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Soule hasn't disappointed me yet, so I'll definitely check this out.


**The first issue is currently set for release on December 18th, 2019... Right before Ep.IX.

I think it'll probably just flesh out Kylo's rise to master of the Knights of Ren(before TFA), and perhaps his rise as Supreme Leader of the FO(between TLJ and RoS)... Hopefully it will give us a bit of backstory on the other Knights as well.

If we see anything about Kylo's time as a Jedi, it will likely just be in brief flashback sequences or w/e.

Hasn't been revealed yet. Hopefully this series(or RoS) will address their origins.

The Knights of Ren have to appear in episode IX, right?

They'll for sure be in it.

No clue how much of a role they'll actually play, though.

Will be reading

Originally posted by Galan007
They'll for sure be in it.

No clue how much of a role they'll actually play, though.

Seems like Kylo lays the smackdown on em if the trailer is anything to go by.

Also I don't think they'll be Force Users. Or at best, they'll be latent Force Users, just based on their attire and weapons.

Speaking of even for SW, those weapons are stupid. Like one of them is a giant looking paddle thing? Another looks like a cog lolipop?

The blasters I guess look ok and I guess the staff(?) and pointy weapon.

Yeah, it's weird. Everything I've seen so far makes it seem like the Knights of Ren(and their weaponry) were just sort of cobbled together -- they look pretty ragtag. Here's another recent example:
https://i.imgur.com/sRpJQIP.jpg

I guess I just expected them to be a little more... I dunno.... elite looking? It's a small gripe, though... I just want them to be badass.

Originally posted by Galan007
Yeah, it's weird. Everything I've seen so far makes it seem like the Knights of Ren(and their weaponry) were just sort of cobbled together -- they look pretty ragtag. Here's another recent example:
https://i.imgur.com/sRpJQIP.jpg

I guess I just expected them to be a little more... I dunno.... elite looking? It's a small gripe, though... I just want them to be badass.

Oh a Scythe...alright.

I'm kinda seeing some problems, for one that weapon is really short. Unless the blade is able to extend out, then the Knight would have to get in dangerously close just to attack.

Which the clothing attire, it doesn't really strike me as protective.

Originally posted by Galan007
Yeah, it's weird. Everything I've seen so far makes it seem like the Knights of Ren(and their weaponry) were just sort of cobbled together -- they look pretty ragtag. Here's another recent example:
https://i.imgur.com/sRpJQIP.jpg

I guess I just expected them to be a little more... I dunno.... elite looking? It's a small gripe, though... I just want them to be badass.

No, I certainly agree. It makes sense for them to have cobbled together equipment when they first started, but once Kylo Ren became a high ranked official within the FO he should have been able to get his groupies some better equipment. It's just another example of the lack of cohesive world building within the sequels. Sure, it looks cool but there should be more thought to it then merely that.

Anyway, I'm actually looking froward to this. It's the first time in a long while since I've looked forward to a SW comic. I've been interested in these guys ever since they first showed up in that TFA trailer and was pissed when they only appeared in a vision.

Soule recently spoke about the comic on a Fan Expo Toronto panel, explaining the timeline and topic it'll cover.

"You know, Ben Solo is tragic," Soule said. "The potential of him from the day he was born, everyone around him saw or thought they saw what he could be. So he was put in all these different paths, and we've kind of seen how that's gone wrong in the films so far. This is a story about Ben Solo, understanding some of the choices he made."

From the betrayal, to the aftermath, to his training from Supreme Leader Snoke, Kylo's journey will be completely informed by his ending. That's because Soule got notes from the Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker team about how things shake out for Ben--for better or worse.

STAR WARS: THE RISE OF KYLO REN #1 (OF 4)
http://i.imgur.com/BJ6bXJZh.jpg

...I'm just going to assume that Soule's series will take absolute precedence in all matters pertaining to Kylo.

According to the cover/solicits for issue #2, Luke and Ben will actually be shown fighting the Knights of Ren in a flashback... Which is something I didn't expect to see:

http://i.imgur.com/TZD81xJh.jpg


*I'm guessing the Knight who's holding the red lightsaber is their previous Master. Ben will ultimately kill him and become the new "Master of the Knights of Ren".

Wait wait wait wait..
So Luke and Ben fought against the Ren?
So not all Jedi died but they hunted down Luke? If so.. why did he hide??? Is he a retard????

Hunted down Ben**

Hmmm. You know something as incredibly important as this would have been nice to see in the films rather than regulate it to some obscure comic...

Originally posted by ares834
Hmmm. You know something as incredibly important as this would have been nice to see in the films rather than regulate it to some obscure comic... Indeed it would have. The fact that information THIS detrimental to the plot needs to be gathered from supplementary material tells you what a horrible failure the films have been.


On that note, I found this bit from the solicit very intriguing as well:
"With the new Jedi school in ruins and fellow students hot on his trail for the murder of their master, Ben Solo flees to the only friend he has left in the galaxy...a man named Snoke."

This implies that the surviving students believed Luke was dead in the wake of Ben's betrayal. So does that mean Luke faked his death, and/or hid himself from the students afterward? Or was he still just KO'd from Ben's attack when they left the planet?

Furthermore, it also implies that the surviving students were hunting Ben down to avenge Luke's "death", and didn't necessarily join his cause and turn to the dark side like many of us originally suspected.

mmm

Originally posted by Galan007
According to the cover/solicits for issue #2, Luke and Ben will actually be shown fighting the Knights of Ren in a flashback... Which is something I didn't expect to see:

http://i.imgur.com/TZD81xJh.jpg


*I'm guessing the Knight who's holding the red lightsaber is their previous Master. Ben will ultimately kill him and become "Master of the Knights of Ren". Wow. If I wasn't interested in this before, I definitely am now.

Actually looks pretty cool

Cover/Solicits for issue #3:

http://i.imgur.com/pkwLG7pl.jpg

Wow finally, something that is interesting....I still feel something bad though..

Yeah, I'm actually looking forward to this mini quite a bit, because it seems like it's going to do quite a bit of character/world-building, and fill in some of the holes left by the films.

It's unfortunate that I have to read comic books to get this info, but here we are... ermm

^That could be cool actually. Some nice action for Kyle. His fight against Rey and Luke were lackluster

Yeah, it's interesting. The overall plot of the first 3 issues seems to be:

-Snoke starts corrupting Ben.
-Ben betrays Luke.
-Luke's other students think he's dead, and rush after Ben to get some revenge(which isn't very Jedi-like, btw.)
-Ben must defeat the previous master of the Knights of Ren(who he and Luke had evidently encountered years prior) before he can properly become "Kylo Ren", lead the KoR, and become Snoke's apprentice.
-The other students find Kylo, and he presumably fights/kills them.


But I also have a feeling that Kylo won't be portrayed as definitively 'evil' in this. It will still show us that there's still good in him, etc.

Hopefully Luke tries to rescue his apprentices, but by the time he finds them they've already been killed or w/e. I'd prefer that to be the final straw that makes him renounce the force and go off the grid(even though that in itself is still retarded), as the alternative would be Luke just up and quitting without even going after his apprentices... Which would be an even bigger "f*ck you" to his character.

Originally posted by Galan007
Hopefully Luke tries to rescue his apprentices, but by the time he finds them they've already been killed or w/e. I'd prefer that to be the final straw that makes him renounce the force and go off the grid(even though that in itself is still retarded), as the alternative would be Luke just up and quitting without even going after his apprentices... Which would be an even bigger "f*ck you" to his character.


It really is Lose Lose.

But yeah letting his apprentices die first would be even worse. But kind of expected from the Luke who sat around for years whining about being a Jedi whilst his best friend and the entire new Republic were getting murdered and slaughtered.

I'm still not really understanding the Rens choice of weaponry honestly.

Originally posted by Galan007
Yeah, I'm actually looking forward to this mini quite a bit, because it seems like it's going to do quite a bit of character/world-building, and fill in some of the holes left by the films.

It's unfortunate that I have to read comic books to get this info, but here we are... ermm

Yep, Comicbooks should be about Kylo getting punked and saved by Hux

A few tidbits from Soule about the series:
https://www.starwars.com/news/marvel-star-wars-the-rise-of-kylo-ren-interview

But the one that stood out was this:

So the KoR are indeed lower-level force users... I think that's the first official confirmation we've gotten.


It is also stated in the interview that there will be 3 Jedi students(that happened to be off-world during Ben's betrayal) who will be going after him in this... And it also mentions that Snoke will be "very different" in this than he was in TFA/TLJ.

So the Knights of Ren are kind of like the FO's version of the Inquisitorious or what?

Originally posted by Sheev
So the Knights of Ren are kind of like the FO's version of the Inquisitorious or what?

A gang as Soule says, really doubt it's anything like the Inquisitorius from the description.

I somewhat expected something like this I suppose, so I guess I'm not that surprised.

Originally posted by Zenwolf
A gang as Soule says, really doubt it's anything like the Inquisitorius from the description.

I somewhat expected something like this I suppose, so I guess I'm not that surprised.

Almost seems like they're basically a ragtag group of bounty hunters who can use the force... Much less formalized than the Inquisitorius by the sounds of it.

Originally posted by Rebel95
I think the Force Awakens visual dictionary already confirmed that the knights were force users, but it's good to hear that hasn't been retconned. It'll be cool to see Kylo fight them in TROS Oh it did? Couldn't remember off hand.

Ah well, at least it's for sure the canon angle that Soule is going with. I'm just curious to see how formidable they are.

Well if they aren't on the level of a Jedi or Sith, I can't imagine they'd be that great with The Force. Perhaps some enhanced physicals and standard precog, but I'm not expecting them to have any great huge TK prowess or anything.

If the leaks for RoS are legit, then they're evidently strong enough that Kylo cannot defeat them without a weapon...

...Which could either be a high showing for the KoR, or a low showing for Kylo.

Preview of issue #1:

https://i.ibb.co/xFtxskx/kylo-1.jpg https://i.ibb.co/HKgRwhj/kylo-2.jpg https://i.ibb.co/dm32JgQ/kylo-3.jpg https://i.ibb.co/MsdXQfk/kylo-4.jpg https://i.ibb.co/W3JyFB6/kylo-5.jpg

Kylo looks god awful. lol Doesn't even look human.

He looks like Michael Jackson, ffs. ermm

Art aside, I'm still really looking forward to this.

Seems like none of them could sense Luke there so I'm wondering if he was already cutting himself off from the force?

Mmm this could be interesting. Still the reason why Ben killed everyone else is kinda retarded.

Also, where are all the other students Kylo supposedly slaughtered?

Originally posted by Sheev
Also, where are all the other students Kylo supposedly slaughtered?
Dead? Lol

No I mean where are all the bodies? Did he kill them all while they slept inside their huts and then set them on fire after? Just seems a bit too clean if he'd just gone on a mass killing spree.

Guess they are under all those rubbles

A preview of Luke squaring off against the KoR:

http://i.imgur.com/Qgwx9dGm.jpg http://i.imgur.com/6Ro8Nn7m.jpg http://i.imgur.com/iEsNau2m.jpg http://i.imgur.com/GEwTyr6m.jpg

Hope Luke gets some decent feats

Originally posted by Total Warrior
Hope Luke gets some decent feats


Its sad we have to hope for that to happen in a comic book.

It's kinda laughable that these KoR, who aren't on a Jedi or Sith level are going to try and fight Luke Skywalker of all people.

I mean, there are 6-7 of them attacking simultaneously. Even if they are just moderately powerful, that's still a lot to defend against(unless lil Ben is about to tool them all with the force in that last panel, lol.)

After all, we know Luke doesn't kill the KoR and they don't kill Luke... So I am curious to see how the battle pans out. mmm




At least the artwork there looks a lot better than it does in the issue #1 pages I posted...

Oh, I would have much rather gotten some legitimate backstory in the films as well, but unfortunately this is the best we're going to get at this point... ermm

Originally posted by Galan007
A preview of Luke squaring off against the KoR:

http://i.imgur.com/Qgwx9dGm.jpg http://i.imgur.com/6Ro8Nn7m.jpg http://i.imgur.com/iEsNau2m.jpg http://i.imgur.com/GEwTyr6m.jpg Is that a younger Lor San Tekka?

I'm curious to see what his relationship was with Luke and the Jedi students as well.


Is this preview also from issue 1?

^ No. Those are previews from issue #2.

Issue #1 (1/3):
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Issue #1 (2/3):
https://i.ibb.co/ncQNhBc/Star-Wars-The-Rise-Of-Kylo-Ren-c001-NA-p009-dig-Marvel-a-Kraa-HQ.jpg https://i.ibb.co/mXKn62p/Star-Wars-The-Rise-Of-Kylo-Ren-c001-NA-p010-dig-Marvel-a-Kraa-HQ.jpg https://i.ibb.co/NWrf3Dq/Star-Wars-The-Rise-Of-Kylo-Ren-c001-NA-p011-dig-Marvel-a-Kraa-HQ.jpg https://i.ibb.co/Xpds2Hd/Star-Wars-The-Rise-Of-Kylo-Ren-c001-NA-p012-dig-Marvel-a-Kraa-HQ.jpg https://i.ibb.co/dffTb43/Star-Wars-The-Rise-Of-Kylo-Ren-c001-NA-p013-dig-Marvel-a-Kraa-HQ.jpg

https://i.ibb.co/cv8HbpZ/Star-Wars-The-Rise-Of-Kylo-Ren-c001-NA-p014-dig-Marvel-a-Kraa-HQ.jpg https://i.ibb.co/NKNPbdV/Star-Wars-The-Rise-Of-Kylo-Ren-c001-NA-p015-dig-Marvel-a-Kraa-HQ.jpg https://i.ibb.co/dBHN8PH/Star-Wars-The-Rise-Of-Kylo-Ren-c001-NA-p016-dig-Marvel-a-Kraa-HQ.jpg https://i.ibb.co/1vRzNqs/Star-Wars-The-Rise-Of-Kylo-Ren-c001-NA-p017-dig-Marvel-a-Kraa-HQ.jpg https://i.ibb.co/qk1Sr4b/Star-Wars-The-Rise-Of-Kylo-Ren-c001-NA-p020-dig-Marvel-a-Kraa-HQ.jpg

Issue #1 (3/3):
https://i.ibb.co/Kh4ZrkZ/Star-Wars-The-Rise-Of-Kylo-Ren-c001-NA-p022-dig-Marvel-a-Kraa-HQ.jpg https://i.ibb.co/QYhQKq4/Star-Wars-The-Rise-Of-Kylo-Ren-c001-NA-p023-dig-Marvel-a-Kraa-HQ.jpg https://i.ibb.co/BnnJ1Xs/Star-Wars-The-Rise-Of-Kylo-Ren-c001-NA-p024-dig-Marvel-a-Kraa-HQ.jpg https://i.ibb.co/yN88x9M/Star-Wars-The-Rise-Of-Kylo-Ren-c001-NA-p025-dig-Marvel-a-Kraa-HQ.jpg https://i.ibb.co/Yp4x6pQ/Star-Wars-The-Rise-Of-Kylo-Ren-c001-NA-p026-dig-Marvel-a-Kraa-HQ.jpg



https://i.ibb.co/TLVPPT3/Star-Wars-The-Rise-Of-Kylo-Ren-c001-NA-p029-dig-Marvel-a-Kraa-HQ.jpg https://i.ibb.co/0fzntGK/Star-Wars-The-Rise-Of-Kylo-Ren-c001-NA-p030-dig-Marvel-a-Kraa-HQ.jpg https://i.ibb.co/Mh4MZp8/Star-Wars-The-Rise-Of-Kylo-Ren-c001-NA-p031-dig-Marvel-a-Kraa-HQ.jpg https://i.ibb.co/ZhQKvCF/Star-Wars-The-Rise-Of-Kylo-Ren-c001-NA-p032-dig-Marvel-a-Kraa-HQ.jpg

A few things...


-I am now very curious who the current leader of the KoR is. I imagine that it will be someone familiar.

-I like how one of the students noted that the force normally "sings with presence." Subtle nod to his power.

-It looks like Ben may have inadvertently summoned literal/atmospherical lightning to destroy the Jedi Temple..? That's quite something if so.

-This is indeed a MUCH different Snoke than we saw in TFA/TLJ... And it's confirmed that it was in fact Luke who f*cked him up so badly.

Pretty sure that's just what they call the dark side.

Some of that dialogue was....ehhh....also why is Snoke dressed like that? I think that's even a worse look for him than his movie look.

Still, I guess a decent start off.

Originally posted by Galan007
https://i.ibb.co/0fzntGK/Star-Wars-The-Rise-Of-Kylo-Ren-c001-NA-p030-dig-Marvel-a-Kraa-HQ.jpg

Snoke, take that ridiculous thing off.

Luke stomped him so hard that he started dressing like the Queen of Naboo.

Originally posted by Galan007

-This is indeed a MUCH different Snoke than we saw in TFA/TLJ... And it's confirmed that it was in fact Luke who f*cked him up so badly.


Ooh I hope theres a flashback to that in The Rise of Skywalker.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
Ooh I hope theres a flashback to that in The Rise of Skywalker. There won't be.

Unfortunately this comic book mini will give us more backstory on Luke, Snoke, Ben/Kylo, and the KoR then we got in all the ST films put together.

Seems like Snoke might have gotten a pretty good feat though, I would assume it was him who destroyed the Jedi Temple with the giant fork of lightning.

That comic is better than the last entry of the series lol

Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
Seems like Snoke might have gotten a pretty good feat though, I would assume it was him who destroyed the Jedi Temple with the giant fork of lightning.

Doubtful. It was probably all of the Sith...

Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
Seems like Snoke might have gotten a pretty good feat though, I would assume it was him who destroyed the Jedi Temple with the giant fork of lightning. I am curious about that... It was some Bendu-level stuff...

Nice little feat for Kylo too, TKing those 3 jedi

Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
Seems like Snoke might have gotten a pretty good feat though, I would assume it was him who destroyed the Jedi Temple with the giant fork of lightning.
I assumed it was the Knights of Ren, since their leader said "let's find something to burn"

Originally posted by Galan007
And it's confirmed that it was in fact Luke who f*cked him up so badly.

Except the Snoke clones in TRoS all have the scars and scars are not genetic, so they were created to look like that on purpose. It was probably just Palpatine trying to get Ben on his side by acting like the victim. Same with Anakin in RotS.

Originally posted by Psychotron
Except the Snoke clones in TRoS all have the scars and scars are not genetic, so they were created to look like that on purpose. It was probably just Palpatine trying to get Ben on his side by acting like the victim. Same with Anakin in RotS. I won't be seeing RoS myself until Sunday, but is it possible that the clones shown in the film were grown AFTER Luke f*cked up Snoke, in order to stay consistent with his current appearance?

Originally posted by Galan007
I won't be seeing RoS myself until Sunday, but is it possible that the clones shown in the film were grown AFTER Luke f*cked up Snoke, in order to stay consistent with his current appearance?

No way to tell BUT a clone wouldn't have scars, so they'd have to scar them manually, which doesn't make a lot of sense to me either because they'd never get the scars to match 100%. Also, we're never given any indication that Snoke was ever replaced with another clone. Going off the information in the movies TLJ is the first time he's ever been killed. Honestly, those vats were there just to beat us over the head in case we were too stupid to figure it out even though Palpatine literally says "I made Snoke".

Originally posted by Galan007
I won't be seeing RoS myself until Sunday, but is it possible that the clones shown in the film were grown AFTER Luke f*cked up Snoke, in order to stay consistent with his current appearance?


Thats what confused me when watching the film. I guess your explanation is as good as any. But is not confirmed one way or the other.

Edit- But I think one thing is clear. The films are allowed to throw canon from novels and comics out of the window. So might as well go back to the old canon levels.

I was never expecting things to be consistent with this shitshow of a trilogy, so I was just throwing around a possibility lol.

Who knows, maybe Soule will give us a bit more info about the Snoke thing in this mini... /shrug

Some info on "Ren"...

https://i.imgur.com/nDqB6OU.png




And here's some additional information on Snoke's portrayal in this...

....What...

Almost makes it sound like Ren is who really seduced Ben over to the dark side, and Snoke just sort of... Helped? Dunno exactly what angle Soule is playing here. /shrug

A charming evil rascal....wtf is this?....Charming and Darth Vader don't go together. This all sounds like some teen drama TV show.

Originally posted by Zenwolf
A charming evil rascal....wtf is this?....Charming and Darth Vader don't go together. This all sounds like some teen drama TV show. Ren isn't intended as a Darth Vader ripoff. That's the point, I think.

Ren is evidently quite unassuming and relatable for a dark sider, and that helps to reel Ben in.

Originally posted by Zenwolf
A charming evil rascal....wtf is this?....Charming and Darth Vader don't go together. This all sounds like some teen drama TV show.

Sounds fine to me. He is obviously using "Darth Vader" as a generic term for dark sider. He even goes on to say that Ren will be a completely different kind of character.

Originally posted by ares834
Sounds fine to me. He is obviously using "Darth Vader" as a generic term for dark sider. He even goes on to say that Ren will be a completely different kind of character.

I would hope so, but then that's fine. I guess the wording just threw me off.

Cover/solicits for issue #4:

http://i.imgur.com/8p4gGHfl.jpg

Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
By independent entity, I obviously mean that a Snoke isn't a hollow shell being completely mind controlled by Palpatine; he has his own thoughts and powers independent from Palpatine, and Snoke just takes orders from him (which is supported by the VD).

Created by Palpatine or not, Snoke was still very much an independent entity, with his own independent abilities.

And it's not even like Snoke and Palpatine shared some sort of weird hive mind either, as the Visual Dictionary states that Snoke was aware of the dyad between Rey and Kylo, while Palpatine obviously didn't learn about it until late in RoS.


As for the Temple-destroying lightning: it's hard to say. Didn't seem like Ben conjured it, so it's possible that Snoke may have done so in order to drive a bigger wedge between him and the Jedi... But only time will tell.

There is no evidence for anyone as of yet. Hell, it may not have even been through the Force. I'm not saying Snoke didn't do it. But right now, there is no reason to believe he is capable of doing so.

As for the voices, when Sidious says that line he is literally using Snoke's voice for a portion of it. It's clear that all the voices Kylo heard were due to Palpatine even Snoke's voice.

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Issue #2 (1/2):
https://i.ibb.co/2NqmPgy/Star-Wars-The-Rise-Of-Kylo-Ren-c002-NA-p001-dig-Marvel-a-Kraa-HQ.jpg https://i.ibb.co/n3Xxm5L/Star-Wars-The-Rise-Of-Kylo-Ren-c002-NA-p002-dig-Marvel-a-Kraa-HQ.jpg https://i.ibb.co/xJkgL6h/Star-Wars-The-Rise-Of-Kylo-Ren-c002-NA-p003-dig-Marvel-a-Kraa-HQ.jpg https://i.ibb.co/82HQNdq/Star-Wars-The-Rise-Of-Kylo-Ren-c002-NA-p004-dig-Marvel-a-Kraa-HQ.jpg https://i.ibb.co/98p2Jch/Star-Wars-The-Rise-Of-Kylo-Ren-c002-NA-p005-dig-Marvel-a-Kraa-HQ.jpg


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Issue #2 (2/2):
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...About f*cking time Luke did something.

Oh they mentioned the high republic era

Originally posted by Total Warrior
Oh they mentioned the high republic era

Soule is one of the writers heading up Project Luminous, so it's a cool easter egg.

Also worth noting that the High Republic-era vault that Luke discovered in this issue was =/> Jocasta Nu's cache... Which means Luke had access to an even more ridiculous wealth of knowledge than had already been established.

To say that he should have been one of the most knowledgeable force-users in the mythos is an understatement...

Originally posted by Total Warrior
Luke stomped quite hard with the force, I guess Kylo's performance in RoS wasn't all that impressive Yeah. Saber or not, it was quite clear that the KoR(and Ren himself) were absolutely nothing to Luke.

I feel like it would be better if we got more to the KoR before this stomp though. I mean it's great seeing Luke do stuff, but honesty I feel like this is just the equivalent of stomping a bunch of 3rd rate thugs.

....Still nice stomp tho.

Originally posted by Total Warrior
Oh they mentioned the high republic era


What a coincidence lol

Originally posted by Total Warrior
Oh they mentioned the high republic era High Republic was mentioned in the Dooku: Jedi Lost book.

Looks like I was correct. Snoke was the one who annihilated the temple with lightning.

Where is that stated? Looks like you are jumping to conclusions again...

Who else could it be? This issue made it clear that the KoR are jobbers.

Grandpa Sheev.

Nice seeing that calling down lighting seems to be a high tier thing in this Canon..

Originally posted by Psychotron
Who else could it be? This issue made it clear that the KoR are jobbers.

Well, more like the issue made it clear that Master Luke is a powerhouse. Not a knock on the KOR at all to get trounced by him.

So "Snoke" isn't even his real name. It's an inherited / adopted name like "Kylo Ren".

Curious...

Originally posted by ares834
Nah. I haven't read the issue, but if that's the case Snoke is lying. Sidious and Snoke are working together to corrupt Kylo. Sidious is ultimately the one speaking to him through telepathy (using multiple voices) as revealed in TROS. Or Sidious was just embellishing his abilities to make Kylo realize that he'd orchestrated everything behind the scenes. One of those "I made and commanded Snoke, therefore anytime he spoke to you, it was really ME speaking to you" sort of things.

Because the implication here is that Snoke has been telepathically communicating with Kylo for years, and has clearly built a close relationship with Kylo based on that.

Originally posted by juggernaut74
High Republic was mentioned in the Dooku: Jedi Lost book. Which was written by Cavan Scott, who is also one of the writers heading up Project Luminous.

So yeah, the dots are connecting.

Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
Looks like I was correct. Snoke was the one who annihilated the temple with lightning. It was either Snoke or Palpatine.

The issues heavily suggest Snoke, though.

Originally posted by Sheev
Or Sidious was just embellishing his abilities to make Kylo realize that he'd orchestrated everything behind the scenes. One of those "I made and commanded Snoke, therefore anytime he spoke to you, it was really ME speaking to you" sort of things.

Because the implication here is that Snoke has been telepathically communicating with Kylo for years, and has clearly built a close relationship with Kylo based on that.

Or that's what Kylo is led to believe. TFA suggests that "Vader" has also communed with Kylo and we now know that voice is actually Sidious. I don't see why Snoke's voice would be anything different. The implication in TROS is clear, it was all Sidious. Now the EU may not follow that implication but I'd like to see concrete evidence otherwise.

Ah the joy the writers must have with trying to make everything coherent.

I'll be curious to see how the Snoke/Palpatine dynamic is fleshed out in the future.

In lieu of Palpatine's line in RoS, where he claims to be 'every' voice Kylo has 'ever' heard in his head, we know that Snoke himself was also capable of reading Kylo's thoughts/emotions, and had very powerful telepathic abilities(even Rey noted that Snoke's TP was immensely beyond Kylo's.)

Aside from that, the Visual Dictionary states that Snoke's primary role was to essentially groom Kylo into the next Sith Emperor -- and in RoS itself, Palpatine tells Kylo: "Snoke trained you well." IOW, it's clear that even though Snoke was a clone that Palpatine engineered, he was still acting fully independent from Palpatine the entire time. Moreover, Snoke also possessed the power to telepathically communicate with Kylo himself... Why would Palpatine trust him to groom/train Kylo for all those years, but not trust him to have random TP convos?

Granted, Palpatine obviously *could* telepathically speak to Kylo under the guise of Snoke and Vader, but does that mean he was literally the only being who ever communicated with him in such a way? I'm not so sure.


Hopefully the novelization(and maybe even this comic series) gives us a bit more insight. /shrug

Originally posted by ares834
Grandpa Sheev.

Sheev is Snoke's puppeteer so it's the same thing.

Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
Well, more like the issue made it clear that Master Luke is a powerhouse. Not a knock on the KOR at all to get trounced by him.


It means Kylo is absolutely nothing next to Luke given his fight against the KOR in TROS.

Remember Luke wasnt being the least bit aggressive here. He chose to kill none of them and let them all walk away.

Originally posted by Galan007
Which was written by Cavan Scott, who is also one of the writers heading up Project Luminous.

I started the book and I'm about 3 hours into so far I'm digging it.

The only distinction I would make is that Luke was explicitly not trying to kill the KoR, while Kylo was.

Originally posted by Galan007
The only distinction I would make is that Luke was explicitly not trying to kill the KoR, while Kylo was. I agree.

^agreed tbh

Luke was also dominating them with the Force, while Kylo was helpless without a lightsaber.

Yeah, it was very obvious that Luke(even when restraining himself as to not kill them) was still SO far above the KoR that they didn't even begin to compare to him on any conceivable level.


In fact, the final page of their 'battle':
https://i.imgur.com/NlbOdrO.jpg


Reminded me of the Yoda/Asajj encounter from TCW:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VcsrxcHZz6s&t=0m45s


The KoR's abilities were literally infantile in comparison to Luke. It was a glimpse of the bonafide 'Jedi Master' that I've been waiting to see appear in Disney canon.

Is Ren intentionally supposed to look like Kylo's twin brother?

Yes. I'm pretty sure Ren is supposed to be one of the key players who fully seduces Kylo over to the dark side. Who better to help do that then someone who reminds Kylo of himself?

Originally posted by Galan007
It was a glimpse of the bonafide 'Jedi Master' that I've been waiting to see appear in Disney canon.

Too bad it's in some crappy comic book instead of a movie.

Oh I would have much rather seen this Luke in the films instead of the emotionally broken, facepalm-inducing version Rian gave us instead... But here we are. ermm


I'll take it, though.

The comic book isnt crappy. Im enjoying it.

Funny thing is I always imagined a sequel film Luke fight like that. Even imagined an indoor dark environment like that. Weird.

But yeah ill take it as a comic. Maybe we will get more in an animated show at some point. Now THAT id be happy with.

These Knights are the epitome of cannon fodder

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Thanks for the scans.

So that's where Kylo got the "I'm pretty but I still want to wear the mask" idea... Yeah, definitely. I'm also curious what meaning the name "Kylo" has to him, because that seems to be what he and Snoke were talking about here:
https://i.imgur.com/6E6Vi3d.jpg

mmm

Originally posted by Darth Thor
The comic book isnt crappy. Im enjoying it.

Funny thing is I always imagined a sequel film Luke fight like that. Even imagined an indoor dark environment like that. Weird.

But yeah ill take it as a comic. Maybe we will get more in an animated show at some point. Now THAT id be happy with.

This series has been good so far. It's the only SW title I've actually looked forward to reading since the last Vader series(which was also written by Soule.)

Say what you will about the guy, but he's done very well with SW material, imo.

Originally posted by carthage
These Knights are the epitome of cannon fodder Getting beaten by Luke and Ben makes them cannon fodder?

I'm surprised that nobody has mentioned this.

Several of Luke's stances and moves in this fight are taken directly from his "fight" against Kylo Ren in The Last Jedi. Just some nice visual call backs to the movie, and showing that even though Luke was sending a projection to Crait, he was every bit as badass in person.

^ I wonder if Lukes projection could have held a Saber and actually got into a Saber battle. That would have been so bad ass.


Originally posted by Eli Vanto
Getting beaten by Luke and Ben makes them cannon fodder?


They do seem to be fodder to anyone with a lightsaber. So basically to any Jedi.

Soule writes Luke by respecting the character and making him bad*ss what an effing change of pace from the movies lol

Originally posted by Darth Thor
^ I wonder if Lukes projection could have held a Saber and actually got into a Saber battle. That would have been so bad ass. I mean, his damn force ghost could, so I don't see why not. /shrug

I wonder..... When Kylo ends up beating Ren to become the KOR's master, will he take Ren's red kyber and use it in his dark side saber, or will he just bleed the kyber crystal in his Jedi saber??

I'm wondering the same thing, actually.

I assume that Kylo will indeed kill Ren to assume supremacy over the KoR, so it's certainly possible that he'll take Ren's saber afterward and use its kyber to power his crossguard saber. However, it's also possible that Ren will kamikaze his saber when Kylo backs him into a corner, like he was prepared to do here:
https://i.imgur.com/xhG0qB0.jpg

So if that happens, it means Kylo will have to 'bleed' the crystal in his Jedi saber. And tbh, I always figured that's what he did anyway, because it would explain why his kyber crystal been stated to be "cracked", "stressed", and "unstable" in multiple guidebooks. Kylo himself has never really been all-in with the dark side; he has always been conflicted... And I assume those emotions would've transferred into his kyber during the bleeding process. /shrug


We'll see, though.

I feel like the whole dead-man switch for Ren's saber is....well it kinda shows his inexperience and I'm not too sure that's gonna bode well. As far as fighting goes anyway.