Marvel Zeus Vs current Supes

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riv6672
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Supes goads Zeus into physical combat, like Hulk did.
No prep.
No BFR.

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Insane Titan
Superman gets owned like Hulk did.

Inedian
Zeus

StiltmanFTW
Yeah, probably Zeus.

spetznaz

panthergod
Superman beats the shit out of Zeus.

tkitna
Zeus in a stomp

Scarlet315
Originally posted by Insane Titan
Superman gets owned like Hulk did. s

I think supes would get owned even worse as supes is susceptible to magic. Good fight though

RealityWarper
Zeus would one-shot Superman in a single lightning.

StiltmanFTW
Originally posted by riv6672
Supes goads Zeus into physical combat, like Hulk did.

carver9
Originally posted by RealityWarper
Zeus would one-shot Superman in a single lightning.

carver9
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW


Lightning charged fist?

DarkSaint85
So Zeus didn't just use physical means when he beat the HF out of Hulk?

StiltmanFTW
Originally posted by carver9
Lightning charged fist?

Not the same. But sure, perfectly usable here.

StiltmanFTW
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
So Zeus didn't just use physical means when he beat the HF out of Hulk?

Technically, no. He cheated a little, not to mention his initial attack.

Hulk had to tear through various Olympian guards before facing the boss at the end of the level, too.

Zeus would get raped in Hulk's place, lol.

Insane Titan
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
So Zeus didn't just use physical means when he beat the HF out of Hulk? He charged his fists, but basically yeah he punched the shit out of Hulk that bad his HF gave in.

zopzop
Originally posted by panthergod
Superman beats the shit out of Zeus.
Yup. Zeus get's the Darkseid treatment if SM is serious.

Baziemarc123
lol people comparing to darkseid to zeus?

well. I mean I don't think Power Girl would do this to Zeus

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leonidas
it's because dc and marvel zeus are typically viewed as relative equals and ds killed dc zeus....while ds was at less than full power.

regardless, i'd take zeus in this. there are definitely feats from both to suggest supes could win (lows from zeus, highs from superman), but i still choose to see zeus as a skyfather and beyond any heralds. /shrug

riv6672
This wasnt as bad as i thought.

DarthPlaguis12

twt
Supes.

panthergod
Zeus has nothing in his existence superior to Superman who's cutting loose. Whatsoever.

riv6672

carver9
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Technically, no. He cheated a little, not to mention his initial attack.

Hulk had to tear through various Olympian guards before facing the boss at the end of the level, too.

Zeus would get raped in Hulk's place, lol.

thumb up

Someone paid attention to detail. Superman and Hulk would still die to Zeus though. Even if they teamed up.

DarkSaint85
thumb up
So that doesn't happen here.

carver9
Naah, it doesnt. He still stomps, with ease.

StiltmanFTW
He does, unless Superman remembers about his Flash-lv speed and reflexes laughing out loud

He won't, of course. Clark believes the sole purpose of those powers is to talk with Flash over a meal. Gay.

RealityWarper
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
He does, unless Superman remembers about his Flash-lv speed and reflexes laughing out loud

He won't, of course. Clark believes the sole purpose of those powers is to talk with Flash over a meal. Gay.

laughing thumb up

riv6672
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Gay.
Thats 84.

StiltmanFTW
Originally posted by riv6672
Thats 84.

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panthergod
So no one can actually make a valid argument as to how Zeus wins..?

Didn't think so.

Superman tanks his attacks and beats the shit out of him.

Baziemarc123
Originally posted by panthergod
So no one can actually make a valid argument as to how Zeus wins..?

Didn't think so.

Superman tanks his attacks and beats the shit out of him.

..no one on this forum takes you seriously...

panthergod
Originally posted by Baziemarc123
..no one on this forum takes you seriously...

First, even if that were true, lol, you take battleboard forums seriously. lmaoo. that's first of all.

second, you're a clown. You're in no position to judge anyone on this site.

third, you have the reasoning of a teenage girl. Be a man and speak for yourself instead of using a catty b*tch's argument.

forth, since you're too p*ssy to debate the matter at hand since you know I'll upend you with ease, don't respond to me in this thread again.

So anyway, current Superman is absolutely more formidable than Zeus, on the merits. stronger, faster, can withstand any attack Zeus can muster, and has wrecked easily comparable characters at a lesser level of power.

carver9
No one.

panthergod
Any response to me from a that isn't an argument is a concession, at this rate. smokin'

carver9
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Vampire..

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Teeth...

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Sin I AM

Baziemarc123
Originally posted by panthergod
First, even if that were true, lol, you take battleboard forums seriously. lmaoo. that's first of all.

second, you're a clown. You're in no position to judge anyone on this site.

third, you have the reasoning of a teenage girl. Be a man and speak for yourself instead of using a catty b*tch's argument.

forth, since you're too p*ssy to debate the matter at hand since you know I'll upend you with ease, don't respond to me in this thread again.

So anyway, current Superman is absolutely more formidable than Zeus, on the merits. stronger, faster, can withstand any attack Zeus can muster, and has wrecked easily comparable characters at a lesser level of power.

supes been hurt by magical lightning tons of times in his continuity, also triggered much?

panthergod
Originally posted by carver9
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Vampire..

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Teeth...

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Ok...?

None of those are current Superman.. or even close, really.

plus, in DC, Divine power is related to but distinct from magick. Hence the magickal aspect of Zeus shown in the SHAZAM series.

Either way, He's withstood blasts from Modru boosted with all the magick in the Universe and blasts from the combined power of Olympus and several other Universe-level cosmic+divine+magick power sources.

Plus, we already know that DC magick is more potent than Marvel magick, and puny small god magick lightning from Marvel that has matched Zeus' has directly FAILED to activate his magick weakness.

celeyhyga17
laughing out loud

panthergod
Originally posted by celeyhyga17
laughing out loud

Fact. Superman's durability>> small god lightning. laugh in order to hide those tears.

Baziemarc123
A tractor recently ran through Superman

tkitna
Originally posted by Baziemarc123
A tractor recently ran through Superman

laughing

carver9
Originally posted by panthergod
Ok...?

None of those are current Superman.. or even close, really.

plus, in DC, Divine power is related to but distinct from magick. Hence the magickal aspect of Zeus shown in the SHAZAM series.

Either way, He's withstood blasts from Modru boosted with all the magick in the Universe and blasts from the combined power of Olympus and several other Universe-level cosmic+divine+magick power sources.

Plus, we already know that DC magick is more potent than Marvel magick, and puny small god magick lightning from Marvel that has matched Zeus' has directly FAILED to activate his magick weakness.

What's the difference between current Supes and the Superman that we seen before New 52?

celeyhyga17
Originally posted by panthergod
Fact. Superman's durability>> small god lightning. laugh in order to hide those tears.
Oh hush up, else I fling some magic teeth at u.

riv6672

MrMind
Originally posted by Baziemarc123
A tractor recently ran through Superman

a black penisia ran through your mom

Pillow Biter
Let's put the magic weakness aside for now--it's pretty unpredictable.

I'd also say that given the near-parity of Marvel Skyfathers, Zeus would be prone to the same kinds of swings we see from Odin.

This leads me to believe that while Zeus is heavily favored overall--throughout history--there is some overlap. A high-end Superman portrayal might beat a low-end Marvel Skyfather portrayal, the kind of rare portrayal where the Skyfather can get into a competitive fight with a top end hero, e.g., Thor vs. Odin, etc.

riv6672

Pillow Biter
Agreed. But I have no idea how to quantify it. It's effect, and the degree of the effect, seem to be entirely at the whim of a given writer. It's basically used randomly to advance the plotline. Magic has and has not been a factor when Superman has been fighting deities. There's no real rhyme or reason.

So it makes sense to discuss the fight ignoring the weakness, and then to just remember that it could somehow become a factor in any fight.

One pattern I've seen is that writers tend to feel that they have no choice but to invoke some degree of magic weakness when there is an actual incantation or spell directed at Superman--though he may still overcome it.

Divine magic has tended to invoke the magic weakness with far less consistency when the divinely-powered opponents are not explicitly casting spells. Still, it has sometimes been invoked when just throwing down with a god or demi-god. There are definitely no hard rules here.

riv6672

Baziemarc123
Originally posted by panthergod
Fact. Superman's durability>> small god lightning. laugh in order to hide those tears.


Supes got stomped by someone whos lightning is an insect to zeus, your daddy isnt winning this


Originally posted by bluewaterrider
Really?

Was it worse than Livewire one-shotting Superman as she did here?


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Source: Flash #237 Volume 2
Circa: April 2008

panthergod
So Livewire outperforming small god magick lightning against a less powerful version of Superman proves what here..?

riv6672
Originally posted by Baziemarc123
Supes got stomped by someone whos lightning is an insect to zeus, your daddy isnt winning this
Love me some Livewire. thumb up

quanchi112
Zeus destroys him.

abhilegend
Zeus once got defeated by a spear thrown at him too.

Low showings are there for any character.

Baziemarc123
"less powerful version"

right because superman's became so much stronger after that.

quanchi112

Rage.Of.Olympus
Zeus beats him to death even easier than he beat Hulk and that shit was under Pak, Hulk's very own Loeb.

Baziemarc123
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Zeus beats him to death even easier than he beat Hulk and that shit was under Pak, Hulk's very own Loeb.

while zeus is considered skyfather, he doesnt have too many feats like odin

quanchi112
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Zeus beats him to death even easier than he beat Hulk and that shit was under Pak, Hulk's very own Loeb. thumb up

abhilegend
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Zeus beats him to death even easier than he beat Hulk and that shit was under Pak, Hulk's very own Loeb.
Pak was even more enamored with Zeus at that point.

Outside Pak, Zeus is hardly that impressive.

quanchi112
Originally posted by abhilegend
Pak was even more enamored with Zeus at that point.

Outside Pak, Zeus is hardly that impressive. He has always been a peer to Odin so he was always impressive, kid.

panthergod
Originally posted by Baziemarc123
"less powerful version"

right because superman's became so much stronger after that.

Yes. He literally merged two equivalent near Skyfather level versions of himself. That's current Superman.

Otherwise by direct comparison, Livewire>Thor who's lightning=Zeus.

Superman is operating a peak capacity here.

Zeus isn't powerful enough to take him out for a majority.

Baziemarc123
Originally posted by panthergod
Yes. He literally merged two equivalent near Skyfather level versions of himself. That's current Superman.

Otherwise by direct comparison, Livewire>Thor who's lightning=Zeus.

Superman is operating a peak capacity here.

Zeus isn't powerful enough to take him out for a majority.

ENCHANTRESS defeated rebirth superman with her magic, zeus would do it worse.

panthergod
Originally posted by Baziemarc123
ENCHANTRESS defeated rebirth superman with her magic, zeus would do it worse.
Zeus isn't a magician.

Again, magick is not identical to divine power, and DC magick>>Marvel's in potency.

Anymore BS arguments you want to float?

Because you have NOTHING in Zeus' existence that Superman cannot overcome.

panthergod

panthergod
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Zeus beats him to death even easier than he beat Hulk and that shit was under Pak, Hulk's very own Loeb.
.. Still furious that puny small god magick lightnining is too weak to disrupt Superman's invulnerability, eh? laughing out loud

Superman would catch Zeus' punch, crush his fist, and beat him into submission much worse than, say, Ares did.

Baziemarc123
Originally posted by panthergod
Zeus isn't a magician.

Again, magick is not identical to divine power, and DC magick>>Marvel's in potency.

Anymore BS arguments you want to float?

Because you have NOTHING in Zeus' existence that Superman cannot overcome.

"DC magick>>Marvel's in potency."

prove that claim right. show scans supporting that.

Marvel magic is far more powerful than Dc's

panthergod
Originally posted by quanchi112
He has always been a peer to Odin so he was always impressive, kid.

Zeus shares a title with Odin. He is not equal to him.

Baziemarc123
Zeus uses divine magic which is far stronger than Enchantress

panthergod
Originally posted by Baziemarc123
"DC magick>>Marvel's in potency."

prove that claim right. show scans supporting that.

Marvel magic is far more powerful than Dc's
JLA/Avengers.

DC's cosmic hierarchy is far more magickal than Marvel's.

panthergod
Originally posted by Baziemarc123
Zeus uses divine magic which is far stronger than Enchantress
He's not a magician...period.

Divine energy is mystical not necessarily magickal. There are distinctions, not that you are capable of grasping that.

Either way, Superman withstands magick far more potent than Zeus anyway.

Baziemarc123
Originally posted by panthergod
He's not a magician...period.

Divine energy is mystical not necessarily magickal. There are distinctions, not that you are capable of grasping that.

Either way, Superman withstands magick far more potent than Zeus anyway.

yet he failed to withstand enchantress


KILLER FROST casually drained him off his solar energy/life force, zeus would have no trouble doing so

quanchi112

panthergod
Originally posted by Baziemarc123
yet he failed to withstand enchantress


Enchantress is a magician. Zeus is not.


Zeus isn't Killer Frost. Where has he displayed high end energy manipulation abilities in combat?

Baziemarc123
He removed Hulk's healing factor by manipulating his gamma energy temporarily?

panthergod

panthergod
Originally posted by Baziemarc123
He removed Hulk's healing factor by manipulating his gamma energy temporarily?

where was this stated?

Baziemarc123
Originally posted by panthergod
where was this stated?

how else would you remove hulk's healing factor?

panthergod
Originally posted by Baziemarc123
how else would you remove hulk's healing factor?
.. so you have nothing then. Got it.

carver9
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Zeus beats him to death even easier than he beat Hulk and that shit was under Pak, Hulk's very own Loeb.

thumb up

Baziemarc123
Originally posted by panthergod
.. so you have nothing then. Got it.

you can't grasp anything, that's the thing

panthergod
Originally posted by Baziemarc123
you can't grasp anything, that's the thing

Superman has withstood attacks with the combined power of the Olympian pantheon... and that was only a fraction of the power of the attack.

So what does the Hulk have to do with Superman..?

Oh, and BTW.. Hulk wanted to lose against Zeus. That showing is LAUGHABLE as an argument for Zeus to defeat Superman.

abhilegend
Someone post Zeus begging Ares to save him from Mikaboshi.

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There you go.

Baziemarc123
Mikaboshi/Chaos King is multiversal, please TELL ME you're not using him as an argument for Superman

abhilegend
Also Zeus vs Mikaboshi and then Hercules/Ares vs Mikaboshi.

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StiltmanFTW
Originally posted by Baziemarc123
Mikaboshi/Chaos King is multiversal, please TELL ME you're not using him as an argument for Superman

It's more about how Ares (without gauntlets) managed to knock Zeus down on his ass twice in one encounter, lol.

Baziemarc123
Zeus was holding back and not willing to fight though?


How does this all relate to Superman exactly?

StiltmanFTW
Was he holding back his durability as well, lol?

http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix5/zeus_olympian6.jpg

One good showing doesn't exactly make him some big badass.

Baziemarc123
LOL of course, it doesn't. at all

Mikaboshi took Zeus down OFF GUARD WITH HIS poisionous TOUCH which obviously have an affect against olympians etc

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abhilegend
But not on Hercules and Ares?

Baziemarc123
Originally posted by abhilegend
But not on Hercules and Ares?

so he completely surprise attacks Zeus. Basically knifes him in the back from surprise.

Then he takes on both Ares and Hercules and seems to be doing a good job of whupping them before they get it together and...bust a couple of his hands, basically. That's all. And off he goes.

I'm not sure what this shows, either way. Mikabushi has enough power to seriously hurt Zeus, when he attacks him completely by surprise and Zeus is completely unprepared...and Mikabushi is strong enough to do a decent job beating up Hercules and Ares until they bust his hands.

the Darkone
Zeus regardless of his showings is a sky father who can amp at will, like Odin Zeus can amp beyond his physical stats to what levels unknown but still above Superman pay grade. Zeus will give superman the same beat down he did Hulk but much worse, since Superman weakness against magic is worse than Hulk, Superman will get fubr. That should be against any sky father level being including Darkseid

Baziemarc123
Horrible and vague example as to how supes contributes to this

SquallX
Go back and read what a weakened New 52 Kal did under Morrison in just 25 books.

Rage.Of.Olympus
I think Superman fans might be the worst on the internet tbh. You can make a thread of Superman vs. Eternity, and it would hit 25 pages. Abhiligend would still try and lowball, while PG foams at the mouth etc.

I guess all the baiting by the random socks doesn't help but jeez. The Gamma Italians were pretty bad but I think they all died from trying to become the Hulk by microwaving their balls and the hardcore Thor fans are in Valhalla now from Aaron's Jane.

panthergod
Originally posted by the Darkone
Zeus regardless of his showings is a sky father who can amp at will, like Odin Zeus can amp beyond his physical stats to what levels unknown but still above Superman pay grade.

Where has Zeus done this?


Except not, as DC magick>>Marvel magick, We've seen Marvel god lghtning utterly fail to disrupt his durability, and Superman withstands attacks FAR beyond anything Zeus has ever done by orders of magnitude.


Except it isn't,as Superman is physically superior to Darkseid.

panthergod
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
I think Superman fans might be the worst on the internet tbh. You can make a thread of Superman vs. Eternity, and it would hit 25 pages. Abhiligend would still try and lowball, while PG foams at the mouth etc.

I guess all the baiting by the random socks doesn't help but jeez. The Gamma Italians were pretty bad but I think they all died from trying to become the Hulk by microwaving their balls and the hardcore Thor fans are in Valhalla now from Aaron's Jane.

Translation: you can't even try to debate this subject on the merits so you go on your extended Thorbag whinefest.

Yes, Superman humiliated your Asatru fetish object. Dumped him into the dirt his abusive father humped to conceive him.

RealityWarper
Superman gets one-shot by Zeus' lightning.

Superman has a too bad record against lightning and magic to pretend being a threat to Zeus.

panthergod
Originally posted by RealityWarper
Superman gets one-shot by Zeus' lightning.

Superman has a too bad record against lightning and magic to pretend being a threat to Zeus.

Actually, Superman has a 100% success record against Marvel's puny small god magick.

RealityWarper
Originally posted by panthergod
Actually, Superman has a 100% success record against Marvel's puny small god magick.


Zeus' lightning would vaporize Superman.

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Baziemarc123
Where it was it shown in n52/rebirth that Dc's magic is more potent than Marvels? or did PG made up that notion again?

panthergod
Originally posted by RealityWarper
Zeus' lightning would vaporize Superman.

laughing out loud
..Just like Thor's did?




So... more irrelevant deflections that are irrlevant to this thread..? that's all you have now..?

I accept your concession. laughing out loud

abhilegend
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
I think Superman fans might be the worst on the internet tbh. You can make a thread of Superman vs. Eternity, and it would hit 25 pages. Abhiligend would still try and lowball, while PG foams at the mouth etc.

I guess all the baiting by the random socks doesn't help but jeez. The Gamma Italians were pretty bad but I think they all died from trying to become the Hulk by microwaving their balls and the hardcore Thor fans are in Valhalla now from Aaron's Jane.
This is hilarious.

You will go on for longer for Thor threads.

panthergod
Originally posted by Baziemarc123
Where it was it shown in n52/rebirth that Dc's magic is more potent than Marvels? or did PG made up that notion again?

It's been directly shown in JLA/Avengers. magick in DC far more central to the structure of reality than it is for Marvel.

Thor's divine energy did not disrupt Superman's durability.

Rebirth is showing that all DC continuity happened. Superman is among the few that remember everything.

Baziemarc123
Originally posted by panthergod
It's been directly shown in JLA/Avengers. magick in DC far more central to the structure of reality than it is for Marvel.

Thor's divine energy did not disrupt Superman's durability.

Rebirth is showing that all DC continuity happened. Superman is among the few that remember everything.

so you're relying on a dubious canonicity on forums now?

I mean the rules even stated crossovers aren't allowed, or did your brain not grasp that like it doesn't grasp anything?

panthergod
Originally posted by Baziemarc123
so you're relying on a dubious canonicity on forums now?


I'm relying on solid canonical fact.

Couldn't care less what you or anyone else wants to lie about due to bias.



I'm not interested in pretending facts don't exist because Marvel fanboys hate that DC characters do well in direct comparisons.

Even trying to go that route is a concession on the matter at hand.

Baziemarc123
Originally posted by panthergod
I'm relying on solid canonical fact.

Couldn't care less what you or anyone else wants to lie about due to bias.



I'm not interested in pretending facts don't exist because Marvel fanboys hate that DC characters do well in direct comparisons.

Even trying to go that route is a concession on the matter at hand.

the entire DCU was rebooted years later after that crossover. and so was Marvel

panthergod
Originally posted by Baziemarc123
the entire DCU was rebooted years later after that crossover. and so was Marvel

.. So you're arguing everything before Secret Wars is non canon for Marvel..?


laughing out loud

What I said stands.

And Rebirth is showing that all past versions of the DCU happened and are canon. Dr. Manhattan took 10 years of memories and history from most of the DCU, post Flashpoint, but that doesn't apply to Superman anymore.

Baziemarc123
Originally posted by panthergod
.. So you're arguing everything before Secret Wars is non canon for Marvel..?


laughing out loud

What I said stands.

you're arguing for "CURRENT" Superman, so yeah. don't get salty that someone's doing the same

panthergod
Originally posted by Baziemarc123
you're arguing for "CURRENT" Superman, so yeah. don't get salty that someone's doing the same

Current Superman is a a combination of of Pre-Crisis, Post Crisis/Zero Hour/Birthright, Post Infinite Crisis, and nu52/Post Flashpoint.

So yes, I'm arguing current Superman.

You, on the other hand, now are disqualified from citing anything from Zeus pre Secret Wars, using your own reasoning.

Baziemarc123
Originally posted by panthergod
Current Superman is a a combination of of Pre-Crisis, Post Crisis/Zero Hour/Birthright, Post Infinite Crisis, and nu52/Post Flashpoint.

So yes, I'm arguing current Superman.

You, on the other hand, now are disqualified from citing anything from Zeus pre Secret Wars, using your own reasoning.

Current Superman didn't get his entire history back, he only got some of it.

panthergod
Originally posted by Baziemarc123
Current Superman didn't get his entire history back, he only got some of it.
uh-huh laughing out loud smokin'

quanchi112
Originally posted by abhilegend
This is hilarious.

You will go on for longer for Thor threads. Rage owns you every single time you attempt to lie. Halt.

Baziemarc123
Originally posted by panthergod
uh-huh laughing out loud smokin'

Uh huh nothing, you would know if you had actually read action comics

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panthergod
Originally posted by Baziemarc123
Uh huh nothing, you would know if you had actually read action comics

http://comiconverse.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/Action-Comics-978-collage.jpg

Did you think that proving me 100% correct was supposed to counter my stance..? laughing out loud

please, continue.

RealityWarper
Originally posted by panthergod
laughing out loud
..Just like Thor's did?




So... more irrelevant deflections that are irrlevant to this thread..? that's all you have now..?

I accept your concession. laughing out loud

The concession that a weak lightning compared to Thor and Zeus one-shot Superman ?

Zeus will vaporise Superman.

panthergod
Originally posted by RealityWarper
The concession that a weak lightning compared to Thor and Zeus one-shot Superman ?

Zeus will vaporise Superman.

Everything you're referencing has been refuted and is 100% irrelevant to this thread.
1) not current Superman
2) explicitly magickal ligthtning--Atlantis is the source of Earth amgick-- Zeius is not a magician. The differences have been explained.
3)Marvel god lightning that specifically matched Zeus', like other universes Kryptonite, does not disrupt his durability.


Meanwhile, a spear pierced Zeus.

Therefore, Superman evaporates his head with a punch using your reasoning.

riv6672
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
I think Superman fans might be the worst on the internet tbh. You can make a thread of Superman vs. Eternity, and it would hit 25 pages. Abhiligend would still try and lowball, while PG foams at the mouth etc.

I guess all the baiting by the random socks doesn't help but jeez. The Gamma Italians were pretty bad but I think they all died from trying to become the Hulk by microwaving their balls and the hardcore Thor fans are in Valhalla now from Aaron's Jane.
Its fun for me to read, though, the posts i can, at least, as PG and RW arent entertaining enough to take off ignore.
abhi though, provides enough humor to cover that.

A simple, fairly respectful thread reduced to infantile name calling...up up and away, abhi.

RealityWarper
Originally posted by panthergod
Everything you're referencing has been refuted and is 100% irrelevant to this thread.

The bullshit is real...




Still half of his power and he goes down the same way than post-crisis, that shows consistency at least.




Zeus lightning is magical by nature. Try harder.




It does, actually but you still like to argue Ex Culo.




That still lack context.





Nope.

Using my knowledge, Zeus obliterate Superman without trying.

Zeus is as powerful as Odin at his peak and his lightning is vastly more powerful than anything Superman can handle.

And Superman will not even damage Zeus physically.

He is a skyfather as powerful as Odin.

By the way did you learn how to make an addition since ? XD

RealityWarper
Originally posted by riv6672
Its fun for me to read, though, the posts i can, at least, as PG and RW arent entertaining enough to take off ignore.

Your posts are worthless and you are a troll.

quanchi112
Originally posted by RealityWarper
Your posts are worthless and you are a troll. thumb up

Baziemarc123
panthergod so far didn't rebuttal how many times it's been shown of fodder lightning hurting supes except claim how all of them doesn't matter since magic in dc is superior to marvel according to him

RealityWarper
Originally posted by quanchi112
thumb up

I reported his threadas a bait thread because that's all it is.

Originally posted by Baziemarc123
panthergod so far didn't rebuttal how many times it's been shown of fodder lightning hurting supes except claim how all of them doesn't matter since magic in dc is superior to marvel according to him

Like usual.

He is arguing Ex Culo.

riv6672
Originally posted by Baziemarc123
panthergod so far didn't rebuttal how many times it's been shown of fodder lightning hurting supes except claim how all of them doesn't matter since magic in dc is superior to marvel according to him
So the usual, then.

Baziemarc123
Here's more scans of LIVEWIRE lightning CONSISTENTLY hurting Superman. what's the excuse now for this?

https://s8.postimg.cc/brkvhwpc1/image.jpg

https://s8.postimg.cc/dw58j119h/image.jpg




Superman fanboys can't accept that a single lightning of Zeus WHICH IS FAR superior to livewire will incinerate the shit out of superman

riv6672

celeyhyga17
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
and the hardcore Thor fans are in Valhalla now from Aaron's Jane.
Jane Thor was alright. Was fun to see Odinson w/o mew mew.
"Are u the god of hammers?"
Only snowflake misogynists get mad.

Get at me Dambo!!!

riv6672
Originally posted by celeyhyga17
mew mew.
One of my favorite MCU moments. thumb up

panthergod
Originally posted by RealityWarper
The bullshit is real...


Yes, your bullshit is quite laughable as usual..


A less powerful Superman operating at levels and mindset nowhere near to where he will here.

But thanks for the concession that that showing is irrelevant, as it was a far less powerful Superman.



.. no more than Thor's lightning, which doesn't activate his magick weakness.

small god magick from a small world isn't potent enough.





What I stated is fact.

Marvel's small god magick lightning does not weaken Superman.

and anyway, his mindset means his standard magick weakness can be overcome anyway.




provide it then.




Facts.


Your knowledge is as laughable as your reasoning skills.



Prove that Zeus=Odin in power and feats. Then prove that Zeus is superior to the entire DC Olympian PAntheon.



Prove that claim.

Darkseid(Who is FAR above Zeus in power--yeah, you heard me)
Disciple
Mordru w/Universal Magick
Earth Man (w/ most of the Legion's combined power)
Superboy Prime


Prove your claim that Zeus is more durable than those characters, all of which Superman has damaged.


Blatant lie.

By this reasoning, all Death Gods/Hell lords are equal in power because they share a title.

Hey Zuras and Prime Eternal Ikaris (equal to Zuras)are equal to Odin as well, right? laughing out loud

panthergod
Originally posted by Baziemarc123
panthergod so far didn't rebuttal how many times it's been shown of fodder lightning hurting supes except claim how all of them doesn't matter since magic in dc is superior to marvel according to him

no, low showings of a less powerful Superman are irrelevant to a more powerful Superman. Not complicated.

Current Superman takes 3-4 kryptonians full kill HV blasts.. while weakened by Kryptonite.

but you're citing pre-Flashpoint Superman his standard base levels? lmaoo.

panthergod
Originally posted by Baziemarc123
Here's more scans of LIVEWIRE lightning CONSISTENTLY hurting Superman. what's the excuse now for this?

https://s8.postimg.cc/brkvhwpc1/image.jpg

https://s8.postimg.cc/dw58j119h/image.jpg




Superman fanboys can't accept that a single lightning of Zeus WHICH IS FAR superior to livewire will incinerate the shit out of superman

What excuse does anyone have to make..?

Where did Zeus fight livewire, in order for you to claim hpow they compare..? I'll wait for the scan of them meeting.

Either way, It's still a much less powerful Superman than the current version.. making it irrelevant. Nothing you r can say changes that.

Nowadays Superman tanks blasts from Guardian level Hal Jordan. and oh yeah, withstands the combined power of the ENTIRE OLYMPIAN PANTHEON.


Please. Argue that Marvel Zeus>> DC Olympus+Atlantis+CPB+Speed Force

NemeBro
What context for Zeus being pierced by a spear isn't being provided? A random no-name giant impaled Zeus with a thrown spear. That's the context. IIRC it wasn't made out of some anti-god material, and the giant was just one of many being fodderized by Hulk and Hercules. Scratch that, this giant is phucking one-shot by ARES.

http://i.imgur.com/TIlbiwQ.jpg

If cherrypicking showings for Superman to claim Zeus can incinerate him is okay, then there is nothing wrong with pointing out Zeus being put down by garbage fodder would result in Superman two-piecing him tbh. smile|

Baziemarc123
Originally posted by panthergod
What excuse does anyone have to make..?

Where did Zeus fight livewire, in order for you to claim hpow they compare..? I'll wait for the scan of them meeting.

Either way, It's still a much less powerful Superman than the current version.. making it irrelevant. Nothing you r can say changes that.

Nowadays Superman tanks blasts from Guardian level Hal Jordan. and oh yeah, withstands the combined power of the ENTIRE OLYMPIAN PANTHEON.


Please. Argue that Marvel Zeus>> DC Olympus+Atlantis+CPB+Speed Force

zeus has skyfather divine lightning which is FAR stronger than livewire

panthergod
Originally posted by Baziemarc123
zeus has skyfather divine lightning which is FAR stronger than livewire
Circular logic.

Which issue did they directly compare again for your circular reasoning to be anything other than the joke that it is..? title, issue number, page and panel..?

Thor's godly divine lightning, which ABSOLUTELY has matched Zeus' and is from the ssame universe, FAILED to activate the magick weakness.

Which is a more valid comparison, a God from the same universe tnhat Zeus himself has fought..?

or an entirely separate character who outperformed a character who matched Zeus against Superman..?

There is precedent for Sueprman's weaknesses to not carry over into another universe ie Kryptonite(Luthor had the coach those MU characters RM on how to create mainstream DCU Kryptonite).

I'll wait. and no, titles aren't an argument.


Not to mention--- no matter what, those showings are irrelevant since Superman was WELL below his current levels there.

carver9
Surprised this hasn't been posted

hhttps://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/7/75182/4347973-4486206167-42979.jpg
https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/7/75182/4347974-3697736528-42979.jpg

That is against standard lighting. This lightning bolt would have killed Superman...

https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11123/111235134/4956628-hulkvszeus01621.jpg

carver9
Also, Superman before new 52=Current Supes.

bluewaterrider
Originally posted by panthergod


Nowadays Superman ... withstands the combined power of the ENTIRE OLYMPIAN PANTHEON.


Please. Argue that Marvel Zeus>> DC Olympus+Atlantis+CPB+Speed Force




I'm too curious not to ask:

Where did all of the above happen?

Can anyone provide scans, or issue numbers, or at least explain what happened well enough that the episodes referred to can be tracked down?

bluewaterrider
I see my posting scans in an altogether different thread inadvertently affected this one. Although it's true that Livewire one-shotted Superman in Flash 237, I don't think it's necessarily for the reasons people seem to think it is in this thread.

RealityWarper
Originally posted by panthergod
Yes, your bullshit is quite laughable as usual..

"ok"

You will continue to make-upp context like usual.



Superman has no feats that put him in the same park as Zeus.



The said Superman whom has better feats than Superman in Rebirth. Try again.




Stop trying to redefine the terms, you are the only one buying that shit.

Superman is vulneralbe to all magical abilities.







That's made-up bullshit. I don't even need to address that.



We don't know how strong the giants are.




You are projectign again. Try harder.



This isn't needed too.

It is stated as fact in the comics.





What for ? I don't even need to do that.





A combined attack of Masterson with Mjolnir + She-hulk + Namor did nothing to Zeus at all.

Not even a scratch.





Pure bullshit.

This is what REAL Darkseid is to galactus:

https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-2fb22724a578a4b42529d32523eb1de3-c


This is what Zeus lightning did to Galactus:

https://i.imgur.com/psJEowm.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/DQLbpPp.jpg

The rest of the character that you mentionned are just for the sake of your Argumentum Verbosium. I don't even need to debunk the bullshit.

And Mordru never throwed a magical attack capable to destroy one universe at Superman. That's pure bullshit.

A magical weakling like Atlas was literally able to humiliate Superman.




Zeus and Odin are stronger than Thanos. That's enough.




I's not about the title FFS.

Zeus is stated as Odin's equal in the comics. That's not even a discussion.



More strawmen, bub.

I've never said it was about the title in the first place but you chosen to interpretate it that way. Nice lack of reading skills again.

Originally posted by carver9
Surprised this hasn't been posted

hhttps://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/7/75182/4347973-4486206167-42979.jpg

https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/7/75182/4347974-3697736528-42979.jpg

That is against standard lighting. This lightning bolt would have killed Superman...

https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11123/111235134/4956628-hulkvszeus01621.jpg

Well played Carver ! thumb up

Originally posted by NemeBro
What context for Zeus being pierced by a spear isn't being provided? A random no-name giant impaled Zeus with a thrown spear. That's the context. IIRC it wasn't made out of some anti-god material, and the giant was just one of many being fodderized by Hulk and Hercules. Scratch that, this giant is phucking one-shot by ARES.

http://i.imgur.com/TIlbiwQ.jpg

If cherrypicking showings for Superman to claim Zeus can incinerate him is okay, then there is nothing wrong with pointing out Zeus being put down by garbage fodder would result in Superman two-piecing him tbh. smile|

Maybe Superman being beaten by a gargabe magical being like Atlas.

https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/0/8190/522644-superman_021.jpg

Baziemarc123
Panthergod's getting stomped on this thread lmao

RealityWarper
Originally posted by Baziemarc123
Panthergod's getting stomped on this thread lmao

I'm not even trying.

Baziemarc123
Yeah Superman SUPPOSEDLY tanked the "combined" power of the olympian, but he also got ROCKED by aquaman.

Thanos, Zeus, nor Odin would even move from aquaman hit.

zeus is on a whole another level in physical terms

https://s8.postimg.cc/5zpt7stip/image.png

RealityWarper
Originally posted by Baziemarc123
Yeah Superman SUPPOSEDLY tanked the "combined" power of the olympian, but he also got ROCKED by aquaman.

Thanos, Zeus, nor Odin would even move from aquaman hit.

zeus is on a whole another level in physical terms

https://s8.postimg.cc/5zpt7stip/image.png

He got HUMILIATED BY ATLAS !

Baziemarc123
and here's a character name Anguish who can destroy cars and small walls and was able to beat Superman ass Ko'ing him

https://s8.postimg.cc/wyy9gk7wh/5268032-superman-zone_017.jpg


I can go on and on, I have tons. Superman's average is consistently FARRRRRRRRR below herald tier. but superman fans cherry pick his "high ends" ignoring the thousands of low ends he has

RealityWarper
Originally posted by Baziemarc123
and here's a character name Anguish who can destroy cars and small walls and was able to beat Superman ass Ko'ing him

https://s8.postimg.cc/wyy9gk7wh/5268032-superman-zone_017.jpg


I can go on and on, I have tons. Superman's average is consistently FARRRRRRRRR below herald tier. but superman fans cherry pick his "high ends" ignoring the thousands of low ends he has

Agreed. thumb up

cdtm
Zeus was amped by Chaos King, and Darkseid's power created constructs that Norrin had to bail him out of. Galactus also failed to kill Darkseid.

bluewaterrider
Originally posted by panthergod


Nowadays Superman ... withstands the combined power of the ENTIRE OLYMPIAN PANTHEON.


Please. Argue that Marvel Zeus>> DC Olympus+Atlantis+CPB+Speed Force


I'm too curious not to ask:

Where did the bolded part above happen?

Can you provide scans, or issue numbers, or at least explain what happened well enough that the episodes referred to can be tracked down?

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