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Current Superman.
In the Negative Zone.

Current Supes is too weak for a match like this.
Annihilus himself is enough of a threat to Post Crisis Superman.

What? Current Superman is post crisis Superman with new 52 Superman feats combined.

Superman would break annihilus in half.

Originally posted by abhilegend
What? Current Superman is post crisis Superman with new 52 Superman feats combined.

Superman would break annihilus in half.
Yeah, old argument, but their showings said otherwise. Current Supes has issues breathing in space while PC Supes had never faced that problem during OWAW. Heck, even N52 Supes alone has better striking feats compared to current (Rebirth) Supes.

Originally posted by AbelAnderson
Yeah, old argument, but their showings said otherwise. Current Supes has issues breathing in space while PC Supes had never faced that problem during OWAW. Heck, even N52 Supes alone has better striking feats compared to current (Rebirth) Supes.
Where did current Superman showed needing to breath in space? Post Crisis Superman also had to breath in space from writer to writer.

Also you're comparing Superman's own feats to Superman. Of course he wouldn't have the same feats all the time.

https://s22.postimg.cc/vhxl0a4pp/image.jpg https://s22.postimg.cc/ptra9efst/image.jpg https://s22.postimg.cc/yc0qdqu19/image.jpg https://s22.postimg.cc/5mduh4d6l/image.jpg https://s22.postimg.cc/jg27678ct/image.jpg

Everything in post crisis and new 52 is canon to current Superman.

This comicvine approach is stupid where actual on panel history of the character is ignored.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Where did current Superman showed needing to breath in space? Post Crisis Superman also had to breath in space from writer to writer.

Also you're comparing Superman's own feats to Superman. Of course he wouldn't have the same feats all the time.

https://s22.postimg.cc/vhxl0a4pp/image.jpg https://s22.postimg.cc/ptra9efst/image.jpg https://s22.postimg.cc/yc0qdqu19/image.jpg https://s22.postimg.cc/5mduh4d6l/image.jpg https://s22.postimg.cc/jg27678ct/image.jpg

Everything in post crisis and new 52 is canon to current Superman.

This comicvine approach is stupid where actual on panel history of the character is ignored.

Agree on the part that characters' feats change all the time but the gap is too high in all honesty. PC Supes has statements of planet-shattering power and moon busting feats, N52 Supes has pushed Brainiac's starship with J'onn and his weaker counterpart, Ultraman, had also moved the moon...etc
But what has current Supes done? Despite his previous showing of tanking earth core at the beginning of Rebirth, he really lacks the showings to approach that level.
Also, LOL I get it, this site is against CV but frankly I did not get it from there, nor have I been there.
https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-aad2d629866b2e4f9b39716095718d3e

Superman hasn't done a single thing proving he has become more powerful than he was before New 52. Like I've always said, him merging with his New 52 counterpart brought him back to his original power, it did NOT amp him. He was weakened due to that part of him being taken from him, when they merged back, it made him complete again (post crisis Supes).

Originally posted by AbelAnderson
Agree on the part that characters' feats change all the time but the gap is too high in all honesty. PC Supes has statements of planet-shattering power and moon busting feats, N52 Supes has pushed Brainiac's starship with J'onn and his weaker counterpart, Ultraman, had also moved the moon...etc
But what has current Supes done? Despite his previous showing of tanking earth core at the beginning of Rebirth, he really lacks the showings to approach that level.
Also, LOL I get it, this site is against CV but frankly I did not get it from there, nor have I been there.
https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-aad2d629866b2e4f9b39716095718d3e

He didnt tank Earth core though. It was hurting him, badly.

Originally posted by AbelAnderson
Agree on the part that characters' feats change all the time but the gap is too high in all honesty. PC Supes has statements of planet-shattering power and moon busting feats, N52 Supes has pushed Brainiac's starship with J'onn and his weaker counterpart, Ultraman, had also moved the moon...etc
He has both? You're simply not comprehending that current Superman is the one who did both.



Why would he need to do that to prove the feats he has already done? Current Superman busted through Mxy infinite universal barriers while losing his memories.

Do you need to prove Annihilus feats after Secret Wars which killed previous characters and recreated those?



No, we are just against stupidity.

That's just for communication purposes. That's also James Robinson who had post crisis Superman wear those too.

I'm aware of the current Supes being amalagon of PC and N52, but judged by showings he isn't as impressive as before. As of the merging part, it clearly portrayed in comics that ''New Earth Supes+Prime Earth Supes=Rebirth Supes'', and by being a new, complete version of Superman, he may or may not possess the same power level, as of now, feats don't suggest so.

Seen that, and that makes him infinite universal? Current Superman has infinite universal attack potency? Also since when does one needs to be infinite universal to break the barriers?

Nope, I am merely debating for whether or not current Supes should be allowed to use his PC/N52 feats.



Sure, CV has a lot of problems itself according to what they say in CBR, but so does any other forum.

https://photos.google.com/photo/AF1QipOkJWH4sbPsXi5gNuuUdWs4a1CXHgkd3Ss4v8BW
Posted the wrong one with less evidence. Also it served as an communication device and air supply, PC Supes and N52 Supes had both talked in space easily.

Originally posted by AbelAnderson
I'm aware of the current Supes being amalagon of PC and N52, but judged by showings he isn't as impressive as before. As of the merging part, it clearly portrayed in comics that ''New Earth Supes+Prime Earth Supes=Rebirth Supes'', and by being a new, complete version of Superman, he may or may not possess the same power level, as of now, feats don't suggest so.

So a bunch of nothing and your assumptions?

What feats when he is the one who performed all feats?

Suddenly he is weaker than either parts of his beings?



Those were infinite numbers of universal barriers which he broke through.



Who are you to able to judge that? The comics have already made it clear.

Your opinion whether he is allowed or not is pretty much irrelevant.



Link is broken.



So has rebirth Superman.

Heck, just in recent Superman by Bendis, he is flying around the galaxy without any mask.

This was fun reading.

Originally posted by carver9
He didnt tank Earth core though. It was hurting him, badly.

My scans didnt work. Here you go...

https://static4.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11116/111162583/5555885-superman+earths+core.jpg

The core of Earth was killing him...

https://static1.comicvine.com/uploads/original/7/72524/5418339-1340432466-justi.jpg

And before ABHI adds anything to the showing, here is Cyborg giving us details on the temperature and pressure of Earth core (basically warning Superman)...

https://m.imgur.com/unp2SLx

Originally posted by carver9
My scans didnt work. Here you go...

https://static4.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11116/111162583/5555885-superman+earths+core.jpg

The core of Earth was killing him...

https://static1.comicvine.com/uploads/original/7/72524/5418339-1340432466-justi.jpg

And before ABHI adds anything to the showing, here is Cyborg giving us details on the temperature and pressure of Earth core (basically warning Superman)...

https://m.imgur.com/unp2SLx
We have more showings of Superman actually surviving the core, than "it" hurting him.


But to go on..

Originally posted by AbelAnderson
I'm aware of the current Supes being amalagon of PC and N52, but judged by showings he isn't as impressive as before. As of the merging part, it clearly portrayed in comics that ''New Earth Supes+Prime Earth Supes=Rebirth Supes'', and by being a new, complete version of Superman, he may or may not possess the same power level, as of now, feats don't suggest so.

Seen that, and that makes him infinite universal? Current Superman has infinite universal attack potency? Also since when does one needs to be infinite universal to break the barriers?

Nope, I am merely debating for whether or not current Supes should be allowed to use his PC/N52 feats.



Sure, CV has a lot of problems itself according to what they say in CBR, but so does any other forum.

https://photos.google.com/photo/AF1QipOkJWH4sbPsXi5gNuuUdWs4a1CXHgkd3Ss4v8BW
Posted the wrong one with less evidence. Also it served as an communication device and air supply, PC Supes and N52 Supes had both talked in space easily.

If you want to argue that it's not continuity, you're crazy

If you want to make a case that there is a disparity in power, please go on. There are many cases in comics; most notably Thor, Kal-L.
This current Superman is only ~16 months. You can't actually expect him to stack up as many feat as PFP Superman considering that he is 20+ years old.


What we can see so far suggest he is the same, if not, stronger.

Originally posted by carver9
Superman hasn't done a single thing proving he has become more powerful than he was before New 52. Like I've always said, him merging with his New 52 counterpart brought him back to his original power, it did NOT amp him. He was weakened due to that part of him being taken from him, when they merged back, it made him complete again (post crisis Supes).
No he was not weakened. Please prove that it he was weakened


Either you're saying
N52 is half of the original superman in power, despite the fact that this guy was power lifting earth for 5 days with no sunlight.


It's pretty clear what happened in Superman Rebirth/Action Comics. It was just a spiritual type of combination so that the fans wouldn't get upset regarding N52 Superman not being "the" Superman

Originally posted by riv6672
Current Superman.
In the Negative Zone.

Does Annihilus have the CCR, or the Quantum Bands?

Originally posted by xJLxKing
No he was not weakened. Please prove that it he was weakened


Either you're saying
N52 is half of the original superman in power, despite the fact that this guy was power lifting earth for 5 days with no sunlight.


It's pretty clear what happened in Superman Rebirth/Action Comics. It was just a spiritual type of combination so that the fans wouldn't get upset regarding N52 Superman not being "the" Superman

Little late for that. He hasn't been "the" Superman since the 1940's.

Originally posted by carver9
My scans didnt work. Here you go...

https://static4.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11116/111162583/5555885-superman+earths+core.jpg

The core of Earth was killing him...

https://static1.comicvine.com/uploads/original/7/72524/5418339-1340432466-justi.jpg

And before ABHI adds anything to the showing, here is Cyborg giving us details on the temperature and pressure of Earth core (basically warning Superman)...

https://m.imgur.com/unp2SLx
What's your point carter?

Originally posted by carver9
My scans didnt work. Here you go...

https://static4.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11116/111162583/5555885-superman+earths+core.jpg

The core of Earth was killing him...

https://static1.comicvine.com/uploads/original/7/72524/5418339-1340432466-justi.jpg

And before ABHI adds anything to the showing, here is Cyborg giving us details on the temperature and pressure of Earth core (basically warning Superman)...

https://m.imgur.com/unp2SLx

Haha

I was going to post that in Character Ownage a while back, but decided against it. Glad you read it Carver.

The core of the Earth was hotter than Superman could make his heat vision.

Originally posted by xJLxKing
We have more showings of Superman actually surviving the core, than "it" hurting him.


But to go on..

Ahhhh....so if the most recent showing has Superman unable to survive the core of the planet Earth for long, it does not supersede other showings, because they are superior in number?

Interesting. mhmm

Does this apply to ALL characters, or is this one of those, only for Superman type things?

Poor Superman.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Haha

I was going to post that in Character Ownage a while back, but decided against it. Glad you read it Carver.

The core of the Earth was hotter than Superman could make his heat vision.



Ahhhh....so if the most recent showing has Superman unable to survive the core of the planet Earth for long, it does not supersede other showings, because they are superior in number?

Interesting. mhmm

Does this apply to ALL characters, or is this one of those, only for Superman type things?
So? The writer made it clear only Superman was powerful enough to do that.

Even Supergirl casually went in the sun while Depowered and came up unscathed. Unlike say Mangog or mjolnir.

Superman wins.

Originally posted by abhilegend
So? The writer made it clear only Superman was powerful enough to do that.

Even Supergirl casually went in the sun while Depowered and came up unscathed. Unlike say Mangog or mjolnir.

Mocking Mjolnir/Mangog for dying in the Sun while defending Superman dying in Earth's core by bringing up a secondary character from a completely different comic.



Yup, seems about right.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Mocking Mjolnir/Mangog for dying in the Sun while defending Superman dying in Earth's core by bringing up a secondary character from a completely different comic.



Yup, seems about right.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Mocking Mjolnir/Mangog for dying in the Sun while defending Superman dying in Earth's core by bringing up a secondary character from a completely different comic.



Yup, seems about right.
Superman didn't die though despite attacks from several artifacts which killed beings who created the universe itself.

Both mjolnir and Mangog died.

Lol depending on where in the Sun you are, Earth's core is actually hotter.

Just saying.....

Human Torch would murder Superman.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Lol depending on where in the Sun you are, Earth's core is actually hotter.

Just saying.....

*Sniff* Is that desperation?

IIRC, Earth's core is somewhere between the chromosphere (Visible outer layer) and photosphere (Surface) in heat. The corona, the spiky, turbulent outer layer, (Similar to what we see destroy Asgard and engulf Thor ), gets MUCH hotter, hitting temperatures similar to the body of the Sun.

I just think it's hilarious, that even when using perhaps the dumbest moment in Thor comics that Abhiligend loves to reference, with this comic added into the mix? Superman wouldn't even be able to trim Thor's beard with all-out heat vision.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Superman didn't die though

Oh damn, well, if Superman didn't DIE, that makes it okay then.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
*Sniff* Is that desperation?

IIRC, Earth's core is somewhere between the chromosphere (Visible outer layer) and photosphere (Surface) in heat. The corona, the spiky, turbulent outer layer, (Similar to what we see destroy Asgard and engulf Thor ), gets MUCH hotter, hitting temperatures similar to the body of the Sun.

I just think it's hilarious, that even when using perhaps the dumbest moment in Thor comics that Abhiligend loves to reference, with this comic added into the mix? Superman wouldn't even be able to trim Thor's beard with all-out heat vision.


It was specifically mentioned that the outer core was as hot as the surface of the sun but inner core was much more hotter.

And Hitch Superman would likely break Thor in half without trying, he was more powerful than the rest of the Justice League combined and several tiers above them.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Oh damn, well, if Superman didn't DIE, that makes it okay then.
Yes, seeing how even green lanterns going inside earth was called a suicide.

Who wrote that? Was that Priest too? Not a fan of dumbing down power in team books. I know Priest loves to keep top tier heroes "grounded".

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Who wrote that? Was that Priest too? Not a fan of dumbing down power in team books. I know Priest loves to keep top tier heroes "grounded".
Bryan Hitch. He wrote a stupidly overpowered Superman in comparison to the rest of the team.

Oh wow! So that was way before Priest. That's like early 2017 maybe 2016?

Anyways, it wasn't so bad. Iirc he struggled heavily, but he did survive in the end. Earth core is still crazee.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
*Sniff* Is that desperation?

IIRC, Earth's core is somewhere between the chromosphere (Visible outer layer) and photosphere (Surface) in heat. The corona, the spiky, turbulent outer layer, (Similar to what we see destroy Asgard and engulf Thor ), gets MUCH hotter, hitting temperatures similar to the body of the Sun.

I just think it's hilarious, that even when using perhaps the dumbest moment in Thor comics that Abhiligend loves to reference, with this comic added into the mix? Superman wouldn't even be able to trim Thor's beard with all-out heat vision.



It's...... exactly what I said it was lol. Don't particularly care, am just pointing out.

Same way if someone quoted a comic that said Thor was as powerful as a nuke or something....and someone tried to down play it with potentially erroneous assumptions.

The possible misconception is that the Earth's core is cooler than the Sun, full stop. When in reality, it can be said to be hotter.

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Oh wow! So that was way before Priest. That's like early 2017 maybe 2016?

Anyways, it wasn't so bad. Iirc he struggled heavily, but he did survive in the end. Earth core is still crazee.
That's just how he viewed the power levels. Yet, Superman was more powerful than the rest of the league combined.

https://s8.postimg.cc/nebu3y3y9/image.jpg https://s8.postimg.cc/xbmux0j9t/image.jpg https://s8.postimg.cc/3jpshu469/image.jpg https://s8.postimg.cc/ts0x77vzl/image.jpg https://s8.postimg.cc/rap5zyjsx/image.jpg https://s8.postimg.cc/hq5jd326p/image.jpg

The timeless robots were strong enough to go through Lanterns like nothing and shrug off Diana as nothing with even Zeus struggling against them.

Superman overpowered several dozens of the same robots simultaneously.

And of course his fight with Molly the keeper who was channeling every power through the time at once and moving entire timeline of Earth at once.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Yeah, it was before Superman reborn. And it was pretty much power of creation since it was established in first arc that powers of magic, color, light is what created the universe.

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-q6PqM2sztdE/WOUgRTtSeII/AAAAAAAC4SQ/Knn8mWzrW88C9p_JToZYXm9_QahEgoL5wCLcB/s1600/029_17.jpg

Here it moves the whole solar system along with Earth's timeline.

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-tTwPsZKEyIg/WOUgNSq2SHI/AAAAAAAC4Rk/PXKheB_3_NE1WV_FtXHTtl1WD9JVJfGvQCLcB/s1600/029_06.jpg

Superman vs that power.

https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-oTNbkHqGlHU/WPcgdspbsdI/AAAAAAADTnI/SzgY9sGw7LgacTrlKHy4ZoSeLofoljdzQCLcB/s1600/006_004.jpg
https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-r78qWMQU4lA/WPcgdvC6ClI/AAAAAAADTnM/LEBLwfa95GgZJebmBysdOgK6et-iLVATACLcB/s1600/006_005.jpg
https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-CakK1SNQnRE/WPcge8l1oXI/AAAAAAADTng/9acoWTUreMUjhY78j8ATdJle1BZeCySOACLcB/s1600/006_010.jpg
https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-MYIdqzUIJDk/WPcgfYZLAUI/AAAAAAADTno/S5j6yK7K2LsdqqG0fCccZ-JQVrT22QDXQCLcB/s1600/006_012.jpg
https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-ntckN1g78zk/WPcgfsbh6dI/AAAAAAADTns/ji3yzLoLgX4U4BtNEJtT46tYxa8zFkk2QCLcB/s1600/006_013.jpg
https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-7Ol5zsJLrNc/WPcggLCibrI/AAAAAAADTn0/6qfMEpA2JO0AYxtEfl2hZAQYbvkHxiQcwCLcB/s1600/006_015.jpg
https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-ceU6imwmrps/WPcggmQfiVI/AAAAAAADToA/3n3eEvtZr_8CzpWk0ynWDzTW-ukKTCTZwCLcB/s1600/006_017.jpg

Damn, when he is on roll there is nothing like Superman unleashed.

Rage would likely explode if Thor gets a showing like that.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
It's...... exactly what I said it was lol. Don't particularly care, am just pointing out.

Same way if someone quoted a comic that said Thor was as powerful as a nuke or something....and someone tried to down play it with potentially erroneous assumptions.

The possible misconception is that the Earth's core is cooler than the Sun, full stop. When in reality, it can be said to be hotter.

So your point is that, the Earth's core is possibly as hot as a specific portion of the Sun but much cooler than the actual Sun?

Colossus might be stronger than 4 of the fingers on Superman's left hand, but it is also very accurate, and more relevant to say that Superman is much stronger than Colossus.

I get your point, but usually when people refer to the "Sun", they refer to the body of Sol. Not the thin "chromosphere".

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
So your point is that, the Earth's core is possibly as hot as a specific portion of the Sun but much cooler than the actual Sun?

Colossus might be stronger than 4 of the fingers on Superman's left hand, but it is also very accurate, and more relevant to say that Superman is much stronger than Colossus.

I get your point, but usually when people refer to the "Sun", they refer to the body of Sol. Not the thin "chromosphere".
No, pathetic would be this. Thor fearing for his life against a pool of magma.

http://i.imgur.com/prLJUiw.jpg

Thor going through Earth's core while tanking gravitational pulses strong enough to almost shatter the planet and then pushing 5 miles long devices would be one of his best feats ever.

On Superman, it's his lower than average showing.

Gotta love the hypocrisy.

Abhiligend's collapse at any critic of Superman is jokes. So thin-skinned.

"Superman looked weak there."

*Incessantly posts a bunch of random feats that have nothing to do with the original discussion, while pretending it's unique to Superman.*

Cool story bro, but:
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Human Torch would murder Superman.

Edit:
Originally posted by abhilegend
No, pathetic would be this. Thor fearing for his life against a pool of magma.

http://i.imgur.com/prLJUiw.jpg

Thor going through Earth's core while tanking gravitational pulses strong enough to almost shatter the planet and then pushing 5 miles long devices would be one of his best feats ever.

On Superman, it's his lower than average showing.

Gotta love the hypocrisy.



On a side note, I genuinely think you don't know half the words you use. Do you even know what hypocrisy means?

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus


Abhiligend's collapse at any critic of Superman is jokes. So thin-skinned.

"Superman looked weak there."

*Incessantly posts a bunch of random feats that have nothing to do with the original discussion, while pretending it's unique to Superman.*

Cool story bro, but:


Edit:




On a side note, I genuinely think you don't know half the words you use. Do you even know what hypocrisy means?
*Tries to lowball Superman*
*Backpeddles "Guys, it was just a joke".

You're pathetic.

I mean...this entire discussion IS a joke, but...I never said any of that. I don't think I was lowballing Superman by commenting on the scans Carver posted.

Why are you sensitive? And you accusing anyone of lowballing is an example of pot, kettle, if I've ever seen one.

Don't be mad at me that Carver found a scan where Superman was weaker than an Average God during the God Butcher arc. Lol.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
I mean...this entire discussion IS a joke, but...I never said any of that. I don't think I was lowballing Superman by commenting on the scans Carver posted.

Why are you sensitive? And you accusing anyone of lowballing is an example of pot, kettle, if I've ever seen one.

Don't be mad at me that Carver found a scan where Superman was weaker than an Average God during the God Butcher arc. Lol.
mmm

Originally posted by abhilegend
Superman going into the core of the sun.

https://s17.postimg.cc/yp54r4197/image.jpg https://s17.postimg.cc/iqwf0zeqz/image.jpg https://s17.postimg.cc/3uxvteb23/image.jpg https://s17.postimg.cc/8gu01r4az/image.jpg

Even Supergirl has done the same recently.

https://s17.postimg.cc/7rb7pitij/image.jpg https://s17.postimg.cc/ds8wmlnuj/image.jpg https://s17.postimg.cc/ds8wmlvkb/image.jpg

Anyway you of all people calling anyone sensitive? Dude, you ***** about this on CBR AND KMC when Mangog died in the sun.

Anyway Superman or Supergirl>Mangog and mjolnir.

How about that, eh kid?

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
I mean...this entire discussion IS a joke, but...I never said any of that. I don't think I was lowballing Superman by commenting on the scans Carver posted.

Why are you sensitive? And you accusing anyone of lowballing is an example of pot, kettle, if I've ever seen one.

Don't be mad at me that Carver found a scan where Superman was weaker than an Average God during the God Butcher arc. Lol. You really have hurt Abhi worse than darthgoober the man who broke him with a single battlezone post. That was epic.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
So your point is that, the Earth's core is possibly as hot as a specific portion of the Sun but much cooler than the actual Sun?

Colossus might be stronger than 4 of the fingers on Superman's left hand, but it is also very accurate, and more relevant to say that Superman is much stronger than Colossus.

I get your point, but usually when people refer to the "Sun", they refer to the body of Sol. Not the thin "chromosphere". Ds is easily triggered when defending his man thing, Abhi.

Originally posted by abhilegend
mmm

Anyway you of all people calling anyone sensitive? Dude, you ***** about this on CBR AND KMC when Mangog died in the sun.

Anyway Superman or Supergirl>Mangog and mjolnir.

How about that, eh kid?

Imagine that. I voiced a complaint about a character I enjoy most in comics on the top forums I visited.

And you posted scans about....Mangog/Mjolnir in the Sun on KMC, Herochat AND Comicbookboards. You went out of your way to MOCK a character who you don't enjoy apparently, INDIRECTLY, on THREE separate forums.

You're not only sensitive, you are petty to the point, it impedes your ability to enjoy Superman himself.



And here you are, bringing it up again. As it stands, Superman is less durable than the dirt making up Asgardia, much less Thor. At least Mangog survived a trip into the Sun once. Superman would turn to ash if he struck the corona.

I am going to enjoy what happens next.

Abhi, your 1 week ban will start once the tournament is finished.

Originally posted by xJLxKing
No he was not weakened. Please prove that it he was weakened


Either you're saying
N52 is half of the original superman in power, despite the fact that this guy was power lifting earth for 5 days with no sunlight.


It's pretty clear what happened in Superman Rebirth/Action Comics. It was just a spiritual type of combination so that the fans wouldn't get upset regarding N52 Superman not being "the" Superman

Did you read the story? He outright tells us on multiple occasions (questions himself as well) that he is weakened. I'm going to post 2 but I can post more.

https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11130/111307312/5559204-14.jpg

https://static1.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11130/111307312/5559205-15.jpg

https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11130/111307312/5559220-16.jpg

Hell, he outright tells us that he was weakened due to the split... lol. Again, did you even read the book?

https://www.turboimagehost.com/p/39054392/bz6h5dasu1ry.jpg.html

He even tells us he became WHOLE AGAIN, not amped.

So you're telling me that easily bench-pressing the planet's weight for five days with minimal access to sunlight was done with only half of post-crisis Superman's power?

Originally posted by NemeBro
So you're telling me that easily bench-pressing the planet's weight for five days with minimal access to sunlight was done with only half of post-crisis Superman's power?

His highest ft ever, I would say, POSSIBLY. The Superman we have now said he was weakened, we dont know where the other Superman power level was at due to circumstances, etc...

The Superman in the scan above struggled to break free from the weight of a mountain and even admitted he wasnt strong enough to get free whereas the other Superman had no such problems. He was obviously weakened, you can even tell from the scans I posted above. The proof is to show us where the other Superman was power wise.

Originally posted by carver9
Did you read the story? He outright tells us on multiple occasions (questions himself as well) that he is weakened. I'm going to post 2 but I can post more.

https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11130/111307312/5559204-14.jpg

https://static1.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11130/111307312/5559205-15.jpg

https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11130/111307312/5559220-16.jpg

Hell, he outright tells us that he was weakened due to the split... lol. Again, did you even read the book?

https://www.turboimagehost.com/p/39054392/bz6h5dasu1ry.jpg.html

Where does it say he was weakened?

Originally posted by Zack M
Where does it say he was weakened?

Go to bed.

It's only 6:30, mate.

Originally posted by carver9
His highest ft ever, I would say, POSSIBLY. The Superman we have now said he was weakened, we dont know where the other Superman power level was at due to circumstances, etc...

The Superman in the scan above struggled to break free from the weight of a mountain and even admitted he wasnt strong enough to get free whereas the other Superman had no such problems. He was obviously weakened, you can even tell from the scans I posted above. The proof is to show us where the other Superman was power wise.

Originally posted by carver9
Did you read the story? He outright tells us on multiple occasions (questions himself as well) that he is weakened. I'm going to post 2 but I can post more.

https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11130/111307312/5559204-14.jpg

https://static1.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11130/111307312/5559205-15.jpg

https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11130/111307312/5559220-16.jpg

Hell, he outright tells us that he was weakened due to the split... lol. Again, did you even read the book?

https://www.turboimagehost.com/p/39054392/bz6h5dasu1ry.jpg.html
He was weakened due to Vandal Savage. Jurgens confirmed it.

https://mobile.twitter.com/thedanjurgens/status/743479302646177792

And Superman in rebirth was stated to be more powerful than new 52 Superman due to absorbing more power from the sun.

https://s33.postimg.cc/agv13jcln/image.jpg

Originally posted by abhilegend


He was weakened due to Vandal Savage. Jurgens confirmed it.

https://mobile.twitter.com/thedanjurgens/status/743479302646177792

And Superman in rebirth was stated to be more powerful than new 52 Superman due to absorbing more power from the sun.

https://s33.postimg.cc/agv13jcln/image.jpg

We seen what happened with the Vandal scene. You're trippin.

That scan does not say what you just said and context. There is MAJOR context to that scene.

Originally posted by carver9
We seen what happened with the Vandal scene. You're trippin.

That scan does not say what you just said and context. There is MAJOR context to that scene.
Right, post the vandal scene and the context to the Superman scene.

Educate us carver.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Right, post the vandal scene and the context to the Superman scene.

Educate us carver.

Why do I need to post the Vandal scene and what does that have to do with the split vs Superman being weakened? It truly doesnt because if it did, Superman wouldnt be made whole due to him merging with a weakened Superman.

The split weakened Superman. Him merging back with his other half made him whole again.

Originally posted by carver9
Why do I need to post the Vandal scene and what does that have to do with the split vs Superman being weakened? It truly doesnt because if it did, Superman wouldnt be made whole due to him merging with a weakened Superman.

The split weakened Superman. Him merging back with his other half made him whole again.
Even if that was true, it would only make post crisis Superman very strong new 52 Superman was and Rebirth Superman was even stronger.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Even if that was true, it would only make post crisis Superman very strong new 52 Superman was and Rebirth Superman was even stronger.

Superman say it in the scan I posted. It can not get any clearer than that.

Superman is extremely strong. Dont get what the issue is. Sad thing is, he will probably have far worse showings than his bench pressing and Brainiac showing in his rebirth body. New 52 Superman gained a lot of love that you'll never see again. Hold on to those fts from that version of Superman.

You will not be sad. Far from it.

Thanks for the warning though.

Originally posted by xJLxKing
We have more showings of Superman actually surviving the core, than "it" hurting him.


But to go on..

This post is hilarious. You outright bashed every single character in Asgard due to the recent sun showing but you neglect accepting the scans I posted because...

This is just sad.

Originally posted by carver9
Did you read the story? He outright tells us on multiple occasions (questions himself as well) that he is weakened. I'm going to post 2 but I can post more.

https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11130/111307312/5559204-14.jpg

https://static1.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11130/111307312/5559205-15.jpg

https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11130/111307312/5559220-16.jpg

Hell, he outright tells us that he was weakened due to the split... lol. Again, did you even read the book?

https://www.turboimagehost.com/p/39054392/bz6h5dasu1ry.jpg.html

I remember you and JBL kept arguing Superman wasn't weakened by the split, because you two so desperately wanted that to be true. To the point you two outright ignored the very scans you posted(except the last one) whenever I'd bring them up to show he earlier said to be weakened. You're probably going to forget what you're currently arguing in a few weeks and argue he was never weakened and nothing changed when he merged back, when you need to argue that. Just like you made so many arguments Amazo is weak, even citing Wonder Woman stalemating him as an example, then when you needed it, argued Wonder Woman stalemating him was amazing, when you so desperately tried to put her above Orion and Maxima. Then had a laughable justification for your back tracking.

Originally posted by NemeBro
So you're telling me that easily bench-pressing the planet's weight for five days with minimal access to sunlight was done with only half of post-crisis Superman's power?

Originally posted by carver9
His highest ft ever, I would say, POSSIBLY. The Superman we have now said he was weakened, we dont know where the other Superman power level was at due to circumstances, etc...

The Superman in the scan above struggled to break free from the weight of a mountain and even admitted he wasnt strong enough to get free whereas the other Superman had no such problems. He was obviously weakened, you can even tell from the scans I posted above. The proof is to show us where the other Superman was power wise.

Superman has multiple better feats than this, even taking into account being half powered. Must hurt you carter.