Classic Rogue vs......

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zopzop
This is Classic Rogue with Ms. Marvel's powers : CL50 strength, great durability, respectable flight speed and maneuverability, and her 7th sense. Rogue cannot use her power absorption powers and she has no energy manipulation abilities (since she never demonstrated them).

Keep in mind, Classic Carol was nowhere near as strong (struggling to lift cars) or as durable (feared being shot) as Rogue was with her powers. Rogue's handbook entry itself makes note of this :
https://s8.postimg.cc/bo6jjxzj5/RCO011.jpg
Exact quote "Some unknown factor must be at work here..... Rogue is far stronger and more resistant to injury than Mar-vell ever was."

Also note, it says Rogue's strength is AT LEAST CL50. See the "AT LEAST" part? It was backed up on panel :
https://s8.postimg.cc/7t7qurxxt/KOn_ZVU0.png
The weights averaged 50 tons. She was doing reps with them for 10 mins without breaking a sweat. 15 more minutes later does she start feeling the burn. She wasn't going all out testing her strength limit. She was just working out.

One more thing to mention, Rogue had Ms. Marvel's 7th sense. Mentioned in the Handbook entry AND on panel. I only got this one example but I know she's used it more than once. So it's definitely admissible in a forum/comic fight.
https://s8.postimg.cc/m0xfjdkwh/a53ph_AN.png https://s8.postimg.cc/7uhoo5hr5/img496.jpg

Ok now for the VS part. The list is the same from my Ms. Marvel thread -

How does she do vs these Marvel superhuman ladies? This isn't a gauntlet.
1) Spiderwoman (Jessica Drew)
2) Spiderwoman (Julia)
3) Jessica Jones
4) Monet (no TP)
5) Frenzy
6) Thundra
7) Titania
8) Classic She-Hulk *****
9) Athena (Herc's sister)
10) Sif
11) Valkyrie
12) She-Thing (Sharon Ventura)

****Note regarding She-Hulk
She Hulk is all over the place power wise depending on which amp or temporary power up she's going through. So I'm using the Classic version. Relatively recently, the Classic version of She-Hulk tapped out at 85 tons :
https://s8.postimg.cc/3lcym9wkx/3371621-she_hulk_lifting_2.jpg

Ok with all that out the way. I say she gets the majority vs all of them. It's a harder fight vs classic She-Hulk but I still think Rogue can pull the majority wins.

juggernaut74
I saw a scan of 90's She-Hulk repping 75 tons tons for 3 reps.

zopzop
Originally posted by juggernaut74
I saw a scan of 90's She-Hulk repping 75 tons tons for 3 reps.
I don't doubt it. That's 10 tons below her limit in the scan I posted. My scan was from 2013 though.

Now give me your opinion on how Rogue does vs those ladies in my OP! smile

beatboks
Rogue should beat all if its not a gauntlet whete she gets no reat between. Only one I see challenging her is Valkyre due to superior combat skill and I think Dragonfang might trouble Rogue's durability (I recall it cutting things a normal blade wouldn't)

zopzop
Originally posted by beatboks
Rogue should beat all if its not a gauntlet whete she gets no reat between.
Yeah, it's not a gauntlet. Rogue is fully rested after each fight.


I agree. Dragonfang is actually no joke. But I still think Rogue has her number because while Valkyrie is a trained warrior, Rogue is by far more mobile and faster (and she DOES have some martial training since she and the other X-Men are in the Danger Room for hours every week practicing and honing their skills) + her 7th sense.

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