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In terms of relative raw power. Relative showings>Space cheese, but feats count as well obviously.

Give rationale/reasoning for your stance based in the comics and why.

Well Thor is def more powerful than Rogelio Zaar LOL

Superman is also more powerful than random character who has defeated Thor in last decades.

and who was that "random" character?

Let's start with Tutinax.

Thor held back against him per his own words in the comic

Rogol destroyed krypton, so there's no excuse for superman holding back against him. he got stomped, casually.

horrible comparison lmaoo

Thor is more powerful. No discussion to be had.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Superman is also more powerful than random character who has defeated Thor in last decades.

Tbf, fake Terrax has been using Superman as toilet paper for like 5 issues. He makes the Tutinax beating look good in comparison.

Regardless, flavour of the month characters are terrible metrics so I don't think that is relevant outside of riling up Superman fans.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Thor is more powerful. No discussion to be had.


then GTFO this thread if you're going to be a coward about it.

The parameters of this thread are clear.

Follow them.



Actually, He's just another character, far, FAR above Thor-level, as a 1/2 power Superman mudstomped the small god.


Yes, you know full well that He is far above Thor, as he's beating a being far above Thor's proven superior.

I'm gonna laugh if they have this rogul guy die to a planet busting attack LMAOO in the next issues

What do you mean by relative showings?

Originally posted by Damborgson
What do you mean by relative showings?

How they directly compared to characters as opposed to inanimate objects.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Thor is more powerful. No discussion to be had.

Oh yes, by that comment we will.

There is nothing Thor has done raw power wise Superman hasn't replicated.

Inverse isn't true.

Brand new character who is scaring Guardians is compared to Terrax.

Guess Taurus is a better match.

Tutinax was hardly flavour of the month.

Originally posted by Baziemarc123
and who was that "random" character?

Let's start with Taurus and random badoons.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Oh yes, by that comment we will.

There is nothing Thor has done raw power wise Superman hasn't replicated.

Inverse isn't true.

Brand new character who is scaring Guardians is compared to Terrax.

Guess Taurus is a better match.

Tutinax was hardly flavour of the month.

"Brand new character who is scaring Guardians is compared to Terrax."

^scan?

and lol because "Scaring" implies superiority right? that's a dumb logic. Terrax is physically more powerful than Superman w/ his axe, but lets not derail

Originally posted by Baziemarc123
"Brand new character who is scaring Guardians is compared to Terrax."

^scan?

and lol because "Scaring" implies superiority right? that's a dumb logic. Terrax is physically more powerful than Superman w/ his axe, but lets not derail

Read Man of Steel 2.

Now Terrax is stronger than Superman? Is there any marvel character weaker than Superman IYO?

Thor is a lot more powerful and Superman agrees.

Physically, Superman is far stronger.

When it comes to the energy projection, Thor is way more powerful.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Read Man of Steel 2.

Now Terrax is stronger than Superman? Is there any marvel character weaker than Superman IYO?

...Ok?... Just read Man of Steel #2 2018, what was relevant in that story to this?..

Originally posted by Baziemarc123
...Ok?... Just read Man of Steel #2 2018, what was relevant in that story to this?..

Read again.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Read again.

..The guardians were scared?.. is that supposed to be explict evidence of superiority? Because.. it's not..

Originally posted by Baziemarc123
..The guardians were scared?.. is that supposed to be explict evidence of superiority? Because.. it's not..

Why wouldn't it be?

Originally posted by RealityWarper
Physically, Superman is far stronger.

When it comes to the energy projection, Thor is way more powerful.

At this point, nothing Thor has done can overcome Superman's EP durability showings.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Why wouldn't it be?

because it isn't?

we have no proof why they're scared of him?

All you're doing is making an assumption which isn't evidence.

Originally posted by Baziemarc123
because it isn't?

we have no proof why they're scared of him?

All you're doing is making an assumption which isn't evidence.

Yes, we have. Even after Krypton destruction The Guardians didn't go against him because they were scared.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Yes, we have. Even after Krypton destruction The Guardians didn't go against him because they were scared.

So?

that's not explict evidence he's superior to the guardians whatsoever

lulz because guardians care about krypton destruction

Originally posted by Baziemarc123
So?

that's not explict evidence he's superior to the guardians whatsoever

lulz because guardians care about krypton destruction

Why would Guardians be scared to him then?

Sure, they do. They are Guardians of the universe including Krypton.

Superman is far more powerful.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Why would Guardians be scared to him then?

Sure, they do. They are Guardians of the universe including Krypton.


riight. it surely isn't due to superiorty in power. that's an assumption made by you, unless you have explict evidence Rogul is actually> guardians, we'll have to wait

in terms of pure, personal power, not sure how anyone could reliably argue against superman being the more powerful. check any thread in any forum where it's thor w/o hammer v superman. hammerless thor has a few good feats, but it would take far more than a few good feats. add the hammer though (the classic hammer) and things become a LOT less clear imo.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Read Man of Steel 2.

Now Terrax is stronger than Superman? Is there any marvel character weaker than Superman IYO?

in my opinion?

meh, there's alot but i'll just name those who's stronger than Superman. Sam Alexander (Nova), Thor, Surfer (he would arguably stomp Superboy Prime in strength too), Thanos, Hulk, Adam Warlock, etc

Originally posted by Baziemarc123
in my opinion?

meh, there's alot but i'll just name those who's stronger than Superman. Sam Alexander (Nova), Thor, Surfer (he would arguably stomp Superboy Prime in strength too), Thanos, Hulk, Adam Warlock, etc

https://k61.kn3.net/taringa/1/5/0/7/4/6/65/soiuniko/BB4.gif

Originally posted by Baziemarc123
in my opinion?

meh, there's alot but i'll just name those who's stronger than Superman. Sam Alexander (Nova), Thor, Surfer (he would arguably stomp Superboy Prime in strength too), Thanos, Hulk, Adam Warlock, etc

Baz will not stop being baz.. surfer would stomp superboy prime in strength ??!!!!!!!!! . Baz needs to tell me what he's high on.. i need to take it.

anybody who thinks Prime would beat Surfer can battlezone me, otherwise stay shut

Originally posted by leonidas
in terms of pure, personal power, not sure how anyone could reliably argue against superman being the more powerful. check any thread in any forum where it's thor w/o hammer v superman. hammerless thor has a few good feats, but it would take far more than a few good feats. add the hammer though (the classic hammer) and things become a LOT less clear imo.

hammer

Originally posted by Baziemarc123
anybody who thinks Prime would beat Surfer can battlezone me, otherwise stay shut

Nah, prove that piece of sh*t lie right here kid. or you concede.

Originally posted by panthergod
Nah, prove that piece of sh*t lie right here kid. or you concede. Battlezone him then. Actually show you have a pair.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Battlezone him then. Actually show you have a pair.

Unlike you i couldn't care less about anyone else' opinion on the facts i know to be true. Unlike emo edgelords with crippling insecurity issues such as yourself,I don't need validation from.. KMC posters, lol. That's hilarious. And pathetic.

He'll prove his piece of trash stance with his next post in this thread or be revealed to be the coward He and I both know he is. Simple.

Originally posted by panthergod
Nah, prove that piece of sh*t lie right here kid. or you concede.

Sure bz me so I can publicly humilate you AGAIN, like i've been doing for the past few months LMAO

Originally posted by Baziemarc123
Sure bz me so I can publicly humilate you AGAIN, like i've been doing for the past few months LMAO
so no proof?

concession accepted.

LMAO that's what i thought. when you have the balls to step up, let me know.

Originally posted by Baziemarc123
LMAO that's what i thought. when you have the balls to step up, let me know. He lacks a spine.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Why would Guardians be scared to him then?

Sure, they do. They are Guardians of the universe including Krypton.

The Guardians dont go against a lot of things except in rare circumstances

i.e. seeking validation.

**** anyone else's view on what i know to be true.

simple.


That's what this thread is for.

He'll prove his claim right now or he's a liar.

simple.


The thread is right here.

He can show and prove his sh*tstance or be the coward we both know he is.

But I'm sure he's grateful for you sticking up for him since he's such a weakling that he can't prove his sh*targument. Good job, quanSHE. you're such a great captain Save a Hoe.

Originally posted by Baziemarc123
LMAO that's what i thought. when you have the balls to step up, let me know.
You've already conceded.

Don't address me on this subject again until you have the balls to prove your argument. Period.

why would I prove it here knowing the thread's gonna get riddled up with bunch of fanboys INCLUDING abhi to help you out against me lmaoo?

why don't you debate me 1v1, I mean you have done so in the previous threads and got stomped on.

If prime spites surfer, than accept the BZ? I mean since you CAN EASSSSILY debunk that right kid LOL?

If you were truly a superman fan you'd step outside your safe zone and prove why Prime SUPPOSEDLY spite surfer but based on what we're seeing YOU DON'T even have FAITH you can prove he does LMAOOOO.

so like i said, when you decide to grow your balls and ready to step up and face your fear, your superiority in every aspect, LET-ME-KNOW. otherwise the notion stays true buddy

Originally posted by Baziemarc123
why would I prove it here knowing the thread's gonna get riddled up with bunch of fanboys INCLUDING abhi to help you out against me lmaoo?

why don't you debate me 1v1, I mean you have done so in the previous threads and got stomped on.

If prime spites surfer, than accept the BZ? I mean since you CAN EASSSSILY debunk that right kid LOL?

If you were truly a superman fan you'd step outside your safe zone and prove why Prime SUPPOSEDLY spite surfer but based on what we're seeing YOU DON'T ven have FAITH you can prove he does LMAOOOO.

I don't give a sh*t about KMC sh*t like 'Battlezones". I don't give a shit about votes. i don't give a sh*t about anyone else's opinion on my argument. I don't give a sh*t about you beyond entertainment as I destroy you with ease on the merits every single time with zero effort.

Prove your goddamned argument right f*cking now or shut the f*ck up on this subject to me. Simple.

Anything other than your argument in the next reply is a concession that you have nothing more to say to me on that subject

THANK YOU for proving my point.

LMAO abhi even have more balls than you, and that's SAYING something haha.

Originally posted by Baziemarc123
THANK YOU for proving my point.

LMAO abhi even have more balls than you, and that's SAYING something haha.
So you concede AGAIN.

Concession accepted.

Don't post any more trolling spam in this thread again.

LOL Panthergod's just angry abhi's more relevant than him hahaha

that's second place for ya

All of you guys should just meet up in real life and have a knife fight

Originally posted by Baziemarc123
LOL Panthergod's just angry abhi's more relevant than him hahaha

that's second place for ya
abhi can bat you idiots around for all I care, take the time to scans dozens of comics, lol.

He can take point with the KMC vote nonsense, since you're too p*ssy to prove anything you say on the merits right here.

oh, and BTW, CONCESSION ACCEPTED.

The subject of SPB vs Surfer is finished in this thread, since Baz ran. Don't spam my thread with off topic nonsense again.

maybe Supes would be considered high herald in marvel terms. I SURE hope so lol. hopefully. maybe in the future, but don't get angry at me confirming what the facts were to abhi and that supes wouldn't be powerful enough to be a candidate for the strongest avenger son

stay mad lol. your fan fiction doesn't match with the comics you sad man child

If I destroyed you on this thread AGAIN, that'd be derailing the main point of this post and it's to see who's more powerful between supes vs thor WHICH--- WAS DISCUSSED OVER ONE MILLION TIMES AND THE VICTOR BECAME TO BE THOR LOL!

the results will never change, get over it.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Thor is more powerful. No discussion to be had.



Tbf, fake Terrax has been using Superman as toilet paper for like 5 issues. He makes the Tutinax beating look good in comparison.

Regardless, flavour of the month characters are terrible metrics so I don't think that is relevant outside of riling up Superman fans.


like Rage said, there's no discussion. it's been done too many times, just because you don't like the facts doesn't mean you should be butthurt sis

Originally posted by Baziemarc123
maybe Supes would be considered high herald in marvel terms. I SURE hope so lol. hopefully. maybe in the future, but don't get angry at me confirming what the facts were to abhi and that supes wouldn't be powerful enough to be a candidate for the strongest avenger son


Hulk can gain higher strength levels. bout it.

Superman physically overpowered 5 beyond Thor level beings at once meanwhile.

Cry more.




Says the idiot who said Superman doesn't absorb stellar energy..

GTFO of my thread if you're too cowardly to make an honest argument punk.

hahahaha you want me to give you the attention that you don't get IRL eh?

sad LOL

If I made an argument, that'd be changing the subject/derailing and you don't like it when people derail your threads right cry baby LOL?

Originally posted by panthergod
Hulk can gain higher strength levels. bout it.

Superman physically overpowered 5 beyond Thor level beings at once meanwhile.

Cry more.




Says the idiot who said Superman doesn't absorb stellar energy..

GTFO of my thread if you're too cowardly to make an honest argument punk.

Who were the 5 beyond Thor level beings?

Superman is more powerful
Thor is more versatile


Thor however has potentially to hit hard with a hammer

Superman is more physically powerful, but the hammer tips the scales. Overall Thor is more powerful with the hammer and its versatility.

For those who like quoting the crossover

https://ibb.co/iQK6vT

Originally posted by Facee
For those who like quoting the crossover

https://ibb.co/iQK6vT

Superman w/Mjolnir>>Thor with Mjolnir.

Next.

Originally posted by Baziemarc123
Who were the 5 beyond Thor level beings?

5 adult male New Kryptonian soldiers.

A Kryptonian 16 year old girl Supergirl dominated a base level Superman and two shifted Ultraman well beyond Thor level.

Originally posted by tkitna
Superman is more physically powerful, but the hammer tips the scales. Overall Thor is more powerful with the hammer and its versatility.

Anything other than wishful thinking for that view..?

Because Thor failed against 1/2 current Superman.

Originally posted by panthergod
5 adult male New Kryptonian soldiers.

A Kryptonian 16 year old girl Supergirl dominated a base level Superman and two shifted Ultraman well beyond Thor level.

beating a holding back superman thor level?

Originally posted by xJLxKing
Superman is more powerful
Thor is more versatile


Thor however has potentially to hit hard with a hammer

This.

Thor w/ Mjolnir harmed Chaos King. a single powerful lightning will erase superman out of existence

Superman already beat Thor. No competition.

Only girly men hold back.

Originally posted by Zack M
Only girly men hold back. Superman holds back even more so.

Yikes.

https://i.imgur.com/QSX2AaO.jpg

I'm proud that that image was made in response to my channel once.

Originally posted by leonidas
in terms of pure, personal power, not sure how anyone could reliably argue against superman being the more powerful. check any thread in any forum where it's thor w/o hammer v superman. hammerless thor has a few good feats, but it would take far more than a few good feats. add the hammer though (the classic hammer) and things become a LOT less clear imo.

I think this is classic Thor with his hammer and Superman. At least, it usually is.

Otherwise Superman is clearly more powerful and versatile. Thor with his Thunder God powers makes it far more competitive, but it wouldn't be a really honest conversation if we just limit Thor to strength and durability, while Superman has all his powers. Even Thor without his hammer, isn't an accurate description of the regular status quo.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Oh yes, by that comment we will.

There is nothing Thor has done raw power wise Superman hasn't replicated.

Inverse isn't true.

Brand new character who is scaring Guardians is compared to Terrax.

Guess Taurus is a better match.

Tutinax was hardly flavour of the month.

Disagreed, Thor is clearly more powerful with Mjolnir.

Zoor scared the Guardians? Issue number or scan please? Everyone scares the Guardan's at this point, but I'd like to see it as well.

Tutinax is a character no one outside of Mr.Master, and a few other posters knew before the Thor mini...wtf lol.

Originally posted by panthergod
then GTFO this thread if you're going to be a coward about it.

The parameters of this thread are clear.

Follow them.



Actually, He's just another character, far, FAR above Thor-level, as a 1/2 power Superman mudstomped the small god.


Yes, you know full well that He is far above Thor, as he's beating a being far above Thor's proven superior.

What? Superman was at 50% when he beat Thor? How does that make sense?

As a Superman fan, WHY would you even want that to be true? It'd make him a TERRIBLE superhero by any measure. You also need to find some consistency. If you want to use JLA/Avengers as your bench-mark, go ahead. But you'd have to admit that Thor was the toughest opponent he's ever had, Mjolnir clearly packed more power than even Superman is use to, and Superman BARELY beat Thor by his own admission. Superman was stronger and faster however.

Abhi's nuts.

50% is DOS Superman limiter unlock, normal levels are 10% of his max power, at best.

Originally posted by Damborgson
I'm proud that that image was made in response to my channel once. What channel?

Originally posted by quanchi112
What channel?

You don't follow his channel?

https://www.youtube.com/user/Fernando072295?feature=mhee

Think he was referring to this channel.

His youtube chanel. He makes comic related content.

Youtube channel.

https://www.youtube.com/user/Fernando072295

About time you replaced that "Golden shower" Banner.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
I think this is classic Thor with his hammer and Superman. At least, it usually is.

No, it isn't.

You can limit Superman to just strength and durability if you want.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Disagreed, Thor is clearly more powerful with Mjolnir.

Clearly? You're taking meth along with Baziemarc123 I see.

Man of Steel 2.



Not if they've read Eternals.

And Superman was the strongest being in nine realms as per Thor and would beat Thor's face in while he had mjolnir.

Originally posted by abhilegend
No, it isn't.

You can limit Superman to just strength and durability if you want.

Did you forget to switch to your sock account or did I miss a post by the thread starter? Or do you just like disagreeing with me?

Why would you even want to limit this to only Thor's strength and durability and not even his innate lighting powers while giving Superman access to all his powers? Or in your in case limit Superman to just the same? There's 50 million Thor vs Superman strength threads....

Originally posted by abhilegend
Clearly? You're taking meth along with Baziemarc123 I see.

Man of Steel 2.



Not if they've read Eternals.

And Superman was the strongest being in nine realms as per Thor and would beat Thor's face in while he had mjolnir.

Even Wonder Woman is much stronger then Thor. Third of Earth beats Midgard Serpent feat.

Bazie and Quanchi have marvel's cock shoved so far up their ass, cums are squirting out of their eyes, they can't see clearly that odinson will always be superman's biatch

Originally posted by abhilegend
Clearly? You're taking meth along with Baziemarc123 I see.

Man of Steel 2.



Not if they've read Eternals.

And Superman was the strongest being in nine realms as per Thor and would beat Thor's face in while he had mjolnir.

Almost no one gives a shit about Eternals and Tutinax might be the strongest deviant but he only has 12 appearances in total or so from his introduction 50 years ago. Ragnar Lokthbrok already has had half as many appearances lmao.

You just like disagreeing with me admit. I realized this just now, it's kind of funny. We could take this skit on the road.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Did you forget to switch to your sock account or did I miss a post by the thread starter? Or do you just like disagreeing with me?

Why would you even want to limit this to only Thor's strength and durability and not even his innate lighting powers while giving Superman access to all his powers? Or in your in case limit Superman to just the same? There's 50 million Thor vs Superman strength threads....
Because Superman is a level above Thor in strength or durability.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Almost no one gives a shit about Eternals and Tutinax might be the strongest deviant but he only has 12 appearances in total or so from his introduction 50 years ago. Ragnar Lokthbrok already has had half as many appearances lmao.

You just like disagreeing with me admit. I realized this just now, it's kind of funny. We could take this skit on the road.
No, it's just wgat comics show. Superman is already stated to be most powerful hero on both DC and Marvel earths.

Even hierarchy wise Superman is the most powerful hero conventionally on his earth. Thor isn't. No comic would outright state Thor is more powerful than Superman but inverse is already true.

threads these days on KMC seemed to get derailed around the 2-3 page... BUT i dug deeper and found what was responsible. Two Marvel Block Headed, Narrowminded Fanboys...(they're like father and son :shifty well done baz&quan. You really have done well.

Originally posted by abhilegend
No, it's just wgat comics show. Superman is already stated to be most powerful hero on both DC and Marvel earths.

Even hierarchy wise Superman is the most powerful hero conventionally on his earth. Thor isn't. No comic would outright state Thor is more powerful than Superman but inverse is already true.

Where did it say this? I've read JLA/Avengers many times. Never seen that.

Apples and oranges. Very different dynamics in the two Universes (Mutants, and Marvels propensity for new characters and DC's legacy mentality makes a big difference).

That's not true...? A few writers would have Thor > Superman, so saying that NO COMIC would do so is preposterous. Even JLA indirectly implied it when Superman lifted Mjolnir. Regardless, you're spouting a lot of assumptions as fact. Maybe you're just having a tease, I at least hope you haven't been drinking your koolaid.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Because Superman is a level above Thor in strength or durability.

Lol what are you even saying? Do you even remember the original post you replied to? If you think that, then why would it be Thor with just his strength and durability vs full powers Superman or even Superman strength and durability.

If you think that, why are you so afraid to have Thor at full power if the strength and durability is a foregone conclusion iyo? You're inconsistent af.

ROFL Current Superman was struggling and straining against the immense might of a charging elephant. This is a mis match and not up for this discussion.

https://s8.postimg.cc/n14yfwt9t/6485532-2868400267-_RCO02.jpg

Yet when Jane Thor's showings are brought up, you automatically rely solely on her supernova feat with the Shi Ar gods.

Even though I showed multiple showings of her struggling with far less...

that's not even remotely the same thing hypocrite lmao but keep thinking that. current superman is actually far less powerful than new 52, the scan I posted shows this. cry more

Originally posted by Baziemarc123
that's not even remotely the same thing hypocrite lmao but keep thinking that. current superman is actually far less powerful than new 52, the scan I posted shows this. cry more

It is indeed quite hypocritical of you.

If I say Thor struggles with small asteroids and spaceships and cities, you start screaming and crying, then post her highest ever feats.

If anyone does the same, you laugh and say hey, that's not the AVERAGE, then post low showings.

because those low ends are not consistent with Thor. period. im not sure how's that the same for superman but OKAY LMAO

Lol ok.

if your gonna come at my neck please learn how consistency works

Originally posted by Baziemarc123
if your gonna come at my neck please learn how consistency works

I posted not one, not two, but three showings of Thor struggling with less than planetary mass.

You posted....one.

So in terms of consistency, I win, no? I have three. You have one.

its called jobbing to let other people shine. every hero does it, learn it

Originally posted by Baziemarc123
its called jobbing to let other people shine. every hero does it, learn it

So why can't I say the supernova hurled by the Shi Ar gods jobbed to make Jane look good?

Why does it only work for characters you hate/love? Hypocritical, right?

im not having this stupid conversation with you. the showing happened for supes, PERIOD. and that''s the most powerful version to date, take it up with the writers

Lol concession accepted

I didn't know one showing was the average now. Huh... Someone should have told me.

DS why do you continue to bother? Originally posted by Baziemarc123
ROFL Current Superman was struggling and straining against the immense might of a charging elephant. This is a mis match and not up for this discussion.

https://s8.postimg.cc/n14yfwt9t/6485532-2868400267-_RCO02.jpg

How have I never seen this scan before?

Originally posted by -Pr-
I didn't know one showing was the average now. Huh... Someone should have told me.

I have more similar, but im still adding scans for my post for the BZ

difference between jane and supes is none of her low ends have her struggling with ANYTHING less than a elephant. period.

Originally posted by Baziemarc123
I have more similar, but im still adding scans for my post for the BZ

difference between jane and supes is none of her low ends have her struggling with ANYTHING less than a elephant. period.

You say that like low showings matter. They don't.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
DS why do you continue to bother?

How have I never seen this scan before?

Action comics 985 iirc...the Machinist has mind controlled normal animals etc.

Originally posted by -Pr-
You say that like low showings matter. They don't.

Also, the original argument was that Jane Thor doesn't struggle with moon level mass.

I then showed three examples of her struggling with far less.

Baz's response? To show a single showing of Jane with a supernova. And that, therefore, was her average.

And therefore, her multiple showings of her struggling with MUCH less, were non applicable.....

Very hypocritical.

Originally posted by -Pr-
You say that like low showings matter. They don't.

they seem to count for quite a lot.

Originally posted by leonidas
they seem to count for quite a lot.

I'd wipe that smile off your face if I were you. Baz is going to drop the hammer on you.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Where did it say this? I've read JLA/Avengers many times. Never seen that.

JLA/Avengers collector's edition has it.

https://s22.postimg.cc/76dsxq7jl/image.jpg

https://s22.postimg.cc/9npk511qp/image.jpg


Busiek's plot reveals that Thor combined with several other avengers couldn't beat Superman in raw power and Superman adds his own power to mjolnir to destroy Krona's barrier which Thor couldn't.

Also Superman/Fantastic Four.

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11112/111122896/4291071-1597998-891461_supes_herald_super.png



Don't play dumb. Most Thor/Avengers comics don't even acknowledge mutants.

Ironically Kurt Busiek was probably the last writer who stated Thor was the most powerful avenger ever.



Superman tends to be the most powerful hero in almost any setting, Thor doesn't. That's more Hulk's role.

JLA/Avengers had Superman add his power to mjolnir to break Krona's barrier.





Are you having a stroke? What is this gibberish? Superman with just strength and durability>Thor with just strength and durability. Just like Superman>Thor in general.

Originally posted by Baziemarc123
ROFL Current Superman was struggling and straining against the immense might of a charging elephant. This is a mis match and not up for this discussion.

https://s8.postimg.cc/n14yfwt9t/6485532-2868400267-_RCO02.jpg

Instead of say struggling with a vending machine?

https://s15.postimg.cc/5inidnk6f/RCO007.jpg

ROFL Superman is stronger than Mjolnir at full power?

Originally posted by abhilegend
Instead of say struggling with a vending machine?

https://s15.postimg.cc/5inidnk6f/RCO007.jpg

That's a hotdog cart, you lowballer. SMH everyone knows hotdogs in NYC are super dense.

Reported.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
DS why do you continue to bother?

How have I never seen this scan before?
Superman was trying to stop the animals non lethal ways. The shit Thor has struggled with will turn your hair white if I stat posting those.

FFS, Jane struggled with a ****ing vending machine where she was handling Mangog five issues later.

Originally posted by Baziemarc123
ROFL Superman is stronger than Mjolnir at full power?

Yes, Kurt Busiek intended so after all.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
That's a hotdog cart, you lowballer. SMH everyone knows hotdogs in NYC are super dense.

Reported.
My apologies good sir.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Yes, Kurt Busiek intended so after all.


where?

Originally posted by Baziemarc123
where? Originally posted by abhilegend
JLA/Avengers collector's edition has it.

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Busiek's plot reveals that Thor combined with several other avengers couldn't beat Superman in raw power and Superman adds his own power to mjolnir to destroy Krona's barrier which Thor couldn't.

Thor and several avengers combined were less than Superman in raw power. Explicitly stated.

Yeah but she has the power of Thor..

He also has far lower lifting feats too.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Yeah but she has the power of Thor..

yes INSIDE of Mjolnir. she didn't have Mjolnir when she did that lifting feat abhi posted.

Based on lifting feats, Thor far outclasses her. that's fact

Originally posted by abhilegend
Thor and several avengers combined were less than Superman in raw power. Explicitly stated.


ROFL yet he was beaten down by 4 low tiers (She Hulk), Vision, Iron Man in his 1st armor, and Wonder Woman


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Originally posted by Baziemarc123
ROFL yet he was beaten down by 4 low tiers (She Hulk), Vision, Iron Man in his 1st armor, and Wonder Woman


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That's not Wonder Woman....

Originally posted by Baziemarc123
ROFL yet he was beaten down by 4 low tiers (She Hulk), Vision, Iron Man in his 1st armor, and Wonder Woman


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Not by raw power as Busiek stated.

I like how Hercules is a low tier and Simon is now wonder woman.

Is that Iron Man in his first armour??

smh im on mobile. chill

yes, by raw power. they're using PHYSICAL force in that fight sequence to beat down superman.

Originally posted by leonidas
they seem to count for quite a lot.

Only to spiteful dumbasses.

Also, AGAIN, crossovers are, by KMC rules, NOT valid in arguments.

Buseik is a fanboy, what writers say is irrelevant relative to what's shown directly on panel.

you could argue She Hulk, or Iron Man could one-shot Superman if we base their feats on consistency.

Originally posted by Baziemarc123
Buseik is a fanboy, what writers say is irrelevant relative to what's shown directly on panel.

you could argue She Hulk, or Iron Man could one-shot Superman if we base their feats on consistency.

No you ****ing couldn't. Don't go full retard, dude. Seriously.

Originally posted by Baziemarc123
smh im on mobile. chill

yes, by raw power. they're using PHYSICAL force in that fight sequence to beat down superman.

Not sure why being on your phone makes you ignore Hercules, but OK.

IM in his old armour was able to stalemate Thor, so....

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
And let's not forget about Tony in his Model 1 Mark III armor being perfectly capable of stalemating Classic Thor in the arm-wrestling competition...

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Originally posted by -Pr-
No you ****ing couldn't. Don't go full retard, dude. Seriously.

Dude I know i MIGHT SEEM like a marvel fanboy/troll to you but i'm not. I am 100% SERIOUS, I've ready tons of superman from his older stories, and I've read Iron Man. I mean HEY the Monica vs Superman BZ is JUST PROOF I can back the stuff I say.

there's a reason why debates exist. to debunk a popular notion, you might even be full of surprises. there's much much more things to learn, if you read alot of Iron Man, he isn't EXACTLY a slouch. he's even beaten Ulik who was giving thor trouble, and many high tiers before. and that was in one of his older models

after im done with leo's BZ, I'll gladly bz iron man vs superman, or surfer vs superboy prime.

Originally posted by Baziemarc123
after im done with leo's BZ, I'll gladly bz iron man vs superman, or surfer vs superboy prime.

We still have Hulk vs Reed with prep .

Originally posted by Baziemarc123
smh im on mobile. chill

yes, by raw power. they're using PHYSICAL force in that fight sequence to beat down superman.

That's not what Busiek said.