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so, both battles take place on earth sized balls of adamantium. on one earth, john stewart and guy gardner have to take out the immortal hulk, and on another earth, zod and faora have to beat the immortal hulk.

no bfr.

which team can kill or ko the monster first? or can either team beat him at all.....?

kryptonians.


muh near abstract overpowering

Neither. Immortal Hulk shrugged off hits from beings that was pushing planet weights in the same issue (Hercules hurt his hand punching him) and Hulk was damaging a being that took the entire Avengers amped from Wanda to defeat (this same person one shot destroyed Grandmaster). I feel confident that both teams doesnt survive a single hit from Hulk. Now, if we are debating KMC style, no characters outside of LT is beating the Flashes or the Kryptonians. Glad I am one of the rarest that actually use on panel evidence for my claimings (and not debate powerset vs powerset).

Neither. Without bfr, they aren't winning against the Hulk. He can't die, and was talking with a detached head. He'd have forever to strength amp, while they'd continue taking lump after crippling lump.

Originally posted by carver9
Glad I am one of the rarest that actually use on panel evidence for my claimings (and not debate powerset vs powerset). qft.

GL's can just suffocate Hulk. Send a construct right into his lungs.

serious question--CAN hulk be suffocated? he evolved some way to breathe underwater, didn't he? not sure suffocation would be an option....

Originally posted by Stoic
Neither. Without bfr, they aren't winning against the Hulk. He can't die, and was talking with a detached head. He'd have forever to strength amp, while they'd continue taking lump after crippling lump.

They can completely disintegrate him.

Since his durability isn't like Gladiators type, and he takes injury easy and relies on healing.

Originally posted by leonidas
serious question--CAN hulk be suffocated? he evolved some way to breathe underwater, didn't he? not sure suffocation would be an option....

He evolved a way to... not breath?

I can see him taking a deeper breath, but as far as I know, he still needs to breath eventually.

Originally posted by cdtm
He evolved a way to... not breath?

I can see him taking a deeper breath, but as far as I know, he still needs to breath eventually. He heals from the suffocation damage and survives

Lol... Hulk has been in space on multiple of occasions. CDTM is crazy.

Pis. Hulk drowned underwater.

A GL can just gas him.

Gas is like Hulks Kryptonite:

https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/0/2532/2431543-batsbeatshulk.png

We sure this is a fan edit, and not a directors cut from the trade?

Even Indestructibl Hulk was hurting from gas

Haven't seen a solid argument yet. Both sides lose.

Originally posted by leonidas
so, both battles take place on earth sized balls of adamantium. on one earth, john stewart and guy gardner have to take out the immortal hulk, and on another earth, zod and faora have to beat the immortal hulk.

no bfr.

which team can kill or ko the monster first? or can either team beat him at all.....?

Im not too sure about the GLs...well mostly Guy due to his performance against Damage. Iirc John got a powerup or something but my memory is foggy when it comes to all the new lantern colors. Think it had something to do with ultraviolet or something.

I do have some knowledge about Zod and Faora. I think they can put him down. It seems like Hulks wins had a lot to do with him getting inside peoples head. Like how he beat Jennifer or how he was messing with Cap. Not to say he isn't strong given how easily he hurt Thor i cant see him taking on these two simultaneously. So I will roll with the kryptonians unless someone can enlighten me on John Stewart

Originally posted by carver9
Haven't seen a solid argument yet. Both sides lose. Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Even Indestructibl Hulk was hurting from gas Originally posted by cdtm
A GL can just gas him.

Gas is like Hulks Kryptonite:

https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/0/2532/2431543-batsbeatshulk.png

We sure this is a fan edit, and not a directors cut from the trade?

Hulk holding together Sakaars Tetonic plates together with his hands.
any feat of an kryptonian matching this?


https://i.postimg.cc/v4JM03Bh/sr.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/62HmmpcK/sop.jpg

Originally posted by Sin I AM
Im not too sure about the GLs...well mostly Guy due to his performance against Damage. Iirc John got a powerup or something but my memory is foggy when it comes to all the new lantern colors. Think it had something to do with ultraviolet or something.

I do have some knowledge about Zod and Faora. I think they can put him down. It seems like Hulks wins had a lot to do with him getting inside peoples head. Like how he beat Jennifer or how he was messing with Cap. Not to say he isn't strong given how easily he hurt Thor i cant see him taking on these two simultaneously. So I will roll with the kryptonians unless someone can enlighten me on John Stewart

Getting in Caps head? What does that even matter (dont remember this happening)? Are you implying Captain America can beat Hulk?

Jennifer has been amplified by the power of a Celestial. Their fight would've taken decades to end. Yes, he got under her skin. Everyone else got curbed. He even one punched the new Ghost Rider. Captain Marvel would not have made a difference. They already fought ending with him smiling at her punches and one punching her into orbit. Thor got his skull cracked in a single hit. Jane got treated like fodder. Hercules got treated like fodder. Hulk has always been said to be the most powerful being on the planet. None of the Avengers could have stopped him. It's been said throughout his fresh appearance that no one can stop him.

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
Hulk holding together Sakaars Tetonic plates together with his hands.
any feat of an kryptonian matching this?


https://i.postimg.cc/v4JM03Bh/sr.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/62HmmpcK/sop.jpg

The weaker "Post Crisis Superman" fixed plates, before the merge.

Look how much hulk is straining there, he struggling so much.

Originally posted by cdtm
The weaker "Post Crisis Superman" fixed plates, before the merge.

what do you mean?

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
Hulk holding together Sakaars Tetonic plates together with his hands.
any feat of an kryptonian matching this?


https://i.postimg.cc/v4JM03Bh/sr.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/62HmmpcK/sop.jpg
Even rookie GLs have stitched tectonic plates together.

https://i.postimg.cc/NK94tsHB/glmineclearingandplanetfixing.jpg

Not to mention three daxamites (almost equal to kryptonians) have moved Earth to a different universe.


https://i.postimg.cc/YhcFmvy7/image.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/VdjC9z3C/image.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/xX5N7tjj/image.jpg

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
Hulk holding together Sakaars Tetonic plates together with his hands.
any feat of an kryptonian matching this?


https://i.postimg.cc/v4JM03Bh/sr.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/62HmmpcK/sop.jpg https://s7d6.turboimg.net/t1/40292037_Superman-13-pg-001.jpg https://s7d6.turboimg.net/t1/40292040_Superman-13-pg-002.jpg

Originally posted by abhilegend
Even rookie GLs have stitched tectonic plates together.

https://i.postimg.cc/NK94tsHB/glmineclearingandplanetfixing.jpg

Not to mention three daxamites (almost equal to kryptonians) have moved Earth to a different universe.


https://i.postimg.cc/YhcFmvy7/image.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/VdjC9z3C/image.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/xX5N7tjj/image.jpg

honestly didn't see tha tone feat from rookie lanterns, pretty impressive. but they're usually pretty weak against bricks

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
honestly didn't see tha tone feat from rookie lanterns, pretty impressive. but they're usually pretty weak against bricks
Yeah, who cares about feats. They are just weak against bricks.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Even a rookie Lantern like Jessica can hold far more weight.

https://s1.postimg.cc/1wkhpgpkm3/014_0017.jpg

That's 1.5 sextillion kgs.

Later she held the entire planet together.

https://static2.cbrimages.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/GLS-34-1.jpg
https://static2.cbrimages.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/GLS-34-2.jpg

Inside a supernova.

The double standards are just hilarious.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Yeah, who cares about feats. They are just weak against bricks.



The double standards are just hilarious.

How would the lanterns overcome Hulk's continous growth strength and healing factor? without bfr

They cant beat Hulk. Damage just brushed a main Lantern off as if he was nothing. Hulk would peel away at their constructs and one punch them. Easily.

@Abhilegend: Wouldn't that feat make Jessica Cruz the most powerful member of the current Rebirth Justice League besides Superman?

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
How would the lanterns overcome Hulk's continous growth strength and healing factor? without bfr
By just blasting the shit out of him.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Hal kills a sun eater and creates a new sun with two other GLs.

https://i.postimg.cc/qNBqgNKY/10.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/xXsCm9yd/11.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/PLPqz02Q/12.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/1g23WMdh/13.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/ZvhKmnZw/14.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/jnQqSTSt/15.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/yWF8PmXt/17.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/gnmkBxgJ/18.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/fVbWD6nQ/19.jpg

Originally posted by XLR87T3
@Abhilegend: Wouldn't that feat make Jessica Cruz the most powerful member of the current Rebirth Justice League besides Superman?
Yes. But Superman is far more powerful than Jessica.

Originally posted by abhilegend
That's just how he viewed the power levels. Yet, Superman was more powerful than the rest of the league combined.

https://s8.postimg.cc/nebu3y3y9/image.jpg https://s8.postimg.cc/xbmux0j9t/image.jpg https://s8.postimg.cc/3jpshu469/image.jpg https://s8.postimg.cc/ts0x77vzl/image.jpg https://s8.postimg.cc/rap5zyjsx/image.jpg https://s8.postimg.cc/hq5jd326p/image.jpg

The timeless robots were strong enough to go through Lanterns like nothing and shrug off Diana as nothing with even Zeus struggling against them.

Superman overpowered several dozens of the same robots simultaneously.

Also

Originally posted by abhilegend
That wouldn't be necessary. Superman destroyed Eclipso with his HV while he was drained by Killer Frost willingly.

https://i.postimg.cc/McJRnYgY/33-007.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/SXL9CMhb/33-009.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/zb0RPYvd/33-010.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/z3GhHv24/33-012.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/mhpHY40k/33-013.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/TpyWQS69/33-014.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/wtzyqjsf/33-015.jpg

Eclipso had casually blocked the actual sun with his shadows in the previous issue.

https://i.postimg.cc/t18cZ8pM/22-26.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/34pcg9wJ/22-27.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/jnbkvNW6/22-28.jpg Originally posted by carver9
They cant beat Hulk. Damage just brushed a main Lantern off as if he was nothing. Hulk would peel away at their constructs and one punch them. Easily.
Right, because Damage's feats are transferred to Hulk.

not all lanterns can be scaled the same, and certainly not star level. as seen here when they are fodderized by the guards of new genesis.

https://i.postimg.cc/RNkSLymP/sp.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/NKvtHX8S/od.jpg

Damage is originally based off Hulk, and obviously doesn't hit as hard as Hulk.

hulk using one step to destroy manhattan

https://i.postimg.cc/T5rKV6SX/lga.jpg

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
not all lanterns can be scaled the same, and certainly not star level. as seen here when they are fodderized by the guards of new genesis.

https://i.postimg.cc/RNkSLymP/sp.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/NKvtHX8S/od.jpg
That means the guards of new Genesis are ****ing powerful as GLs have quantifiable feats that shows they are that powerful.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Didn't see this posted.

A rogue Lantern shields himself from a supernova and traps all of his race in a suspended animation in a construct as large as a planet for millions of years.

https://s22.postimg.cc/6upmy5tel/RCO019.jpg https://s22.postimg.cc/cvnbv8nql/RCO020.jpg https://s22.postimg.cc/qckae45rx/RCO021.jpg https://s22.postimg.cc/t6nfrkfnx/RCO024.jpg https://s22.postimg.cc/hhjg3lwf1/RCO026.jpg https://s22.postimg.cc/z7l4onhpp/RCO029.jpg https://s22.postimg.cc/89r7mx4sd/RCO034.jpg

That's a random GL.

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
Damage is originally based off Hulk, and obviously doesn't hit as hard as Hulk.

hulk using one step to destroy manhattan

https://i.postimg.cc/T5rKV6SX/lga.jpg
So obvious, eh? Mind showing Hulk doing something like that to a GL? Because even Guy Gardner has pulled dwarf star pieces destablizing an entire star system and then stabilized the whole star system.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Guy Gardner moves pieces of a white dwarf star which were destabilizing an entire star system and stabilizes the whole system.
https://s22.postimg.cc/ho5ypvcxp/RCO007.jpg https://s22.postimg.cc/d29uhj6u5/RCO009.jpg
https://s22.postimg.cc/jsqbqz1pp/RCO002.jpg https://s22.postimg.cc/iqg58fqm5/RCO003.jpg
Manhattan is obviously bigger than an entire star system, eh?

Do you honestly think Gardner is on par with Hulk SHEER strength wise? really?

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
Damage is originally based off Hulk, and obviously doesn't hit as hard as Hulk.

hulk using one step to destroy manhattan

https://i.postimg.cc/T5rKV6SX/lga.jpg Different Hulk. This thread is using Immortal Hulk. If you have cause to believe ImHulk is stronger than WBH you need to prove it.

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
Do you honestly think Gardner is on par with Hulk SHEER strength wise? really?
You're the one who stated posting feats of Hulk as if we are supposed to be impressed.

Why don't you post Hulk stabilizing an entire star system to prove me wrong?

It takes more to pull a planet together then to move it

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
It takes more to pull a planet together then to move it

that's... actually interesting to think about

the force to move the planet outside of the sun's orbit is way way more than the planet's mass

Originally posted by abhilegend
Yes. But Superman is far more powerful than Jessica. Hold on, wouldn't holding the planet be more of a strength feat, rather than a durability feat, and thus isn't something to really judge how strong these constructs really are?

And Rebirth Zeus seems almost featless, like he's barely more powerful than Wonder Woman herself, so of course he would struggle

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
It takes more to pull a planet together then to move it
That's not even close to be true. But then Jessica pulled the entire planet together at 46% willpower.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Also


Right, because Damage's feats are transferred to Hulk. Also, Killer Frost clearly helped him and tampered with his heat vision in order to effect Eclipso. How do we know Superman could do that without Killer Frost's help? It can easily be argued that she amplified his heat vision somehow

Originally posted by XLR87T3
Hold on, wouldn't holding the planet be more of a strength feat, rather than a durability feat, and thus isn't something to really judge how strong these constructs really are?

The constructs can take the weight of a planet but Timeless broke through it like nothing.

Haha, what? This is post crisis Zeus. There is no such thing as Rebirth Zeus only.

Originally posted by XLR87T3
Also, Killer Frost clearly helped him and tampered with his heat vision in order to effect Eclipso. How do we know Superman could do that without Killer Frost's help? It can easily be argued that she amplified his heat vision somehow
Because Batman straight up said that all she would do is change HV to its parts which makes the result solar energy.

A prism can't amplify the energy. You can argue anything if you want to be an idiot.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Because Batman straight up said that all she would do is change HV to its parts which makes the result solar energy.

A prism can't amplify the energy. You can argue anything if you want to be an idiot. Ok thanks

Originally posted by abhilegend
That means the guards of new Genesis are ****ing powerful as GLs have quantifiable feats that shows they are that powerful.



That's a random GL. Since when can a random green lantern defeat Hal Jordan, John Stewart, and Guy Gardner simultaneously? Hal is stronger than the entire corps, this is clearly not an average green lantern

Originally posted by XLR87T3
Ok thanks

Since when can a random green lantern defeat Hal Jordan, John Stewart, and Guy Gardner simultaneously? Hal is stronger than the entire corps, this is clearly not an average green lantern

Because he got drop on them and they were unprepared to fight him.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Also


Right, because Damage's feats are transferred to Hulk.

Hulk is more powerful than Damage. Just that simple.

Originally posted by abhilegend
You're the one who stated posting feats of Hulk as if we are supposed to be impressed.

Why don't you post Hulk stabilizing an entire star system to prove me wrong?

He almost depleted an Abstract of his power. That's greater than anything you've mentioned.

Originally posted by carver9
Hulk is more powerful than Damage. Just that simple.
Not unless you show Hulk beating someone who can stabilize an entire star system like Damage did to Guy Gardner.

Originally posted by carver9
He almost depleted an Abstract of his power. That's greater than anything you've mentioned.
Order half of In betweener is hardly an abstract.

Hal straight up killed Krona amped on entire emotional spectrum. That's what you call an abstract killer.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Not unless you show Hulk beating someone who can stabilize an entire star system like Damage did to Guy Gardner.

characters' power level vary through writers.

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
characters' power level vary through writers.
No shit kid.

He can control his limbs without them being attached to his body, survive with all his organs missing and can heal it all back together in seconds. Good luck getting past that

https://i.postimg.cc/nCy9gK53/trh.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/Js30Ffjh/rof.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/w7X9xhMf/rb.jpg

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
He can control his limbs without them being attached to his body, survive with all his organs missing and can heal it all back together in seconds. Good luck getting past that


While being amped on Sasquatch's power. Good luck ignoring context.

Also helios burned him to crisp.

https://postimg.cc/dLzvPh77
https://postimg.cc/dhrFqJd5
https://postimg.cc/sBzrxb4s

And three GLs can create entire sun.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Hal kills a sun eater and creates a new sun with two other GLs.

https://i.postimg.cc/qNBqgNKY/10.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/xXsCm9yd/11.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/PLPqz02Q/12.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/1g23WMdh/13.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/ZvhKmnZw/14.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/jnQqSTSt/15.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/yWF8PmXt/17.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/gnmkBxgJ/18.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/fVbWD6nQ/19.jpg

Hulk will get oneshotted to a crisp.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Order half of In betweener is hardly an abstract.

Hal straight up killed Krona amped on entire emotional spectrum. That's what you call an abstract killer.

So you're presence ripping space and time apart. Controlling an IG wielder and the Phoenix Force isn't at those levels? It's quite clear what the writer intended in that story.

So Krona was an Abstract?

Originally posted by abhilegend
While being amped on Sasquatch's power. Good luck ignoring context.

Also helios burned him to crisp.

https://postimg.cc/dLzvPh77
https://postimg.cc/dhrFqJd5
https://postimg.cc/sBzrxb4s

And three GLs can create entire sun.



Hulk will get oneshotted to a crisp.

He didnt lose that amp either. If anything, he became more powerful after his fight against SAS.

Originally posted by carver9
So you're presence ripping space and time apart. Controlling an IG wielder and the Phoenix Force isn't at those levels? It's quite clear what the writer intended in that story.

So Krona was an Abstract?
The cosmic cube was ripping time and space apart. Those IG users and PF avatars were background fodder with nothing to go on.

Yes, Krona with all the emotional entities is a bonafide abstract. Heck Hal with Parallax stalemated Spectre.

Originally posted by carver9
He didnt lose that amp either. If anything, he became more powerful after his fight against SAS.
You mean where Creel drained all that power from him and used it to open the green door?

Originally posted by abhilegend
You mean where Creel drained all that power from him and used it to open the green door?

Wait a minute. Are you saying that power level didnt become part of him. I honestly need you to prove he became weaker? Hulk has received upgrades via radiation and other outside sources and NOTHING points to him losing those upgrades due to being energy drained. Are you crazy?

Originally posted by abhilegend
The cosmic cube was ripping time and space apart. Those IG users and PF avatars were background fodder with nothing to go on.

Yes, Krona with all the emotional entities is a bonafide abstract. Heck Hal with Parallax stalemated Spectre.

The cosmic cube at the height of its power is an abstract weapon. Lol at fodder.

What fts does this Abstract Krona have?

Originally posted by carver9
Getting in Caps head? What does that even matter (dont remember this happening)? Are you implying Captain America can beat Hulk?

Jennifer has been amplified by the power of a Celestial. Their fight would've taken decades to end. Yes, he got under her skin. Everyone else got curbed. He even one punched the new Ghost Rider. Captain Marvel would not have made a difference. They already fought ending with him smiling at her punches and one punching her into orbit. Thor got his skull cracked in a single hit. Jane got treated like fodder. Hercules got treated like fodder. Hulk has always been said to be the most powerful being on the planet. None of the Avengers could have stopped him. It's been said throughout his fresh appearance that no one can stop him.

Yes he got in his head with the Hydra comment..which is y he stammered. No don't be silly

I never said Jennifer was weak just that Hulk mindphucked her and took advantage. Everything else you mentioned isnt relevant

Originally posted by Sin I AM
Yes he got in his head with the Hydra comment..which is y he stammered. No don't be silly

I never said Jennifer was weak just that Hulk mindphucked her and took advantage. Everything else you mentioned isnt relevant

You're right. If he didnt mention the Hydra comment, Cap would've soloed. Thanks for mentioning that Sin.

He did mind mess with her. Doesnt take away from everything else he did during that showing. He destroyed the Avengers, and easily.

Originally posted by carver9
Wait a minute. Are you saying that power level didnt become part of him. I honestly need you to prove he became weaker? Hulk has received upgrades via radiation and other outside sources and NOTHING points to him losing those upgrades due to being energy drained. Are you crazy?
Are you an idiot? Wait, don't answer that.

Hulk got drained of the excess power that Sasquatch had which was infected by Brian Banner and he never got it back. What's so hard to understand?

Originally posted by carver9
The cosmic cube at the height of its power is an abstract weapon. Lol at fodder.

What fts does this Abstract Krona have?
Except Hulk never fought cosmic cube. CCU easily ripped in betweener apart whose half part imprisoned Hulk.

Less than what Krona had made Volthoom universal level reality warper. Better than a cosmic cube too.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Are you an idiot? Wait, don't answer that.

Hulk got drained of the excess power that Sasquatch had which was infected by Brian Banner and he never got it back. What's so hard to understand?

So now we resort to name calling?

Again, NOTHING was ever shown of him weakening. Also, Creel amped himself with radiation afterwards and transferred it to the Hulk. If anything, Hulk became more powerful. He took out a hell lord that engulfed the sky/buildings with a thunderclap.

Can you point me to dialog that states he became weaker? Thanks!!!

Originally posted by carver9
You're right. If he didnt mention the Hydra comment, Cap would've soloed. Thanks for mentioning that Sin.

He did mind mess with her. Doesnt take away from everything else he did during that showing. He destroyed the Avengers, and easily.

Did I phuckin say Cap would solo? Stop being a little bittcch. I said Hulk used mind games to make Cap and Jen doubt themselves. I also acknowledged he was stronger due to his one shotting Thor. Don't play me

Originally posted by Sin I AM
Did I phuckin say Cap would solo? Stop being a little bittcch. I said Hulk used mind games to make Cap and Jen doubt themselves. I also acknowledged he was stronger due to his one shotting Thor. Don't play me

Glad you agreed that even if he didnt say what he said, the outcome would have been the same. Thanks for the debate.

Are you two arguing whether Captain America could have beaten Hulk on his own?

Because I totally think Cap didn't really need Spider-Man.

Anyways, what stops Hal from simply taking apart Hulk atom by atom, and dispersing them across the universe? No one can come back from that.


He did shrink Shaggy Man, after all. A top tier GL can definitely affect Hulk, and make him not exist anymore.

Originally posted by carver9
So now we resort to name calling?

Again, NOTHING was ever shown of him weakening. Also, Creel amped himself with radiation afterwards and transferred it to the Hulk. If anything, Hulk became more powerful. He took out a hell lord that engulfed the sky/buildings with a thunderclap.

Can you point me to dialog that states he became weaker? Thanks!!!
Calling you an idiot is hardly name calling.

Yeah, an emaciated Hulk is not weakened. Only you can reach to that conclusion.

When Creel powered him, Hulk got back to full power. Sasquatch's power was not given back as it was still infected by Brian Banner.

Hulk said that the thunderclap will buy them a minute only.

Read the comic idiot.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Calling you an idiot is hardly name calling.

Yeah, an emaciated Hulk is not weakened. Only you can reach to that conclusion.

When Creel powered him, Hulk got back to full power. Sasquatch's power was not given back as it was still infected by Brian Banner.

Hulk said that the thunderclap will buy them a minute only.

Read the comic idiot.

Makes you look like a child tbh. Grow up.

Provide proof that Hulk is no longer stronger than he was before. You're the first I've heard this from and your credibility is laughable at best.

Back to the power levels he was at before. I need proof that he is weakened.

Incapitating someone, even for a minute is defeating them. What is wrong with you?

Originally posted by carver9
Makes you look like a child tbh. Grow up.

Provide proof that Hulk is no longer stronger than he was before. You're the first I've heard this from and your credibility is laughable at best.

Back to the power levels he was at before. I need proof that he is weakened.

Incapitating someone, even for a minute is defeating them. What is wrong with you?
Heh, the sheer irony of you calling someone a child is mind boggling.

Why would I prove a negative? Why don't you prove Sasquatch's power is still inside Hulk and Brian Banner still infected Hulk.

Proof of him being as strong as Hulk and Sasquatch combined?

Hulk never incapacitated TOBA. He dispersed an avatar which only bought a minute for him.

What's wrong with you?

Originally posted by abhilegend
Heh, the sheer irony of you calling someone a child is mind boggling.

Why would I prove a negative? Why don't you prove Sasquatch's power is still inside Hulk and Brian Banner still infected Hulk.

Proof of him being as strong as Hulk and Sasquatch combined?

Hulk never incapacitated TOBA. He dispersed an avatar which only bought a minute for him.

What's wrong with you?

Hey, I'm not the one going around throwing a hissy fit. You probably need to practice on debating and being mature at the same time.

Just so that I know how this works, when Hulk power is absorbed, he becomes weaker, right? So here, when Rogue absorbed his power, he became much weaker than he was before?

https://www.turboimagehost.com/p/38087719/Avengers_2016-_686-014.jpg.html

With that said, when Hulk absorbed Sasquash power AFTER Rogue absorbed Hulk power, did this take him back to normal power levels? Let me repeat. Rogue absorber Hulks power and after this, Hulk absorbed Sasquash power. With him absorbing more power into himself after Rogue absorbed him, did this take him back to his normal power levels?

Also want to point out that Hulk said that Creel gave him his power back. He didnt say part of it, he said he gave him his power back. Then we have Puck telling us that the true power lies with Banner, when him and Hulk is combined. Your making up stuff bro. We are use to it though.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Except Hulk never fought cosmic cube. CCU easily ripped in betweener apart whose half part imprisoned Hulk.

Less than what Krona had made Volthoom universal level reality warper. Better than a cosmic cube too.

The point went clean over your head. Lol... In-Betweener recently was the center piece that created the most powerful being in M.U. It was obvious what they were implying in regards to In-Betweener in the story.

Dont understand your Krona comment.

Originally posted by carver9
Hey, I'm not the one going around throwing a hissy fit. You probably need to practice on debating and being mature at the same time.



You're the most immature poster here carter.

This was AFTER Hulk had drained red hulk. So no, it does not mean Hulk was weakened.

No, it seems you need to be spoofed, Hulk was much stronger than usual and straight up stated to have been much stronger than usual.



Yes, his power. Not the one absorbed from Sasquatch which was infected with Brian Banner.

Shut up already if you can't read shit.

Originally posted by carver9
The point went clean over your head. Lol... In-Betweener recently was the center piece that created the most powerful being in M.U. It was obvious what they were implying in regards to In-Betweener in the story.

Yeah, the one who was beaten by Tiger God you mean? Also

Story of your life.

Originally posted by abhilegend


You're the most immature poster here carter.

This was AFTER Hulk had drained red hulk. So no, it does not mean Hulk was weakened.

No, it seems you need to be spoofed, Hulk was much stronger than usual and straight up stated to have been much stronger than usual.



Yes, his power. Not the one absorbed from Sasquatch which was infected with Brian Banner.

Shut up already if you can't read shit.



So you think the infection made him stronger as well? Nothing points to Hulk being weaker than before. I'm done discussing this with you. Believe what you want, I'm sticking by what I'm saying.

Abhi owning here.

Originally posted by carver9


So you think the infection made him stronger as well? Nothing points to Hulk being weaker than before. I'm done discussing this with you. Believe what you want, I'm sticking by what I'm saying.

Yes, it did.

Throwing towel in so soon? Good.

https://static5.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11119/111195111/5779654-4857574-3933402-spidey%2Band%2Bcap%2Bvs%2Brhino%2Band%2Bhulk%2B2.jpg

If Cap can do it.. (Spidey was there, but he mostly focused on Rhino.)

Originally posted by cdtm
If Cap can do it.. (Spidey was there, but he mostly focused on Rhino.)

No, that's not what happened.

Cap vs. Hulk is a flashback that Pete is experiencing there, which helped him to deal with Rhino (he copied Steve's moves to a degree).

Savage Hulk was already softened up by Parker; Steve even says he wouldn't have beaten him without Peter:

http://i65.tinypic.com/2hf12e0.png

Just because you hate the Hulk, doesn't mean you can spread misinformation.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
No, that's not what happened.

Cap vs. Hulk is a flashback that Pete is experiencing there, which helped him to deal with Rhino (he copied Steve's moves to a degree).

Savage Hulk was already softened up by Parker; Steve even says he wouldn't have beaten him without Peter:

http://i65.tinypic.com/2hf12e0.png

Just because you hate the Hulk, doesn't mean you can spread misinformation.

I've shamed the impeccable Carver standards.


So as I was saying, if Cap AND Spidey could do it...

Yes, you have.

As Steve wasn't even alive in that mini-series.

GLs and kryptoshits have plenty of bad showings too.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Yes, you have.

As Steve wasn't even alive in that mini-series.

GLs and kryptoshits have plenty of bad showings too.

Kryptoshit...

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Yes, you have.

As Steve wasn't even alive in that mini-series.

GLs and kryptoshits have plenty of bad showings too.



I get what you're saying. Plenty of times Cap hasn't knocked Hulk out.

Proof even Cap has low ends.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
No, that's not what happened.

Cap vs. Hulk is a flashback that Pete is experiencing there, which helped him to deal with Rhino (he copied Steve's moves to a degree).

Savage Hulk was already softened up by Parker; Steve even says he wouldn't have beaten him without Peter:

http://i65.tinypic.com/2hf12e0.png

Just because you hate the Hulk, doesn't mean you can spread misinformation.

Hulk may be bad, but it takes three almighty Spiderman's help to put him down.

Remember when Electro was watching Spidey vs. Hulk on TV and he knew Parker would win?

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Remember when Electro was watching Spidey vs. Hulk on TV and he knew Parker would win?

He even made a bet with white Caver:

https://i.imgur.com/P1UA3AU.jpg

Originally posted by carver9
Neither. Immortal Hulk shrugged off hits from beings that was pushing planet weights in the same issue (Hercules hurt his hand punching him) and Hulk was damaging a being that took the entire Avengers amped from Wanda to defeat (this same person one shot destroyed Grandmaster). I feel confident that both teams doesnt survive a single hit from Hulk. Now, if we are debating KMC style, no characters outside of LT is beating the Flashes or the Kryptonians. Glad I am one of the rarest that actually use on panel evidence for my claimings (and not debate powerset vs powerset).

Carver, characters operate at different levels in different scenes.
You are assuming characters operate at the same level in the same issue all the time. This is not true.

Stop using the highest feat a character did as the exact power they applied to something else in the same issue.

Originally posted by abhilegend
While being amped on Sasquatch's power. Good luck ignoring context.

Also helios burned him to crisp.

https://postimg.cc/dLzvPh77
https://postimg.cc/dhrFqJd5
https://postimg.cc/sBzrxb4s

And three GLs can create entire sun.



Hulk will get oneshotted to a crisp. That "star" was actually just a decoy they made that mimics a star.

Originally posted by carver9
Neither.

I mean we didnt actually expect you to say anything else than this.

Green Lanterns in Rebirth are strong but they're not star level

Originally posted by XLR87T3
That "star" was actually just a decoy they made that mimics a star.
That was an actual sun which they created as a decoy.

Originally posted by abhilegend
That was an actual sun which they created as a decoy. Hal specifically mentions that they're only going to mimic a star, by that comment alone you can clearly see that they're not creating a real star, they're just using plasma + GL Ring to attract the sun-eater, this is also reinforced by how in the next panel someone asks "they made a sun?" and then the other characters says "a DECOY sun" meaning they are just using plasma to attract the creature, they're not creating a real star or "an entire sun" like you said. Plus they're attracted to GL energy.

Originally posted by XLR87T3
Hal specifically mentions that they're only going to mimic a star, by that comment alone you can clearly see that they're not creating a real star, they're just using plasma + GL Ring to attract the sun-eater, this is also reinforced by how in the next panel someone asks "they made a sun?" and then the other characters says "a DECOY sun" meaning they are just using plasma to attract the creature, they're not creating a real star or "an entire sun" like you said. Plus they're attracted to GL energy.
Yeah, you need to actually create a second sun to fool a sun eater, it has been established since Final Night. Mimicking a star is just that, creating a second sun to fool it. A decoy sun is afterall, a sun.

Stop copy pasting comicvine posters here.

Originally posted by XLR87T3
Hal specifically mentions that they're only going to mimic a star, by that comment alone you can clearly see that they're not creating a real star, they're just using plasma + GL Ring to attract the sun-eater, this is also reinforced by how in the next panel someone asks "they made a sun?" and then the other characters says "a DECOY sun" meaning they are just using plasma to attract the creature, they're not creating a real star or "an entire sun" like you said. Plus they're attracted to GL energy.



@baph said:
@xlr87t3: Hal specifically mentions that they're only going to m i m i c a star, by that comment alone you can clearly see that they're not creating a real star, they're just using plasma + GL Ring to attract the sun-eater, this is also reinforced by how in the next panel someone asks "they made a sun?" and then the other characters says "a DECOY sun" meaning they are just using plasma to attract the creature, they're not creating a r e a l star or "an entire star" like you said. Plus they're attracted to GL energy.

You're the one spreading misinformation, not me.

https://comicvine.gamespot.com/forums/battles-7/2019-high-tier-pyp-1st-edition-gilgameshthepimptoe-1998916/?page=2

did you just copy the words of someone who beat you as your own? wow you really are a cuck

Originally posted by MrMind
@baph said:
@xlr87t3: Hal specifically mentions that they're only going to m i m i c a star, by that comment alone you can clearly see that they're not creating a real star, they're just using plasma + GL Ring to attract the sun-eater, this is also reinforced by how in the next panel someone asks "they made a sun?" and then the other characters says "a DECOY sun" meaning they are just using plasma to attract the creature, they're not creating a r e a l star or "an entire star" like you said. Plus they're attracted to GL energy.

You're the one spreading misinformation, not me.

https://comicvine.gamespot.com/forums/battles-7/2019-high-tier-pyp-1st-edition-gilgameshthepimptoe-1998916/?page=2

did you just copy the words of someone who beat you as your own? wow you really are a cuck

.....wow.

Originally posted by XLR87T3
Hal specifically mentions that they're only going to mimic a star, by that comment alone you can clearly see that they're not creating a real star, they're just using plasma + GL Ring to attract the sun-eater, this is also reinforced by how in the next panel someone asks "they made a sun?" and then the other characters says "a DECOY sun" meaning they are just using plasma to attract the creature, they're not creating a real star or "an entire sun" like you said. Plus they're attracted to GL energy. i actually didn't get that logic.they mimic a star energy to attract sun-eater as a decoy,so why not is a real star?even blackstar's female starbreaker(forgive me,i never good at remembering characters name....)said they "made a sun"and then hal said is a decoy sun(and i'm surely decoy never mean false or something,is mean a bait),also not deny they "made a sun"this part,and in final night,a bunch heroes also uses similar method to create a sun attract sun-eater

Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
i actually didn't get that logic.they mimic a star energy to attract sun-eater as a decoy,so why not is a real star?even blackstar's female starbreaker(forgive me,i never good at remembering characters name....)said they "made a sun"and then hal said is a decoy sun(and i'm surely decoy never mean false or something,is mean a bait),also not deny they "made a sun"this part,and in final night,a bunch heroes also uses similar method to create a sun attract sun-eater

you are asking someone who copy the opinions of others, he ain't got a clue

https://i.imgur.com/dJP2pKu.jpg

Originally posted by MrMind
you are asking someone who copy the opinions of others, he ain't got a clue

https://i.imgur.com/dJP2pKu.jpg


His brain hasn't yet evolved to the point where he can form his own opinions.

Joke of a troll, i actually feel bad for him.

Guys, cut it out.

Originally posted by XLR87T3
That "star" was actually just a decoy they made that mimics a star.

What's the functional difference?