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Who win?

One above all in Marvel isn't actually as powerful as we might have thought he was funnily enough.

One has created a multiverse, another has created Hulk.

Tough decision.

Originally posted by abhilegend
One has created a multiverse, another has created Hulk.

Tough decision.
Yeah.
TOBA is said to be equivalent of GEB in Marvel despite that TOBA doesn't have any feats to prove it

World Forger curbstomps

Originally posted by CatL18
Yeah.
TOBA is said to be equivalent of GEB in Marvel despite that TOBA doesn't have any feats to prove it

So the point of this thread was to teach us about how weak TOBA is?

Originally posted by Stoic
So the point of this thread was to teach us about how weak TOBA is?
No.
I know little about TOBA.
So, i want to know how powerful TOBA is and how TOBA is compare to WF.

Bump

If the one below all eats WF, not saying he can but if he does, will WF reform in the 6th dimension?

Originally posted by MrMind
World Forger curbstomps

One Below All

Originally posted by Diesldude
If the one below all eats WF, not saying he can but if he does, will WF reform in the 6th dimension?

it's too hard to depict the first part of your sentence. even in carver's wildest imagination TOBA is a gnat compared to WF

Originally posted by MrMind
it's too hard to depict the first part of your sentence. even in carver's wildest imagination TOBA is a gnat compared to WF

This is true, TOBA breaks his jaw trying to eat WF.

TOBA, WF is a jobber to characters that TOBA wouldn't even notice.

Originally posted by JBL
TOBA, WF is a jobber to characters that TOBA wouldn't even notice.

dur

What are toba feats, people?

JBL has them somewhere...

WF wins.

Originally posted by carver9
One Below All Based on?

His fee fees

Originally posted by lawest9
Based on?

His power.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Eh, I wouldn't say that, but Carver is probably referring to this:

"As Above, so Below":
https://i.postimg.cc/285jVx4X/RCO016-1582352588.jpg

Note, however, that TOBA needs a host personality to function on the living plane. A constraint TOAA should never EVER have.

Originally posted by abhilegend
One has created a multiverse, another has created Hulk.

Tough decision.

honestly,right now, current TOAA==Perpetua/DM, well thats my opinion..

if anyone can prove that TOBA IS == TOAA, then he wins, but I have no knowledge about that, and WF wins this for me..

Yeah, no one has proven that TOBA = TOAA, apart from their names. It's like saying you'd get eye damage from a torch - then argue you'd also get damage from darkness, lol.

is TOBA really that powerful if hes only universal? I say universal because marvel announced (read a news in KMC) that the 2099 is the main timeline, soo that means the timeline where TOBA eats everything is only in that timeline/universe.

Yeah but the while 8th Cosmos thing occurs in a non canon reality.

So we still have no proof that TOBA = TOAA, let alone more powerful. The fact that he needs a puppet to open a door, when TOAA needs no such thing, means he's not that powerful.

TOBA is around Eternity level.

Marvel 2099 is the canon future.

As for who said it needs a puppet? Read the scan above. Plus, your own writing. Read point one. Why doesn't it just open the door itself?

What battle feats does he have?

Writer interviews are inadmissible. But I can tell you haven't changed Bazie.

Take care.

See you're still calling me that name. A wise man once told me to let others believe what they wanna believe

https://i.postimg.cc/YvbJwV3x/yhv.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/Q9LSLkRb/wes.jpg

^ they are one and that they really equally in power because they are the same being.. both have to work 50/50 and 50+50 =100 which mean they really are one. the one above cannot erase the one below all. I don't make these things up my guy

I couldve sworn TOBA have interacted with people outside of having a host. I feel confident it have happened.

So TOBA is featless. Thanks.

Originally posted by carver9
I couldve sworn TOBA have interacted with people outside of having a host. I feel confident it have happened.

https://i.postimg.cc/44cYX2NB/RCO004-1603882181.jpg

#DSwasright

TOBA stomps

Mindless TOBA is mindless.

I can see why carver likes it.

We know it's Multiversal in scope as far as the below place goes. But like the TOAA, it interacts very rarely with the MCU.

My instinct says the TOBA would be the anti-thesis of the TOAA and should technically be powerful than anything else aside from supreme beings. But not enough info at the moment.

equal to supreme beings?

TOAA cannot fix a regulator that created instabilities in a single reality

Originally posted by MrMind
equal to supreme beings?

TOAA cannot fix a regulator that created instabilities in a single reality

A plot contrived issue for Thanos to have a chance. The TOAA was supposed to be supreme in reality period, not in a well-functioning one. That implies a power greater than his.

I guess Jack Kirby is > TOAA then.

Best to wait and see. Making any hard claims could result in embarrassment and sore butt affliction.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Writer interviews are inadmissible. But I can tell you haven't changed Bazie.

Take care.

Originally posted by -Pr-
If a writer gives an interview that supports something that happened on panel, then it's usually all right as supplementary evidence.

Except in THIS thread, its not supported by the comics.

Poor analogy, and I know you wet yourself when you read it lol, but not applicable here, alas.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Except in THIS thread, its not supported by the comics.

Poor analogy, and I know you wet yourself when you read it lol, but not applicable here, alas.

Sure it is. And where do you see an analogy?

How is it supported?

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
How is it supported?

That TOBA is the other side of the coin? That's implied throughout. You made the assertion though. And where is an analogy?

Originally posted by TheHulkster
That TOBA is the other side of the coin? That's implied throughout. You made the assertion though. And where is an analogy?

Oh, no I said that TOBA isn't equal to TOAA in POWER. And I said that TOBA needed a puppet to act through on the 616 plane.

Albert asserted the reverse. And used interviews to bolster his stance.

So if you have scans supporting his stance, that TOBA = TOAA in power, and that TOBA doesn't need a puppet, then sure, his interviews are admissible, as they are backed up by comics. Implications? Nah. I never argued that TOAA and TOBA weren't other sides of the coin. I argued power levels, as TOAA doesn't need a puppet, but TOBA does. As my comic scans obviously are at odds with....whatever interviews Albert used, we can't use the interviews.

You obviously don't know what's being argued.

Originally posted by TheHulkster
Sure it is. And where do you see an analogy?

This

https://i.postimg.cc/ZnW9Tmb3/snip.jpg

Originally posted by carver9
One Below All Based off?

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Oh, no I said that TOBA isn't equal to TOAA in POWER. And I said that TOBA needed a puppet to act through on the 616 plane.

Albert asserted the reverse. And used interviews to bolster his stance.

So if you have scans supporting his stance, that TOBA = TOAA in power, and that TOBA doesn't need a puppet, then sure, his interviews are admissible, as they are backed up by comics. Implications? Nah. I never argued that TOAA and TOBA weren't other sides of the coin. I argued power levels, as TOAA doesn't need a puppet, but TOBA does. As my comic scans obviously are at odds with....whatever interviews Albert used, we can't use the interviews.

You obviously don't know what's being argued.

Alberto asserts that TOBA is a mirror and that being a mirror implies equality. The writer makes a statement that supports Alberto's first assertion and Alberto's first assertion is supported by the book. Thus the statement should meet the guidelines for usage. The debatable part of whether TOAA and TOBA are equals in power is not addressed by the statement, therefore not making it a violation of the rules from the standpoint of writer making statement that is not supported in book.

Plus, you made a general, overarching statement that writer statements are inadmissible which apparently they are not. Their inadmissibility depends on factors. So your statement was inaccurate along with you not knowing the definition of "analogy".

Originally posted by TheHulkster
Alberto asserts that TOBA is a mirror and that being a mirror implies equality. The writer makes a statement that supports Alberto's first assertion and Alberto's first assertion is supported by the book. Thus the statement should meet the guidelines for usage. The debatable part of whether TOAA and TOBA are equals in power is not addressed by the statement, therefore not making it a violation of the rules from the standpoint of writer making statement that is not supported in book.

Plus, you made a general, overarching statement that writer statements are inadmissible which apparently they are not. Their inadmissibility depends on factors. So your statement was inaccurate along with you not knowing the definition of "analogy".

My very first comment on the subject:



My second:


Albert's use of interviews was to support his statement that TOBA DIDN'T need a host to work through. This is not true - as my multiple scans showed. Thus, the book does not jive with the interview.

So it is not analogous at all to the thread you posted your Pr quote from - and as I said, the writer interview is not admissible

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
My very first comment on the subject:



My second:


Albert's use of interviews was to support his statement that TOBA DIDN'T need a host to work through. This is not true - as my multiple scans showed. Thus, the book does not jive with the interview.

So it is not analogous at all to the thread you posted your Pr quote from - and as I said, the writer interview is not admissible

I wasn't comparing threads, I posted a quote. I made no analogy.

The book does jibe with the statement. He doesn't discuss whether or not TOBA needs a host or not.

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
See you're still calling me that name. A wise man once told me to let others believe what they wanna believe

https://i.postimg.cc/YvbJwV3x/yhv.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/Q9LSLkRb/wes.jpg

^ they are one and that they really equally in power because they are the same being.. both have to work 50/50 and 50+50 =100 which mean they really are one. the one above cannot erase the one below all. I don't make these things up my guy

He resorts to such name calling when he's struggling, which is often.

Originally posted by TheHulkster
I wasn't comparing threads, I posted a quote. I made no analogy.

The book does jibe with the statement. He doesn't discuss whether or not TOBA needs a host or not.

Analogy = comparison.

https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/analogy

https://www.dictionary.com/browse/analogy

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/analogy

Pr's quote has nothing to do with this thread, as the circumstances are different.

https://i.postimg.cc/Kvf8SMrQ/quote.jpg

Albert specifically discusses whether it needs a host or not.

Originally posted by TheHulkster
He resorts to such name calling when he's struggling, which is often.

Oh? I called him Bazie, as a reference to his previous username on here.

Originally posted by TheHulkster
He resorts to such name calling when he's struggling, which is often.

Its like he thinks bashing people make his argument more solid. It just shows how immature he is.

@Hulkster, I don't TAKE saint serious. The dude is as much of a clown as abhi. He came back a thread after several months from getting debunked to say "HAh SuCk it AlBeRTo!" Let him have it

Originally posted by carver9
Its like he thinks bashing people make his argument more solid. It just shows how immature he is.

How is calling someone Bazie bashing? Is it insulting? I mean, insulting is this:

https://i.postimg.cc/ZnW9Tmb3/snip.jpg

Conceptually the one below all is great.

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
@Hulkster, I don't TAKE saint serious. The dude is as much of a clown as abhi. He came back a thread after several months from getting debunked to say "HAh SuCk it AlBeRTo!" Let him have it


Idiot.

What name is "Nemo" short for?

Originally posted by TheHulkster
You PMed me asking me if I reported a certain poster and then told me that that was uncalled for. You made no mention of anyone cursing anyone's mom. Your statement reads as if you were telling me that reporting this person was uncalled for. I searched the name you gave and it pulled up someone who hasn't posted since 2007. I had no idea what you were talking about.

Did you express this in the thread you reference? Was it closed or something? The DC fanboys here insulting player's families is nothing new.

You shouild've ignored his pms, dude is legitimately weird, How anybody take him serious is completely beyond me