Marvel abstracts vs New Gods
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AlbertoJohnAvil
Marvel abstracts (pictured) vs The New Gods.
Random encounter
https://i.postimg.cc/m1QTzDwX/abs.jpg
https://i.postimg.cc/yJkBhnjS/nds.jpg
ShadowFyre
In before "Everything in DC is infinitely more powerful than anything in Marvel. " Marvel cosmic is like DC street level, why? No reason, we just think our multiverse is more important because Superman, blah blah blah"
Adam Grimes
Are Marvel entities only relevant in the 3D? Does that make DC's inherently more powerful?
lawest9
Base off of the characters I see in the marvel thumbnail, this is spite in favor of Marvel.
DarkSaint85
I'd ask Spacebattles, tbh
One_Angry_Scot
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
I'd ask Spacebattles, tbh
https://i.imgur.com/vPPGqT5.png
I'd ask Spacebattles, tbh
AlbertoJohnAvil
lol I think it's debatable
Spectre cannot defeat New God's, Why because they're out of Creation which he has Authority over, being God's Wrath.
https://i.postimg.cc/qNNZY6C9/specl.jpg
operator616
Marvel abstracts stomp.
AlbertoJohnAvil
Originally posted by operator616
Marvel abstracts stomp.
it's arguable they win, but not "stomp"
In the 4Th world which is not to be mistaken as a Universe or part of Time and Space as it Existed before and transcends, Eternity is but a Pool on New Genesis.....
https://i.postimg.cc/hhjmBLpZ/ets.jpg
https://i.postimg.cc/MfQKGpcH/scla.jpg
Here probably a scan y'all never seen, we have HighFather and Metron standing Separate from Existence but viewing it in a Room as Pools once again.
So not only is (Eternity, existence, Reality) in a Pool on New Genesis we have another showing of them Viewing Existence from A place separated.
They Transcends Time, Space, Existence
https://i.postimg.cc/BPHLVgBm/ebo.jpg
https://i.postimg.cc/CnSSwsVP/fuy.jpg
https://i.postimg.cc/HJ1pSgh1/3lsa.jpg
The way to beat Darkseid is to Be More Evil than he is, The per God of DC rules. That's why The Spectre Disintegrated him and he instantly reformed, because He Is not more Evil than Darkseid and the Source needs Good and Evil because God is All good and evil.
Darkseid Darkness of Source
HighFather Light of Source
operator616
I don't see the relevance of your scans. Why on earth would you think that just because they live outside of space/time (a well known fact since their inception) that somehow makes them remotely comparable to marvel abstracts?
AlbertoJohnAvil
Originally posted by operator616
I don't see the relevance of your scans. Why on earth would you think that just because they live outside of space/time (a well known fact since their inception) that somehow makes them remotely comparable to marvel abstracts?
that's not the point of the scan
https://i.postimg.cc/MfQKGpcH/scla.jpg
check the part one of this scan
DarkSaint85
What does Spacebattles say?
AlbertoJohnAvil
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
What does Spacebattles say?
what about it
DarkSaint85
There's no need to be abrupt with me
operator616
Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
that's not the point of the scan
https://i.postimg.cc/MfQKGpcH/scla.jpg
check the part one of this scan
Ive read that arc and im still not sure what your point is. Especially with you posting the pre-Crisis New gods who were weak af. Literally 3 flash rogues (who were not even heralds -- they're metas) beat them all. Back then they were really weak sauce. There was that one New gods arc in the 90s which portrayed them as uber powerful, and then not until Morrison did they become conceptual entities. Yes, back then they had a pool to view events around the cosmos, is that supposed to be impressive?
AlbertoJohnAvil
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
There's no need to be abrupt with me
Yes I have accounts on that site, why is it relevant
DarkSaint85
I have a device that enables me to see things in the US, WHILST IM OUTSIDE THE US.
That makes me more powerful than the entirety of the United States of America

AlbertoJohnAvil
Originally posted by operator616
Ive read that arc and im still not sure what your point is. Especially with you posting the pre-Crisis New gods who were weak af. Literally 3 flash rogues (who were not even heralds -- they're metas) beat them all. Back then they were really weak sauce. There was that one New gods arc in the 90s which portrayed them as uber powerful, and then not until Morrison did they become conceptual entities. Yes, back then they had a pool to view events around the cosmos, is that supposed to be impressive?
...Did you just say back in the day new gods were "weak asf"
Can you back that notion up? that's a bold statement
I could show you a dozen scans that says otherwise
operator616
Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
...Did you just say back in the day new gods were "weak asf"
Can you back that notion up? that's a bold statement
I could show you a dozen scans that says otherwise
I just did in the posted you quoted (flash rogues). And they never did anything impressive back then, it's only in the post-Crisis continuity (pretty late as well) did they begin to be potrayed as powerful. What makes you think otherwise?
And honestly, im not interested in going on a lowballing spree, everyone who has read up on the new gods would agree that they were portrayed later to be much more powerful than they're used to. If you think otherwise, you should read up on them.
AlbertoJohnAvil
Originally posted by operator616
I just did in the posted you quoted (flash rogues). And they never did anything impressive back then, it's only in the post-Crisis continuity (pretty late as well) did they begin to be potrayed as powerful. What makes you think otherwise?
And honestly, im not interested in going on a lowballing spree, everyone who has read up on the new gods would agree that they were portrayed later to be much more powerful than they're used to. If you think otherwise, you should read up on them.
cool, I'll post the scans soon that says otherwise.
DarkSaint85
"Once someone else posts them for me on Spacebattles" lmao
AlbertoJohnAvil
This is just one example btw
There's another showing of a New God creating And What looks to be positioning Galaxies.
Remember because this is New Genesis And the 4th world, the Universe and Galaxy being created and shown here is definitely what we'd consider Normal size to us, because There they dwarf the universe in size.
https://i.postimg.cc/w700jJrb/pbloj.jpg
Galan007
Wasn't sure if I should post this here or on Spacebattles, but it'll end up there either way, so...
That scan is from Mister Miracle v3 #1. Same issue where Mister Miracle notes that the New Gods were "creating twisted universes".
...But it's POST-crisis, like operator said.
AlbertoJohnAvil
Originally posted by Galan007
Wasn't sure if I should post this here or on Spacebattles, but it'll end up there either way, so...
That scan is from Mister Miracle v3 #1. Same issue where Mister Miracle notes that the New Gods were "creating twisted universes".
...But it's POST-crisis, like operator said.
I know where it's from. that was just to show how powerful they truly are
AlbertoJohnAvil
Originally posted by operator616
I just did in the posted you quoted (flash rogues). And they never did anything impressive back then, it's only in the post-Crisis continuity (pretty late as well) did they begin to be potrayed as powerful. What makes you think otherwise?
And honestly, im not interested in going on a lowballing spree, everyone who has read up on the new gods would agree that they were portrayed later to be much more powerful than they're used to. If you think otherwise, you should read up on them.
everybody has low showings though lol
AlbertoJohnAvil
Let me ask you something operator , are the new gods above the multiverse.
yes or no?
AlbertoJohnAvil
Apok and New Genesis legit have affect on all universes. HighFather and Darkseid are legit the Balance of the Source.
https://i.postimg.cc/cvx37rbn/lego.jpg
https://i.postimg.cc/sQhGfSvt/bals.jpg
AlbertoJohnAvil
It took a Multiversal punch by Alan Scott to Even Hurt an Avatar of Darkseid lol
https://i.postimg.cc/HrKY290R/mutl.jpg
This is the Multiverse this is Eternity in DC comics. Infinite Universes Exist there but they focus on the 52 discovered Earth's.
https://i.postimg.cc/tZ4B4WwR/muol.jpg
carver9
Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
It took a Multiversal punch by Alan Scott to Even Hurt an Avatar of Darkseid lol
https://i.postimg.cc/HrKY290R/mutl.jpg
This is the Multiverse this is Eternity in DC comics. Infinite Universes Exist there but they focus on the 52 discovered Earth's.
https://i.postimg.cc/tZ4B4WwR/muol.jpg
That wasnt an avatar.
AlbertoJohnAvil
Originally posted by carver9
That wasnt an avatar.
Yea it was. Multiversity already revealed it was.
They have Avatars that Exist throughout the Multiverse, many forms of their true selves. Again these are The New God's Existing in the Celestial city outside Reality time space, viewing Eternity through a Pool.
https://i.postimg.cc/grmPWTgm/god.jpg
abhilegend
Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
This is just one example btw
There's another showing of a New God creating And What looks to be positioning Galaxies.
Remember because this is New Genesis And the 4th world, the Universe and Galaxy being created and shown here is definitely what we'd consider Normal size to us, because There they dwarf the universe in size.
https://i.postimg.cc/w700jJrb/pbloj.jpg
Where is a galaxy there?
And why the bipolar mood swings towards DC now?
AlbertoJohnAvil
Originally posted by abhilegend
Where is a galaxy there?
And why the bipolar mood swings towards DC now?

Where did you get I was a marvel fanboy in the first place? Just because I CORRECT you on dc stuff consistently doesn't mean i hate it
New gods are extremely underrated that's all
BrolyBlack
Spite city
A single abstract could wreck all those dip shits
abhilegend
Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil

Where did you get I was a marvel fanboy in the first place? Just because I CORRECT you on dc stuff consistently doesn't mean i hate it
New gods are extremely underrated that's all
You correct me? Dude, you copy paste my posts on spacebattles.
AlbertoJohnAvil
Originally posted by abhilegend
You correct me? Dude, you copy paste my posts on spacebattles.

didn't feel like entertaining your "5th dIMnesIon is AbOVe Source WaLl" nonsense
don't worry next time I'll debunk you on my own like the usual

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