Donna Troy, Starfire vs Namora, Captain Marvel

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Stoic
Fight takes place on Earth no civilians present for hundreds of miles.

Captain Marvel is Carol Danvers in case there's a mix up.

No BFR.

who wins?

zopzop
Is Carol allowed to go Binary? Because that's T2's only hope and even then......

T1 for the majority.

Stoic
Originally posted by zopzop
Is Carol allowed to go Binary? Because that's T2's only hope and even then......

T1 for the majority.

Really? I thought that this was a pretty even match. Are you sure?

zopzop
Originally posted by Stoic
Really? I thought that this was a pretty even match. Are you sure?
Oh yeah. Either one of the ladies on T1 would break either of the ladies on T2. Carol going Binary would be a good fight for either of T1 though. I actually see Carol beating Kori in her Binary form but losing to Donna via lasso cheese.

IMHO it goes like this :
Donna vs Carol (non Binary) - Donna easily
Donna vs Carol (Binary) - Donna via lasso bullsh|t
Donna vs Namora - Donna easily
Starfire vs Namora - Starfire stomps (horrible matchup for Namora)
Starfire vs Carol (non Binary) - Starfire
Starfire vs Carol (Binary) - Carol

So the majority of matchups favor T1.

Stoic
Originally posted by zopzop
Oh yeah. Either one of the ladies on T1 would break either of the ladies on T2. Carol going Binary would be a good fight for either of T1 though. I actually see Carol beating Kori in her Binary form but losing to Donna via lasso cheese.

IMHO it goes like this :
Donna vs Carol (non Binary) - Donna easily
Donna vs Carol (Binary) - Donna via lasso bullsh|t
Donna vs Namora - Donna easily
Starfire vs Namora - Starfire stomps (horrible matchup for Namora)
Starfire vs Carol (non Binary) - Starfire
Starfire vs Carol (Binary) - Carol

So the majority of matchups favor T1.

Has Donna grown that powerful? Should I have put Jane Thor in instead of Carol? And why do you think Namora gets easily stomped? I thought that she was on Namor's level? This is why I asked if you were sure. What makes Starfire superior to Carol?

zopzop
Originally posted by Stoic
Has Donna grown that powerful? Should I have put Jane Thor in instead of Carol? And why do you think Namora gets easily stomped? I thought that she was on Namor's level? This is why I asked if you were sure. What makes Starfire superior to Carol?
Donna is WW with a different lasso and bracers (basically).

Namora would get deep fried by Starfire's starbolts and Starfire is her physical superior. Donna is also Namora's physical superior AND she has unbreakable magical gear. Also, Namora is nowhere near Namor in terms of physical stats.

Starfire has held her own vs CL100 beings, non Binary Carol isn't on that level. Binary is a different story. I see her as Starfire+. But that won't make a difference. Starfire can hold Binary off long enough for Donna to end Namora, then it's two on one vs Binay. Donna lassos Binary. Fight over.

StyleTime
I assume these are the post-crisis versions.

With Carol's strength creep over the years, I could totally see her taking on Starfire now tbh.

Namora has showings against Hulk and such that we could scale strength/durability off of, but lacks in other areas. She has no ranged options. She's the slowest on the field. She has no unconventional methods of attack. She needs to drag the fight to the water. There's a lot of negatives in her corner that point to her being the weakest link. I feel like Donna or Starfire would have to get into a slugfest for Namora to really hang in this, and that isn't likely in a forum match.

Meanwhile, Donna is probably the class of the field, and enjoys a significant speed advantage over Namora. We could debate Carol/Kory, but Namora is almost guaranteed to lose vs either Titan.

Gotta give this to Donna/Kory.

AbelAnderson
Team 1, Namora is the weak link.

Stoic
The crazy thing here is that Namora worked Carol not too long ago by comic standards.

Getting tossed around by a guy who has no strength cap isn't all that bad.

zopzop
Originally posted by Stoic
The crazy thing here is that Namora worked Carol not too long ago by comic standards.

Getting tossed around by a guy who has no strength cap isn't all that bad.
Namora was actually physically overpowering Carol till Carol zapped her. Then it looked like Carol had the advantage. Then Namora got a little water on her, then it was looking very bad for Carol :
https://s8.postimg.cc/67m866ti9/4616624-2422055885-namor.jpg https://s8.postimg.cc/mvdq8pqup/4616625-8099478830-namor.jpg https://s8.postimg.cc/c8jx3aqf5/4616626-9187928392-namor.jpg https://s8.postimg.cc/xw8vd5ixd/4616627-2299493986-namor.jpg https://s8.postimg.cc/pqqtf0pjl/4616628-4408964141-namor.jpg

Stoic
Originally posted by zopzop
Namora was actually physically overpowering Carol till Carol zapped her. Then it looked like Carol had the advantage. Then Namora got a little water on her, then it was looking very bad for Carol :
https://s8.postimg.cc/67m866ti9/4616624-2422055885-namor.jpg https://s8.postimg.cc/mvdq8pqup/4616625-8099478830-namor.jpg https://s8.postimg.cc/c8jx3aqf5/4616626-9187928392-namor.jpg https://s8.postimg.cc/xw8vd5ixd/4616627-2299493986-namor.jpg https://s8.postimg.cc/pqqtf0pjl/4616628-4408964141-namor.jpg

Do you know what title issue that was in?

StyleTime
Agents of Atlas #5

leonidas
i think it would come down to donna and carol, and that would be close but her energy attacks wouldn't much of an advantage against donna who would likely end things up close. dc wins the majority imo.

Stoic
Originally posted by StyleTime
Agents of Atlas #5

Thanks

Zack M
Donna Vs Wonder Woman

https://i.imgur.com/bip0qPp.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/6hpkqAn.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/gmIY2wc.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/nJyfJhm.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/85OrLHS.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/lgaso36.jpg

Sin I AM
She can regen now? Is that new

Zack M
Yeah, her arm went back to normal in the next panel.

StyleTime
Originally posted by Sin I AM
She can regen now? Is that new
Yes, it's relatively new. From her New 52 reboot.

I was using post-crisis Donna though.

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