Wolverine [with a twist] vs Hulk

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Philosophía
Wolverine gets Quicksilver level superspeed, and gets time to adjust and use it perfectly.

World War Hulk.

Who wins?

Galan007
Hulk gets absolutely slaughtered.

StiltmanFTW
Originally posted by Galan007
Hulk gets absolutely slaughtered.

Flyattractor
World War Hulk has a HF possibly Better then even Little Jimmy thus He can't be defeated by mere cuts.

Hulk Wins.

Eventually.

xJLxKing
Yeah Wolverine probably after chopping WWH to many pieces

Rage.Of.Olympus
Hulk wins. Strength/power > Speed in comics 98.95% of the time.

Besides, Speed or no speed, Wolverine's claws just can't do enough damage. Hulk's healing factor is easily as good as Wolverine's if not superior, and he can realistically, one-shot him if he got angry enough far before he hits WB levels.

I dk how anyone can read Greg Pak's Hulk run, and think adding speed to Wolverine would mean Green Scar could go down.

StiltmanFTW
Doesn't work that way... each blow already turns Wolverine's organs to jelly, so stronger punches are quite redundant... weakening his healing factor takes time.

Hulk is f*cked here.

carver9
Hulk will tag him just like he has tagged Q.S before. This is a stalemate due to both of their amazing healing factor.

StiltmanFTW
You know Wolverine can turn him into a salad and eat him, right?

xJLxKing
Originally posted by carver9
Hulk will tag him just like he has tagged Q.S before. This is a stalemate due to both of their amazing healing factor. batman has tagged Zoom, doesn't mean much in forum setting

carver9
Means a lot in a forum imo because Hulk speed has always been surprising to most. He has literally blitzed beings that was said to be moving at "super speed".

xJLxKing

carver9
It doesnt have to be a number though. Having great speed is completely than moving or reacting at super speed. Spiderman have speed, hes fast but he does not have super speed. That is for people like Flash and Quicksilver.

StiltmanFTW
The term can be used the way you've described, sure.

But it can also be much broader and get applied to all creatures exhibiting speed levels above those of a peak human.

Anyway, xJ wants you to be specific and you're doding the question, carv.

Adding CURRENT Pietro's speed on top of Wolverine's powerset and skillset makes him a deadly foe that Hulk can't deal with.

shiv
Tons of sharpened adamantium bullets were fired at WWH.

So wolverine is going to stab him a lot, yeah right.

Hulko destroys the battle arena.

Shockwave KO's wolverine superspeed and all.

cdtm
So wait:

Is the Quicksilver speed replacing the heat claws? This is an important detail.

StiltmanFTW
laughing out loud

Flyattractor
Originally posted by cdtm
So wait:

Is the Quicksilver speed replacing the heat claws? This is an important detail.

maybe the claws can get hot due to friction....he likes to rub them alot...

Rage.Of.Olympus

StiltmanFTW
That's the thing. Hulk liquifies it, it heals. You need to repeat the process enough times to max out his healing factor, no shortcuts.

And? Ross' military attack was nothing. With this level of speed, Logan can literally chop him to pieces.

Hulk can't win in a forum fight. Claws that cut clean through Terminus' armor - something your Thor failed to do, by the way - backed up by QS speed are a scary thought.

StyleTime
Quickverine would decapitate Hulk. No joke.

And Wolverine's organs are already turned to mush by basically anyone over 40 tons or so. It's not like you can liquefy him harder. He will heal all the same, but he's a legit speedster on top of that.

DarkSaint85
Originally posted by carver9
Means a lot in a forum imo because Hulk speed has always been surprising to most. He has literally blitzed beings that was said to be moving at "super speed".

When has he done so?

And it better not be that same old tired scan of those no name cowboys.

Sin I AM
People must not be aware of just how fast QS currently is.

DarkSaint85
Wolverine was just too slow last time:

https://lowbrowcomics.files.wordpress.com/2016/05/world_war_hulk_-_x-men_002_018.jpg

He was hurting WWH just fine. Tougher skin, sure, but with this level of speed, he has all the time in the world.

StiltmanFTW
Originally posted by StyleTime
Quickverine would decapitate Hulk. No joke.

And Wolverine's organs are already turned to mush by basically anyone over 40 tons or so. It's not like you can liquefy him harder. He will heal all the same, but he's a legit speedster on top of that.

Correct.

Aside from his bones (adamantium-laced or not), his durability is pretty much human level.

Srank's been saying this for almost a whole decade before he left, lol.

Originally posted by Sin I AM
People must not be aware of just how fast QS currently is.

thumb up

Exactly.

Even Ultimate QS has feats like giving Ult. Sue a few million papercuts:

https://i.imgur.com/zrozlwM.jpg

Or combo-blitzing Ult. Thing:

https://i.imgur.com/TQMAiZ1.jpg

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Wolverine was just too slow last time:

https://lowbrowcomics.files.wordpress.com/2016/05/world_war_hulk_-_x-men_002_018.jpg

He was hurting WWH just fine. Tougher skin, sure, but with this level of speed, he has all the time in the world.

Cut him? Check.

Stabbed him? Check.

Gouged his eyes out? Check.

WWH's skin resisted one attack in that mini-series, kudos. So did Exodus, Colossus or TO Cable. They all still received significant injuries afterwards.

-Pr-
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Correct.

Aside from his bones (adamantium-laced or not), his durability is pretty much human level.

Srank's been saying this for almost a whole decade before he left, lol.

Wait... Did people not know this?

StiltmanFTW
Originally posted by -Pr-
Wait... Did people not know this?

Some just find it hard to believe that he turns to jelly each time he kisses knuckles of a Class 100 character.

And it'd be fine, as comics are not known for making much sense... I mean, look at your Cyclops getting literally punched in the face by a f*cking Sentinel... but we have on-panel statements describing in detail how that is exactly what happens to Logan.

-Pr-
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Some just find it hard to believe that he turns to jelly each time he kisses knuckles of a Class 100 character.

And it'd be fine, as comics are not known for making much sense... I mean, look at your Cyclops getting literally punched in the face by a f*cking Sentinel... but we have on-panel statements describing in detail how that is exactly what happens to Logan.

lol, yeah, that was a good one. Not even a concussion... Somehow.

But yeah, I mean, his healing picks up the slack and keeps him ticking. That's the point.

Philosophía
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Cut him? Check.

Stabbed him? Check.

Gouged his eyes out? Check.

WWH's skin resisted one attack in that mini-series, kudos. So did Exodus, Colossus or TO Cable. They all still received significant injuries afterwards. Hm. Does Hulk have feats of regenerating fast enough on that level?

Say, Wolverine could slash him a million times instantly, in the same spot.

So it's not like *slash*, 3 seconds delay, regenerate a bit, slash a different spot etc.

It's slash, slash slash, his neck, until it falls.

Wouldn't this be the equivalent of, well, his healing factor not even existing, since it never gets time to functionally work? Unless there's feats of Hulk regenerating substantially in nanoseconds?

cdtm
Daken is Hulks worst nightmare. Claws that suppress his hf, and a pheromone that makes him impossible to track.



In any event, even without the special claws, Hulk should have limits. He isn't Shaggy Man.

carver9
Stalemate

Philosophía
Originally posted by carver9
Stalemate What's stopping Wolverine from cutting him into pieces?

8swords
decapitates him..
https://i.imgur.com/f7vsosR.jpg

Philosophía
That does seem like a plausible scenario.

What say you, carvy?

cdtm

Philosophía
It's not even a matter of how long he can regenerate, but how fast.

From Quickverine's perspective, the healing factor would be standing still, so he could chop again....and again...and again....until there's little pieces spreaded out all over the continent.

cdtm
Zemo broke apart Genis-Vell like that.

But he also spread him out across pockets of the Dark Dimension. Just in case.



He'd be so easy to bring back, but no one seems to want to.

StiltmanFTW
Already asked carv about that.

Apparently, it's one of those rare cases when Hulk is not Hulk... shifty

Alternatively, he will repost this scan again, completely ignoring the context behind it and pretending we didn't discuss it 100 times already:

https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11112/111124216/6181732-3165499148-54952.jpg

StiltmanFTW
Originally posted by cdtm
Daken is Hulks worst nightmare. Claws that suppress his hf, and a pheromone that makes him impossible to track.



In any event, even without the special claws, Hulk should have limits. He isn't Shaggy Man.

Daken only had those Muramasa Claws for a short time.

And even back then, only few writers/artists cared enough to remember them.

He lost them 9 years ago, cd. It's time to move forward.

Stoic
I tend to agree that Silverine is too fast and likely wins,but there's just one pesky showing of wwHulk hitting a blitzing Sentry that has me thinking the the Hulk has a chance.

DarkSaint85
But WWH was tagged fairly easily by Wolverine (and X-23 etc), and this was before he's amped.....

Philosophía
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