young Namor tooled Simon and Ares at the same time!

CosmicComet
poor simon.

his best feat is ever is probably still choking out rulk.

Putinbot1
Originally posted by zopzop
A Dying Namor hit Wonder Man so hard that he was out of the picture long enough for DYING Namor to fight Whizzer and have an entire conversation with him. Simon recovers and then sucker attacks a DYING Namor.

A young Namor tooled Simon and Ares at the same time! Not what I asked, on panel has Simon knocked Namor clearly out cold and has Namor knocked Simon clearly out cold?

zopzop
Originally posted by Putinbot1
Not what I asked, on panel has Simon knocked Namor clearly out cold and has Namor knocked Simon clearly out cold?
That's like saying I knocked out a man dying of stage 4 cancer. Not really impressive is it?

juggernaut74
Wonderman held that press back for a brief moment that was pushing with 50,000 tons of force iirc.

Putinbot1
Originally posted by zopzop
That's like saying I knocked out a man dying of stage 4 cancer. Not really impressive is it? So we'll take that as yes, Simon knocked out Namor on panel and no Namor has never knocked Simon out on panel but I don't like it.

Yours

Zoppy the Zopster.

Thank you Zoppy!

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