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Well going to Netflix is a good sign - Think Daredevil and Punisher.

If it was on the DC Streaming service it would be cancelled before pilot is out.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
Well going to Netflix is a good sign - Think Daredevil and Punisher.

If it was on the DC Streaming service it would be cancelled before pilot is out.

The streaming service has put out some quality shows. The 3rd season of Young Justice and of course Doom Patrol, which is better in quality than any tv show Marvel has produced.

At this stage I'm not sure the streaming service has much original content on it besides the shows I mentioned plus Titans.

This could be really good if done right.

....But it could also be painfully bad if they don't do it justice.

https://www.comicbookmovie.com/tv/dc/netflix-to-adapt-neil-gaimans-sandman-will-be-dc-entertainments-most-expensive-tv-show-yet-a169217

Originally posted by Surtur
The streaming service has put out some quality shows. The 3rd season of Young Justice and of course Doom Patrol, which is better in quality than any tv show Marvel has produced.

At this stage I'm not sure the streaming service has much original content on it besides the shows I mentioned plus Titans.


Was a joke (sort of) after what happened to Swamp Thing. Point is its not a secure platform.

Also I couldnt get through Young Justice S3. Was way too slow Imo.

And I really enjoyed the first 2 seasons.

Holy shit, that's fantastic news! Hopefully they don't mess it up

In a recent interview with Gaiman, he assured fans that this adaptation would remain faithful in spirit to the source material, and that it would also follow the comics' story properly.

...So that's good.

Yeah but American Gods became horribly bad.

Never watched that one.

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We need more of this.

https://www.whats-on-netflix.com/news/the-sandman-season-1-cast-revealed/?fbclid=IwAR1_dW5asI2OKSWxsLvZR3L6vk-U96F0fICoxLrJJevB6m6EQgVxCARUfvw

I tried Lucifier, but it became stale to me after 7-8 eps.

I can see Gwendoline Christie as an androgynous Satan, if they go that path.

might watch just will wait and see

Originally posted by Darth Thor
Well going to Netflix is a good sign - Think Daredevil and Punisher.

If it was on the DC Streaming service it would be cancelled before pilot is out.

Only if it cost them 90 mil to make a season (ah la swamp thing)

We're closing in on two years since this announcement. Wtf are they doing with this show?

I'm looking forward to seeing how they handle all the DC characters too. That has to be a minefield to navigate. Who will they use for Constantine or Superman? IMO I think I'd rather this show just use original casting for them all and be an alternate universe instead of using movie/show versions of characters (as fantastic as Matt Ryans Constantine is; there's also the JJ Abrams HBO show version that's in development which makes this even more complicated).

I'm fine with gender swapping. I just want good actors and even better writing.

I'm genuinely anxious to see who is cast as Death.

Major casting update!

https://www.avclub.com/netflix-casts-sandman-s-death-desire-and-constantine-1846975288

I utterly baffled as to why they felt it necessary to include the pronouns of the characters.

Also, I hate Patton Oswalt.

It's a trend now I think, I see it on Zoom meetings where it reads something like "Jon Smith (He/Him)" below the person.

David Thewlis is a solid actor.

I miht watch but i hope there is a ton of nudity

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Looks decent. Better than expected at least.

Originally posted by Impediment
VBXqrBl6pEo Doesn't look like Pete Murphy or Robert Smith enough.

Originally posted by Impediment
Major casting update!

https://www.avclub.com/netflix-casts-sandman-s-death-desire-and-constantine-1846975288

I utterly baffled as to why they felt it necessary to include the pronouns of the characters.

Also, I hate Patton Oswalt. Desire was always him/her same with despair Imp. It's not new, but it is different to how it was.

Everything we know, so far:

https://www.whats-on-netflix.com/news/netflixs-the-sandman-everything-we-know-so-far-12-2021/

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Not sold... we'll see. Lucius?

Visuals look nice. I'm cautiously optimistic.

That preview didn't do much for me. Still giving it a shot though.

dunno if i wanna pay 20 bucks/month just for this but its a possibility

When does this come on so I can bring back Netflix

Late August.

Originally posted by Impediment
Late August.



thanks matt

Still not sure how I feel about ANY changes to the original comic here, but I will STILL watch.

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Looks great.

LotR, HoD, and Sandman. A lot of fantasy series coming out in the next two months. Hopefully at least one of them is good...

Originally posted by Impediment
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Still this:
Originally posted by Robtard
That preview didn't do much for me. Still giving it a shot though.

Originally posted by Impediment
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Guy read more Sandman comics than I but I'll give this a watch

Tonight... we will know!

Episode 1 of the Sandman was pretty solid and very faithful to the source material. I think this may be the first good adaptation of a Vertigo title.

8.5

I'm two episodes in. So far, pretty damn good and faithful to the broader strokes of the comic. I'm enjoying it. Disappointed in no classic Constantine though.

Starting ep 1. Now.

i'm 9 episodes deep so far.

they're really all-in with establishing the overall homosexual, transgender, minority, and matriarchy aspects of this series, as most of the key players have been "retconned" (or added) into one of the above...... which is fine, but it just doesnt mesh with the source material at all. so based on that alone, i expect the show to get rave reviews.

that being said; it has been pretty good so far. the guy who plays dream is perfect for the role.

Originally posted by DeadpoolXXX
i'm 9 episodes deep so far.

they're really all-in with establishing the overall homosexual, transgender, minority, and matriarchy aspects of this series, as most of the key players have been "retconned" (or added) into one of the above...... which is fine, but it just doesnt mesh with the source material at all. so based on that alone, i expect the show to get rave reviews.

that being said; it has been pretty good so far. the guy who plays dream is perfect for the role. The source material was full of homosexuality and transgenderism.

Had nothing going on today, so I binged the entire series.

It was pretty damn good up to episode 6(and I really enjoyed ep.6), but took a sharp decline after that, imo... I wasn't a fan of the "Vortex" plot at all.

I also enjoyed the episode where Dream goes to Hell in search of his helm, as a bunch of that dialogue came directly from the comics.


...But yeah, after ep.6 I just kind of checked out.

I've only watched two eps so far, Never read the comic and i'm enjoying it.

Darn, I hadn't heard that. TBH, that's fine. The other DC characters were never the point of the comic, which is something I always appreciated. I've just always been starved for good Constantine. He was trash in the movie, and the offshoot of him in Doom Patrol also missed the mark. Matt Ryan was fantastic (if kind of wasted) but with arrow gone and The Flash ending, his take is coming to an end too probably. I just want a good take on Constantine. Whatever though.

I like this guys Dream, but his voice feels off. Too booming. I always imagined Dream speaking in softer tones. I also wish they gave him paler skin. He looks pretty pink in some scenes, like a normal human. Corinthian is great so far though, so I'm excited to see more of him.

I know it's to be expected since they have limited time, but I'm disappointed none of the one off stories are being adapted. Just the main story. The one offs are some of the best in the comic IMO.

Also, not a fan of Oswalt. Never have been.

NF Sandman is not my Sandman.

My least favorite episode is 5.

24 Hour Diner is a magnificent issue and the episode failed to capture the magic of it.

Not terrible, but not great as it should have been.

Originally posted by Impediment
My least favorite episode is 5.

24 Hour Diner is a magnificent issue and the episode failed to capture the magic of it.

Not terrible, but not great as it should have been. yeah, I watched it today its the last episode I watched for exactly that reason.

how many episodes because im gonna watch a little later

okay so watched the first 6 episodes. It's fun hearing them speak in their natural accents. I've liked what I've seen but must confess I don;t know much about the characters since I really didn't the comics. Guy did as I think he'd prolly like this.

just one question.. What the frack was episode 5??

Trying to force myself to not watch it all at once (it just feels like I've waited to long for it to rush). Having said that watched 4 eps Friday and 3 today so not much more to go.

Loving it so far. It's everything I'd hoped it would be. Ep 5 felt a little laboured for what should have been a great episode. Death in 6 felt perfect. Lucifer was solid, Desire and despair feel pretty right. Dream is good and the Corinthian freaking awesome. Not completely sold on Rose just yet but it's early days for her (she may grow on me)

Five episodes in and so far I've felt that it's fine. It isn't great nor is it a dumpster fire, it's merely competent television which I suppose is quite an accomplishment nowadays considering the trash most of these streaming services are pumping out.

Unfortunately, from what I've heard, the final four episodes shit the bed. I guess we'll see.

As for episode 5, I really liked it. I thought it was a very good episode even if it doesn't hold a candle to the comic. Episode 4 was a bit of a let down though. Gwendoline Christie was horribly miscast as Lucifer. And, yes, Patton Oswalt is terrible.

I've seen the whole series now. Six is the high point as Galan said earlier. Tbh, the only episode that came near to doing the source material justice. It captured the comic... almost. Martin Tenbones looked great and seeing he and Barbie made me smile Lucifer as Ares says I'd terrible casting. I think a gant widow Twanky is honestly an awful choice. It was all too Pantomime. Losing Funlands speech about "Disney" and being the friendly giant, was a poor choice, the change from Brute and Glob worked well for me. Hob Gadling was perfect, the girl who played death didnt look like Tori Amos, but she did a good job and captured the character. Desire and Despair did not work for me at all. I thought Thewliss did his best in five and i agree with Imp it wasn't claustrophic or dark enough. It needed the narrator approach of the comic and the time of events as in the comic imho to get that. The guy playing Dream is a bit shit too imho, he doesnt project otherworldlyness or majesty

Ep.6 was the best episode of the series, by far. It was very well-done.

I'm still somewhat on the fence about Gwendoline as Lucifer. She didn't get much screentime at all, so I'm willing to give her the benefit of the doubt... But even so, she still did a lackluster job at portraying the Gaiman/Carey iteration of Lucifer(from the comics) that I was hoping for. Though in all fairness, that'd be a hard task for most actors to pull off, given that Lucifer is one of the best comic characters ever written. I felt the guy who played Dream at least did a better job with the role, even if he still wasn't perfect by any means -- if Gwendoline could at least get to that level with Lucifer, I'd be happier.

Anyway, I expect that Gwendoline will get a lot more screentime next season(I'm assuming there will be a season 2?), given that the end of S01 set the stage for a "Season of Mists" adaptation... So hopefully she changes up her characterization quite a bit for the better. Although that is probably my favorite arc of the comic series, so I'd still be hypercritical and biased regardless. /shrug

Originally posted by Galan007
Ep.6 was the best episode of the series, by far. It was very well-done.

I'm still somewhat on the fence about Gwendoline as Lucifer. She didn't get much screentime at all, so I'm willing to give her the benefit of the doubt... But even so, she still did a lackluster job at portraying the Gaiman/Carey iteration of Lucifer(from the comics) that I was hoping for. Though in all fairness, that'd be a hard task for most actors to pull off, given that Lucifer is one of the best comic characters ever written. I felt the guy who played Dream at least did a better job with the role, even if he still wasn't perfect by any means -- if Gwendoline could at least get to that level with Lucifer, I'd be happier.

Anyway, I expect that Gwendoline will get a lot more screentime next season(I'm assuming there will be a season 2?), given that the end of S01 set the stage for a "Season of Mists" adaptation... So hopefully she changes up her characterization quite a bit for the better. Although that is probably my favorite arc of the comic series, so I'd still be hypercritical and biased regardless. /shrug Yup, seasons of the mist is next up. I think it did enough for a season two. I think Charlie Hunnan could do Lucifer. But would they have been able to afford him these days, Ryan Gosling is another who for me could have pulled it off.

finished all 10 episodes. i liked this series and looking forward to season 2 which my guess is late next year or early 2024

I have two episodes to go, it's all rather just okay to meh at times. One of my main complaints is the actor who plays Dream, I find the acting cringe at times with the endless forlorn looks and exaggerated mouth movements. Maybe that's how the character is supposed to be, as I've not read the comic.

Episode with the immortal guy is my favorite so far. The diner is second.

Originally posted by Robtard
I have two episodes to go, it's all rather just okay to meh at times. One of my main complaints is the actor who plays Dream, I find the acting cringe at times with the endless forlorn looks and exaggerated mouth movements. Maybe that's how the character is supposed to be, as I've not read the comic.

Episode with the immortal guy is my favorite so far. The diner is second. Yeah, the actor who plays dream is not my Morpheus!

Stephen Fry did rather well as Fiddler's Green, too.

Originally posted by Impediment
Stephen Fry did rather well as Fiddler's Green, too. Yes, he did!

Just found out that they've added an 11th episode to season 1.

Will look.

Netflix dropped an unannounced episode that contains Dream of a Thousand Cats and Calliope!

What a lovely surprise!

Originally posted by Impediment
Netflix dropped an unannounced episode that contains Dream of a Thousand Cats and Calliope!

What a lovely surprise! it was superb second only to the Hobb Gadling shenanigans.

James McAvoy and David Tennant were voice artists here and Rory from Doctor who has grown up and acted well.

Originally posted by Impediment
Netflix dropped an unannounced episode that contains Dream of a Thousand Cats and Calliope!

What a lovely surprise! it also shows sticking strongly to the source material works best as both of these were superb. Recast Lucifer, for me that's the biggest potential future weakness.

gonna watch the bonus episode tomorrow or monday

it was dope!! loved it!! hope i aint spoiled it for anyone but i tought fiddler green was The Presence for a second there lol

It's been renewed for a 2nd season.

Originally posted by Kazenji
It's been renewed for a 2nd season. Excellent. I hope they listen to fan feedback.

Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!
Excellent. I hope they listen to fan feedback.

I hope they don't.


Fans are dumb, Star Wars sequels went downhill the moment they listened to the fans.