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Thor is in warrior madness/has the Belt of strength

NO BFR/fight to the death

who wins

Thor is in Warrior Madness AND has the belt of strength? He accidentally kills Black Adam.

Black Adam dies

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Thor is in Warrior Madness AND has the belt of strength? He accidentally kills Black Adam.

Adam flies through Thor's body. Easily.

Originally posted by panthergod
Adam flies through Thor's body. Easily.

With two stacked amps? You're not even attempting to be logical.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
With two stacked amps? You're not even attempting to be logical.

I'm not falling for your goofy Thorbag lies, kid. Warrior's Madness is simply berserker rage, as you well know, and the Belt of strength simply doubles his strength.

WW3 Adam is also amped around 2x his normal levels, and he's stronger than Thor to begin with.


Adam also has high end true superspeed.

Thor gets divebombed into a puddle.

WW3 black Adam isn't amped to my knowledge. He was just kicking ass I thought.

Originally posted by Damborgson
WW3 black Adam isn't amped to my knowledge. He was just kicking ass I thought.

wrong.

Originally posted by panthergod
wrong. scans?

.. read comics. 52 series, WWIII event.

Thor destroys him.

Warrior Madness Thor is amp by ten in strength and durability, and with the belt of strength double its Thor amp by 20x, Black Adam gets beat into a coma.

It was outright stated Adam had Isis added to his other gods. So instead of the usual six, he had seven.

Originally posted by Damborgson
WW3 black Adam isn't amped to my knowledge. He was just kicking ass I thought.

you are correct. there is a scene omewhere of faust i think saying bladam is powered by 7 gods but iirc adam power shared with isis during the arc...when her brother and her died he just got his power back

Adam rends Thor from limb to limb.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Adam rends Thor from limb to limb.

naw

Yeah, too graphic. Well, just knocks him out then.

Thor>Black Adam>Superman

Originally posted by Baziemarc123
Thor<Black Adam<Superman

There you go.

Originally posted by Damborgson

WW3 black Adam isn't amped to my knowledge. He was just kicking ass I thought.

When Martian Manhunter and a bunch of other heroes fought Black Adam, MM said that BA wasn't the strongest or fastest or even the most powerful warrior on the battlefield - but that he was by far the most ruthless one and that he had the advantage because of that.
That implies that characters like Martian Manhunter or even Power Girl had their advantages over Black Adam, but that they still couldn't deal with him, since he was so ferocious.

And in this fight he goes up against an amped version of Thor, who is at least as ferocious due to the Warrior Madness. While Black Adam has a great speed advantage over Thor, I don't see him keeping up with Thor in the strength / striking and durability department.

Off-Topic: Man, I'm really, really looking forward to the Black Adam movie with Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson. Black Adam is easily in my top 3 favorite DC characters.

Well. You could've used PG.....or you could've used Alan Scott/Firestorm instead as your example....

Originally posted by abhilegend
There you go.

Black Adam rocked Superman shit. stop

Originally posted by DarkSaint85

Well. You could've used PG.....or you could've used Alan Scott/Firestorm instead as your example....

I forgot who participated in the fight against Black Adam. I remembered Martian Manhunter, because he was the one, who said it - and I remembered Power Girl for obvious reasons. (Kinda interesting that I remembered Power Girl, while you remembered Alan Scott. Not judging you though.)

Black Adam was indeed powered by an additional god.

Thor hits him one time and the fight is done. This is spite to the greatest of levels. I dont know why Thor all of a sudden has been dropped to low Herald by a lot of (obvious) posters on here.

the amps are crazy. in this mind set i'd take adam for a slight majority over classic thor, maybe. this is one version of a character i've always found to be greatly overrated. /shrug

Originally posted by Enzeru
(Kinda interesting that I remembered Power Girl, while you remembered Alan Scott. Not judging you though.)

Sorry, but I lol'd.

he has my (Star)heart.

Originally posted by Baziemarc123
Black Adam rocked Superman shit. stop
In your dream?

Originally posted by abhilegend
There you go.

I wonder..

The main difference between the Marvels and Super Family, is the former won't ever run out of power, from lack of sunlight or draining their reserves.

I realize Superman has vast reserves, but I'm not sure someone like Cap or Adam can ever tire.

True Warrior Madness Thor could take him. With the belt of strength added into the mixture Thor should comfortably stomp.

Originally posted by cdtm
I wonder..

The main difference between the Marvels and Super Family, is the former won't ever run out of power, from lack of sunlight or draining their reserves.

I realize Superman has vast reserves, but I'm not sure someone like Cap or Adam can ever tire. Superman can stay without sunlight for 5 days and bench-press Earth continuously without breaking a sweat.

He'd be fine.

None of the Marvels would last more than a few seconds against a serious Superman, though, so it wouldn't get to that.

Originally posted by panthergod
I'm not falling for your goofy Thorbag lies, kid. Warrior's Madness is simply berserker rage, as you well know, and the Belt of strength simply doubles his strength.

WW3 Adam is also amped around 2x his normal levels, and he's stronger than Thor to begin with.


Adam also has high end true superspeed.

Thor gets divebombed into a puddle.

Warrior Madness is bersker rage, but I believe the intention for this thread is for the amp to be considered.

After all, it WAS indeed mentioned on panel that it increases Thor's strength 10 fold, it's not some "Thor bag lie":
https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11111/111113173/5365675-2376079975-ThorW.jpg

World War 3 Black Adam was stated to have an additional God (Isis) by the horseman but how is it any more relevant than the WM statement? The MAJOR fight that everyone remembers WW3 Black Adam for? The writer did not consider the amp, it was a side-stream story that did not really matter. Adam beat the shit out of everyone because he was in fact a raging animal, if anything, it wasn't that great of a showing for him.

Originally posted by krisblaze
Black Adam was indeed powered by an additional god.

He was powered by Isis, but how relevant do you consider that side plot if the fight everyone remembers him for, where he fights all those heroes, he was clearly not amped or intended to be at least. Tbh, him not being considered the strongest in a line-up of Power Girl or Martian Manhunter is kind of odd.

It was the perfect example of comic-book logic and inverse ninja law in play. The entire thing made zero sense. Alan Scott trying to physically tackle Black Adam? Smh. And people call Carver crazy for saying Hulk would walk through DC's heroes when Black Adam was a mini-Hulk doing the same.

An amped Black Adam beating the shit out of everyone through a strength amp would make a lot more sense.

Was never really impressed with the different interpretations or incarnations of wm. Only was looked impressive because the other times, the opponents weren't that tough.

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Was never really impressed with the different interpretation or incarnation of wm. Only one was looked impressive because the other times, the opponents weren't that tough.

Jelly is right, in that it's usually just a crazy Thor, but it clearly has some benefits. He for example didn't even register the impact of Hulk's uppercut when he entered WM. Which is pretty impressive.

Aside from that, he fought Adam Warlock under Lee in WM and beat the shit out of him. That's it IIRC.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Jelly is right, in that it's usually just a crazy Thor, but it clearly has some benefits. He for example didn't even register the impact of Hulk's uppercut when he entered WM. Which is pretty impressive.

Aside from that, he fought Adam Warlock under Lee in WM and beat the shit out of him. That's it IIRC.
He also went WM against Kang(shields) iirc.

The only really impressive one is when he(w/Warriors 3) beat the combined armies of the Dwarves and the Frost Giants. It was a crazy feat because he ran through combined armies that included Ymir(trans/skyfather) and a Thor clone created to kill Odin.


http://i.imgur.com/NLXlebbm.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/JNJauIRm.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/XNhXDbam.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/3yGMC1fm.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/qrMEorWm.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/U2Iloixm.jpg

Their battle was felt even in Midgard. One day I'll make a list of all the times Thor's fights have shaken the Nine Worlds etc.

Thor one shots him

Does he?

Could anyone one-shot ww3 BA?

More likely than not Thor should win if we consider that this is Base Thor x2 and then x10, which seems like an absurd amp. However, consider the amount of abuse Adam took.

If the intention is Thor striking at 20x his base, I don't see why not.

If it just Blood and Thunder Thor X2 , he's still going to devastate him.

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
He also went WM against Kang(shields) iirc.

The only really impressive one is when he(w/Warriors 3) beat the combined armies of the Dwarves and the Frost Giants. It was a crazy feat because he ran through combined armies that included Ymir(trans/skyfather) and a Thor clone created to kill Odin.


http://i.imgur.com/NLXlebbm.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/JNJauIRm.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/XNhXDbam.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/3yGMC1fm.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/qrMEorWm.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/U2Iloixm.jpg

That's incredible! any more trans tier feats for Thor?

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Warrior Madness is bersker rage, but I believe the intention for this thread is for the amp to be considered.

There is nio "amp'. Whatsoever.



I dont care about blatant typical pseudo Shakespearean hyperbole.

Thor has never, at any point whatsoever, demonstrated the ability to fluctuate his phystrength by a factor ten. Ever.

Actually his on panel greatest relative strength feat ever due to an adrenaline rush/amped mental state was momentarily restraining Durok. 10x amp..? lmaoo. Thor is NOT Hulk, and does NOT have the ability to genuinely increase his strength, as Stan Lee made clear in Thor 385.



.. Because you say so? lol

Adam had the power of another high end top tier character amping his power levels.. period. on top of that, he was in an enraged mentality.

It's among the most impressive showings he's ever had, and Thor has nothing comparable for physical formidability. WWIII BA>>B&T Thor pre Power Gem.


Adam dives through Thor's body before he can think.

I'm always surprised at Thor fans wanting the Warrior Madness to be 10x, given he showings he has in that state, like against Maestro.

I'd be more 'shush shush' about it, let's say. Maybe even pass it as "hyperbole, it's normal Thor, but pissed off".

I hate the 1990's redesigns. Liefield Youngblood-ish type crap.

Herc's was especially bad.

Originally posted by panthergod
There is nio "amp'. Whatsoever.

I dont care about blatant typical pseudo Shakespearean hyperbole.

Thor has never, at any point whatsoever, demonstrated the ability to fluctuate his phystrength by a factor ten. Ever.

Actually his on panel greatest relative strength feat ever due to an adrenaline rush/amped mental state was momentarily restraining Durok. 10x amp..? lmaoo. Thor is NOT Hulk, and does NOT have the ability to genuinely increase his strength, as Stan Lee made clear in Thor 385.

.. Because you say so? lol

Adam had the power of another high end top tier character amping his power levels.. period. on top of that, he was in an enraged mentality.

It's among the most impressive showings he's ever had, and Thor has nothing comparable for physical formidability. WWIII BA>>B&T Thor pre Power Gem.

Adam dives through Thor's body before he can think.

This post is idiocy with a splash of denial and hypocrisy. Impressive Jelly how you can argue conclusively that Adam was amped but deny Thor is unable to through increased rage, using the same source material as evidence.

lol yeah i'm not sure how many people really feel wm=10x. but i DO think that is the intention of the thread starter. /shrug

Thor wins here.

Quite handily too.

Originally posted by Baziemarc123
That's incredible! any more trans tier feats for Thor?

Meh...
Too many to rehash.

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Meh...
Too many to rehash.

well yeah in classic time but not modern to my knowledge

Originally posted by Baziemarc123
well yeah in classic time but not modern to my knowledge
Here. Same series he actually beat Surtur. He may have or may not have been in WM. If he wasn't, they sure did play up his rage being scary as phukk. He seems to go on another level based on his rage.

http://i.imgur.com/P1y3mLRm.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/4MZOYJam.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/S6BG95Hm.jpg

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Here. Same series he actually beat Surtur. He may have or may not have been in WM. If he wasn't, they sure did play up his rage being scary as phukk. He seems to go on another level based on his rage.

http://i.imgur.com/P1y3mLRm.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/4MZOYJam.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/S6BG95Hm.jpg

LMAOOO Thor beating surtur who's arguably equal to Odin, or an Odin level being but "hurr durr thor doesnt have skyfather feats"

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
This post is idiocy with a splash of denial and hypocrisy. Impressive Jelly how you can argue conclusively that Adam was amped but deny Thor is unable to through increased rage, using the same source material as evidence.

Rage, you're such a delusionally pathetic Asartru worshipper that you are now comparing Thor being angry via an ability his creator gave him to go into berserker rage-- the same creator, Stan Lee, who also specifically states that he CANNOT literally increase his physical strength, on panel -- to Adam absorbing the power of another character who was presented as a high end top tier, and whose power was added to his own..?


Please, continue.

Your like in your late 20s raging over people disagreements about Superman exaggerated power levels. Relax.

Originally posted by Baziemarc123
Your like in your late 20s raging over people disagreements about Superman exaggerated power levels. Relax.

I meant what I said. Dont ask me that BS again until you ask your boyfriend Rage.

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Here. Same series he actually beat Surtur. He may have or may not have been in WM. If he wasn't, they sure did play up his rage being scary as phukk. He seems to go on another level based on his rage.

http://i.imgur.com/P1y3mLRm.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/4MZOYJam.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/S6BG95Hm.jpg

A raging Thor does what Thor and Odin could not do alone prior.

If this was you know who, we'd get pages about mental blocks and dynamic strength.

Anyways, Thor smashed Black Adam to pieces. I'm going to be done class in August, so I'm going to make a revamped Thor respect thread, of all his appearances. I'll include Jane as a subsection in this one. Thor's feats shit on every other Herald. ONLY Superman and maybe Surfer can hope to compete. I guess Hulk now (It was 7 years ago when I did the last one).

Originally posted by panthergod
Rage, you're such a delusionally pathetic Asartru worshipper that you are now comparing Thor being angry via an ability his creator gave him to go into berserker rage-- the same creator, Stan Lee, who also specifically states that he CANNOT literally increase his physical strength, on panel -- to Adam absorbing the power of another character who was presented as a high end top tier, and whose power was added to his own..?


Please, continue.



Why are you referencing Stan Lee quote as if it has weight in a scan from the late 90s? I'd LOVE to reference only Lee, his work on Thor is legendary and hopefully it influences future writers for centuries to come, and every comic book fan should read those Thor stories, but things...evolve.

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Here. Same series he actually beat Surtur. He may have or may not have been in WM. If he wasn't, they sure did play up his rage being scary as phukk. He seems to go on another level based on his rage.

http://i.imgur.com/P1y3mLRm.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/4MZOYJam.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/S6BG95Hm.jpg Originally posted by Baziemarc123
LMAOOO Thor beating surtur who's arguably equal to Odin, or an Odin level being but "hurr durr thor doesnt have skyfather feats"
Or Odin is weak as shit that he lost to a sword in the gut?

How about that?

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
A raging Thor does what Thor and Odin could not do alone prior.

If this was you know who, we'd get pages about mental blocks and dynamic strength.

Anyways, Thor smashed Black Adam to pieces. I'm going to be done class in August, so I'm going to make a revamped Thor respect thread, of all his appearances. I'll include Jane as a subsection in this one. Thor's feats shit on every other Herald. ONLY Superman and maybe Surfer can hope to compete. I guess Hulk now (It was 7 years ago when I did the last one).

I dont think ANY Herald fts are close to Thors - and Hulk over powers Abstracts and punch through time reversing everything across the Universe. Hold Celestials in place and fights team of Heralds. He is above Herald tier.

That comic had both Odin and Surter in the otherworld, yeah?

They all seemed to be depowered. At the very least the Odinforce had passed to Thor at the time.

Unless I'm thinking of a different comic.

Originally posted by krisblaze
That comic had both Odin and Surter in the otherworld, yeah?

They all seemed to be depowered. At the very least the Odinforce had passed to Thor at the time.

Unless I'm thinking of a different comic.
Different comic. Odin was a ***** as usual in that comic.

Originally posted by carver9
I dont think ANY Herald fts are close to Thors - and Hulk over powers Abstracts and punch through time reversing everything across the Universe. Hold Celestials in place and fights team of Heralds. He is above Herald tier.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Different comic. Odin was a ***** as usual in that comic.

Keep talking shit and Odin will ban you again.

Originally posted by krisblaze
Keep talking shit and Odin will ban you again.

Originally posted by carver9
I dont think ANY Herald fts are close to Thors - and Hulk over powers Abstracts and punch through time reversing everything across the Universe. Hold Celestials in place and fights team of Heralds. He is above Herald tier.

show me hulk punching through time across the universe.

Originally posted by ghostman
show me hulk punching through time across the universe.

Reread what I said.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Or Odin is weak as shit that he lost to a sword in the gut?

How about that?

Good showing for Thor.

Odin and Surtur must be weak.

Makes sense.

Originally posted by carver9
Reread what I said.

i did show me the feat. or better yet give me the issue number so i can see.

lets debunk this like your hulk bomb feat.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Good showing for Thor.

Odin and Surtur must be weak.

Makes sense.
No galaxies exploded.

Darkseid vs Superman.

Darkseid weak.

Same logic.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Good showing for Thor.

Odin and Surtur must be weak.

Makes sense.

IIRC thor also beat skyfather shiva. thor have alot of herald level feats

It pissed off Abhil so much he wrote enough letters to have them try and retcon it.

Now I know why he has such a boner for Thor! Makes sense.

Originally posted by carver9
I dont think ANY Herald fts are close to Thors - and Hulk over powers Abstracts and punch through time reversing everything across the Universe. Hold Celestials in place and fights team of Heralds. He is above Herald tier.



Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
It pissed off Abhil so much he wrote enough letters to have them try and retcon it.

Now I know why he has such a boner for Thor! Makes sense.


We can all at least agree Carv is full of it.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
It pissed off Abhil so much he wrote enough letters to have them try and retcon it.

Now I know why he has such a boner for Thor! Makes sense.
facepalm

If Durability increases the same factor as strength then Thor wins.
If it doesn't (Thor durability is kept the same) then BA can definitely win some due to speed and relentlessness.

Originally posted by ghostman
i did show me the feat. or better yet give me the issue number so i can see.

lets debunk this like your hulk bomb feat.

What Hulk bomb ft?

Originally posted by carver9
What Hulk bomb ft?



the hulk absorbing a bomb that kills every living thing on earth(including skyfathers) feat,


now where is that hulk punching feat that you seem to be dodging?

Originally posted by carver9
I dont think ANY Herald fts are close to Thors - and Hulk over powers Abstracts and punch through time reversing everything across the Universe. Hold Celestials in place and fights team of Heralds. He is above Herald tier. Come on guy.

Originally posted by ghostman
the hulk absorbing a bomb that kills every living thing on earth(including skyfathers) feat,


now where is that hulk punching feat that you seem to be dodging?

How did you debunk that showing?

Let's talk about the above please.

Originally posted by carver9
How did you debunk that showing?

Let's talk about the above please.

thats not what i originally asked for carver..


we already went through this

the bomb was going to kill only 50 million people in 3 different countries. it was simple hyperbole when it said it SHOULD kill any being on the planet. not every. debunked. hyperbole. along with you trying to scale it up to something thats totally not there.

Originally posted by ghostman
thats not what i originally asked for carver..


we already went through this

the bomb was going to kill only 50 million people in 3 different countries. it was simple hyperbole when it said it SHOULD kill any being on the planet. not every. debunked. hyperbole. along with you trying to scale it up to something thats totally not there.

Yep, it should kill ANY BEING ON THE PLANET. Glad we agreed there. Especially with a Skyfather being on the planet. .

Originally posted by carver9
Yep, it should kill ANY BEING ON THE PLANET. Glad we agreed there. Especially with a Skyfather being on the planet. .


LOL I love how you ignore the word should. its not certain carver it means its probable. any doesn't mean all. its hyperbole, nothing more. and add to the fact that it was stated to kill only 3 countries worth of people...... not the sky-father level feat you're so desperately searching for

BA

Thor one shots, nice

So are we in agreement that Thor's amp doesn't increase his durability?
Otherwise this would be a dumb thread.

Adam.

Still thor

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Still thor So do you believe that Thor's durability increases with this amp?

Originally posted by h1a8
So do you believe that Thor's durability increases with this amp?
not sure...

but he has a history of ridic dur/dam soak..