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Hand-to-hand only.

Can Bruce take them both?

Bruce after a tough fight

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW

Can Bruce take them both?

At the same time......no

One of my most hated DC characters against my two favorite DC characters. Hmmmm. Nightwing and Red Hood.

Originally posted by Vanguard
At the same time......no

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Hand-to-hand only.

Can Bruce take them both?
Bruce beats them worse than he did Amazons and Atlanteans.

Nightwing already beat him one on one.

Originally posted by Zack M
Nightwing already beat him one on one.

But that was before Bruce got his new, undamaged body... right?

Also, it's NOT their only fight. Bruce was handling Dick with ease in Batman #600, for example.

I honestly don't think he wins this.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
But that was before Bruce got his new, undamaged body... right?

Also, it's NOT their only fight. Bruce was handling Dick with ease in Batman #600, for example.

This happened not that long ago. Both of them weren't holding back. This is the same fight where Bruce split a motorcycle in half with a bat kick. Lol

Red Hood is fighting Batman a few months from now and is more than a match for Bruce, too. Although, I'd still give the edge to Batman.

Originally posted by Zack M
This happened not that long ago. Both of them weren't holding back. This is the same fight where Bruce split a motorcycle in half with a bat kick. Lol

Red Hood is fighting Batman a few months from now and is more than a match for Bruce, too. Although, I'd still give the edge to Batman.

I know which fight you were referring to. It was still before Bruce's restoration.

Bane beat and hanged Jason, Dick and Damian... yet Bruce has proven TWICE he can still beat him in a hand-to-hand combat, even if he's overloaded on Venom.

https://s15.postimg.cc/detp9q36z/Red_Hood14.jpghost image

Alright, Bane was watered down. But I felt the need to post it.

Just as I feel the need to post what happened next:

https://i.imgur.com/AzK7Y9M.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/TfLZMMV.jpg

Batman, Azrael, Cassandra, and Nightwing are at the top, imo. In that order, too.

A combo of Jason and Nighty will still take a healthy majority from Batman, unless he has prep.

^^^Cassandra seems a better/more naturally gifted MA than Batman.

NW is a better leader and gymnast.

Barbara and Tim are better at computers.

Damian is whinier.

Sorry, it goes Azrael, Cassandra, Batman, Nightwing/Jason.

Originally posted by Zack M
Sorry, it goes Azrael, Cassandra, Batman, Nightwing/Jason.

It's true. Azrael recently took on Batwoman and Cassandra simultaneously. He's also easily beaten combat scenarios (think Danger Room) that Batman has a hard time beating.

Originally posted by Zack M
It's true. Azrael recently took on Batwoman and Cassandra simultaneously. He's also easily beaten combat scenarios (think Danger Room) that Batman has a hard time beating.

when did az take on both of them?

lol cass isn't as skilled as post crisis version of her

Originally posted by Zack M
It's true. Azrael recently took on Batwoman and Cassandra simultaneously. He's also easily beaten combat scenarios (think Danger Room) that Batman has a hard time beating.

Okay. You are the Azrael expert. I'm not quite as high on him. But feats are feats.

Originally posted by Vanguard
Okay. You are the Azrael expert. I'm not quite as high on him. But feats are feats.

And Batman said he doesn't think he can beat Cassandra straight up.

I also forgot to mention that Azrael did defeat Bane. He has this one touch attack that makes them see things.

which issue the fight with bat/cass and az happened in lol?

Originally posted by Baziemarc123
which issue the fight with bat/cass and az happened in lol?

Detective Comics 956

Originally posted by Baziemarc123
when did az take on both of them?

lol cass isn't as skilled as post crisis version of her

They depowered Cass?

That sucks.

Cass owned Nightwing. They didn't depower her.

Originally posted by cdtm
They depowered Cass?

That sucks.

No, I mean Cass abilities are different from PC. and she's not as skilled as she was in PC

How so?

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Hand-to-hand only.

Can Bruce take them both?

As long as he's still individually better than any Robin or fomer-Robin, I have no problem thinking the team can win.

Post crisis Cassandra Cain reads body language like an actual language, recognizing a thousand or so subtle body twitches that allows her to telegraph her opponents' moves.

N52 Cass body reading is different and now allows her to regonize weak points in a person by just a glance

How is she less skilled, though?

don't ask me a stupid question. i already told you, not my fault if you wanna pretend to be dumb

How?

bruce takes this

lol. Bruce already lost to Dick one on one. Adding Jason is a terrible idea.

Originally posted by Zack M
Bruce already lost to Dick one on one.

Just goes to show how silly DC is getting.

just finished reading it. i dont see az taking on both of them like you claimed he did

Originally posted by -Pr-
Just goes to show how silly DC is getting.

Wayne pulled punches. He never goes all out against his boys.

Originally posted by -Pr-
Just goes to show how silly DC is getting.

He's talking about that sparring when they wrecked the entire Batcave. They were both conscious at the end, technically.

Bruce's body got fully restored now and it's not like he hasn't pwnt Dick in the Bat-canon before.

Originally posted by -Pr-
Just goes to show how silly DC is getting.

Dick is more athletic than Bruce though, given that he has heavy training under his belt his natural talent should be enough to give Bruce serious trouble.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
He's talking about that sparring when they wrecked the entire Batcave. They were both conscious at the end, technically.

Bruce's body got fully restored now and it's not like he hasn't pwnt Dick in the Bat-canon before.

They were still going all out, and Bruce mentioned that he did lose. I didn't know Bruce got a powerup.