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Who wins?

Gorr wins, he was above OKT.
But Larfleeze isn't push over given he had an upper hand against Hal with both green and blue power ring, and he also destroyed an army of GL...etc.
Gorr on the other hand, had taken god blast from OKT without clear damage, covered a star with his powers, ripped an elder god's heart...etc
I'd put Larfleeze at somewhere close to the skyfather tier, but Gorr is there above OKT.

Larfleeze Originally posted by AbelAnderson
Gorr wins, he was above OKT.
But Larfleeze isn't push over given he had an upper hand against Hal with both green and blue power ring, and he also destroyed an army of GL...etc.
Gorr on the other hand, had taken god blast from OKT without clear damage, covered a star with his powers, ripped an elder god's heart...etc
I'd put Larfleeze at somewhere close to the skyfather tier, but Gorr is there above OKT.
Larfleeze has also destroyed an entire pantheon who destroyed their entire universe.

Larfleeze

killing random nameless gods does not come close to having the power of an entire lantern corps, Larf is above skyfather

the fights in god butcher arc was not impressive at all compare to the lanterns big fights that deal with universal threats

All Black the Necro Sword is capable of one shot killing a Celestial.

Who isn't nowadays?

The same can be said about Lanterns, and their Guardians. But by all means tell me who is one shot killing Celestials these days. And who easily destroys Gods that wrestle Black Holes for fun.

Originally posted by Stoic
The same can be said about Lanterns, and their Guardians. But by all means tell me who is one shot killing Celestials these days. And who easily destroys Gods that wrestle Black Holes for fun.
The funny thing is that Knull killed the celestial before he created necrosword.

He was also defeated and buried by symbiotes.

Originally posted by abhilegend
The funny thing is that Knull killed the celestial before he created necrosword.

He was also defeated and buried by symbiotes.

Knull used a weakened version of the All Black to kill the Celestial before making it more powerful. Knull was also trapped by those Symbiotes after falling victim to an assault by the Celestials if I am not mistaken. Anything ever hurt Larfleeze?

Originally posted by Stoic
Knull used a weakened version of the All Black to kill the Celestial before making it more powerful. Knull was also trapped by those Symbiotes after falling victim to an assault by the Celestials if I am not mistaken. Anything ever hurt Larfleeze?
There was no connection given with the earlier weapon and necrosword.

He wasn't defeated by celestials. He was defeated by a random god on the home planet of Gorr.

Correction. It was the light from Thor's lightning that caused Knull to be engulfed by the Symbiote race. sorry just checked.

A symbiote attached itself to the legendary European monster named Grendel that Knull used as a puppet, and the light of Thor's lightning cut the connection between Knull and the Grendel host which also cut his connection to the symbiote race/horde.

Gorr did not have any weakness to light as shown when he repeatedly took lightning strikes from all three Thor's. Even the all father Thor with the Thor Force was unable to put him down during the God of Thunder God Bomb arc.

Knull was also killing those random Gods by the bus load before being brought down by one of them that likely hit him by surprise if we consider how many of those same random gods he killed before being injured.

Originally posted by abhilegend
There was no connection given with the earlier weapon and necrosword.

He wasn't defeated by celestials. He was defeated by a random god on the home planet of Gorr.

Has Larfleeze ever been hurt?

Originally posted by Stoic
Has Larfleeze ever been hurt?
What's that got to do with anything?

Originally posted by abhilegend
What's that got to do with anything?

Being objective to both sides. I'm only seeing you argue for one side without showing both sides strengths and weaknesses. Comes across as being a bit biased.

Yes, he has been hurt. But even with two lantern corps, two guardians, WL Kyle and Hal Jordan wouldn't have enough to beat Larfleeze.

Gorr isn't that powerful.

Originally posted by abhilegend
The funny thing is that Knull killed the celestial before he created necrosword.

He was also defeated and buried by symbiotes.
Seriously? The guy that created the symbiotes decapitated a Celestial (the same guy that's weak vs Thor's 'divine' lightening)? Phucking FAIL Marvel!

Larfleeze destroys this clown (and Knull).

Originally posted by abhilegend
Yes, he has been hurt. But even with two lantern corps, two guardians, WL Kyle and Hal Jordan wouldn't have enough to beat Larfleeze.

Gorr isn't that powerful.

Why wouldn't Gorr be able to do everything that you mentioned? I mean what proof do you have? Gorr was blasted a light year away into a planet without showing any signs of injury when he took a shot from All Father Thor. AF Thor was superior to Odin with the Odin Force according to on panel citation.

Originally posted by zopzop
Seriously? The guy that created the symbiotes decapitated a Celestial (the same guy that's weak vs Thor's 'divine' lightening)? Phucking FAIL MARVEL!
At this point U shouldn't be surprised at what he can do. He's as powerful as the story needs him to be.

Originally posted by zopzop
Seriously? The guy that created the symbiotes decapitated a Celestial (the same guy that's weak vs Thor's 'divine' lightening)? Phucking FAIL Marvel!

Larfleeze destroys this clown (and Knull).

He's not weak to Thor's lightning, I think it's more the fact that Thor's lightning surprised him and temporarily shortcircuited his control of all those symbiotes.

At any rate I'd still take Larfleeze over Gorr.

Originally posted by abhilegend
There was no connection given with the earlier weapon and necrosword.

He wasn't defeated by celestials. He was defeated by a random god on the home planet of Gorr.

There was a connection BTW. They are the same weapon. Knull later tempered the All Black in Celestial fire as shown on panel.

Originally posted by krisblaze
He's not weak to Thor's lightning, I think it's more the fact that Thor's lightning surprised him and temporarily shortcircuited his control of all those symbiotes.

At any rate I'd still take Larfleeze over Gorr.

Correct. Thor's lightning cut Knull's connection to the symbiote race, and in his weakened state they jailed him.

Originally posted by Stoic
Why wouldn't Gorr be able to do everything that you mentioned? I mean what proof do you have? Gorr was blasted a light year away into a planet without showing any signs of injury when he took a shot from All Father Thor. AF Thor was superior to Odin with the Odin Force according to on panel citation.
Because he isn't that powerful?

OKT wasn't superior to Odin, he was without his power for hundreds of years.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Because he isn't that powerful?

OKT wasn't superior to Odin, he was without his power for hundreds of years.

But didn't he say that he was more powerful than Odin on panel to his younger self? I thought that I read him say that.

Not that I know of.

Originally posted by abhilegend
There was no connection given with the earlier weapon and necrosword..

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The first weapon he ever created, the proto-symbiote, WAS the Necrosword in it's infant form. It became All-Black after being forged in the Celestial's head and killing pantheons:
https://s22.postimg.cc/mbc49cgyl/RCO005_w.jpg https://s22.postimg.cc/am84le5fh/RCO007.jpg https://s22.postimg.cc/48j1i4stp/RCO008.jpghttps://s22.postimg.cc/4lafodvot/RCO009.jpg

It literally transitions from him whipping the weapon one, killing the Celestial (It even highlights that as he is banished by the First Host, he is grasping his first sword), and forging the All-Black.

For anyone who wants to read the issue:
https://readcomiconline.to/Comic/Venom-2018/Issue-4?id=137663

Why do you gotta lie for NO reason? It's so odd.

Like, am I being unnecessarily mean guys? I want some opinions. Reading that set of scans, where he repeatedly calls the All-Black his first weapon, his first-born etc. do you not thing Abhiligend is operating in bad faith?

No, he's a Jack ass. But this isn't new, best to ignore it really.

Larfleeze has too many "low" feats.

He should win but I cant forget about all the low feats he picked up by sticking around Hal and the Co

Originally posted by xJLxKing
Larfleeze has too many "low" feats.

He should win but I cant forget about all the low feats he picked up by sticking around Hal and the Co

I'm not too sure about the low feats, but he had a lot of high ones in his solo series. He took on several trans to skyfather level opponents at the same time. And they ended up destroying their own universe, before they fought Lar.

Originally posted by xJLxKing
Larfleeze has too many "low" feats.

He should win but I cant forget about all the low feats he picked up by sticking around Hal and the Co
The early awesome OP Larf is as much gone as the early awesome Atrocitus.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
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The first weapon he ever created, the proto-symbiote, WAS the Necrosword in it's infant form. It became All-Black after being forged in the Celestial's head and killing pantheons:
https://s22.postimg.cc/mbc49cgyl/RCO005_w.jpg https://s22.postimg.cc/am84le5fh/RCO007.jpg https://s22.postimg.cc/48j1i4stp/RCO008.jpghttps://s22.postimg.cc/4lafodvot/RCO009.jpg

It literally transitions from him whipping the weapon one, killing the Celestial (It even highlights that as he is banished by the First Host, he is grasping his first sword), and forging the All-Black.

For anyone who wants to read the issue:
https://readcomiconline.to/Comic/Venom-2018/Issue-4?id=137663

Why do you gotta lie for NO reason? It's so odd.
Wut? Why would you leave the scan which is actually important?

https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-5kzPGCKi56U/W1h-s-6Xz_I/AAAAAAACTNg/gscD9NZwY6ob3f7oLSgmv4l-RMzREv-nACLcBGAs/s1600/069_006.jpg

The previous blade was destroyed so he pulled a sword again from his shadow and created the necrosword.

I know you're just a liar but this is embarrassing.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Like, am I being unnecessarily mean guys? I want some opinions. Reading that set of scans, where he repeatedly calls the All-Black his first weapon, his first-born etc. do you not thing Abhiligend is operating in bad faith? Originally posted by Damborgson
No, he's a Jack ass. But this isn't new, best to ignore it really.


Birds of a feather and all that shit.

Originally posted by Damborgson
No, he's a Jack ass. But this isn't new, best to ignore it really.

Abhi has no credibility whatsoever.

Originally posted by xJLxKing
Larfleeze has too many "low" feats.

He should win but I cant forget about all the low feats he picked up by sticking around Hal and the Co Gorr destroys him.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Wut? Why would you leave the scan which is actually important?

The previous blade was destroyed so he pulled a sword again from his shadow and created the necrosword.

I know you're just a liar but this is embarrassing.

Postimages glitch (Hence the comic link). Here is the full sequence again. Read it, CAREFULLY:
https://s22.postimg.cc/mbc49cgyl/RCO005_w.jpghttps://s22.postimg.cc/odlses3wd/RCO006.jpg https://s22.postimg.cc/am84le5fh/RCO007.jpg https://s22.postimg.cc/48j1i4stp/RCO008.jpghttps://s22.postimg.cc/4lafodvot/RCO009.jpg

LOOK at the pictures. The sword was never destroyed. We see that the blade survived his banishment in his hand as he falls. And when the picture fades to black, he is forging the All-Black from that same sword.

https://s22.postimg.cc/5zb9auhc1/Inked_RCO006_LI.jpg

The biggest irony? This actually HURTS your argument in this thread. Following your narrative, Gorr would one-shot kill Larfleeze using power scaling.

A being who could casually whip out a weapon that could one-shot kill Celestial, imagine how much more powerful would a weapon he actually put blood and tears into be? Magnitudes superior.

Unfortunately, I'm not a deceitful little shit like you are, so I have to take a stance that makes Gorr's weapon less impressive, but your dumbass thinks "Indirect Thor feat", and your little brain starts spinning like a hamster in it's ball trying to find a way to invalidate it. Ironically, taking a stance that there is:


Smh.

New's flash dumbass: The connection is that if he can one-shot kill a Celestial with a casual construct, a weapon he forged that he put so much power into, he was near helpless for centuries, would be noticeably more powerful.

Your stance also completely ignores the narrative. Why go through ALL that trouble, harp on it being the first-blade, the first-symbiote, his first-creation etc. if it WAS NOT his actual FIRST creation etc? I just don't get it. It's so completely unnecessary.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Postimages glitch (Hence the comic link). Here is the full sequence again. Read it, CAREFULLY:
https://s22.postimg.cc/mbc49cgyl/RCO005_w.jpghttps://s22.postimg.cc/odlses3wd/RCO006.jpg https://s22.postimg.cc/am84le5fh/RCO007.jpg https://s22.postimg.cc/48j1i4stp/RCO008.jpghttps://s22.postimg.cc/4lafodvot/RCO009.jpg



Website glitch? Are you ****ing real?

Hey dumbass, what is that in the third panel?



Now you have conceded the whole argument. Power scaling, huh?

Except it did not. He was defeated by a random god when he had necrosword.

Necrosword couldn't even kill normal Thor in one hit when Gorr actually tried. Forget about killing celestials.

So now you have conceded that the necrosword is the sword which killed celestials and are just going by speculation? Good to know.

Because the first sword was created by the void of creation. Necrosword wasn't.

How are you so dumb? It must be a special gift.

Originally posted by abhilegend

Hey dumbass, what is that in the third panel?

https://s22.postimg.cc/5zb9auhc1/Inked_RCO006_LI.jpg

A fade to black....is the sword being destroyed?

What evidence do you happen to have that the between the second panel and the fourth panel:

- The original weapon was destroyed. AND
- He pulled out an exact replica of the first sword which he calls his first creation..

Originally posted by abhilegend
Because the first sword was created by the void of creation. Necrosword wasn't.

How...how do you just stuff up out of thin air like that?

Considering that Knull specifies that the Necrosword is made from his own "shape" (as opposed to his body), and that he appeared to pull it from his shadow, which is his shape in darkness reflected by the light.

I can't really see the sword he used to slay the Celestial being argue to be anything but the Necrosword tbh.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
A fade to black....is the sword being destroyed?

I meant fourth panel.

Because the shadow sword is literally destroyed in the fourth panel and Knull brought a new sword from his being.

Why would he bring a new sword from his being.

That's just what the comic showed dumbass.

Originally posted by NemeBro
Considering that Knull specifies that the Necrosword is made from his own "shape" (as opposed to his body), and that he appeared to pull it from his shadow, which is his shape in darkness reflected by the light.

I can't really see the sword he used to slay the Celestial being argue to be anything but the Necrosword tbh.
The first sword was pulled from the abyss. Second sword or necrosword was pulled from his own shape.

Both are made distinct.

Just ask Cates to clarify.

If Abhi sticks to his fanfic after that you can just have Bada ban him.

Originally posted by abhilegend
The first sword was pulled from the abyss. Second sword or necrosword was pulled from his own shape.

Both are made distinct.


What did he do with the first one? Did he throw it away because he thought that it was shitty for not cutting the Celestial in two instead of beheading it or what?

Abhi man you're wrong this time bro, just let this one go.

Originally posted by Stoic
What did he do with the first one? Did he throw it away because he thought that it was shitty for not cutting the Celestial in two instead of beheading it or what?

Abhi man you're wrong this time bro, just let this one go.
It was destroyed by the celestials. Originally posted by krisblaze
Just ask Cates to clarify.

If Abhi sticks to his fanfic after that you can just have Bada ban him.
Dat salt.

Originally posted by abhilegend
The first sword was pulled from the abyss. Second sword or necrosword was pulled from his own shape.

Both are made distinct.

https://s22.postimg.cc/4lafodvot/RCO009.jpg

"And all-Black, my first born...was taken from me."

Abhiligend: Second sword.

https://i.amz.mshcdn.com/d5_OpFwvvep_eWFX0dLbhv6CxKo=/fit-in/850x850/https%3A%2F%2Fmashable.com%2Fwp-content%2Fgallery%2Fralph-wiggum-finals-week%2Fralph-wiggum-glue-gif.gif

Originally posted by abhilegend
I meant fourth panel.

Because the shadow sword is literally destroyed in the fourth panel and Knull brought a new sword from his being.

Why would he bring a new sword from his being.

That's just what the comic showed dumbass.

https://s22.postimg.cc/jeya0903l/RCO006.jpg

Ah, I get it, I thought you were a liar. I know realize you're just mentally impaired.

The fourth panel is Knull HAMMERING on the sword inside the Celestial forge.

That is why there is a large "TONG" onomatopoeia, and in the 5th panel, we zoom out to him doing the work.

It's not it being destroyed by the Celestial's. He was banished by them in the second panel

That seems painfully obvious.

It's also pretty odd that they let him live.

Yet there he is, alive and clearly hammering the same blade.

There's not much logic to it. That's because it's Cates.

Weirder still is the fact that he simply pulled the celestial killing sword out of the void.

Again not debating who is right or who is wrong. Just think the celestials made a big brainfart

All I gotta say is how many void/abyss gods could ther be? There's a new one popping up every minute.


I won't be surprised if Sentry's Void is revealed to be connected to this "Abyss" hullabaloo down the road.

Originally posted by -K-M-
Again not debating who is right or who is wrong. Just think the celestials made a big brainfart

Hence why they're fools, as the text says. He's obviously at work in a forge....

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
https://s22.postimg.cc/4lafodvot/RCO009.jpg

"And all-Black, my first born...was taken from me."

Abhiligend: Second sword.

https://i.amz.mshcdn.com/d5_OpFwvvep_eWFX0dLbhv6CxKo=/fit-in/850x850/https%3A%2F%2Fmashable.com%2Fwp-content%2Fgallery%2Fralph-wiggum-finals-week%2Fralph-wiggum-glue-gif.gif
Yes, the first sword he took was from the abyss of the universe. Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
https://s22.postimg.cc/jeya0903l/RCO006.jpg

Ah, I get it, I thought you were a liar. I know realize you're just mentally impaired.

The fourth panel is Knull HAMMERING on the sword inside the Celestial forge.

That is why there is a large "TONG" onomatopoeia, and in the 5th panel, we zoom out to him doing the work.

It's not it being destroyed by the Celestial's. He was banished by them in the second panel
Now I know you're just retarded.

Knull flat out says he pulled the sword out of his own shape while the previous sword was pulled from the abyss.

Why would he specifically say he pulled the sword from his own shape when he already had the sword?

Originally posted by abhilegend
Knull flat out says he pulled the sword out of his own shape

https://s22.postimg.cc/dt2o50ag1/RCO005_w.jpg

*Knull looks down at his own shape/shadow, and pulls out a sword."

Abyss and "his own shape" are not mutually exclusive.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
https://s22.postimg.cc/dt2o50ag1/RCO005_w.jpg

*Knull looks down at his own shape/shadow, and pulls out a sword."

Abyss and "his own shape" are not mutually exclusive.
facepalm

The abyss was alive, it had teeth is just Knull's shadow.

You're just hopeless at this point.

Originally posted by abhilegend
facepalm

The abyss was alive, it had teeth is just Knull's shadow.

You're just hopeless at this point.

Did you even read my post?

Also, clearly the concept of metaphors and symbolism is below your current grasp of English.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Yes, the first sword he took was from the abyss of the universe.
Now I know you're just retarded.

Knull flat out says he pulled the sword out of his own shape while the previous sword was pulled from the abyss.

Why would he specifically say he pulled the sword from his own shape when he already had the sword?

Wasn't Knull from the Abyss? I saw him pull the sword from the shadow of a Celestial's palm. Thanks for making me re-read the issue when I get home from work btw. Do you think that you may be making more out of this than there really is?

For one; There would be no reason for him to make another sword since we see how powerful the first one is.
2ndly; Where did it show the Celestial's destroying the first sword? You aren't talking about Knull tempering the blade when we see the "TONG" visual effect are you? That was Knull hammering the sword in the remaining skull of the Celestial that he had killed with it. He one shot the Cosmic with little to no reprisal.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Did you even read my post?

Also, clearly the concept of metaphors and symbolism is below your current grasp of English.

Knull says that the fools had sent him back to his void, or abyss.

Okay no biggie. Knull the blade, and the severed Celestial's head are banished to the void. Knull then begins tempering that same blade.

Abhi I once did the same thing while reading the bible. Jesus was asked by the demons that possessed Legion to send them into the pigs that were close by instead of out in the world without a host, and I thought that the demons were asking Jesus to allow them to have sex with them.... Serious story that. All the same I asked someone about it and the truth was revealed unto me.

Just ask someone else what they think, and if they go with your theory then there's a good chance that you both may be lost. LOL. Kiddin bro.

Originally posted by Stoic

Abhi I once did the same thing while reading the bible. Jesus was asked by the demons that possessed Legion to send them into the pigs that were close by instead of out in the world without a host, and I thought that the demons were asking Jesus to allow them to have sex with them.... Serious story that. All the same I asked someone about it and the truth was revealed unto me.

Ok... Wut in the phuk is goin in here?!

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Ok... Wut in the phuk is goin in here?!

You can't read? Google it.... LOL! Seriously... You don't get it? It means at times not to lean on your own understanding. You get it now? Don't make me come to your house and explain it to you Celey.

Originally posted by abhilegend
There was no connection given with the earlier weapon and necrosword.

He wasn't defeated by celestials. He was defeated by a random god on the home planet of Gorr.

Looks like the "random god" notion has been put to rest.

Originally posted by TheHulkster
Looks like the "random god" notion has been put to rest.

Can you be more specific?

Originally posted by Stoic
Can you be more specific?

The being Knull was fighting was empowered by the Enigma Force which has been established as what empowers the god of light.

Originally posted by TheHulkster
Looks like the "random god" notion has been put to rest.
Yeah, unipower is just so powerful, eh?