What Group of X-Men can defeat JLA's Big 6?

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Quick Freeze
Is there any grouping of X-Men that can actually defeat:
Superman
Batman
Wonder Woman
Wally West
John Stewart
Martian Manhunter (non-jobber)

Supermutant
The X-Men Extinction team can wins some, especially given what Namor has done recently.

https://i.imgur.com/pBc62gwh.jpg

Delta1938
Originally posted by Supermutant
The X-Men Extinction team can wins some, especially given what Namor has done recently.

https://i.imgur.com/pBc62gwh.jpg

Who's the one with the sword, and who is the robot?

Supermutant
https://comicvine.gamespot.com/magik/4005-8303/

https://comicvine.gamespot.com/danger/4005-40862/

Delta1938
Originally posted by Supermutant
https://comicvine.gamespot.com/magik/4005-8303/

https://comicvine.gamespot.com/danger/4005-40862/

Thanks!

Deadline
Yea but people will always say that Flash is too fast.

Magnon
Phoenix Rachel Summers
Dark Phoenix Jean Grey
God Shaman Nate Grey
Defragmented Legion
Onslaught Charles Xavier
Omega Iceman

... although, Flash might still be too fast.

MrMind
Originally posted by Magnon
Phoenix Rachel Summers
Dark Phoenix Jean Grey
God Shaman Nate Grey
Defragmented Legion
Onslaught Charles Xavier
Omega Iceman

... although, Flash might still be too fast.


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Deadline
However though CIS is still on which means Flash won't move initialy at FTL.

MrMind
I was just joking about forum flash lol
other than iceman he's not taking any of the other people on magnon list

-Pr-
No Aquaman. How dare.

leonidas
if we can say full legion, he doesn't need anyone else....

if we're trying to find a more 'standard' version of the team that could stand a chance maybe, magik, nate (if we can use him), peak rachel, professor x, magneto, kid omega and someone like domino couldn't hurt.

there are others, and specific versions of characters that might be better, but not sure you were looking for that.

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leonidas
i don't think any in-book team of x-men could beat the jla. they have had such a huge roster over their history though that if we pick and choose we could find a team of them that could compete and possibly beat them. but yeah, if the issue is pressed, the jla speed is utterly impossible for the x-men--any incarnation, honestly--to overcome.

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Senor Cage
Seeing as Snyder has given us Pre-Crisis Superman back, there is no established X-Men team that can take the JL.

Snyder:

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I'm confused is he saying Superman will move suns and planets, or another "super-character" will?

DarkSaint85
Extinction, MAYBE Excalibur (with Longshot and Rachel).

spetznaz

Glorificus
I'd imagine it'd need to be a team of power-stackers/copiers. So people like Rogue who has absorbed Northstar, Magik, Namor, Colossus, Juggernaut, Emma Frost, Storm, etc.

Along with Mimic who has copied those above powers, and Hope who is copying those powers, etc.

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StyleTime
You all aren't thinking hard enough. The JLA would stomp most X-Teams obviously, but there are a few who could do it. You don't have to mix and match either.

I'll send a dick pic to whoever guesses the obvious one.

Senor Cage
Originally posted by StyleTime
You all aren't thinking hard enough. The JLA would stomp most X-Teams obviously, but there are a few who could do it. You don't have to mix and match either.

I'll send a dick pic to whoever guesses the obvious one.

The closest one I can think of is the 80's lineup with Magneto.

Smurph
In Uncanny #500, Scott and Emma broadcast to every mutant in the world and made them all X-Men... so, that line up probably has the best chance. Specifically for an in comic example, mutant nation on Utopia gives the best sense of that size of 'team'.

Especially if you can get enough people like Namor, Magneto, Magik, Moonstar (w Valkyrie powers), etc together just to slow an in-character Justice League lineup down enough to let Xavier, Emma, Psylocke, Exodus, Hope etc make one collective mental assault.

That's the clearest path to victory for an X-team. Obviously still far from certain though.

Delta1938
Originally posted by Smurph
In Uncanny #500, Scott and Emma broadcast to every mutant in the world and made them all X-Men...

Kinda an inverse of Superman beating Amazo.

Quick Freeze
Does Moonstar still have her Valkyrie powers? What's the status on that?

Senor Cage
^^ Are you using current Justice League? Most of the current JL have power boosts within the last year or two. Superman is stronger, Hal is the god of will, Diana used to be the goddess of war, etc...

Quick Freeze
Originally posted by Senor Cage
^^ Are you using current Justice League? Most of the current JL have power boosts within the last year or two. Superman is stronger, Hal is the god of will, Diana used to be the goddess of war, etc...

Well, I did not specify per se, but if a character is currently boosted for a several issue run, then I don't mean to consider that for this particular question.

I did say John Stewart because he is generally considered to have the strongest constructs, but I admittedly don't know what everyone's exact status is at this current moment. I also don't see how making the League any more godlike than they already are makes for an interesting convo lol

nwg202
Speed would be the biggest problem. Xmen need to slow them down for the telepath to do their work or for Magik to port them to limbo where I see a queen of fables setup happening to the jla

Senor Cage
Originally posted by Quick Freeze
Well, I did not specify per se, but if a character is currently boosted for a several issue run, then I don't mean to consider that for this particular question.

I did say John Stewart because he is generally considered to have the strongest constructs, but I admittedly don't know what everyone's exact status is at this current moment. I also don't see how making the League any more godlike than they already are makes for an interesting convo lol

I'd think Hal and Kyle have the strongest, most uber constructs. Kyle with Heaven's Ladder example and Hal being the God of will, who basically owned Zero Hour Parallax and Sinestro with the Parallax entity. Just use Hal pre god of will.

Quick Freeze
Originally posted by Senor Cage
I'd think Hal and Kyle have the strongest, most uber constructs. Kyle with Heaven's Ladder example and Hal being the God of will, who basically owned Zero Hour Parallax and Sinestro with the Parallax entity. Just use Hal pre god of will.

We're getting a bit into the abstract weeds here but I don't mean "strongest" as in "most uber" or most intricate, powerful concepts for constructs, but Hal once said something to the likes of John's being the most "solid" and that's what I mean/prefer as it is more straightforward to me. I don't mean/prefer "most godlike GL" as that is even more overkill imo

StiltmanFTW
Originally posted by Delta1938
Who's the one with the sword, and who is the robot?

Far better characters than Superman can ever hope to be thumb up

DarkSaint85
Originally posted by Quick Freeze
Is there any grouping of X-Men that can actually defeat:
Superman
Batman
Wonder Woman
Wally West
John Stewart
Martian Manhunter (non-jobber)

Yes.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/c/c3/Phoenix_Five_%28comics%29.jpg/220px-Phoenix_Five_%28comics%29.jpg

Deadline
Originally posted by nwg202
Speed would be the biggest problem. Xmen need to slow them down for the telepath to do their work or for Magik to port them to limbo where I see a queen of fables setup happening to the jla

Yea but I'm still thinking that Flash isn't going to start at FTL levels personality wise. I've seen lots of examples of Green lanterns being able to deal with the Flashes speed and you can't assume auto-shields. Since he doesn't start that fast that's enough foir somebody like Mags to put his shield up and then you got a problem.

DarkSaint85
How fast do you see a ready to fight Flash?

StiltmanFTW
^ Half the speed of Captain America on his bad day, 1/3 speed of the Punisher when Frank's gravely injured

Delta1938
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Far better characters than Superman can ever hope to be thumb up

Your mother wasn't complaining.

StiltmanFTW
Sorry, she's never been into cucks like Clark.

https://tinyurl.com/y338b5g3

https://tinyurl.com/yasgtp74

Delta1938
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Sorry, she's never been into cucks like Clark.

https://tinyurl.com/y338b5g3

https://tinyurl.com/yasgtp74

So she must be disappointed in the way you turned out. And she tried raising you better. For shame Stilt, for shame.

StiltmanFTW
You're projecting again. Some things never change.

https://tinyurl.com/yyghjqjf

One Big Mob
Originally posted by Senor Cage
The closest one I can think of is the 80's lineup with Magneto. Golgz willing to immediately say an old X-Men team might beat the JLA. Dang, he really wants that dick pic! thumb up

Philosophía
Magneto solos.

So any team with Magneto in it.

Delta1938
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
You're projecting again. Some things never change.

https://tinyurl.com/yyghjqjf

So, is it just my phone or did your attempt to post an image fail? But we see you're too interested in bulges.....and I'm the one projecting.

StiltmanFTW
It shows up fine. Unlike your signature, which has been broken for years now.

You can beg Pope Carver to fix it once he comes back. Just don't expect him to remove the parental control feature.

Delta1938
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
It shows up fine. Unlike your signature, which has been broken for years now.

You can beg Pope Carver to fix it once he comes back. Just don't expect him to remove the parental control feature.

Screenshot it then.

I see you didn't deny your borderline obsession with bulges. When Pope Caver returns you must see him for confession.

StiltmanFTW
Pope Carver knows me inside and out, dear child.

StyleTime
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Yes.

https://i.postimg.cc/rFfrpbdM/Phoenix5.jpg

thumb up Knew I could count on you, although I edited in the pic I prefer. Sending dick pic. The Phoenix Five are an offical lineup of X-Men. If you need a sixth, Hope was also on their squad for a time.

https://postimg.cc/KkbCn8cN

So was Magneto. And Xavier. And Nate. Legion technically too.
Originally posted by Smurph
In Uncanny #500, Scott and Emma broadcast to every mutant in the world and made them all X-Men... so, that line up probably has the best chance. Specifically for an in comic example, mutant nation on Utopia gives the best sense of that size of 'team'.

Especially if you can get enough people like Namor, Magneto, Magik, Moonstar (w Valkyrie powers), etc together just to slow an in-character Justice League lineup down enough to let Xavier, Emma, Psylocke, Exodus, Hope etc make one collective mental assault.

That's the clearest path to victory for an X-team. Obviously still far from certain though.
This is the other thing I was thinking of, so you get a dick pic too. People forget just how wildly the X-Roster changed after M-Day. They were desperate, so most remaining mutants are X-Men. Hope, Legion, Magneto, and Xavier were all fighting together during Second Coming, for example. You could just do a Build-a-Hope game if you wanted.

And of course, we could go full forum-tard with some characters. Teen Jean was just a psychic energy entity before she left,

https://postimg.cc/gwkb5K6h
https://postimg.cc/KRBbgj21
https://postimg.cc/HrtCBNjH

so MMH(possibly Lantern) would have to fight her, but she amps off psychic energy to seemingly abstract levels. And Blair Wind Iceman. shifty

Damborgson
How is Superman against psychic attacks ?

OP I Assume, but how would he fair if say Emma Frost and the Cuckoos decided to have a go at him?

Senor Cage
God of Will Hal could take Phoenix. Not sure the Phoenix Five alone could take out the JL.

skyrider
Phoenix 5 would stomp the JLA.

Senor Cage
Definitely not current JL. The op lineup, maybe.

"Id"
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Yes.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/c/c3/Phoenix_Five_%28comics%29.jpg/220px-Phoenix_Five_%28comics%29.jpg
The Penis 5 Fornicates them.

Genii96
Phoenix 5
Extinction team maybe with hope mimicing the JLA
The classic X-Men team with Phoenix Jean grey

abhilegend
Originally posted by Damborgson
How is Superman against psychic attacks ?

OP I Assume, but how would he fair if say Emma Frost and the Cuckoos decided to have a go at him?
Depends, as example Superman in rebirth straight up overpowered Parallax entity trying to control him and Parallax had to make him agree to control Superman's body to control him.

It's really depending on the writer however.

DarkSaint85
Originally posted by StyleTime
thumb up Knew I could count on you, although I edited in the pic I prefer. Sending dick pic. The Phoenix Five are an offical lineup of X-Men. If you need a sixth, Hope was also on their squad for a time.

https://postimg.cc/KkbCn8cN

So was Magneto. And Xavier. And Nate. Legion technically too.

This is the other thing I was thinking of, so you get a dick pic too. People forget just how wildly the X-Roster changed after M-Day. They were desperate, so most remaining mutants are X-Men. Hope, Legion, Magneto, and Xavier were all fighting together during Second Coming, for example. You could just do a Build-a-Hope game if you wanted.

And of course, we could go full forum-tard with some characters. Teen Jean was just a psychic energy entity before she left,

https://postimg.cc/gwkb5K6h
https://postimg.cc/KRBbgj21
https://postimg.cc/HrtCBNjH

so MMH(possibly Lantern) would have to fight her, but she amps off psychic energy to seemingly abstract levels. And Blair Wind Iceman. shifty

My pic has Hope in it thumb up. And thanks for the dick pic,new phone wallpaper.

Quick Freeze
Originally posted by StyleTime
thumb up Knew I could count on you, although I edited in the pic I prefer. Sending dick pic. The Phoenix Five are an offical lineup of X-Men. If you need a sixth, Hope was also on their squad for a time.

https://postimg.cc/KkbCn8cN

So was Magneto. And Xavier. And Nate. Legion technically too.

This is the other thing I was thinking of, so you get a dick pic too. People forget just how wildly the X-Roster changed after M-Day. They were desperate, so most remaining mutants are X-Men. Hope, Legion, Magneto, and Xavier were all fighting together during Second Coming, for example. You could just do a Build-a-Hope game if you wanted.

And of course, we could go full forum-tard with some characters. Teen Jean was just a psychic energy entity before she left,

https://postimg.cc/gwkb5K6h
https://postimg.cc/KRBbgj21
https://postimg.cc/HrtCBNjH

so MMH(possibly Lantern) would have to fight her, but she amps off psychic energy to seemingly abstract levels. And Blair Wind Iceman. shifty

Aw snap forgot about BW Iceman, but how does he stack up against KMC Flash?

darthgoober
The fact that John's considered one of the big 6 of the League rather than Hal has me wondering, are we talking about the comic book version of the team or the JLU version?

Quick Freeze
Originally posted by darthgoober
The fact that John's considered one of the big 6 of the League rather than Hal has me wondering, are we talking about the comic book version of the team or the JLU version?

DCnU

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