Sue Storm with her force field up!!!

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carver9
Sue already have her force field up and is willing to kill. She and only Sue is going all out here, bringing everything to the table and everyone else is in character. Who can take a majority from her?

Thor
Superman
Kalibak
Mongul
Blue Marvel
Storm
Colossus


Remember, she is out for the kill and is bringing everything that she can muster to win.

StiltmanFTW
We never saw such Sue in action. Not really. Not even in her Malice form. Usually she's just making threats, but that doesn't mean she's capable of such violence.

In theory, she could beat every single character on your list.

Make their optic nerves invisible, blinding them + have several forcefields inside their brains and arteries enlarge to the size of a soccer field.

DarkSaint85
Storm. Lol.

StiltmanFTW
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Storm. Lol.

Via zapping Sue's brain, like she did to Essex?

cdtm
Was she always Susan Storm? Or was this part of a feminist thing against taking a husbands last name?

DarkSaint85
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Via zapping Sue's brain, like she did to Essex?

I just thought it hilarious we have top herald tier guys in durability...
Then a squishy human.

Remember, Storm isn't out to kill, only Sue is.

cdtm
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
We never saw such Sue in action. Not really. Not even in her Malice form. Usually she's just making threats, but that doesn't mean she's capable of such violence.

In theory, she could beat every single character on your list.

Make their optic nerves invisible, blinding them + have several forcefields inside their brains and arteries enlarge to the size of a soccer field.

Characters on Supermans level can survive entire dimensions opening up in their head. Plus, Superman himself can vibrate past the shield like Flash, and operates so fast a single nano-second stretch's to days, so she won't be taking an action for awhile.

StiltmanFTW
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
I just thought it hilarious we have top herald tier guys in durability...
Then a squishy human.

Well, it's a carver thread. It was to be expected.

Same with the thread title.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Remember, Storm isn't out to kill, only Sue is.

True. She only did it to Sinister, because she was 100% sure he'd recover.

cdtm
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
I just thought it hilarious we have top herald tier guys in durability...
Then a squishy human.

Remember, Storm isn't out to kill, only Sue is.

Yep.

Storm can still suffocate her. Sue needs to breath, doesn't she?

carver9
Storm is the Heralds of all Heralds.

StiltmanFTW
Originally posted by carver9
Storm is the Heralds of all Heralds.

Fun fact.

She was the only member of the All-New, All-Different team Wolverine was concerned about.

He considered everyone else easy kills in comparison.

cdtm
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Fun fact.

She was the only member of the All-New, All-Different team Wolverine was concerned about.

He considered everyone else easy kills in comparison.

Who else was on the team?

StiltmanFTW
Originally posted by cdtm
Who else was on the team?

Cyclops, Banshee, Nightcrawler, Sunfire, Colossus and Thunderbird.

All-New, All-Different = the second X-Men team in Marvel's history (excluding the secret team w/ Vulcan, of course).

-Pr-
Something something Logan just wanted himself something chocolate.

StiltmanFTW
Originally posted by -Pr-
Something something Logan just wanted himself something chocolate.

He sure did, but he wasn't the only one craving that chocolate butt.

Keep in mind, Ororo was the only girl on the team for a while. It had to be really hard (pun intended wink ) for her:

https://tinyurl.com/yc53qmkj

Badabing
Pr is drinking today. Goodbye Carver. sad

-Pr-
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
He sure did, but he wasn't the only one craving that chocolate butt.

Keep in mind, Ororo was the only girl on the team for a while. It had to be really hard (pun intended wink ) for her:

https://tinyurl.com/yc53qmkj

True. It must have been a relief when the likes of Psylocke and Dazzler came along.

Originally posted by Badabing
Pr is drinking today. Goodbye Carver. sad

Oh, you have no idea.

StiltmanFTW
Originally posted by Badabing
Pr is drinking today. Goodbye Carver. sad

http://i66.tinypic.com/vqtb3d.png

cdtm
The Fatal Five defeated Brainiac Five's personal force field by simply shaking him around in it.

I assume the same could apply to Sue's basic force field.

DarkSaint85
Originally posted by cdtm
Yep.

Storm can still suffocate her. Sue needs to breath, doesn't she?

She doesn't need to be conscious.

https://i.postimg.cc/MTDtTNG3/842019-iwoutcold.jpg

Match starts, her FF is already up, and she's looking to kill. Normal humans can hold their breath for 2 mins. Storm isn't out to kill. Storm is also a squishy human, with squishy human internals.

And her attacks are fast.

https://i.postimg.cc/sDMSGYBS/blz17.jpg

cdtm
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
She doesn't need to be conscious.

https://i.postimg.cc/MTDtTNG3/842019-iwoutcold.jpg

Match starts, her FF is already up, and she's looking to kill. Normal humans can hold their breath for 2 mins. Storm isn't out to kill. Storm is also a squishy human, with squishy human internals.

Interesting feat, but it also goes against the occasions when she actively needed to reinforce her ff. Perhaps it stays up via residual energy, but can be broken by a powerful enough counter force?


Either way, she'd still be unconscious behind her shield, which counts as a forum win. smile

DarkSaint85
Originally posted by cdtm
She'd still be unconscious behind her shield, which counts as a forum win. smile

Not when she's killed Storm. IW's attacks work at the speed of thought (see my edit).

She can multitask like crazy:

https://i.postimg.cc/VkGV52fB/RCO015.jpg
https://i.postimg.cc/sDJ8CvbL/RCO016.jpg
https://i.postimg.cc/vZHKYGsZ/RCO018.jpg
https://i.postimg.cc/c1Rkfv1J/RCO020.jpg

To recap:
She's performing heart surgery with her FF shaped into surgical tools. WHILST
blocking radiation with her FF. WHILST
pinching veins and blood vessels shut. WHILST
keeping out Moloids. WHILST
forming a barrier for Coulson to land on. WHILST
turning complex machinery components invisible, layer by layer. WHILST
someone is giving her instructions in her ear.

All at once. Forming a bubble in Storm's head (instantly) whilst keeping her out with her FF, is easy to do.

Galan007
Originally posted by Badabing
Pr is drinking today. Goodbye Carver. sad Pretty sure Pr drinks every single day of his life... He's just going a little harder today than normal.

carv and LOB are phucked.thumb up

cdtm
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Not when she's killed Storm. IW's attacks work at the speed of thought (see my edit).

She can multitask like crazy:

https://i.postimg.cc/VkGV52fB/RCO015.jpg
https://i.postimg.cc/sDJ8CvbL/RCO016.jpg
https://i.postimg.cc/vZHKYGsZ/RCO018.jpg
https://i.postimg.cc/c1Rkfv1J/RCO020.jpg

To recap:
She's performing heart surgery with her FF shaped into surgical tools. WHILST
blocking radiation with her FF. WHILST
pinching veins and blood vessels shut. WHILST
keeping out Moloids. WHILST
forming a barrier for Coulson to land on. WHILST
turning complex machinery components invisible, layer by layer. WHILST
someone is giving her instructions in her ear.

All at once. Forming a bubble in Storm's head (instantly) whilst keeping her out with her FF, is easy to do.


According to Stilt, Storm's reacted to Cyke's beams.

What if Storm uses her first action to cover the battlefield in fog, then draw out the oxygen. Sue needs to see to target, doesn't she?

DarkSaint85
Originally posted by cdtm
According to Stilt, Storm's reacted to Cyke's beams.

What if Storm uses her first action to cover the battlefield in fog, then draw out the oxygen. Sue needs to see to target, doesn't she?

No smile

https://i.postimg.cc/MTKVsTWt/O9CXMIu.jpg

And here she does it over a city (or at least, a few buildings):
https://i.postimg.cc/ZnvTWvdD/3977588-ff-586-006.jpg

Just for you, btw.

Taking Danny by surprise, evenly matching him in h2h:
https://i.postimg.cc/ZqNMTw3X/1467639-ff640tt.jpg

He then uses his IF. And she takes it and has fun.
https://i.postimg.cc/QCzHPrpv/5795283-sue-iron-fist-2.jpg

Though tbh, due to the nature of her powers, IW has more feats of 'reacting' to energy attacks than Storm, I wager. Just due to her role on the FF.

cdtm
How did she laugh that off?? eek!

If she reacted and threw up a shield, fine, but the writing makes it look like she tanked the ride.

Mindship
Question: would Sue be able to, say, stab Superman or Thor with a forcefield blade? Because if she can't penetrate skin flesh, why should she be able to expand a bubble inside flesh that's equally tough? Superman (eg) isn't just nigh-invulnerable on the outside but through and through, right?

And if all it takes to subdue Supes or Thor is cut off their oxygen, then why couldn't other energy-field casters do the same? Like Surfer? Or even Magneto? Why can't he create a magnetic field inside his opponent in the same manner as Sue with her forcefields?

StiltmanFTW
Originally posted by cdtm
How did she laugh that off?? eek!

If she reacted and threw up a shield, fine, but the writing makes it look like she tanked the ride.

It was a sparring, but that doesn't mean she wouldn't choose to shield herself in a death or life situation like that. Her powers were functioning properly and so were her reflexes.

Alternatively, we could assume that the unstable molecules of her costume protected her, but that's a stretch.

cdtm
Took a minute, but think I recognize that scan. That's from John Ostranders run on Heroes for Hire, isn't it?



Considering Sue was only in a few scenes, that's not a bad feat. A little bit sloppy on the writing side, imo, considering Danny reflexively using an Iron Fist is kind of out of character, and goes against the mechanics of the power (What, did he reflexively charge it up first? Doesn't that take conscious focus and effort?)

I suppose I could abuse the scan for my own purposes if someone questions whether Danny can use the fist on reflex, though. thumb up

DarkSaint85
Originally posted by Mindship
Question: would Sue be able to, say, stab Superman or Thor with a forcefield blade? Because if she can't penetrate skin flesh, why should she be able to expand a bubble inside flesh that's equally tough? Superman (eg) isn't just nigh-invulnerable on the outside but through and through, right?

And if all it takes to subdue Supes or Thor is cut off their oxygen, then why couldn't other energy-field casters do the same? Like Surfer? Or even Magneto? Why can't he create a magnetic field inside his opponent in the same manner as Sue with her forcefields?

Because your lungs are designed to expand and contract - they're essentially bags.

Would she burst your lungs? No. But neither are you breathing. Your heart isn't going to be able to beat.

Not to mention, it's a question of scale.

https://i.stack.imgur.com/P8HeV.jpg

At such small sizes, tiny blood vessels -whilst still tough - are not as tough as say his pecs.

cdtm
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Because your lungs are designed to expand and contract - they're essentially bags.

Would she burst your lungs? No. But neither are you breathing. Your heart isn't going to be able to beat.

Not to mention, it's a question of scale.

https://i.stack.imgur.com/P8HeV.jpg

At such small sizes, tiny blood vessels -whilst still tough - are not as tough as say his pecs.

thumb up Yep.


Could Sue hurt Superman? Definitely.

Could she kill him? That's the part that's up in the air.

Manchester Black tried TKing his circulatory system. Hurt him, but he survived it and was able to act.

Black Adam had an entire teresect open and close inside his head. Knocked him out, but he survived it.

DarkSaint85
Originally posted by cdtm
Took a minute, but think I recognize that scan. That's from John Ostranders run on Heroes for Hire, isn't it?



Considering Sue was only in a few scenes, that's not a bad feat. A little bit sloppy on the writing side, imo, considering Danny reflexively using an Iron Fist is kind of out of character, and goes against the mechanics of the power (What, did he reflexively charge it up first? Doesn't that take conscious focus and effort?)

I suppose I could abuse the scan for my own purposes if someone questions whether Danny can use the fist on reflex, though. thumb up

Also means he was matched evenly in h2h by Sue Storm, lol.

cdtm
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Also means he was matched evenly in h2h by Sue Storm, lol.


I love Ostrander, but I don't think he really liked Iron Fist.

Deadpool laughs at his slippers. Really hard, and really long Keith Giffen JLA style Blue Beetle and Booster Gold laughter.

Human Torch 1, when confronted about Deadpool even being forced on the team, was told by Danny that as leader needs to know these things, responds with "And who said you were leader?"

There are no less then three scenes in a row, where Cage, Colleen, and Human Torch take turns shouting "YOU DID WHAT??!!!", with Danny's face looking more stressed each time.

In the finale, Danny made a comment about how things are looking up, and Colleen snaps "Danny, don't even think about pretending you planned this!"



Feats wise, plot wise, and character wise, it's grade A Ostrander writing, but you can read between the lines on his opinion of Danny there. smile

celeyhyga17
Originally posted by carver9
Sue already have her force field up and is willing to kill. She and only Sue is going all out here, bringing everything to the table and everyone else is in character. Who can take a majority from her?

Thor
Superman
Kalibak
Mongul
Blue Marvel
Storm
Colossus


Remember, she is out for the kill and is bringing everything that she can muster to win.
Thor bfrs her.

carver9
Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Thor bfrs her.

Is that how he reacts in character? You also know I never have bfr on in my threads. It's a cheap tactic of winning a battle and it tend to be a go to for a group of people on the forum.

cdtm
It also happens to be the best tactic against a character who's main power is hitting things really hard, and sponging damage.

carver9
It's a cheap tactic of getting out of actually debating for the character you are repping.

DarkSaint85
It's an ability that they have though. Oh no, this guy is punching me to death! No... must keep doing what I've been doing for the past ten hours, and not change tactics!!!

In character, most characters don't kick, they punch.

Does that mean they are unable to kick? Don't know how to kick? When facing an opponent, they don't kick at all because in 90% of their fights, they drawn and written as boxers?

celeyhyga17
Originally posted by carver9
Is that how he reacts in character? You also know I never have bfr on in my threads. It's a cheap tactic of winning a battle and it tend to be a go to for a group of people on the forum.
In character? Uhh yeah. He does that to people he does not want to kill. Even villains who don't deserve to live.


Ok so no bfr.
When he realizes she is in murder mode, he puts in extra effort. Smash, smash, lightning, lightning, lightning smash, lightning smash, blah, blah, etc...

I think he can soak up some damage.

Mindship
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Because your lungs are designed to expand and contract - they're essentially bags.

Would she burst your lungs? No. But neither are you breathing. Your heart isn't going to be able to beat.

Not to mention, it's a question of scale.

At such small sizes, tiny blood vessels -whilst still tough - are not as tough as say his pecs. Thanks for the response.

Not sure if I agree, given that Superman (iirc) has withstood reality-warping by force of will, something I would think operates on a much more intimate scale than TK or a forcefield (this, of course, being open to interpretation). Otherwise this opens a whole new avenue for affecting high-herald beings.

Mostly, I tend to see this as writing comics for the most exciting story, rather than character/ability consistency.

In any event, thanks again for some clarification.

cdtm
Superman definitely resisted Emperor Jokers reality warping by force of will. Darkseid, Highfather, Zeus, Ganthet, Phantom Stranger, and Spectre were all neutralized by Joker. Superman was the only one able to even put up a fight.

And being Joker, one can't even use the "villain toying with nemesis" clause, because Joker has no obsession with Superman, as he does with Batman.

h1a8
Originally posted by carver9
Sue already have her force field up and is willing to kill. She and only Sue is going all out here, bringing everything to the table and everyone else is in character. Who can take a majority from her?

Thor
Superman
Kalibak
Mongul
Blue Marvel
Storm
Colossus


Remember, she is out for the kill and is bringing everything that she can muster to win.

The only character with a chance is Superman due to his speed.
The others lose fairly easily as Sue stays invisible with shields up and maneuvers around.

carver9
Originally posted by celeyhyga17
In character? Uhh yeah. He does that to people he does not want to kill. Even villains who don't deserve to live.


Ok so no bfr.
When he realizes she is in murder mode, he puts in extra effort. Smash, smash, lightning, lightning, lightning smash, lightning smash, blah, blah, etc...

I think he can soak up some damage.

In character, Thor have a certain way of engaging, 90% of the time. The very few instances that you have of him fighting any other way is just that, very few.

So while hes smashing and lightning at her shields, her going invisible, etc... what is Sue doing? Is she attacking back? What happens if she turns his eyes invisible and then proceeds at putting a bubble in his brain, expanding it?

Galan007
Your new avatar looks like Hulk is taking a gamma-sized shit. thumb up

zopzop
Originally posted by Galan007
Your new avatar looks like Hulk is taking a gamma-sized shit. thumb up
I thought he was being penetrated @n@lly but what do I know? wink

Galan007
I'm sure you know more than most, friend. smile

leonidas
zing!

zopzop
Originally posted by Galan007
I'm sure you know more than most, friend. smile
https://i.postimg.cc/KzwKvsGc/3woh.gif

celeyhyga17
Ok back on topic.. Gonna hurl if this thread gets any more Zopped.
sick


Originally posted by carver9
In character, Thor have a certain way of engaging, 90% of the time. The very few instances that you have of him fighting any other way is just that, very few.

So while hes smashing and lightning at her shields, her going invisible, etc... what is Sue doing? Is she attacking back? What happens if she turns his eyes invisible and then proceeds at putting a bubble in his brain, expanding it?
His damage soak pretty high. Like ridiculously high even if we avg his showings. Stressful situations or even calm state he has showings that almost can't be explained.

So internal bubbles..

Calm.
He can ingest an ocean.
http://i.imgur.com/vQqU17Sm.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/bQodXwgm.jpg

If it's too unbelievable, he really can.
http://i.imgur.com/vucXM1Om.jpg

Serious.
So, he can take in an incalculable amount of necro goo and keep chugging. Remember this goo kills gods and also eats your insides.
http://i.imgur.com/wmuZV2wm.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/2qSmaPFm.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/JcqZH7Am.jpg

I wonder if Sue can produce a bubble that can equal the volume of an ocean let alone the volume of necro goo, enough to kill all gods that ever existed. Hmm...

carver9
@Celey..

I know of these fts which is the reason I mentioned his "brain" being attacked. Sigh.

Sin I AM
Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Ok back on topic.. Gonna hurl if this thread gets any more Zopped.
sick



His damage soak pretty high. Like ridiculously high even if we avg his showings. Stressful situations or even calm state he has showings that almost can't be explained.

So internal bubbles..

Calm.
He can ingest an ocean.
http://i.imgur.com/vQqU17Sm.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/bQodXwgm.jpg

If it's too unbelievable, he really can.
http://i.imgur.com/vucXM1Om.jpg

Serious.
So, he can take in an incalculable amount of necro goo and keep chugging. Remember this goo kills gods and also eats your insides.
http://i.imgur.com/wmuZV2wm.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/2qSmaPFm.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/JcqZH7Am.jpg

I wonder if Sue can produce a bubble that can equal the volume of an ocean let alone the volume of necro goo, enough to kill all gods that ever existed. Hmm...

Damn you Aaron

celeyhyga17
Originally posted by carver9
@Celey..

I know of these fts which is the reason I mentioned his "brain" being attacked. Sigh.
My dude, do u see that necro goo pouring out of his eye sockets? Hell the Mjolnirs were breaking under the strain ffs.

StiltmanFTW
https://tinyurl.com/y7zksr2l

h1a8
Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Ok back on topic.. Gonna hurl if this thread gets any more Zopped.
sick



His damage soak pretty high. Like ridiculously high even if we avg his showings. Stressful situations or even calm state he has showings that almost can't be explained.

So internal bubbles..

Calm.
He can ingest an ocean.
http://i.imgur.com/vQqU17Sm.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/bQodXwgm.jpg

If it's too unbelievable, he really can.
http://i.imgur.com/vucXM1Om.jpg

Serious.
So, he can take in an incalculable amount of necro goo and keep chugging. Remember this goo kills gods and also eats your insides.
http://i.imgur.com/wmuZV2wm.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/2qSmaPFm.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/JcqZH7Am.jpg

I wonder if Sue can produce a bubble that can equal the volume of an ocean let alone the volume of necro goo, enough to kill all gods that ever existed. Hmm...

Out of over a thousand appearances that adds very little to any weight here. Also prove that Thor ingested a large part of an ocean.
With that said, she can also stab the shit out of Thor.

celeyhyga17
Originally posted by h1a8
Out of over a thousand appearances that adds very little to any weight here. Also prove that Thor ingested a large part of an ocean.
With that said, she can also stab the shit out of Thor.

facepalm

StiltmanFTW
Over nine years of being sodomized by h1.

cdtm
God Butcher had Thor surviving internal organ trauma and such.

Brain bubble would hurt, but there's a trend with heralds surviving serious brain injuries, ala Zod.

I mean, heck, even Iron Fist and Batman were walking around and fighting with a broken back.

Rage.Of.Olympus
Originally posted by cdtm
God Butcher had Thor surviving internal organ trauma and such.

https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/vsbattles/images/3/3c/Thor_glass_liver.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20171020062900
https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/126716/4244694-thor_malekith_3.j

Rage.Of.Olympus
https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/126716/4244734-thor+surtur+3.jpg
https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_medium/12/126716/4244735-thor+surtur+4.jpg
https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_medium/12/126716/4244736-thor+surtur.jpg

Thor survived and fought his way through Surtur's essence (Doesn't get mentioned much, but a ridiculous feat when examined) submerged for an extended period of time.

-Pr-
I miss that Thor.

StiltmanFTW
Thanks, Rage http://images.killermovies.com/forums/icons/v2/icon12.gif

http://i67.tinypic.com/2ivk38x.png

Rage.Of.Olympus
For?

NemeBro
"Haha, the Surtur fish bit Thor's ankle haha, this will show those Thorbags. XD"

StiltmanFTW
Originally posted by NemeBro
"Haha, the Surtur fish bit Thor's ankle haha, this will show those Thorbags. XD"

https://tinyurl.com/y9ov8b8w

Rage.Of.Olympus

StiltmanFTW
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Oh! I mean that could also be an expression of anger.

haermm

Never change, R.

Philosophía
I laughed out loud.

abhilegend

Raptor22
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
haermm

Never change, R. i normally dont chime in but im a little disapointed too.

In the scans celey posted, In the bottom 2 panals of the first scan of thor drinking the ocean, it looks lie hes sucking off an elephant and choking on his load as the narration talks about Thor's lustful thirst. Hell replace the horn with a bbc and ive seen that movie a thousand times.

And u choose to ignore that and focus on the fish panal. I expected better.

One Big Mob
I don't really like blowjob videos. I usually skip those parts in porn.

And if people like it because they're pretending it's their dick, then I don't understand the mentality for beating off to bbc blowjob videos. That's not my color.

celeyhyga17
laughing out loud
Sig worthy.

"I... Who have the lustiest thirst in all Asgard..."
https://i.imgur.com/vQqU17S.jpg

ghostman
****ing lol @ that second last panel

Rage.Of.Olympus
laughing out loud

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
haermm

Never change, R.

Does it really matter? The real issue is the environment, not the fish demon chomping on his balls.

Really weak attempt Stilt.

Philosophía
https://i.imgur.com/4AZGBZH.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/P7MM08A.png

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/83/09/fd/8309fda65f31a9e2125bf0307d14dbc1.jpg

abhilegend
Originally posted by celeyhyga17
laughing out loud
Sig worthy.

"I... Who have the lustiest thirst in all Asgard..."
https://i.imgur.com/vQqU17S.jpg
LMAO

celeyhyga17
Btw he was narrating all this to a group of boys.

"Oh btw boys, I have the lustiest lips in all Asgard"...

sad

cdtm
confused

DarkSaint85
Tbf, Thor has OCD.

leonidas
brilliant stuff gents. thumb up

and probably only storm dies.

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