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DC Bricks

Superman
Black Adam (pre)
Captain Marvel (pre)
Wonder Woman

vs

Silver Surfer
Quasar
Beta Ray Bill
Blue Marvel

Bfr is off. Who's taking this

WW tips the scales.

Surfer tips the scales

No BFR tips the scales.

Quasar solos.

Diana likely solos.

SUPERMAN SOLOS!!!

Team marvel prevails in a stomp.

Team DC wins, with ease.

The DC team wins. It's not going to be easy for them, but they take it at the end of the day.

Originally posted by deathslash
The DC team wins. It's not going to be easy for them, but they take it at the end of the day.

Agreed. It's going to be a hard fought stomp. A long, drawn out affair of some attoseconds.

Too many A-listers on team DC vs too many B-listers on team Marvel

Yeah. Except peak Quasar solos.
None of the would even b able to break the constructs if peak Quasar.
If Thanos, Hulk, Thor and Drax with Power Gem, at the same time, could not do it, none of the DC characters is going to do it by themselves.
And that is the lowest rung of his powers.
Now, if u r counting the Anihilus fiasco, where Quasar was used to show that the stupid bug was no longer a B lister, than I would agree with u.

Current Quasar dies horribly. Nothing he can do to Witchmark Diana.

Originally posted by Horrificus
Yeah. Except peak Quasar solos.
None of the would even b able to break the constructs if peak Quasar.
If Thanos, Hulk, Thor and Drax with Power Gem, at the same time, could not do it, none of the DC characters is going to do it by themselves.
And that is the lowest rung of his powers.
Now, if u r counting the Anihilus fiasco, where Quasar was used to show that the stupid bug was no longer a B lister, than I would agree with u.
Even in Quasar series, his shields have been broken too many times.

He is GL lite at best.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Even in Quasar series, his shields have been broken too many times.

He is GL lite at best. It's unfortunate that there have been so many blatantly different stages of ability in the Quasar character. But, that is just the way it is. This is similar to many other characters, so it is acceptable to differentiate between these stages when debating.
Quasar, at his most able and powerful, while only wielding the powers specific to THAT character, was horrendously powerful. As I stated, his shields were not being broken, by the heaviest of hitters. And much like classic Thor, Surfer or Dr. Strange, Quasar was making up new ways to use his power all the time, based on need.
He was able to handle mega bricks, highest-level energy manipulators and groups, with no trouble at all.
During this stage of the character he had managed to overcome the previous frailty of his light constructs.

Originally posted by Horrificus
It's unfortunate that there have been so many blatantly different stages of ability in the Quasar character. But, that is just the way it is. This is similar to many other characters, so it is acceptable to differentiate between these stages when debating.
Quasar, at his most able and powerful, while only wielding the powers specific to THAT character, was horrendously powerful. As I stated, his shields were not being broken, by the heaviest of hitters. And much like classic Thor, Surfer or Dr. Strange, Quasar was making up new ways to use his power all the time, based on need.
He was able to handle mega bricks, highest-level energy manipulators and groups, with no trouble at all.
During this stage of the character he had managed to overcome the previous frailty of his light constructs.

Black Adam broke Spectre's body, he Psycho-crush's any constructs.

Originally posted by cdtm
Black Adam broke Spectre's body, he Psycho-crush's any constructs.

You're one of our oldest members and you still debate like this.

Originally posted by carver9
You're one of our oldest members and you still debate like this.

If the great Carver says this....

I must be doing something right.

surfer and quasar need better teammate to contend with the dc team

Originally posted by carver9
You're one of our oldest members and you still debate like this. https://www.ikea.com/us/en/images/products/ung-drill-mirror-black__0129203_PE283223_S4.JPG

Has to cast a reflection for that to work, Philo.

Originally posted by Horrificus
It's unfortunate that there have been so many blatantly different stages of ability in the Quasar character. But, that is just the way it is. This is similar to many other characters, so it is acceptable to differentiate between these stages when debating.
Quasar, at his most able and powerful, while only wielding the powers specific to THAT character, was horrendously powerful. As I stated, his shields were not being broken, by the heaviest of hitters. And much like classic Thor, Surfer or Dr. Strange, Quasar was making up new ways to use his power all the time, based on need.
He was able to handle mega bricks, highest-level energy manipulators and groups, with no trouble at all.
During this stage of the character he had managed to overcome the previous frailty of his light constructs.


Even at the end of the series (Starblast), he was getting his ass handed to him by Gladiator and had to be saved by Black Bolt.

One feat in Infinity War doesn't means a lot here.

Especially considering most of these characters can solo the group from Quasars "feat". As we all know, Superman blitz's at attoseconds, and even Wonder Woman has handled Gods who can crush Thanos without trying (The overrated Thanos, who even Thor should be able to beat on feats. His skin isn't as tough as Celestial armor.)

Team DC is just too powerful.

Originally posted by carver9
You're one of our oldest members and you still debate like this.

Originally posted by quanchi112


Yes, that statement belongs in your post instead of mine.

Originally posted by cdtm
Yes, that statement belongs in your post instead of mine. Have you ever taken your skills to a Battlezone? Nah, you do not ever make a case or have confidence in yourself.

Originally posted by cdtm
Especially considering most of these characters can solo the group from Quasars "feat". As we all know, Superman blitz's at attoseconds, and even Wonder Woman has handled Gods who can crush Thanos without trying (The overrated Thanos, who even Thor should be able to beat on feats. His skin isn't as tough as Celestial armor.)

Team DC is just too powerful. Ok. Well, I'm not going near the WW or Supes feats "thing" because I dont have a spare 6 months to research, complete a study and submit a white paper for each.
And, I agree on Thanos being overrated.
So, I will just sit over here and watch.

Very close tbh. The Superman factor swings it.

Originally posted by Horrificus
Ok. Well, I'm not going near the WW or Supes feats "thing" because I dont have a spare 6 months to research, complete a study and submit a white paper for each.
And, I agree on Thanos being overrated.
So, I will just sit over here and watch.



As appealing as debating a lunatic in an asylum sounds, I'm trying to hold onto some small scrap of sanity. Debating Carver, or someone almost as bad *wink* would put me over that edge..

Originally posted by cdtm
As appealing as debating a lunatic in an asylum sounds, I'm trying to hold onto some small scrap of sanity. Debating Carver, or someone almost as bad *wink* would put me over that edge.. no problem. Maybe another time, when I'm really, really drunk. I will come back to this and share.

That was actually supposed to be aimed at Quanchi.

Originally posted by One Big Mob
What if Carver was a vampire that fed of CHAOS though? I just remembered interview with a vampire, then I also remembered that quanchi has a creepy obsession with Brad Pitt.

Are they the vampric dynamic duo?

https://a.wattpad.com/cover/26730477-352-k150240.jpg

Who'd be the little girl/Kirsten Dunst, then, Sin?

Originally posted by Damborgson
Too many A-listers on team DC vs too many B-listers on team Marvel

Originally posted by cdtm
That was actually supposed to be aimed at Quanchi. damn. I deflected your attack.

Originally posted by cdtm
As appealing as debating a lunatic in an asylum sounds, I'm trying to hold onto some small scrap of sanity. Debating Carver, or someone almost as bad *wink* would put me over that edge.. So no real counter as you have no confidence in your skills. All bark no bite.

Creepy for sure.

Originally posted by Senor Cage
Creepy for sure.

https://media.giphy.com/media/cfOHUiDyRuWWI/giphy.gif

Yikes!

https://media.giphy.com/media/kTmAr3j50roVa/giphy.gif

VoWMTUfEg9Y

Originally posted by One Big Mob
Carver does lust for Sin, but maybe LoB works better?

IF YOU WEREN'T AN EMASCIATED SHELL OF A MAN I WOULD BACKHAND YOU FOR YOUR INSOLENCE!!!

Originally posted by LordofBrooklyn
IF YOU WEREN'T AN EMASCIATED SHELL OF A MAN I WOULD BACKHAND YOU FOR YOUR INSOLENCE!!!

MUI LoB.

Originally posted by LordofBrooklyn
IF YOU WEREN'T AN EMASCIATED SHELL OF A MAN I WOULD BACKHAND YOU FOR YOUR INSOLENCE!!! Literally all bark and no bite, you old burnt hot dog you.

Originally posted by One Big Mob
Literally all bark and no bite, you old burnt hot dog you.


THE MERE BREEZE FROM MY FIST WOULD SNAP 3 OF YOUR VETERBRAE LIKE ROTTEN TWIGS!!!

I would go to jail for animal abuse if I hit you once. I'd put your snout right through your skull and then panic because you stopped moving. I just hope there's not a crowd around if you ever come yapping at me in real life.

Superman alone can solo this team at least 4/10 let alone with Adam and Diana.

Originally posted by One Big Mob
Literally all bark and no bite, you old burnt hot dog you.

Clarify that burnt comment.

Originally posted by panthergod
Clarify that burnt comment. No

Quasar is IMO Marvel's weak link here. The rest of the characters are typically on the same level: elite top tier. As such, they are all often close to 50/50 vs each other and none of them are often presented as being decisively more powerful than any of the others (Superman sometimes excepted, but I'll deal with him in a moment). Quasar at peak experience is not a huge weak link, but he has been decisively overpowered or been explicitly presented as inferior to a number of elite top tiers from time to time, even if not by a wide margin.

On the DC side, Superman is a big X Factor because he is much more likely to jump a half-step to even a full step above this elite top tier than any of the other characters. Sure, every hero can go all out and have peak performance moments. However, this dynamic is much more pronounced with Superman.

So in a straight fight, the DC team has a decent but substantial edge. However, should weakness exploitation and exotic uses of powers come into play (unlikely but it might happen), then things could get more interesting. Superman can be drained by Quasar and/or Surfer in theory. Super,man is also theoretically vulnerable to Bill's magic. On the other hand, Quasar also has issues with magic. That said, since we are using earlier versions of Shazam and Black Adam, they are less likely to use magic lightning than current versions.

Based on comic conventions, speed is unlikely to play a major role in this fight.

Originally posted by panthergod
Superman alone can solo this team at least 4/10 let alone with Adam and Diana. Nahhhhhh.

Originally posted by panthergod
Superman alone can solo this team at least 4/10 let alone with Adam and Diana. Nope and I am a big Superman fan.

Is this the classic Wendell Vaughn Quasar or the inexperienced Avril Kincaid Quasar? If it's the latter, the Marvel side loses.

Originally posted by Pillow Biter
Quasar is IMO Marvel's weak link here. The rest of the characters are typically on the same level: elite top tier. As such, they are all often close to 50/50 vs each other and none of them are often presented as being decisively more powerful than any of the others (Superman sometimes excepted, but I'll deal with him in a moment). Quasar at peak experience is not a huge weak link, but he has been decisively overpowered or been explicitly presented as inferior to a number of elite top tiers from time to time, even if not by a wide margin.

On the DC side, Superman is a big X Factor because he is much more likely to jump a half-step to even a full step above this elite top tier than any of the other characters. Sure, every hero can go all out and have peak performance moments. However, this dynamic is much more pronounced with Superman.

So in a straight fight, the DC team has a decent but substantial edge. However, should weakness exploitation and exotic uses of powers come into play (unlikely but it might happen), then things could get more interesting. Superman can be drained by Quasar and/or Surfer in theory. Super,man is also theoretically vulnerable to Bill's magic. On the other hand, Quasar also has issues with magic. That said, since we are using earlier versions of Shazam and Black Adam, they are less likely to use magic lightning than current versions.

Based on comic conventions, speed is unlikely to play a major role in this fight.
You will need to give examples of Peak Quasar being "decisively overpowered or been explicitly presented as inferior to a number of elite top tiers from time to time, even if not by a wide margin." .

For now... Horrificus Doubles Down, baby!!!
Wooooooo Hoooooooo!!!!!

Originally posted by One Big Mob
No

that's what I thought.

I called him burnt because that is generally black, or blackened, and LoB is believed to be black, or an offshoot of black. I also used it as a double meaning because LoB seemed to be burnt out both via his brain, and his insults.

That was probably the least confusing part of my post tbh. I don't know why you had trouble with it tbh.

LoB is believed to be a dog dressed up as people because he's yappy like a little lapdog with nothing to show for it.

Hot Dog was interchangable with Dog even though it's not really dog meat unless you're in China, but even then it's a good mix of dog and cat, and you generally end up charring or "burning" hot dogs if you put them on the grill for too long. They get a blackened shell on them, and depending on the degree, they're still edible. You should try one of these "burnt hot dogs" one day if you haven't. Some people prefer them that way.

I don't.

Originally posted by Horrificus
You will need to give examples of Peak Quasar being "decisively overpowered or been explicitly presented as inferior to a number of elite top tiers from time to time, even if not by a wide margin." .

For now... Horrificus Doubles Down, baby!!!
Wooooooo Hoooooooo!!!!!

Surfer flies at top speed through an asteroid field or some such, and Quasar comments having trouble (Something Hal did without computer help on day one.)