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AlbertoJohnAvil
Is Battlezone KMC's version of CAVS that happen on comicvine? and yes I'm from comicvine (obvs) If so, I'm willing to use Worthy Thor (no unworthy) against anybody that's willing to use any of the main members in the Justice League in single combat. ex. Diana, J'onn Jonzz, Superman, Aqauaman etc

Anybody that'll judge is fine with me

This is all in fun, nothing too serious.

Damborgson
What does CAV stand for again ? I know I did those once upon a time...

StiltmanFTW
Cock Anus Vagina

Welcome to KMC, Alberto.

AlbertoJohnAvil
Originally posted by Damborgson
What does CAV stand for again ? I know I did those once upon a time...

Challenge a Viner.

DarkSaint85
What are the stipulations? Everything and anything goes?

abhilegend
Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
Is Battlezone KMC's version of CAVS that happen on comicvine? and yes I'm from comicvine (obvs) If so, I'm willing to use Worthy Thor (no unworthy) against anybody that's willing to use any of the main members in the Justice League in single combat. ex. Diana, J'onn Jonzz, Superman, Aqauaman etc

Anybody that'll judge is fine with me

This is all in fun, nothing too serious.
I'll bite, Superboy/Supergirl (pre Flashpoint). You pick whatever you want to chose.

StiltmanFTW

AlbertoJohnAvil
Yeah.

Standard gear
no outside assistance
no prep, random encounter
no bfr
no time travel
no amps
Fundamental (energy) Equalization
win by KO/death/incapacitation
3 Out of Tier feats result in a DQ

AlbertoJohnAvil
Originally posted by abhilegend
I'll bite, Superboy/Supergirl (pre Flashpoint). You pick whatever you want to chose.

Huh?

it's singles combat.

ex

the Main members will be
Supes
WW
GL
Hawkgirl
Flash
MMH


But are you sure you want to do it your way? An 2v2 Marvel Vs DC would be interesting, I'm fine with it if you are. I'll go Marvel btw. whose your 2 from DC?

abhilegend
Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
Huh?

it's singles combat.

ex

the Main members will be
Supes
WW
GL
Hawkgirl
Flash
MMH


But are you sure you want to do it your way? An 2v2 Marvel Vs DC would be interesting, I'm fine with it if you are. I'll go Marvel btw. whose your 2 from DC?
No, either Superboy or Supergirl. Unworthy Thor vs any of the JL member except Aquaman and Cyborg is going to be a slaughter.

So either Superboy or Supergirl. Or maybe Eradicator.

AlbertoJohnAvil
Originally posted by abhilegend
No, either Superboy or Supergirl. Unworthy Thor vs any of the JL member except Aquaman and Cyborg is going to be a slaughter.

So either Superboy or Supergirl. Or maybe Eradicator.

Alright, who's your pick?

abhilegend
Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
Alright, who's your pick?
Alright, let's go with Supergirl. Two posts each?

Edit: Are you using Worthy Thor or Unworthy Thor? Because then I'll have to change my character as I thought it was unworthy Thor.

AlbertoJohnAvil
Originally posted by abhilegend
Alright, let's go with Supergirl. Two posts each?

Supergirl is a main member?? I don't recall..

abhilegend
Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
Supergirl is a main member?? I don't recall..
Supergirl has been a justice league member before.

AlbertoJohnAvil
Originally posted by abhilegend
Supergirl has been a justice league member before.

But she isn't a main member..

AlbertoJohnAvil
MMH
Flash
Superman
GL
Hawkgirl
WW

Are the main members

And Batman

abhilegend
Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
But she isn't a main member..
OK, let's go with Hal Jordan. Two posts each?

AlbertoJohnAvil
Originally posted by abhilegend
OK, let's go with Hal Jordan. Two posts each?

Ok.

and Huh... what do you mean by two posts each? .We having a Full on Debate

AlbertoJohnAvil
And the rules are


Standard gear
no outside assistance
no prep, random encounter
no bfr
no time travel
no amps
Fundamental (energy) Equalization
win by KO/death/incapacitation
3 Out of Tier feats result in a DQ

abhilegend
Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
Ok.

and Huh... what do you mean by two posts each? .We having a Full on Debate Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
And the rules are


Standard gear
no outside assistance
no prep, random encounter
no bfr
no time travel
no amps
Fundamental (energy) Equalization
win by KO/death/incapacitation
3 Out of Tier feats result in a DQ
Full on debate? I'm sorry but I don't have time for a full on battlezone or CAV as you call it.

Maybe at a later date?

AlbertoJohnAvil
Originally posted by abhilegend
Full on debate? I'm sorry but I don't have time for a full on battlezone or CAV as you call it.

Maybe at a later date?

sure, we can do full but no time limit, fine with you?

One Big Mob
I hate the CaV term. I'm pretty sure BZ has been around longer than that but I can't be sure of it

AlbertoJohnAvil
Location:indestructable clone of earth
I startat north pole
You starts at south pole
Tier:none
Stips:none

Standard gear,
no outside assistance,
no prep, random encounter,
no bfr,
no time travel,
no amps,
Fundamental (energy) Equalization,
win by KO/death/incapacitation
3 Out of Tier feats result in a DQ

One Big Mob
Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
3 Out of Tier feats result in a DQ Wait what
Do you also use this to try and explain speed?

carver9
Want ABHI to use Superman. This is an interesting debate. Can't wait to see it.

DarkSaint85
Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
Location:indestructable clone of earth
I startat north pole
You starts at south pole
Tier:none
Stips:none

Standard gear,
no outside assistance,
no prep, random encounter,
no bfr,
no time travel,
no amps,
Fundamental (energy) Equalization,
win by KO/death/incapacitation
3 Out of Tier feats result in a DQ

Fundamental equalisation?

This is quite strange for no stips lol.

AlbertoJohnAvil
Originally posted by One Big Mob
Wait what
Do you also use this to try and explain speed?

That isn't valid for us, Their isn't a tier

carver9
All fts should be usable though. Dont limit the characters. Just make sure the fts are valid.

AlbertoJohnAvil
These are all basic rules
we're having a non tier match
Most wont effect us

DarkSaint85
Basic rules that don't apply....on KMC, Comicvine rules don't matter.

What does equalisation of energy mean, btw?

AlbertoJohnAvil
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Basic rules that don't apply....on KMC, Comicvine rules don't matter.

What does equalisation of energy mean, btw?


Basically if a verse uses chakra which is specific to that verse it becomes
Chakra,iron fist ect ect = Life energy
-Green lantern energy,power cosmic ect ect = cosmic energy

StiltmanFTW
You come here, don't even say hello and expect us to play by your rules.

Give me one good reason we shouldn't just lock you in the cell with Mindset.

https://tinyurl.com/yakzhxlb

Philosophía
Alberto...

https://media1.tenor.com/images/8ad4d2ed04f3094456f12d099251727e/tenor.gif

One Big Mob
*Comicvine thread*
"KMC'ers are a bunch of cowards!"

Damborgson
Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
These are all basic rules
we're having a non tier match
Most wont effect us

You should read up on the rules before you apply CV rules to KMC.

Stilt isnt kidding about Mindset, he'll open a new hole in you.

AlbertoJohnAvil
Originally posted by Damborgson
You should read up on the rules before you apply CV rules to KMC.

Stilt isnt kidding about Mindset, he'll open a new hole in you.

Oh that's just basic rules, but I'll remove the equlization if opponent doesn't want it

AlbertoJohnAvil
Anybody's free to judge and or post the battle between us.

DarkSaint85
Interesting, though. Three out of tier feats means a DQ? how does one determine that?

AlbertoJohnAvil
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Interesting, though. Three out of tier feats means a DQ? how does one determine that?

There wont be any oot for this match
Its not tiered

AlbertoJohnAvil
Will you be willing to post the debate and or judge? doesn't matter really, I'll start first. Abhi can go after

StiltmanFTW
Who are you on CV?

https://tinyurl.com/y8c4q9w6

AlbertoJohnAvil
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Who are you on CV?

https://tinyurl.com/y8c4q9w6

acidskull

Damborgson
Theacidskull? laughing out loud

I made a video for you once.

Damborgson
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vpypNs6NZzQ

thumb up

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Anyways, I'll take you on bro.

Give me Wonder Woman.

One Big Mob
Did you make a video about a debate using pics of the Hulk fight with Disturbed playing over it?

Bro

Damborgson
Pretty metal huh?

I was 17 at the time, I refuse to be held responsible for anything posted/said on YouTube pre-2016.

Except the good stuff.

AlbertoJohnAvil
Originally posted by Damborgson
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vpypNs6NZzQ

thumb up

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Anyways, I'll take you on bro.

Give me Wonder Woman.

absolutely. would love to. Just waiting on Abhilegend decision if he wants to still continue with no time limit. If not, we can start tomorrow. New 52 or Pre Flashpoint Diana?

Damborgson
Do you mind if I use an amalgam? It would make things simpler for me.

AlbertoJohnAvil
Originally posted by Damborgson
Do you mind if I use an amalgam? It would make things simpler for me.

Pre flashpoint+new 52?

Damborgson
Yep thumb up

abhilegend
Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
absolutely. would love to. Just waiting on Abhilegend decision if he wants to still continue with no time limit. If not, we can start tomorrow. New 52 or Pre Flashpoint Diana?
No, I'm out of this.

StiltmanFTW
Originally posted by Damborgson
Pretty metal huh?

I was 17 at the time, I refuse to be held responsible for anything posted/said on YouTube pre-2016.

Except the good stuff.

It's okay, bro.

https://tinyurl.com/ycr559of

AlbertoJohnAvil
Originally posted by Damborgson
Yep thumb up

cool, you go first?

Damborgson
Could we get a host please ?

Darksaint ??

psycho gundam
Originally posted by Damborgson
Pretty metal huh?

I was 17 at the time, I refuse to be held responsible for anything posted/said on YouTube pre-2016.

Except the good stuff. Still waiting for my money from that golden era

DarkSaint85
Originally posted by Damborgson
Could we get a host please ?

Darksaint ??

I will host.

Guys, send your opening posts to me please. When I get them both, I will open the BZ thread.

AlbertoJohnAvil with Worthy Thor, against Dambo with composite WW.

Standard gear
no outside assistance
no prep, random encounter
no bfr
no time travel
no amps
Win by death/KO/incapacitation
Location:indestructable clone of earth
Thor is at the North Pole.
WW is at the South.

Are we all OK with these rules? If yes, let he who dies, die well.

Edit: Judges, please? Albert is new here, let's show him we can be fair and impartial, please!

Philosophía
I can judge, if they're ok with it.

Damborgson
Of course thumb up

DarkSaint85
OK. PM them to me. When's a good deadline? Let's say....Thurs?

AlbertoJohnAvil
Can we start on tuesday?

AlbertoJohnAvil
oops *friday.
need to gather scans. I'm on mobile

AlbertoJohnAvil
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
I will host.

Guys, send your opening posts to me please. When I get them both, I will open the BZ thread.

AlbertoJohnAvil with Worthy Thor, against Dambo with composite WW.

Standard gear
no outside assistance
no prep, random encounter
no bfr
no time travel
no amps
Win by death/KO/incapacitation
Location:indestructable clone of earth
Thor is at the North Pole.
WW is at the South.

Are we all OK with these rules? If yes, let he who dies, die well.

Edit: Judges, please? Albert is new here, let's show him we can be fair and impartial, please!

yeah

DarkSaint85
Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
oops *friday.
need to gather scans. I'm on mobile

Sure.

Way it works here, is that when you have done your writeup, you send it to me in a PM.

Dambo will do the same. When I have both, I open a thread and post both, one after the other. Then you two will go at it for a set number of posts each (3? 5?). One after the other.

It is generally frowned upon to bring a brand new argument in on the last post ('And here, WW does XYZ!'), knowing your opponent cannot argue against it.

At the end, you both will step back and let the judges give their judgments.

One Big Mob
In CaVs they have one guy open and it follows a linear pattern if you can imagine where the second guy plans his entire strategy around the first guy's post. The concept is absolutely bananas to me.

DarkSaint85
That's so weird....poker games must be a riot round there.

Smurph
I can judge

XLR87T3
I was really hoping to see Abhi debate :'(

staxamillion
I can judge as well

Damborgson
So Smurph, Philo and Stax, that should do just fine thumb up

DarkSaint85
Perfect.

OPs in by Friday, send them to me in PMs.

I'll then open the thread.

After that, how many posts will each side have? 3? 5?

Damborgson
3 should be fine. Opener, rebuttal, closer.

XLR87T3
Wait, Worthy Thor has relativistic and FTL speed feats without scaling from other characters. Wonder Woman should be speedblitzed according to Darksaint logic

DarkSaint85
smile not the time or place, please stop trolling.

Smurph
Originally posted by XLR87T3
Wait, Worthy Thor has relativistic and FTL speed feats without scaling from other characters. Wonder Woman should be speedblitzed according to Darksaint logic Nah, this convinced me, fight over.

AlbertoJohnAvil
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Sure.

Way it works here, is that when you have done your writeup, you send it to me in a PM.

Dambo will do the same. When I have both, I open a thread and post both, one after the other. Then you two will go at it for a set number of posts each (3? 5?). One after the other.

It is generally frowned upon to bring a brand new argument in on the last post ('And here, WW does XYZ!'), knowing your opponent cannot argue against it.

At the end, you both will step back and let the judges give their judgments.

Nah, I rather post it. Damb can post his opener today. not a problem

Damborgson
Are you not sure how to send PM's? Or why the preference Acid ?

AlbertoJohnAvil
Originally posted by Damborgson
Are you not sure how to send PM's? Or why the preference Acid ?

http://prntscr.com/m8okss

Damborgson
Okay so then why not send your opener to Darksaint my friend?

DarkSaint85
Yeah no.

Both sides send openers to me, and I'll post them. If worried that i, for whatever reason, edit them, it will be easy to prove - just show the original PM against what I posted.

You can't read Dambo's post then quickly add a sentence or two refuting it.

And no, I'm not changing the battlefield location either to Unicron.

Edit : with that said, I've got Alberto's OP.

AlbertoJohnAvil
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Yeah no.

Both sides send openers to me, and I'll post them. If worried that i, for whatever reason, edit them, it will be easy to prove - just show the original PM against what I posted.

You can't read Dambo's post then quickly add a sentence or two refuting it.

And no, I'm not changing the battlefield location either to Unicron.

sent op

DarkSaint85
thumb up

Just awaiting Dambo's, then depending on the time there might be a slight delay, but I'll open the thread.

AlbertoJohnAvil
cool. Hopefully it's posted today?

DarkSaint85
Yeah. I haven't heard a peep.....

Damborgson
Yeah of course ! I'll have it in in a few hours smile

Damborgson
All sent by the way

DarkSaint85
Thankee-sai

DarkSaint85
All up. Have at thee, by Hera!

AlbertoJohnAvil
....Yeah I don't really got nothing for Diana's speed. took me awhile but even if I brought him holding back against mortals he'd still be at a massive disadvantage. ex Flash, (should've rethought this)
etc etc it's kinda difficult to make a case for Thor's history against speedsters to be honest. apologies Damb.

I don't mind debating with Thor still, If anybody's willing to pick any JL member. I'll start immediately if agreement to it. Yes you can pick the Atom too stick out tongue

though I would ask if you could go same day I go on after I send my opener. just to hurry the debate up

DarkSaint85
I'll do it.

I'll pick Flash.

Dambo, can you host?

AlbertoJohnAvil
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
I'll do it.

I'll pick Flash.

Dambo, can you host?

cool, are you capable of starting today? I could post an opener soon

and Wally im presuming right?

Damborgson
What? laughing out loud

Philosophía
"Wonder Woman vs Thor"

"Ok"

*opening posts*

"I can't counter the speed"

"What about Wally vs Thor?"

"Ok!"

https://media1.tenor.com/images/c6751420948f361d6c80847849b2590e/tenor.gif

AlbertoJohnAvil
Wally doesn't have as much options to put down Thor like Diana does. lacks both dc and durability. speed is really much it but how long until Thor *eventually* catch him is the question

Philosophía
Well, what can I say, good luck. thumb up

AlbertoJohnAvil
Thanks!

Damborgson
Oh you were serious ?

Sure I'll host, why not lol.

DarkSaint85
Not gonna send my post in today because I wasn't planning on, but sure. Deadline of Mon/Tues? Stips?

AlbertoJohnAvil
cool, 3 rounds. are you able to send it tomorrow morning? and uhhh just normal location, with same rules. nothing too fancy

DarkSaint85
Nah. Let's go balls to the wall. Full powers, all abilities on.

AlbertoJohnAvil
liking the sound of that

full battlezone?

DarkSaint85
What do you understand when you say full BZ?

For me it means all canon showings are on, all abilities on, no outside assistance. Three posts each, same battle locale, pm the host with OPs.

Highly doubtful I can get it in tomorrow morning, as I hadn't planned on doing it until today lol.

AlbertoJohnAvil
no crossovers, no bfrs, no amps, no prep, and no time travel.

cool, when do you think you could get it in? is your timezone ET

DarkSaint85
I would allow BFR and time travel. No limits on offensive attacks, which I would need because all Flash can do is run really fast.

AlbertoJohnAvil
sure, no limit on offense. but I just feel BFR and time travel is the easier route

DarkSaint85
For you maybe. What can I do, punch you to Africa really hard??

AlbertoJohnAvil
wouldn't time travel make it less interesting though? since flash wouldnt technically be fighting Odinson

DarkSaint85
How so?

AlbertoJohnAvil
Because why travel back in time instead of fighting the present? idk i just find it boring lol

DarkSaint85
Oh I thought it was Thor travelling back in time laughing out loud

Nah, am sure Thor can handle himself at any age. Besides, it's not like Wally can time travel to Asgard 100 years ago, or Marvel Earth 50 years ago or whatever

AlbertoJohnAvil
cool. no outside assistance though

DarkSaint85
What's outside assistance?

DarkSaint85
In any case, my OP has been sent in.

AlbertoJohnAvil
meaning no outside help

DarkSaint85
Cool. I've done mine, was a bit shorter than my usual but been a bit busy today.

Damborgson
OP'S received, I'll have your thread up monentsrily thumb up

Judges, if you're still interested in judging something your help would be much apppreciated.

AlbertoJohnAvil
btw just wondering Wouldnt these time clones count as outside help seening as any character whos power set involes time travel could produce something like this?

DarkSaint85
I don't think its outside help, as it's literally himself.

Like having Multiple Man.

AlbertoJohnAvil
ah alright, but is it a known concept for flashes to create time clones?
I haven't seen flashes making a physical clone besides godspeed here, I might be wrong though

https://imgur.com/a/Qdd0dbp

bart has shown a similar ability but his clones are more ethereal if I remember right,and ever since one died and he felt it,he hasnt done it anymore

DarkSaint85
That's for you to bring up in the debate! And for me to refute. But I WILL point out, though, that I've already posted scans of him making clones.

AlbertoJohnAvil
cool

staxamillion
so we are waiting until all the rebuttal posts are completed still correct?

Damborgson
Yes sir.

staxamillion
thanks m8

Philosophía
Is there a time limit here?

Damborgson
Alberto sounded interested in some casual BZ'ing so I'm giving it a two week window.

Or if they finish first, they finish first thumb up

DarkSaint85
Well I will be on holiday next week, so am hoping we wrap up this week.

Damborgson
Just waiting on Alberto...

MrMind
wait Alberto what happened to your bz with damborg? did you bail on that?

AlbertoJohnAvil
alright cool just went!

Damborgson
Alright ! Final posts in by Sunday guys, no exceptions as we've had plenty of time !

Damborgson
Okay judges, BZ is ready for judging thumb up

Philosophía
I'll send mine tomorrow night at latest.

DarkSaint85
Same as mine, I guess.

staxamillion
ok

Damborgson
Stax just worry about DS vs Alberto !

He forfeited in our BZ.

Smurph
Unclear if I'm still judging... but it seems like you have three. thumb up

Let me know if you need another.

Damborgson
I do need you Smurph. I always need you.

No but for real, I only have Stax and Philo...

Smurph

Damborgson
I have received only Philos verdict so far

Smurph
Sent mine in

Damborgson
Okay we have a winner, but I'll wait for Stax a bit...

staxamillion
sorry fellas I thought this I was canned but that was a different BZ

staxamillion
ill catch up, should post later

staxamillion
should be in tonight.... I know you guys have decided. my bad

DarkSaint85
Well think of it as evidence for future BZs, should you wish to judge.

Damborgson
Stax sent in his verdict....sort of.

Will post in a bit.

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