Leo's Secret Wars!!1! Abhi vs PG

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Philosophía
location: savage land

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/2/24/Shanna_the_She-Devil%2C_vol_2%2C_no_1_%282005%29_%28cover_art%29.jpg


Starting distance is 50km apart.

judges:ds, phil and boks

psycho gundam

Philosophía
Abhi's post:

psycho gundam
My apologies for the delay yet again. I intended to post this days ago.

The only pertinent part of his OP is what I will address:

https://i.imgur.com/xfTK5wX.jpg

Oh boy. Pretty low level spin doctoring above.

First off, those characters waltzing into Gamma base was explained in your scans.

https://i.imgur.com/WSs7KgK.jpg

There was no other way for anyone or anything to bypass Vector's deflection, chiefly the main makeup of your offensive towards me.

And second and most importantly, Abhilegend wholeheartedly agrees that Vector can and has deflected Strange's spells on panel quite casually, however I now pose a question to him and the judges:

What is it about a tracking spell that makes it unique or set apart from other spells?

The answer: Nothing. Magic is magic

There is nothing inherent about a "tracking spell" that separates it from Xavier's entire power set being blocked and technologies Tony Stark or Reed Richards can employ to locate someone other than the indisputable fact that Vector's power is to deflect things away from his person/location. That's what Strange tried to do and that's why it didn't work then or now. Another thing that makes the "just a tracking spell" argument absurd is that it was all the things I just listed which have no correlation being deflected just as easily. Vector's power doesn't discriminate on what he wants to deflect other than his intent, and that's how Strange is crippled here. More importantly than even that, I am in control here. Vector's power being argued to be relegated to just deflecting "tracking spells" is not even a factor here. Everything I choose is deflected. Case closed.

I fully acknowledge that even feeling the need to explain is not needed but judges might need some expounding on the topic, especially when simpler things in the past have gone misunderstood.

-Second gear-

I was saving this for Leo/Damborg but the setting is just right for some "assertive sexual relations".

https://i.imgur.com/S0PzyHw.jpg

And lo, here he is an amalgam with an actual super-criminal, one Simon Utrecht, once again with a malignant personality and of course, no CIS. I am in control here.

I welcome the flames.

The arena we are fighting in is the Savage land, and as you can see it's encircled by volcanoes. As touched on in the last battlezone, MM in the past has used heat vision to reignite a dormant volcano. That will happen here during the blitz.

https://i.imgur.com/HGkQ1A0.jpg

abhilegend
Let's tear this apart, shall we?



Let's just see how Strange can see right down to immaterial and invisible.

https://postimg.cc/gallery/guhqo7js/

Very clearly. You can't hide from eye of Agamatto.





And that's not going to break any of Strange's mental shields. In fact it would be an illusion which can fool the likes of Dormammu with Eternity's power.

https://postimg.cc/gallery/1yxcitkak/

You are not going to find me. Ever.




That's not the only time Strange's tracking spells are deflected. Ikonn actually blacked out Orb of Agamatto itself and Strange's astral self which is beyond Vector as we saw. Strange still popped Ikonn (a deity on par with Dormammu) mind like a cherry and stopped time within his forcefield.


https://s15.postimg.cc/hmptmwgdz/image.jpg https://s15.postimg.cc/opxp2j193/image.jpg https://s15.postimg.cc/pfghewoxz/image.jpg https://s15.postimg.cc/yn8pvn6av/image.jpg https://s15.postimg.cc/ktkd6llfb/image.jpg https://s15.postimg.cc/qhqnxhxhj/image.jpg https://s15.postimg.cc/l6brcsj4n/image.jpg

Your only hope, Vector is helpless against Darkhawk who stops his attack with his forcefield and koes him.

https://postimg.cc/gallery/3cc5z6prw/

Almost kills him with a blast.

https://postimg.cc/gallery/2ws7xoto8/

And magic can deflect Vector's attacks. Like Volstagg does with his sword.

https://postimg.cc/gallery/285j9w35o/

Magic can be used to controll him. Just like Taskmaster did with serpent crown.

https://postimg.cc/gallery/1m7w5axx4/

And just pure TK would do it too. Like Justice KTFO him with a TK blast through his shields.

https://postimg.cc/gallery/2sl0vydbw/

And Strange can just drain you of all your power like he did to Captain Universe.

http://i.imgur.com/utpAsKY.jpg

So yeah, Vector isn't doing shit here.




Vector didn't repel shit and as we saw, he is useless against intangible beings.



Yeah, because Ray is composed of atoms. I'm not, I'm made of living light. Being intangible also makes martian vision pass through like Flash does here.

https://postimg.cc/gallery/3it4tix4o/

Wally was only harmed because he had to change the frequency of the energy otherwise he would just phase through it.







This is hilarious. LL doesn't has molecules.




This is just hilarious. J'onn didn't go eight times speed of light in that scene. Full context.

https://postimg.cc/gallery/1t7opw4l4/

J'onn and Gypsy were carried by the inertia of the ship and J'onn held himself with a TK grip when he couldn't match its speed.



Is that why Thor oneshotted Vector by blasting X ray to him through his full repulsion field?

https://s15.postimg.cc/bxe6ghrxn/image.jpg

Specefically said Vector can't repel such a blast.

Imagine what a blast which can stagger Galactus would do to him.

http://i.imgur.com/igKPWyT.jpg



This might be the most delusional post ever.






Originally posted by psycho gundam
My apologies for the delay yet again. I intended to post this days ago.

The only pertinent part of his OP is what I will address:



Oh boy. Pretty low level spin doctoring above.

First off, those characters waltzing into Gamma base was explained in your scans.




Except they didn't come from inside the base, they came from outside the base.

https://postimg.cc/image/hfz4pfr99/
https://postimg.cc/image/e94l5tej1/

Hence why I posted the full scans.




Right, just like Vision.

https://postimg.cc/image/o7pjrw39p/



Because its not the first time Strange has made bitches of anti magic things. Even depowered Strange who couldn't even teleport busted Empirikul's anti magic shield which literally destroyed entire magic on Earth.

That monster Mr Misery was created by Strange's own pain and is entirely his own power.

https://postimg.cc/gallery/17bd7sqig/

And by entire magic, I mean entire magic on Earth.

https://postimg.cc/gallery/oh78c9h8/

Vector isn't shit compared to that.



How naive.



Except no, its not. Strange can easily deflect Vector's own power back.

Deflects power cosmic.

http://i.imgur.com/D5YdWA7.jpg

Deflects blasts from Galactus.

http://i.imgur.com/zsyhlFX.jpg

Deflects the spells of most powerful sorcerers on earth magnified hundredfold.

http://i.imgur.com/eWskpZe.jpg

Eye of Agamatto reflects a proton gun at the speed of light. The beam crumbled Strange's shields.

https://postimg.cc/gallery/wwuyo9oc/



Right, let's see how J'onn fares against mighty flames of Human Flame and Effigy.

https://postimg.cc/gallery/30gkkzoe0/

Oneshotted and kept as a ***** for a whole week in a cage of flame.

Also Final Crisis, a flaming spear kills J'onn. After he koed by a fire darts.

https://postimg.cc/image/uokevqat7/

I can post like a dozen scans more if judges need that.




Are you seriously trying to beat me by a volcano? Even my basic auto shields have withstood destruction of a planet and a superova.

https://postimg.cc/gallery/1htv3wwkc/
https://postimg.cc/gallery/kshs5rdo/

But don't stop on my count. Let's see what happened the last time J'onn went in a volcano AFTER trial by fire.

https://postimg.cc/gallery/1apyx2pdo/

Go ahead, turn into goo once I throw the volcano at you.

abhilegend
Now, this is just mercy killing at this point.

Let's recap this. This is the only offense PG has turned up with.

https://imgur.com/X7NhG94

And this.

https://i.imgur.com/jyk4Sf0.jpg

Completely laughable. Its like Gundam didn't even want to be part of the tourney.

As I showed, Vector doesn't deal well with direct attacks. And Strange can still cast spells inside his force field just like he did against Ikonn.


https://s15.postimg.cc/hmptmwgdz/image.jpg https://s15.postimg.cc/opxp2j193/image.jpg https://s15.postimg.cc/pfghewoxz/image.jpg https://s15.postimg.cc/yn8pvn6av/image.jpg https://s15.postimg.cc/ktkd6llfb/image.jpg https://s15.postimg.cc/qhqnxhxhj/image.jpg https://s15.postimg.cc/l6brcsj4n/image.jpg


Your only hope, Vector is helpless against Darkhawk who stops his attack with his forcefield and koes him.

https://postimg.cc/gallery/3cc5z6prw/

Almost kills him with a blast.

https://postimg.cc/gallery/2ws7xoto8/

And magic can deflect Vector's attacks. Like Volstagg does with his sword.

https://postimg.cc/gallery/285j9w35o/

Magic can be used to controll him. Just like Taskmaster did with serpent crown.

https://postimg.cc/gallery/1m7w5axx4/

And just pure TK would do it too. Like Justice KTFO him with a TK blast through his shields.

https://postimg.cc/gallery/2sl0vydbw/

Thor's blast of radiation is explicitly more than Vector can repel.

https://s15.postimg.cc/bxe6ghrxn/image.jpg

Imagine what a blast which can stagger Galactus would do to him.

http://i.imgur.com/igKPWyT.jpg

And Strange can destroy the moon while exhausted.

http://i.imgur.com/vGXmXQC.jpg

Destroys planet.

http://i.imgur.com/YrQUb7v.jpg

Destroys a sun.

http://i.imgur.com/DVzPuVd.jpg

In what world is Vector going to repel such kind of attacks? Gundam's fantasy world?

Also Vector can't affect intangible beings which I will be at the start of the fight.

https://postimg.cc/image/o7pjrw39p/

Being intangible means I can phase through martian vision as well if by any mean it gets past my shields which is just not possible for Gundam.

https://postimg.cc/gallery/3it4tix4o/

My shield even stops intangible attacks.



https://postimg.cc/gallery/1htv3wwkc/
https://postimg.cc/gallery/kshs5rdo/



These shields can even stop the intangible attacks like Deathurge which have pierced the likes of Quasar and Silver Surfer with no issues.



http://i.imgur.com/4NZu3Zs.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/IHY9b0F.jpg



Deathurge attacks are by default intangible.

Let's just see how Strange can see right down to immaterial and invisible.

https://postimg.cc/gallery/guhqo7js/

Very clearly. You can't hide from eye of Agamatto.


And J'onn is not going to break any of Strange's mental shields. In fact it would be an illusion which can fool the likes of Dormammu with Eternity's power.

https://postimg.cc/gallery/1yxcitkak/

Or put a hungry Galactus to near death.

https://postimg.cc/gallery/o0bakj08/

You are not going to find me. Ever.

https://postimg.cc/image/hfq4dcw4n/

The next thing is speed, Living Laser can of course move at speed of light.

https://postimg.cc/gallery/2o2twfz8u/


But what you don't know is that Dr Strange can move at the speed of thought as well.

https://postimg.cc/gallery/2i0gh0u9k/

Umar cleaved through Earth in a microsecond with her spell. Dr Strange moved so fast that time stood still while he overtook her spell meant to kill Clea and had enough time to move around and stop the spell by his own shields.

So that takes care of speed issue. After all J'onn is not lightspeed fast and Wally West approaching lightspeed made Zum (white Martian) look like a statue.

https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11/111336/3765601-7419779267-29974.jpg

And let's face it, J'onn is horrible against magic. Faust has blinded him with no effort and even a comatose Zatanna booted him out of her mind, Arion has simply controlled him very easily and so has Wotan.

https://postimg.cc/gallery/3cwrj28mm/

Next, I blind J'onn just like I blinded Mephisto.

https://postimg.cc/gallery/las7qsz2/

Next thing is his TP. Just forget about that.

Defeats Umar in her own realm. Umar has easily mindcontrolled Hulk in the past.

http://i.imgur.com/sghOaoo.jpg

Bested Nightmare in his own realm.

http://i.imgur.com/5dCobPS.jpg

And even Adam Warlock using mind gem when he had full IG were not able to do anything to Strange with the eye of Agamotto.

https://postimg.cc/gallery/1qhte6p9a/

And has dropped HOM Wanda with just one attack.

https://postimg.cc/gallery/2ritjxo32/

Next is strength. Even the mindless Hulk can't breach Strange's autoshields and just gives up.

http://i.imgur.com/sI7JL3E.jpg

Next is intangibility which I already covered in autoshields part. Just to let you know J'onn only partially becomes intangible so his atoms don't drift apart and he is still vulnerable to fire.

https://postimg.cc/gallery/1l6ljxve6/

And Dr Strange can create flames so intense that even Ghost Rider, a being of pure hellfire can't withstand it.

http://i.imgur.com/EkLcZud.jpg

Or create flames which would burn forever.

https://postimg.cc/gallery/1l6ljxve6/

J'onn was almost killed by a mere blast of hellfire from Etrigan.

https://postimg.cc/gallery/pbhqm0j2/

Circe has also oneshotted J'onn while shutting off his TP.

https://postimg.cc/image/sd0gdxbd9/

So there is nothing he can do while I trap him into an illusion of his fear (fire).

https://postimg.cc/gallery/11nuwd49o/

Create actual fire to melt him down, cut off his telepathy, transmute him into basically nothing like Circe did.

https://postimg.cc/image/rda5i1w5p/

Also regarding his speed, J'onn didn't go eight times speed of light in that scene. Full context.

https://postimg.cc/gallery/1t7opw4l4/

J'onn and Gypsy were carried by the inertia of the ship and J'onn held himself with a TK grip when he couldn't match its speed.

Also, Strange can easily deflect Vector's own power back.

Deflects power cosmic.

http://i.imgur.com/D5YdWA7.jpg

Deflects blasts from Galactus.

http://i.imgur.com/zsyhlFX.jpg

Deflects the spells of most powerful sorcerers on earth magnified hundredfold.

http://i.imgur.com/eWskpZe.jpg

Eye of Agamatto reflects a proton gun at the speed of light. The beam crumbled Strange's shields.

https://postimg.cc/gallery/wwuyo9oc/

let's see how J'onn fares against mighty flames of Human Flame and Effigy.

https://postimg.cc/gallery/30gkkzoe0/

Oneshotted and kept as a ***** for a whole week in a cage of flame.

Also Final Crisis, a flaming spear kills J'onn. After he koed by a fire darts.

https://postimg.cc/image/uokevqat7/

Let's see what happened the last time J'onn went in a volcano AFTER trial by fire.

https://postimg.cc/gallery/1apyx2pdo/

And Dr Strange can create flames so intense that even Ghost Rider, a being of pure hellfire can't withstand it.

http://i.imgur.com/EkLcZud.jpg

Or create flames which would burn forever.

https://postimg.cc/gallery/1l6ljxve6/

So in essence, PG is blinded, his TP cut off, placed in an illusion of fire, turned into goo, transmuted and all around destroyed with ease.


It wasn't nice for you to phone in PG, I am disappointed in you.

psycho gundam
Originally posted by abhilegend
Let's recap this. This is the only offense PG has turned up with.

https://imgur.com/X7NhG94

And this.

https://i.imgur.com/jyk4Sf0.jpg In other words: "Pg has a scan that completely encapsulates how the flow of combat can operate but I will ignore it cause it's too much the answer to my plan of attack. I'll just post an out of context respect thread instead". You know how much of that post spam is misinterpretation? Some of it isn't even pertaining to any of the character in this battle. Like not even the ones I've drafted.

Like, goddamn that scan is troublesome. It's like you're on a perfect date with this really hot chick and she's saying all types of nasty shit to you and then all of a sudden Joey Greco, his camera team and your wife cockblock the whole thing. You're confidently posting your side of the argument which I respect, but it still in ignorance of a scan of your character specifically being neutered by mine on-panel.

Abhilegend can't talk his way around the fact that Strange is completely flummoxed by his inability to conjure anything to work against a not even specifically attuned barrier that powersets that Strange doesn't even have also fall prey to just as easily. Abhilegend himself even acknowledges it.

Vector was casually deflecting Telepathy, magic and electromagnetic waves from Gamma base. He wasn't really giving it his all when he did it. He's accidentally overused his power and repelled reality itself which is far and away what I need him to do here since it's already been proven that far less has completely rendered Strange useless.

Lastly, I asked Abhilegend to substantiate his claims that a "tracking spell" is somehow unique or even too difficult for Vector to outdo and he simply ignored that. There is nothing about what Vector did that can't be replicated or easily exceeded, especially when I am in control of his power without CIS. Abhilegend doesn't even have the vast array of tools Strange has at his Sanctum that failed him when this happened on panel the first time in this thread, not to mention Strange is under duress and not in his home wit time to attempt to solve a problem (which again he didn't).

-RAPE-

So I also proposed how the most malicious aspects of Martian manhunter's race's powers should open to him like in his Fernus days.

Completely takes out the Justice league using telepathy/telekinesis

Apparently has the ability to phase other objects/organic matter like he did to sink Superman into a table, putting him into a coma.

oneshots Wally while he was using his super speed.

Etcetera

Summary

- He's slower by a huge margin.

- His intangibility is not all that's it's cracked up to be. Living laser gets hurt by attacks all the time and I have a character whose heat vision blasts can kill the Ray from prolonged blasts. Living laser is made of photons and are not matter, yes, but they fall under the electromagnetic spectrum and Vector can and has repelled that. The Vision scans he used are more akin to what MM does when he also phases and vector technically has worse showings repelling matter than non-material things.

- Nothing abhilegend's character conjures can touch my character, proven on-panel. It doesn't matter if Strange is in a force field or not. His magic can't function as an attack like Abhilegend needs it to do.

- He can't sense or track my character at all, my opponent had directly admitted this. He is fighting a ghost also prevents him from using his "ghost busting" powers.

- His shields might as well be a soap bubble.

- Fire is not only useless as an offensive, I went and created some myself.

Philosophía
We've got a 2-0/3 votes, so I'll post it to move this quick.

Philosophía
Beatboks' vote:



My vote:



Winner: Abhi

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