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Based on actualized Force power.

Excluded: godlike entities, one-time or external amps, double counting characters unless they're really distinct like Vader / Anakin, Taalon and the other Lost Tribe Sith, UnuThul, maybe some others

1. Luke Skywalker
2. Palpatine
3. Knightfall Vader
4. Anakin Skywalker
5. Kyp Durron
6. Yoda
7. Mace Windu
8. Plagueis
9. Valkorion
10. Krayt
11. Caedus
12. Tenebrous
13. Vitiate
14. Nihilus
15. RotJ Vader
16. Tenebrous's Master
17. Starkiller
18. The Outlander
19. Vaylin
20. Revan
21. Dooku
22. Jaina Solo
23. SF Malak
24. Obi Wan
25. Exar Kun

Thoughts?

Originally posted by The Ellimist
Based on actualized Force power.


Originally posted by The Ellimist
5. Kyp Durron
6. Yoda

Well, "actualized Force power" here meant like "who can lift the largest rock", not who would win in a fight or had the deepest knowledge.

1.KF Vader.
2.Valkorion.
3.GM Luke Skywalker.
4.Emperor Palpatine Reborn.
5.Yoda.
6.Exar Kun.
7.Revan.
8.The Outlander.
9.Vaylin.
10.Darth Nihilus.
11.Arcann, redeemed.
12.Mace Windu.
13.Darth Plagueis.
14.Emperor Krayt Reborn.
15.Starkiller.
16.Darth Malak.
17.Darth Vader.
18.Empire's Wrath.
19.Barsen'thor.
20.Darth Nox.

Nothing I'm 100% on.

You have Revan above Nihilus now?

Ant made a concrete argument for SOR Revan having remained close to Vitiate throughout their respective incarnations, as well as just as solid an argument for the Dread Masters having insignificant power next to him. Given that Vitiate as of their battle was a millennia of constant power growth stronger than the incarnation stated to be more powerful than Surik could even imagine. Then yes, my position has changed.

1.GM Luke
2.DE Sidious
3.Valkorion'
4.Yoda
5.Revan
6.Mace Windu
7.Plagueis
8.Exar Kun
9.Caedus
10.The Outlander
11.Vaylin
12.Anakin
12.Starkiller
13.Tenebrous
14.SF Malak
15.Dooku
16.Kyp
17.Arcann
18.Nox
19.Wrath
20.Tenebrous's Master

5-9 are interchangeable tbh.

Anakin and KF Vader are too high. Unless you are counting Zonakin, else Anakin's placement especially is too high.

Originally posted by The Ellimist

22. Jaina Solo
23. SF Malak
The ****?

Originally posted by The Ellimist

8. Plagueis
19. Vaylin

Exar Kun is too high, and he is inferior to the likes of Mace Windu,Revan and Plagueis and Krayt

Also Malak should be below Vader

Originally posted by The Ellimist
23. SF Malak
24. Obi Wan
25. Exar Kun

Thoughts?

Aren't Malak's powers far greater than Kun's? Seems like there'd be many more digits separating their ranks.

Welcome back.

I debunked that Temp, making ILS drop out whilst I was at it.

Originally posted by The Ellimist

9. Valkorion
10. Krayt

Krayt has better feats. Rectify this.

Originally posted by AncientPower
I debunked that Temp, making ILS drop out whilst I was at it.
Wut?

Fake news.

Is abeloth and the ones allowed?

Originally posted by Azronger
Krayt has better feats. Rectify this. vitiate is more powerful than Krayt azronger

1. Luke
2. Kyp
3. Sidious
4. Valkorion
5. Krayt
6. Yoda
7. Vaylin
8. Revan
9. Mace
10. Plagueis
11. The Outlander
12. Jacen
13. Starkiller
14. Vader
15. Arcann
16. Dooku
17. Malgus
18. Maul
19. Wyyrlock III
20. Exar Kun

For the lulz

Originally posted by MythLord
Wut?

He made a Neph tier double-standard whilst he was at it too:
https://comicvine.gamespot.com/forums/gen-discussion-1/cory-herndon-clarifies-stance-on-malak-vs-kun-1970796/?page=1

But the actual debunk is in the last section of this:
https://comicvine.gamespot.com/forums/gen-discussion-1/exar-kun-the-chronological-respect-thread-2018-1970527/

AP, literally no one takes this seriously lol. Stop fooling yourself.

Originally posted by AncientPower
He made a Neph tier double-standard whilst he was at it too:
https://comicvine.gamespot.com/forums/gen-discussion-1/cory-herndon-clarifies-stance-on-malak-vs-kun-1970796/?page=1

But the actual debunk is in the last section of this:
https://comicvine.gamespot.com/forums/gen-discussion-1/exar-kun-the-chronological-respect-thread-2018-1970527/ i dont and never will believe this.

Originally posted by DarthSkywalker0
AP, literally no one takes this seriously lol. Stop fooling yourself.

The only people fooling themselves are the ones who ignore what's literally written in the article. I get you and ILS and the others think Exar Kun is sub-Coleman. But I don't give a singular sliver of shit. I've debunked it, no matter how deep you've got your head in the sand.

Originally posted by AncientPower
The only people fooling themselves are the ones who ignore what's literally written in the article. I get you and ILS and the others think Exar Kun is sub-Coleman. But I don't give a singular sliver of shit. I've debunked it, no matter how deep you've got your head in the sand. exar kun is more powerful than what they make him sound to be, he is definitely over malak

Hold on, how in the tri-state area can Caedus best Vitiate?

Obi-Wan over Exar Kun?! This is... Not good. I may not agree, however, there is no reason to be personal. Good day, the Ellimist. May God bless you (and hopefully enlighten you).

Originally posted by AncientPower
The only people fooling themselves are the ones who ignore what's literally written in the article. I get you and ILS and the others think Exar Kun is sub-Coleman. But I don't give a singular sliver of shit. I've debunked it, no matter how deep you've got your head in the sand.

They are winding you up, they know Exar kun would destroy the guy killed by Jango.

No one actually believes he's Trebor tier, but he's definitely not approaching DE Sidious lmfao.

Yeah, I agree, he's not approaching DE Sheev. He's sub-ROTS Sheev IMO.

He is Kit Fisto level

Ngl If Revan is Close to SWTOR Vitiate, i'd have him at ROTS Sidious Tier.

He is more powerful than revan

Originally posted by The Ellimist
Based on actualized Force power.

Excluded: godlike entities, one-time or external amps, double counting characters unless they're really distinct like Vader / Anakin, Taalon and the other Lost Tribe Sith, UnuThul, maybe some others

1. Luke Skywalker
2. Palpatine
3. Knightfall Vader
4. Anakin Skywalker
5. Kyp Durron
6. Yoda
7. Mace Windu
8. Plagueis
9. Valkorion
10. Krayt
11. Caedus
12. Tenebrous
13. Vitiate
14. Nihilus
15. RotJ Vader
16. Tenebrous's Master
17. Starkiller
18. The Outlander
19. Vaylin
20. Revan
21. Dooku
22. Jaina Solo
23. SF Malak
24. Obi Wan
25. Exar Kun

Thoughts? How on the living hell does this make sense

If it's "who can do the largest damage with Force only"....

1. Luke Skywalker
2. Sidious
3/4. Yoda/Valkorion
5/6. Anakin Skywalker/Nihilus
7. Kyp Durron
8. Plagueis
9. Mace Windu
10. Krayt
11. Caedus
12. Revan
13. Starkiller
14. Tenebrous
15. Outlander