Iron Fist vs vixen

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Stoic
Fight takes place in a 100 meter X 40 meter dojo with a 20 meter high ceiling. It has danger room type obstacle course features much like monkey bars to swing off of.


Who wins?

cdtm
Iron Fist wins, with ease.

leonidas
you think? i dunno. i think this is pretty damn close and would understand why someone took visen for a majority here.

cdtm
She's a poor man's Animal Man, right?

IMO, Danny would rip through the best AM combo like a hot knife through butter.

leonidas
blink you don't know buddy very well.....and vixen could pretty easily win this, she has some pretty great feats. for a while she could copy people too, but i don;t think that ability followed her for too long. mantis shrimp speed, armored beetle durability, rhino beetle strength. the more i think about it the more i become convinced she would def take him for a majority.

Zack M
Vixen is overall more formidable than animal man. She's an actual good fighter, plus she can call on any animal from the Red. Vixen for the small majority.

cdtm
Originally posted by leonidas
blink you don't know buddy very well.....and vixen could pretty easily win this, she has some pretty great feats. for a while she could copy people too, but i don;t think that ability followed her for too long. mantis shrimp speed, armored beetle durability, rhino beetle strength. the more i think about it the more i become convinced she would def take him for a majority.


I know they can call up some tough combo's.

Would an armored beetle really be tougher then the kinds of things Danny's punched through, though?

What's the best he or Vixen can tap? At Cage level strength/durability? Mortal half powered Herc?

And sure, throwing out super sonic punch's from a mantis shrimp sounds impressive, except remember a lot of high end streets probably punch that fast anyways. And Danny did catch a sniper round, with weakened powers..

Zack M
Vixen blocked Supermans punch with beetle armor, so yes.

riv6672
Vixen and Animal Man are hugely powerful, yeah.

As was pointed out, it wouldnt be surprising for her to take a majority here. Danny would have to bring his A game.

zopzop
Originally posted by leonidas
mantis shrimp...
And that's all she needs. They are heavily shielded (scientists study it to make super durable armor). And in terms of offense, these tiny things can shatter aquarium glass with their strikes. They attack so fast, they cause the temperature of the water to briefly reach hundreds of degrees. Now imagine all this scaled up to human size. IF is phucked.

cdtm
Originally posted by zopzop
And that's all she needs. They are heavily shielded (scientists study it to make super durable armor). And in terms of offense, these tiny things can shatter aquarium glass with their strikes. They attack so fast, they cause the temperature of the water to briefly reach hundreds of degrees. Now imagine all this scaled up to human size. IF is phucked.

In theory, impressive.

In fact, Iron Fist actually busted a city, shredded a vibranium suit, and tanked a nuke. wink


Btw, can someone ban RW for a few hours? It's hard enough trying to debate for someone who, it was argued, would lose to the Bat Family without him doing his thing. sad

RealityWarper
Pistol shrimp \o/

DarkSaint85
Originally posted by zopzop
And that's all she needs. They are heavily shielded (scientists study it to make super durable armor). And in terms of offense, these tiny things can shatter aquarium glass with their strikes. They attack so fast, they cause the temperature of the water to briefly reach hundreds of degrees. Now imagine all this scaled up to human size. IF is phucked.

Is that how it works, it scales up to human levels?

Because pistol shrimp actually produce temperatures of 4,700 degrees C. The Sun's surface is 5,500 degrees C. A shrimp is ~4cm long, Mari is ~44x the height, ignoring any stacking with elephant strength or whatever. So that makes it 207,000 degrees C....

RealityWarper
I'm almost certain that Vixen can copy Shou Lao's powers.

cdtm
Only if she can copy magical beings.

DarkSaint85
Dragon:
https://m.imgur.com/VVFhY9e

Mindset
Originally posted by RealityWarper
I'm almost certain that Vixen can copy Shou Lao's powers. Cool.

IF rips her heart out.

cdtm
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Dragon:
https://m.imgur.com/VVFhY9e

Fair enough. thumb up

Now, can she copy off someone channeling a magical beast?

leonidas
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Is that how it works, it scales up to human levels?

Because pistol shrimp actually produce temperatures of 4,700 degrees C. The Sun's surface is 5,500 degrees C. A shrimp is ~4cm long, Mari is ~44x the height, ignoring any stacking with elephant strength or whatever. So that makes it 207,000 degrees C....

yes that is how it works.

armored beetle:

https://imgur.com/a/faOFO

in regards to magic, copies a dragon:

http://i.imgur.com/VVFhY9e.jpg

she def has combos that would beat him.

cdtm
So does he.

But I need to gather a few scans. This should be fun. evil face

deathslash
Originally posted by Mindset
Cool.

IF rips her heart out. laughing out loud

I genuinely did not see that coming.

riv6672
Originally posted by cdtm
So does he.

But I need to gather a few scans. This should be fun. evil face
Look at you, being all devilish. Bring it on!

cdtm
It's going to take some re-reading, but let's start with a good one:


https://readcomics.io/images/manga/iron-fist-the-living-weapon/6/13.jpg


https://readcomics.io/images/manga/iron-fist-the-living-weapon/6/14.jpg

https://readcomics.io/images/manga/iron-fist-the-living-weapon/6/15.jpg


That's Davos, the Steel Serpent, making like The Parasite. He rips the chi out of a small army, leaving nothing behind but their bones, and healing himself in the process.

Of course, Danny can do the same thing. And, he has.


I'll post those later, but for now let this one digest.

cdtm
Let's move on:


https://readcomics.io/images/manga/iron-fist-the-living-weapon/11/2.jpg


"Tore the barriers between heaven and hell".


You might be asking how this helps in a fight with an armored beetle that can block Superman.

I am simply establishing just how much power Danny actually wields. IMO, ripping apart the dimensions between hell and earth, and bringing someone into it, implies a ridiculous amount of power.


Next, something more relevant to the actual fight..

zopzop
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Is that how it works, it scales up to human levels?

Because pistol shrimp actually produce temperatures of 4,700 degrees C. The Sun's surface is 5,500 degrees C. A shrimp is ~4cm long, Mari is ~44x the height, ignoring any stacking with elephant strength or whatever. So that makes it 207,000 degrees C....
Originally posted by leonidas
yes that is how it works.

armored beetle:

https://imgur.com/a/faOFO

in regards to magic, copies a dragon:

http://i.imgur.com/VVFhY9e.jpg

she def has combos that would beat him.
Incredible no? And that's not all. Why bother stacking powers using the puny armored beetle when you can stack this instead. The incredible ironclad beetle. You can't even STEP ON IT TO KILL IT and entomologists have to use DRILLS to pin it for display. Imagine that level of defense scaled up to human size?

Vixen with Mantis Shrimp/Ironclad Beetle combo would end most low level heralds.

cdtm
So, with the gates of hell forcibly ripped open, naturally this warranted the response of a Hell Lord:



https://readcomics.io/images/manga/iron-fist-the-living-weapon/11/4.jpg

https://readcomics.io/images/manga/iron-fist-the-living-weapon/11/5.jpg


https://readcomics.io/images/manga/iron-fist-the-living-weapon/11/8.jpg




More to come.

cdtm
Here is Danny's defense against the Hell Lord:


https://readcomics.io/images/manga/iron-fist-the-living-weapon/11/11.jpg

https://readcomics.io/images/manga/iron-fist-the-living-weapon/11/12.jpg


Accessing his chi through the robot that stole them, and augmenting his powers through the life force of those inside the building, he turns a building into an f'n Gundam.

Yeah, yeah, "But he was amped!" Sure, but it's still an amp using his own abilities. He can tap someone else's chi whenever he wants, just like Davos did.

He can just as easily steal Vixen's chi, or augment himself from any life, since all life contains chi.

Of course, the Death God wins against the Gundam building:

https://readcomics.io/images/manga/iron-fist-the-living-weapon/11/17.jpg

StiltmanFTW
And the daily award for stretching and raping the page goes to cdtm.

cdtm
Which leads to the finale:

Danny gets his chi back from his father, who stole it.



https://readcomics.io/images/manga/iron-fist-the-living-weapon/11/20.jpg




https://readcomics.io/images/manga/iron-fist-the-living-weapon/12/8.jpg

And keep in mind, this was all done with "his" power. The mechanical robot needed dragons chi, to open up the gates of hell, and get his wife back.

This isn't amped Danny. This is Danny using his full power, to kill an elder god of hell.

cdtm
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
And the daily award for stretching and raping the page goes to cdtm.

I'm just what KMC made me.

And besides, it's the only way to get anyone to pay attention. The Church of Rand isn't what it used to be.

leonidas
geezus. i'll just assume they're good because i'm not putting in the work to read those abominations.

Philosophía
Jesus Christ.

Anyway, Vixen literally every time.

cdtm
Danny drains her life force dry.

DarkSaint85
She's connected to the Red....Not sure he can drain an entire dimension in the time it takes for her to punch him out.

RealityWarper
Originally posted by cdtm
I'm just what KMC made me.

And besides, it's the only way to get anyone to pay attention. The Church of Rand isn't what it used to be.

The Shariforce was destroyed.

cdtm
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
She's connected to the Red....Not sure he can drain an entire dimension in the time it takes for her to punch him out.

This is something I haven't considered..

So, her life force is essentially hooked into it, like a Phoenix Avatar?

Has anyone ever tried draining her off, or otherwise shown her life energies are bolstered by The Red?

cdtm
And I have to wonder if she can, in turn, be tapped by a life force siphon?

Could be interesting seeing her go against Parasite..

cdtm
I'll try and get some more scans.

DarkSaint85
Originally posted by cdtm
This is something I haven't considered..

So, her life force is essentially hooked into it, like a Phoenix Avatar?

Has anyone ever tried draining her off, or otherwise shown her life energies are bolstered by The Red?

So this was the Queen of Fables destroying her:
https://s5.postimg.cc/w7wdm3ryf/RCO021.jpg
https://s5.postimg.cc/tqkmetsmf/RCO022.jpg

'blown to bits', 'atomized', etc.

She comes back from the dead.

https://s5.postimg.cc/iqzf389x3/RCO011_w_1516789580.jpg
https://s5.postimg.cc/4xb2e6wrb/RCO012_1516789580.jpg
https://s5.postimg.cc/vidl9r6uf/RCO013_1516789580.jpg

And this is old, but an explanation of her powers (and AFAIK, still true):
http://i.imgur.com/nHk6DXa.jpg


Originally posted by cdtm
And I have to wonder if she can, in turn, be tapped by a life force siphon?

Could be interesting seeing her go against Parasite..

I wouldn't use Parasite as an example. He was draining Barry, who IS the Speed Force or whatever. And THAT is meant to be multiversal/infinite.

riv6672
^^^yeah, but i think you made your point. Hella impressive, and no diss to IF, this is just a difference in powers.

cdtm
Point about Parasite.

From the context, there's no way of telling if she tapped planara before or after being blown to bits. If the stuff it that effective, it makes sense to adapt it by default, all the time.

Like Ultra Boy keeps Invulnerability switched in, even when he's sleeping.


Either way, it's one hell of a regen feat, and proves she s about as unkillable as Lobo.

Doesn't mean she can't be incapacitated/drained.

leonidas
oh she can def be ko'd. i'm just not sure he can do it. not for a majority at least,

DarkSaint85
As for draining, that's why I had that old ass scan. It's not the totem, she's hooked into the Red. Batman can't just pick it up and use it, for example.

cdtm
Originally posted by leonidas
oh she can def be ko'd. i'm just not sure he can do it. not for a majority at least,

Well, that depends.

In a neutral environment, I'd bet he could access enough power for a city buster before she can access armored beetle, or whatever. Even as far back as the 1980's, he was doing stuff like throwing a chunk of metal at an energy projector, outpacing the metal, and delivering a kick as the metal piece distracted the villian. His natural speed is "catch a bullet", while Vixen has to access that.

Zack M
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
So this was the Queen of Fables destroying her:
https://s5.postimg.cc/w7wdm3ryf/RCO021.jpg
https://s5.postimg.cc/tqkmetsmf/RCO022.jpg

'blown to bits', 'atomized', etc.

She comes back from the dead.

https://s5.postimg.cc/iqzf389x3/RCO011_w_1516789580.jpg
https://s5.postimg.cc/4xb2e6wrb/RCO012_1516789580.jpg
https://s5.postimg.cc/vidl9r6uf/RCO013_1516789580.jpg

And this is old, but an explanation of her powers (and AFAIK, still true):
http://i.imgur.com/nHk6DXa.jpg




I wouldn't use Parasite as an example. He was draining Barry, who IS the Speed Force or whatever. And THAT is meant to be multiversal/infinite.

No shame in IF losing.

Smurph
Vixen, and it wouldn't be close. Forum match, she would quickly overwhelm.

Mindset
Originally posted by Smurph
Vixen, and it wouldn't be close. Forum match, she would quickly overwhelm. I feel betrayed right now.

cdtm
Originally posted by Mindset
I feel betrayed right now.

https://i.makeagif.com/media/6-21-2016/vP17Nq.gif

riv6672

RealityWarper
Vixen stomps him.

cdtm
Vixen is more powerful, for sure.

Danny's best shot is taking her out before she can tap a good power set.

Which, honestly, he could do. Just like Nitro kicked off Civil War.

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